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Sussex Pilgrim

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Pride before a fall ?
« on: November 30, 2011, 08:43:18 PM »
Well is there?    That is the question that should be being asked of the Chairman at Grimity Trinity.

To quote:

One thing I will do this year is ensure we finish above our neighbours!
In doing so we will make the play offs and either way I will be very proud!
We have been going through a rough patch and if that means i have to bring in more players then so be it.
We can do this and make history, up the blues!
Don't back against us, we can win it this weekend.

Cheque book management at is most transparent....
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Re: Pride before a fall ?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2011, 08:55:45 PM »
I love the one-way rivalry. They can try and build it up all they like but BUFC fans (or at least this one) don't see Trinity as anything other than another team we need to beat to get out of this league.

Their forum is hilarious they really hate us, any self-respecting Boston United fan should be indifferent towards them and I think most are.
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Lee Newell

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Re: Pride before a fall ?
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2011, 08:59:44 PM »
Exactly how rich is Swann?
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Re: Pride before a fall ?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 09:04:22 PM »
It's his wife I believe! Wilko shop owner!
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Re: Pride before a fall ?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2011, 10:49:03 PM »
I just cringe at the prospect of dropping points to a team thats never been promoted or relegated in the 43 years I've been on this rock.

They are the absolute definition of mid table mediocrity and they are the sort of rabble we should be visiting for pre season friendlies, not competing in the same league with. Of the many reasons to hate Evans and his mob the fact they left us at the same levels as teams like Gainsborough and Corby is right up there with near extinction and liquidation.

Rivals?

More like an irritating turd that takes 2 or 3 flushes to get down the U bend. The day I see Gainsborough Trinity as serious rivals will be the day I buy a Sheffield Wednesday shirt and walk through Boston in it.
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Re: Pride before a fall ?
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2011, 07:56:34 AM »
Quote from: Sussex Pilgrim on November 30, 2011, 08:43:18 PM
Well is there?    That is the question that should be being asked of the Chairman at Grimity Trinity.

To quote:

One thing I will do this year is ensure we finish above our neighbours!
In doing so we will make the play offs and either way I will be very proud!
We have been going through a rough patch and if that means i have to bring in more players then so be it.
We can do this and make history, up the blues!
Don't back against us, we can win it this weekend.

Cheque book management at is most transparent....

If anyone needs a translation...

Money Money Money, Won't be funny, When you've won F**k All.
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Ken Fox

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Re: Pride before a fall ?
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2011, 08:23:44 AM »
History does indicate that Gainsborough are Boston United's biggest rivals. I compiled a list of all the club's competitive fixtures on my website and if you look at how often Boston United have played other teams you get the following table showing the top 20.

Not surprisingly it is topped by local rivals Gainsborough Trinity and Grantham Town who have been playing against Boston from the earliest days in the Midland League through to more recent times in the Northern Premier League or Southern League as well as regular encounters in the Lincs Senior Cup and the FA Cup.  Scarborough are another team that were also in the Midland League when Boston United was formed in 1933 and followed Boston into the Northern Premier League and the Conference. Lower down the table there is Denaby United who Boston played regularly throughout their Midland League days but haven’t met for almost 50 years. Both Grimsby Town and Lincoln City Reserves sides also feature. I have tried to distinguish between these reserve teams and the first teams. This is easy for Midland League games where it was always the reserve side but more blurred for Lincs Senior Cup games where sometimes the reserve side was fielded rather than the first team – particularly in more recent years.

                       P   W   D   L   F    A
GAINSBOROUGH TRINITY  135  65  24  46  283  216
GRANTHAM TOWN         100  49  22  29  203  160
SCARBOROUGH            87  30  27  30  137  132
FRICKLEY ATHLETIC      79  43  14  22  169  128
RUNCORN                67  23  20  24   90  107
SCUNTHORPE UNITED      64  24   8  32   77  138
NORTHWICH VICTORIA     63  31   8  24  112   92
ALTRINCHAM             62  20  20  22   87  106
KETTERING TOWN         52  20   9  23   80   92
MACCLESFIELD TOWN      52  23  14  15   64   53
STAFFORD RANGERS       51  22  18  11   70   55
GRIMSBY TOWN RESERVES  50  16   7  27   86  123
PETERBOROUGH UNITED    50  11  12  27   67  109
GOOLE TOWN             49  23  14  12   78   62
BARROW                 48  25  12  11   79   46
LINCOLN CITY RESERVES  48  26   9  13  109   84
DENABY UNITED          46  27   4  15  106   81
WORKSOP TOWN           45  18  15  12   80   60
KING'S LYNN            43  17   9  17   81   68
YEOVIL TOWN            41  20  10  11   82   61
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Re: Pride before a fall ?
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2011, 09:04:47 AM »
And another statistic. Both sides have been in the same league in 40 seasons. Boston have finished in a higher position in 29 of those seasons. However, the last time that Gainsborough finished higher was 1968/9 - the opening year of the Northern Premier League.
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Re: Pride before a fall ?
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2011, 10:41:30 AM »
Imagine having my business here in gainshit, listening to 25 guys explaining how good the team is going to be with the Wilkos money. Ask how many watch the team....................none.
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Re: Pride before a fall ?
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2011, 12:30:19 PM »
Bloody Runcorn and bloody cup/trophy replays in the 80s/90s arrrrggghhhhhhh
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Re: Pride before a fall ?
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2011, 04:00:20 PM »
Quote from: Lee Newell on November 30, 2011, 08:59:44 PM
Exactly how rich is Swann?

Not as funny as the guy who had I 8 Boston on the back of his shirt in the bar before the game, was rather embarrasing !
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Pete Brooksbank

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Re: Pride before a fall ?
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2011, 07:46:07 PM »
Quote from: Ken Fox on December 01, 2011, 08:23:44 AM
History does indicate that Gainsborough are Boston United's biggest rivals. I compiled a list of all the club's competitive fixtures on my website and if you look at how often Boston United have played other teams you get the following table showing the top 20.

Not surprisingly it is topped by local rivals Gainsborough Trinity and Grantham Town who have been playing against Boston from the earliest days in the Midland League through to more recent times in the Northern Premier League or Southern League as well as regular encounters in the Lincs Senior Cup and the FA Cup.  Scarborough are another team that were also in the Midland League when Boston United was formed in 1933 and followed Boston into the Northern Premier League and the Conference. Lower down the table there is Denaby United who Boston played regularly throughout their Midland League days but haven’t met for almost 50 years. Both Grimsby Town and Lincoln City Reserves sides also feature. I have tried to distinguish between these reserve teams and the first teams. This is easy for Midland League games where it was always the reserve side but more blurred for Lincs Senior Cup games where sometimes the reserve side was fielded rather than the first team – particularly in more recent years.

                       P   W   D   L   F    A
GAINSBOROUGH TRINITY  135  65  24  46  283  216
GRANTHAM TOWN         100  49  22  29  203  160
SCARBOROUGH            87  30  27  30  137  132
FRICKLEY ATHLETIC      79  43  14  22  169  128
RUNCORN                67  23  20  24   90  107
SCUNTHORPE UNITED      64  24   8  32   77  138
NORTHWICH VICTORIA     63  31   8  24  112   92
ALTRINCHAM             62  20  20  22   87  106
KETTERING TOWN         52  20   9  23   80   92
MACCLESFIELD TOWN      52  23  14  15   64   53
STAFFORD RANGERS       51  22  18  11   70   55
GRIMSBY TOWN RESERVES  50  16   7  27   86  123
PETERBOROUGH UNITED    50  11  12  27   67  109
GOOLE TOWN             49  23  14  12   78   62
BARROW                 48  25  12  11   79   46
LINCOLN CITY RESERVES  48  26   9  13  109   84
DENABY UNITED          46  27   4  15  106   81
WORKSOP TOWN           45  18  15  12   80   60
KING'S LYNN            43  17   9  17   81   68
YEOVIL TOWN            41  20  10  11   82   61


Look at that win-loss record v. Yeovil........!

We are BIG TIME!

Ken - how many teams have we only ever played once?
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Re: Pride before a fall ?
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2011, 08:30:19 PM »
Quote from: Pete B on December 01, 2011, 07:46:07 PM
Ken - how many teams have we only ever played once?

Here's the list of all 64:

ALVECHURCH              
ASHBY INSTITUTE
ASTON VILLA                  
AVELEY                    
BARNSLEY                      
BEDWORTH UNITED          
BEXLEY UNITED            
BILLINGHAM SYNTHONIA          
BILSTHORPE COLLIERY          
BLAKENALL              
BRISTOL CITY              
BURY TOWN                
CANVEY ISLAND        
CARDIFF CITY              
CHATHAM                    
CHESTERFIELD              
CLITHEROE
CONGLETON TOWN            
COVENTRY SPORTING      
CURZON ASHTON
DARWEN                        
DUNSTABLE                  
ELY CITY
ENDERBY TOWN              
FRODINGHAM                    
FROME TOWN              
FULHAM
GELDING COLLIERY              
GLAPWELL
HALSTEAD TOWN        
HARWICH & PARKESTON  
HERTFORD                    
HEYBRIDGE SWIFTS    
HINCKLEY TOWN          
HORNCHURCH
IPSWICH TOWN                  
KNYPERSLEY VICTORIA    
LEYTON WINGATE            
LOUGHBOROUGH DYNAMO
LUTON TOWN
MALDON TOWN            
MARFLEET                      
MILE OAK ROVERS        
MOOR GREEN                
OLDBURY UNITED            
OLDHAM ATHLETIC              
PORTSMOUTH                  
PURFLEET                  
READING
ROTHERHAM UNITED            
SELBY TOWN                  
SHIFNAL TOWN            
SHIREBROOK MINERS WELFARE  
SOUTHAMPTON                  
ST. ALBANS CITY          
SUDBURY WANDERERS        
TEVERSAL & SILVERHILL CW      
TIVERTON TOWN            
TOOTING & MITCHAM          
TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR            
TRANMERE ROVERS          
V.S. RUGBY              
WEST BROMWICH ALBION          
WOKINGHAM TOWN          

Just edited it to take out FC HALIFAX TOWN and BISHOP'S STORTFORD - who added more games this season!
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Pilgrim86

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Re: Pride before a fall ?
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2011, 08:33:55 PM »
How many of those were friendlies?
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Re: Pride before a fall ?
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2011, 08:38:15 PM »
I saw Ken's list earlier in the season and worked out then I'd then I'd been at ten of the games against teams we'd only played the once. I know this won't be the highest, indeed I don't think I even beat the one person I asked...

And P86, I think Ken's list is competitive games only, as for instance we played Rotherham in the cup in the early 80s and in a pre-season friendly a few years back and yet they're down as a team we've played just the once.
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