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Dipdodah

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Yeovil
« on: August 31, 2024, 07:26:21 PM »
The sending off ruined a good game. The tackle was right in front of me and Cooper was never touched. A good response from the lads, but playing with ten men was always going to be a tough ask.
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2024, 07:33:51 PM »
I live hundreds of miles away and can tell you he definitely was touched! Beauty of an instant replay...

Obviously wasn't there but I'm seeing a lot of "we were the better team" kinda stuff. Well, that's the thing about this league - you might be the better team and still get stuffed because "that little bit of quality" up here costs an absolute bloody fortune... I suspect there'll be a few more Yeovils to come.

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Re: Yeovil
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2024, 08:51:15 PM »
You might be 100 miles away Pete but we were there. Yellow yes, but red very harsh. Cooper conned the ref, rolling over, and was soon up and running their midfield after the decision. Ref was so quick to give red card, and then went to linesman after the event, who was incompetent throughout the game. I thought we played well all game and the ref spoilt a cracking game. We just need to get out of bottom 4 and we will be OK if we carry on like this. Frustrating game again

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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2024, 09:42:56 PM »
Right, so there was contact then? You wouldn't give a yellow for hitting air.

I think the play acting element is ultimately irrelevant - all players do it, including our own. The moment your studs are up and your foot goes over the ball you're asking for trouble. I've shown the video to a few neutrals and they're split 50:50 as to whether it was a yellow or red. But we've all seen them given and it was a poor challenge, whether it was yellow or red.

I see these incidents like this: if it had been a Yeovil player making the same challenge, what would our reaction be? The truth is everyone in the ground would've been screaming for it.
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Re: Yeovil
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2024, 10:40:31 PM »
Unable to show the still of the tackle on this site Pete
 But the still clearly shows, no studs showing, contact with the ball and no contact with the player. I know the referee in this league does not have the luxury of a replay. I also admit from another angle it looks a straight red.If anyone wishes to see the still, head over to Boston United Pilgrims on Facebook.
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Re: Yeovil
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2024, 11:11:26 PM »
A defeat but nothing like the first 3 defeats of the season, we were very much in the game, lots of positives to take from today. On another day the ref would have given Richards a yellow result may have been different. Worked v hard with ten men and deserved more than we got today. Weston and Osbourne impressed, team overall put in a good performance. Richards will be a big miss for 3 matches now.

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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2024, 11:34:58 PM »
But the still clearly shows, no studs showing, contact with the ball and no contact with the player.

Really? Richards went in hard, got very little of the ball if any, and certainly had his foot up and went through the player. On another day it's a yellow, but you cannot blame the ref for giving him a red. What you can blame him for is the inconsistency of his decisions, letting fouls go then pulling them up a minute later. How there were no other cards in the 1st half is a mystery, especially after giving out the red.



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Re: Yeovil
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2024, 11:34:16 AM »
Yeah, I've no doubt the officiating was poor - it often is. I think insinuations that we only lost yesterday was because we were somehow "cheated" is a bit lazy and fails to address the fundamental realities of where we're lacking compared to other sides. If we constantly go through the season blaming defeats on crap refs and cheats we're going to make an already hard job even harder. There's no grand conspiracy against Boston United.

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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2024, 11:44:15 AM »
As soon as I saw Mr Hair was the ref I said we would lose. He never gave us anything when we were at York Street and he gave us nothing yesterday. He was inconsistent from start to finish, pulling us up in nearly every tackle and waving play on when our’s were tackled, fairly or unfairly. Hope we never see him again.

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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2024, 12:10:48 PM »
I tend to think to think Cully summed it up accurately in his post match interview when he said the game became all about one man and not about two teams playing football.
Erratic , inconsistent decisions turned the game into a lottery. Eg Cooper given a free kick every time he flung himself down. Martin Woods elbowed : nothing.
As DN said in his programme notes about the poor reffing in the Tamworth game hopefully  " What comes round goes round" so maybe  we are due a decision or two.


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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2024, 12:13:23 PM »
Yeah, I've no doubt the officiating was poor - it often is. I think insinuations that we only lost yesterday was because we were somehow "cheated" is a bit lazy and fails to address the fundamental realities of where we're lacking compared to other sides. If we constantly go through the season blaming defeats on crap refs and cheats we're going to make an already hard job even harder. There's no grand conspiracy against Boston United.
You know I love a good conspiracy theory Pete :D But you have got to admit, we have been on the end of some very serious decisions lately. Three that stand out and arguably have cost us points. First goal at Southend Mills fouled for first goal, even Essex radio thought so. Equaliser against Tamworth, indirectly from a throw in which never went out, this in the final minute. And yesterday's straight red and bias refereeing thereafter. Don't help when a previous Chairman of this league said I quote, " whilst I've got anything to do with this league Boston will never be in it " Whether it's subconscious or not, seem to be on the receiving end of some howlers.
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Re: Yeovil
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2024, 12:16:13 PM »
As soon as I saw Mr Hair was the ref I said we would lose. He never gave us anything when we were at York Street and he gave us nothing yesterday. He was inconsistent from start to finish, pulling us up in nearly every tackle and waving play on when our’s were tackled, fairly or unfairly. Hope we never see him again.

Per Christian James - games in which he's reffed us, we're P12, W6 D3 L3

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Re: Yeovil
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2024, 02:50:08 PM »
I tend to think to think Cully summed it up accurately in his post match interview when he said the game became all about one man and not about two teams playing football.
Erratic , inconsistent decisions turned the game into a lottery. Eg Cooper given a free kick every time he flung himself down. Martin Woods elbowed : nothing.
As DN said in his programme notes about the poor reffing in the Tamworth game hopefully  " What comes round goes round" so maybe  we are due a decision or two.


Im glad you mentioned the elbow. I was straight in line with it, horrendous challenge. Should have been a straight red.

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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2024, 09:23:39 AM »
As I've posted elsewhere: being close to the Richards incident, what particularly annoyed me was that their player was already yelling before the tackle went in. This seems to be a relatively recent development, and can only imagine it's one that managers condone/encourage. Can you imagine Chopper Harris or Norman Hunter yelling before/after a challenge? I assumed it was going to be just a booking, but the ref was given a decision to make. Inconsistencies are the problem. Not long afterwards Rowe was hacked down on the edge of their area when in a dangerous position and the player wasn't even booked. I thought Woods was the victim of a short-arm (elbow) jab when he was laid out.

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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2024, 10:52:24 PM »
Yeah, I've no doubt the officiating was poor - it often is. I think insinuations that we only lost yesterday was because we were somehow "cheated" is a bit lazy and fails to address the fundamental realities of where we're lacking compared to other sides. If we constantly go through the season blaming defeats on crap refs and cheats we're going to make an already hard job even harder. There's no grand conspiracy against Boston United.
You know I love a good conspiracy theory Pete :D But you have got to admit, we have been on the end of some very serious decisions lately. Three that stand out and arguably have cost us points. First goal at Southend Mills fouled for first goal, even Essex radio thought so. Equaliser against Tamworth, indirectly from a throw in which never went out, this in the final minute. And yesterday's straight red and bias refereeing thereafter. Don't help when a previous Chairman of this league said I quote, " whilst I've got anything to do with this league Boston will never be in it " Whether it's subconscious or not, seem to be on the receiving end of some howlers.

Game of opinions isn't it. I wasn't at the game Saturday but have been at the previous five.

Mills 'foul', I'm not so sure. Obviously we were a long way from it but looked soft at best. If that was Jacob Hazel turning the centre half and going through on goal and a foul got given against him we'd have all been going crackers.

Ball going out, looked out to me. Dylan had bent the ball, clearly bounced on the line when it hit the deck but I think it had gone out of play in the air. Impossible to know either way for sure but it certainly had a bit of whip on it.

Richards. I'm just going off the replays but it doesn't look great. One of those if it was the other way round we'd be screaming for it. All players try some gamesmanship. I see Weston chucked himself to the deck just inside the box and that got rightly waved away. We can't have this belief that all our players are saints and all the oppo players are cheats.