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Re: Season cancelled?
« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2021, 07:19:21 PM »
That’s it season finished

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Re: Season cancelled?
« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2021, 07:22:36 PM »
Null and void.

See you in August folks!

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Re: Season cancelled?
« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2021, 07:57:23 PM »
I really hope we can return to normal in August. So much looking forward to visiting the new ground.

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« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2021, 08:30:57 PM »
Like last season, we finished in 3rd place on points per game basis.  Just hope we can keep the squad for next season.
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« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2021, 09:18:58 PM »
The League Committee, certain clubs, bad weather and Covid19 infections have sadly made this the only workable decision. This season has turned into a farce and has showed very little of the "eliteness" that clubs worked hard to convince the Government of last year. See you all in August. Take care. :police:
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« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2021, 09:57:51 AM »
Disappointing though it is, I'm not surprised. The season was rapidly becoming a farce. Let's hope we can retain the players, and then next season really feel part of something when we can get into the wonderful new ground and be together. It's not been easy to keep a sense of identity being so distanced from everything.

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« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2021, 05:44:41 PM »
Apparently the he majority of the 66 clubs that make up the National League voted to continue the season. 
The voting for Resolution 3 was very close, maybe only one or two votes in it,  and the Resolution to end the season was only passed because they didn't allow one vote for each club.
National League clubs had one vote each, National league North and National league South had 4 votes for each league, allowing the possibility of the vote being skewed away from a true representation of the majority view; which is exactly what has happened.

The National League board need to resign en masse and allow David Newton, and the other signatories to yesterday's open letter, to form an interim board to organise a satisfactory conclusion to the season for those clubs that do wish to play on.  :police:

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« Reply #52 on: February 22, 2021, 11:02:34 AM »
Nah, I'd done with this season. No idea what we're playing at signing that letter. Chester and others are busy building competitive squads for next season - last thing we need to be doing is being dragged into some LetUsPlay nonsense and fall behind the clubs that have no intention of carrying on.

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« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2021, 07:53:57 PM »
 "Step One and Two to be split in deciding the outcome of 2020/21 Playing Season. As a Special Resolution, a voting percentage of 75% or higher was required to pass.

National League: (for) 21- (against) 0

National League North: 16-6

National League South: 9-12

Result: Passed

As a result, Resolution Four is disregarded."



 This is the voting for Special Resolution 1,  so all the clubs voted, not just 4 each from NLN & NLS as was stated earlier.
If the League bothered to ask all the clubs to vote then why not include all the clubs in the percentage figure calculated to decide whether this Resolution passed, or failed?
If you include all the votes and all the clubs then it gives 72% which means Resolution 1 fails, Resolutions 2 & 3 are disregarded, and Resolution 4 kicks in, which shuts down all 3 leagues.

Is there anyone with a maths O level who can explain how they came to the figure of > 75% please  :o



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Re: Season cancelled?
« Reply #54 on: February 22, 2021, 09:36:20 PM »
"Step One and Two to be split in deciding the outcome of 2020/21 Playing Season. As a Special Resolution, a voting percentage of 75% or higher was required to pass.

National League: (for) 21- (against) 0

National League North: 16-6

National League South: 9-12

Result: Passed

As a result, Resolution Four is disregarded."



 This is the voting for Special Resolution 1,  so all the clubs voted, not just 4 each from NLN & NLS as was stated earlier.
If the League bothered to ask all the clubs to vote then why not include all the clubs in the percentage figure calculated to decide whether this Resolution passed, or failed?
If you include all the votes and all the clubs then it gives 72% which means Resolution 1 fails, Resolutions 2 & 3 are disregarded, and Resolution 4 kicks in, which shuts down all 3 leagues.

Is there anyone with a maths O level who can explain how they came to the figure of > 75% please  :o
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"The voting method for that resolution [1] meant that the North and South Leagues only had four votes each, so the 75% threshold was comfortably reached."

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Re: Season cancelled?
« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2021, 09:19:29 AM »
interesting article from the Daily Mail 23/2/2021.

NLN and NLS Clubs are apparently discussing the prospect of setting up  A NEW LEAGUE, with at least 19 clubs in support of breakaway plans.

If it is to happen, it obviously needs to happen fast given the limited timeframe available.

Also IMO, a new replacement league would be totally pointless without the prospect of promotion to the NL.

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« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2021, 10:45:02 AM »
The four votes each for the NLN & NLS were mentioned, but when the results were published the voting came back as:

National League North 16(for) - 6 (against)

National League South 9 - 12

So presumably all 4 votes from NLN were carried over for the resolution, and all 4 votes from the NLS went against it.
Which means around 24% of the 64 clubs voting, cast votes that had no impact on Resolution 1.
Clubs voting for Resolution 1 = 72% if calculated as a % of the 64 club membership, less than the threshold, so all leagues would be declared null and void. Using the 4 vote system, calculated from the 29 votes counted, gives 86% so the split decision was passed, and the National League were home and dry.
So it was set up this way to ensure that the lower leagues would be unlikely to shut down the National League, whose clubs all wanted to continue.
My view is that all the Resolutions should have required a 75% majority.  If you are overturning the National League rulebook concerning completion of fixtures, then it is far from an 'ordinary' resolution, and should require a much higher threshold than 50%. 

All businesses need protection, not just those bigger clubs.
With the furlough scheme due to end in March, and contracted players to be paid, the decent squad we have now could be broken up, with no chance of any income the way things are. 
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