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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2019, 06:26:21 PM »
But we employ a scout to run the rule over these players too.

Are we looking at a systemic failure?

And yet that scout was very successful under Dennis Greene and found us some real gems.

I do think that pretty much everything has gone wrong for us this season. It's been crap.

Who was the gems  Pete ?

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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2019, 08:13:52 PM »
Did Hurst actually manage Ipswich? Not according to two mates who are Ipswich season ticket holders

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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2019, 06:46:53 AM »
It is not very often that a manager who gets his recruitment so badly wrong in his first full season gets it right second time around. The two main reasons being that his confidence & judgement is shot, after messing it up first time around or; he has been sacked.

I have said on here many times that I'm not one for getting rid of managers rashly, without giving them a fair crack at it. I like Craig, he's honest & he wants to bring success to this club.

It also has to be said he has been unable to motivate most of the players he has signed for most of this season. Something has not been right (especially at home). His post match interviews are now resembling Murray's towards the end, as he is just recycling the same old stuff: 'it's not good enough, "most of them downed tools", I can't accept that lack of effort", some of them are not good enough at this level" etc etc. You signed them all Craig!

I won't be able to get to the forum on Wednesday. If I was going I would like to ask Craig why the recruitment was so poor this season, & what he will do differently to bring in the right players for next season?


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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2019, 07:16:08 AM »
If you look back over our history, there are only 3 managers that have been with the club for more than 2 years, maybe we need to allow some stability and let someone develop at this level so we have a sound base to move forwards?

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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2019, 08:25:39 AM »
It is not very often that a manager who gets his recruitment so badly wrong in his first full season gets it right second time around. The two main reasons being that his confidence & judgement is shot, after messing it up first time around or; he has been sacked.

I have said on here many times that I'm not one for getting rid of managers rashly, without giving them a fair crack at it. I like Craig, he's honest & he wants to bring success to this club.

It also has to be said he has been unable to motivate most of the players he has signed for most of this season. Something has not been right (especially at home). His post match interviews are now resembling Murray's towards the end, as he is just recycling the same old stuff: 'it's not good enough, "most of them downed tools", I can't accept that lack of effort", some of them are not good enough at this level" etc etc. You signed them all Craig!

I won't be able to get to the forum on Wednesday. If I was going I would like to ask Craig why the recruitment was so poor this season, & what he will do differently to bring in the right players for next season?

That echo's my thoughts too, I like him, he's honest, his track record is very good and he admits to his mistakes, but.......

There's been far too many made this season, almost 50 players used is a ridiculous amount, it screams of something not be right behind the scenes, be it recruitment, scouting or just a general dressing room malaise.

In my book he's got until October to prove we're back on the right track next season, he'd plenty of credit in the bank from last seasons turn around but thats running out given the  shambles this season has turned into.

However, and this won't sit easy with a lot on here.......are the board not absolved of blame for appointing these men in the first place? We're told they are the very best candidate but history is showing a consistent track record of failure. Never be let it said that DN and NK don't back their managers, they do as S&H & Greene proved, but look at the others, Taylor, Lee, Drury & Murray.......hardly a ringing endorsement for outstanding appointments is it?

This will be the first forum I can't get to since the farcical McFraud charades where the usual acolytes applauded every bile laden lie from his mouth, hopefully people will ask the difficult questions that need asking tomorrow night, but I'm not holding my breath.

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Re: Craig Elliott
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2019, 10:08:48 AM »
But we employ a scout to run the rule over these players too.

Are we looking at a systemic failure?

And yet that scout was very successful under Dennis Greene and found us some real gems.

I do think that pretty much everything has gone wrong for us this season. It's been crap.

Who was the gems  Pete ?

It's not that long ago mate, pretty sure you can work out who were the best players in that team without my help.

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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2019, 11:43:54 AM »
cus there wos no gems  :(

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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2019, 12:55:18 PM »
However, and this won't sit easy with a lot on here.......are the board not absolved of blame for appointing these men in the first place? We're told they are the very best candidate but history is showing a consistent track record of failure. Never be let it said that DN and NK don't back their managers, they do as S&H & Greene proved, but look at the others, Taylor, Lee, Drury & Murray.......hardly a ringing endorsement for outstanding appointments is it?

Name a chairman who has got every single managerial apppointment (or at leats most of them) correct... if only football was that easy.

DN and NK are housebuilders, they do not specialise in running a football club. They have learnt on the job, the hard way.
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Re: Craig Elliott
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2019, 01:07:20 PM »
cus there wos no gems  :(

Southwell, Piergianni?

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Re: Craig Elliott
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2019, 01:19:26 PM »
If you look back over our history, there are only 3 managers that have been with the club for more than 2 years, maybe we need to allow some stability and let someone develop at this level so we have a sound base to move forwards?

Yes, stick with Elliot, he's shown enough. Stability will be good for the club and can see it paying off.

Greene's first season here we missed out on the playoffs, next two we were in the playoffs.

Many Norwich fans wanted to get rid of Farke after his first season last season after a mid table finish, now they're top of the league and heading for the premier league without spending big money (relative to others that that level).


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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2019, 01:19:40 PM »
However, and this won't sit easy with a lot on here.......are the board not absolved of blame for appointing these men in the first place? We're told they are the very best candidate but history is showing a consistent track record of failure. Never be let it said that DN and NK don't back their managers, they do as S&H & Greene proved, but look at the others, Taylor, Lee, Drury & Murray.......hardly a ringing endorsement for outstanding appointments is it?

Name a chairman who has got every single managerial apppointment (or at leats most of them) correct... if only football was that easy.

DN and NK are housebuilders, they do not specialise in running a football club. They have learnt on the job, the hard way.

Totally agree & they saved our club from extinction post FL

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Re: Craig Elliott
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2019, 02:14:27 PM »
me granddad says leave every as it is he thinks craig will tell all players if there not happy then do the rite thing and p off

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Re: Craig Elliott
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2019, 04:02:08 PM »
But we employ a scout to run the rule over these players too.

Are we looking at a systemic failure?

And yet that scout was very successful under Dennis Greene and found us some real gems.


I do think that pretty much everything has gone wrong for us this season. It's been crap.

Who was the gems  Pete ?

It's not that long ago mate, pretty sure you can work out who were the best players in that team without my help.

Off the top of my head these are the outstanding players from the Greene era .
Stryjeck ,  Marr , Ferguson, Agnew . Mills,  Pidge , Garner, Steer ,  Felix , Southwell , Miller .  Maybe I have missed some .   Of those I have named apart from Southwell all were Greene's own recruitments ,  from information on Patter Southwell was recommended by Rob Scott .

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« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2019, 05:04:07 PM »
But we employ a scout to run the rule over these players too.

Are we looking at a systemic failure?

And yet that scout was very successful under Dennis Greene and found us some real gems.


I do think that pretty much everything has gone wrong for us this season. It's been crap.

Who was the gems  Pete ?

It's not that long ago mate, pretty sure you can work out who were the best players in that team without my help.

Off the top of my head these are the outstanding players from the Greene era .
Stryjeck ,  Marr , Ferguson, Agnew . Mills,  Pidge , Garner, Steer ,  Felix , Southwell , Miller .  Maybe I have missed some .   Of those I have named apart from Southwell all were Greene's own recruitments ,  from information on Patter Southwell was recommended by Rob Scott .

Makes you wonder how such talent failed to get promotion doesn't it?

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Re: Craig Elliott
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2019, 06:23:54 PM »
If only Stryjek had 6ft arms to stop THAT goal, eh...
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