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Re: Disgraceful so called fans
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2018, 03:27:30 PM »
I really think the club have failed on so many levels here.

The stewarding is nothing short of disgraceful. They arbitrarily throw home fans out for minor misdemeanors but when a genuinely difficult situation arises they are nowhere to be seen. During the first half altercation on Saturday one steward could be seen trying to deal with that incident. Not only was this totally inadequate but it raises lots of safeguarding issues regarding his safety, why was only one man in that area when clearly there was a problem? What if they had started on him, what would the reaction time have been of his colleagues? Who is the safety officer now? Surely he should have been aware of the situation and sent reinforcements........it stinks of unprofessionalism.

As regards the Wafula incident obviously we dont know what was said but it obviously was of a very unsavoury nature to provoke such a reaction. Once again though there was the minimum of intervention from the stewards and it begs the question who made the decision not to properly steward that area.
After the game it appears there was an incident in the club. Again, who made the decision to allow away fans in after all that had gone on? Why were they not held back for a few minutes until our fans had dispersed and then escorted away from the ground?
Boston Utd have a duty of care to it's fans and it's players and sadly both were seriously lacking yesterday. Forget the result, this is really concerning to me and at a properly run club I'd expect an investigation into yesterday's shambles. Sally I imagine it'll be swept under the carpet and conveniently forgotten about.
Well said Andy very worrying but true word's.
I that you forward this to David Newton.

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2018, 05:06:39 PM »
I really think the club have failed on so many levels here.

The stewarding is nothing short of disgraceful. They arbitrarily throw home fans out for minor misdemeanors but when a genuinely difficult situation arises they are nowhere to be seen. During the first half altercation on Saturday one steward could be seen trying to deal with that incident. Not only was this totally inadequate but it raises lots of safeguarding issues regarding his safety, why was only one man in that area when clearly there was a problem? What if they had started on him, what would the reaction time have been of his colleagues? Who is the safety officer now? Surely he should have been aware of the situation and sent reinforcements........it stinks of unprofessionalism.

As regards the Wafula incident obviously we dont know what was said but it obviously was of a very unsavoury nature to provoke such a reaction. Once again though there was the minimum of intervention from the stewards and it begs the question who made the decision not to properly steward that area.
After the game it appears there was an incident in the club. Again, who made the decision to allow away fans in after all that had gone on? Why were they not held back for a few minutes until our fans had dispersed and then escorted away from the ground?
Boston Utd have a duty of care to it's fans and it's players and sadly both were seriously lacking yesterday. Forget the result, this is really concerning to me and at a properly run club I'd expect an investigation into yesterday's shambles. Sally I imagine it'll be swept under the carpet and conveniently forgotten about.
Well said Andy very worrying but true word's.
I that you forward this to David Newton.
I also agree. As I left the ground I asked who I believe to be a senior steward "why havent you done anything?" Meaning the away support "is that acceptable?".His only reply was "why don't you do it then? What's your name?". I was astounded by this response. He hadn't done his job, and when asked a perfectly reasonable question, considering the circumstances, his defence is to become aggressive towards a home fan. Sorry, this isn't on. I'm a season ticket holder who took his ten year old daughter to watch football. I don't want to be a steward, but I do expect those that we are to do their jobs, so my daughter (and I) don't need to be subjected to racial chanting and vile language for 90 minutes plus.
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Re: Disgraceful so called fans
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2018, 05:45:59 PM »
The club have failed dismally here. I hope the Chairman will make some sort of statement?

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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2018, 06:36:16 PM »
I think the club got caught out by how many they brought and the "quality " of what they brought.
There were a majority who conducted themselves ok BUT about maybe a dozen or so who let themselves, their club and football down.. i say "their club" it has been said they were banned Peterborough united "fans"

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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2018, 07:21:26 PM »


Just seen this photo on twitter. The bloke was stood on the fence for what seemed like an eternity at the end of the game but I didn't realise it had been photographed. The stewards in the away end couldn't get him down. In that situation I didn't really understand why a lot of our other stewards were holding their positions in other areas of the ground which were  free from trouble as opposed to moving across to help their colleagues deal with the trouble makers.

Equally I don't really want three of our first team squad having to step in to prevent a fourth from getting into a fight. No criticism of Jonathon Wafula who wad clearly provoked into losing his rag, but we don't want that kind of publicity nor the risk of our players being injured in fights with spectators. Stewards needed to be stepping forward at that point.
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2018, 08:36:42 PM »


Just seen this photo on twitter. The bloke was stood on the fence for what seemed like an eternity at the end of the game but I didn't realise it had been photographed. The stewards in the away end couldn't get him down. In that situation I didn't really understand why a lot of our other stewards were holding their positions in other areas of the ground which were  free from trouble as opposed to moving across to help their colleagues deal with the trouble makers.

Equally I don't really want three of our first team squad having to step in to prevent a fourth from getting into a fight. No criticism of Jonathon Wafula who wad clearly provoked into losing his rag, but we don't want that kind of publicity nor the risk of our players being injured in fights with spectators. Stewards needed to be stepping forward at that point.

Those two on the front left were townenders a few seasons ago, I stood next to them !

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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2018, 08:57:11 PM »
The problem crew were On The Fence Boy and to his left

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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2018, 09:20:41 PM »
I really think the club have failed on so many levels here.

The stewarding is nothing short of disgraceful. They arbitrarily throw home fans out for minor misdemeanors but when a genuinely difficult situation arises they are nowhere to be seen. During the first half altercation on Saturday one steward could be seen trying to deal with that incident. Not only was this totally inadequate but it raises lots of safeguarding issues regarding his safety, why was only one man in that area when clearly there was a problem? What if they had started on him, what would the reaction time have been of his colleagues? Who is the safety officer now? Surely he should have been aware of the situation and sent reinforcements........it stinks of unprofessionalism.

As regards the Wafula incident obviously we dont know what was said but it obviously was of a very unsavoury nature to provoke such a reaction. Once again though there was the minimum of intervention from the stewards and it begs the question who made the decision not to properly steward that area.
After the game it appears there was an incident in the club. Again, who made the decision to allow away fans in after all that had gone on? Why were they not held back for a few minutes until our fans had dispersed and then escorted away from the ground?
Boston Utd have a duty of care to it's fans and it's players and sadly both were seriously lacking yesterday. Forget the result, this is really concerning to me and at a properly run club I'd expect an investigation into yesterday's shambles. Sally I imagine it'll be swept under the carpet and conveniently forgotten about.
Well said Andy very worrying but true word's.
I that you forward this to David Newton.
I also agree. As I left the ground I asked who I believe to be a senior steward "why havent you done anything?" Meaning the away support "is that acceptable?".His only reply was "why don't you do it then? What's your name?". I was astounded by this response. He hadn't done his job, and when asked a perfectly reasonable question, considering the circumstances, his defence is to become aggressive towards a home fan. Sorry, this isn't on. I'm a season ticket holder who took his ten year old daughter to watch football. I don't want to be a steward, but I do expect those that we are to do their jobs, so my daughter (and I) don't need to be subjected to racial chanting and vile language for 90 minutes plus.

Had that steward spoken to me like in that way I'd have taken a photo of him there and then and sent it to the club. And probably given him a few choice words of my own. Absolutely disgraceful response.

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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2018, 09:26:56 PM »
The problem crew were On The Fence Boy and to his left
Were they the ones who shouting racial abuse.

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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2018, 09:34:54 PM »
I really think the club have failed on so many levels here.

The stewarding is nothing short of disgraceful. They arbitrarily throw home fans out for minor misdemeanors but when a genuinely difficult situation arises they are nowhere to be seen. During the first half altercation on Saturday one steward could be seen trying to deal with that incident. Not only was this totally inadequate but it raises lots of safeguarding issues regarding his safety, why was only one man in that area when clearly there was a problem? What if they had started on him, what would the reaction time have been of his colleagues? Who is the safety officer now? Surely he should have been aware of the situation and sent reinforcements........it stinks of unprofessionalism.

As regards the Wafula incident obviously we dont know what was said but it obviously was of a very unsavoury nature to provoke such a reaction. Once again though there was the minimum of intervention from the stewards and it begs the question who made the decision not to properly steward that area.
After the game it appears there was an incident in the club. Again, who made the decision to allow away fans in after all that had gone on? Why were they not held back for a few minutes until our fans had dispersed and then escorted away from the ground?
Boston Utd have a duty of care to it's fans and it's players and sadly both were seriously lacking yesterday. Forget the result, this is really concerning to me and at a properly run club I'd expect an investigation into yesterday's shambles. Sally I imagine it'll be swept under the carpet and conveniently forgotten about.
Well said Andy very worrying but true word's.
I that you forward this to David Newton.
I also agree. As I left the ground I asked who I believe to be a senior steward "why havent you done anything?" Meaning the away support "is that acceptable?".His only reply was "why don't you do it then? What's your name?". I was astounded by this response. He hadn't done his job, and when asked a perfectly reasonable question, considering the circumstances, his defence is to become aggressive towards a home fan. Sorry, this isn't on. I'm a season ticket holder who took his ten year old daughter to watch football. I don't want to be a steward, but I do expect those that we are to do their jobs, so my daughter (and I) don't need to be subjected to racial chanting and vile language for 90 minutes plus.

Had that steward spoken to me like in that way I'd have taken a photo of him there and then and sent it to the club. And probably given him a few choice words of my own. Absolutely disgraceful response.
I know who he is. I'm willing to give the club a chance to respond publicly to this incident, and the inefficiencies (IMO) of the stewarding. If I need to name him, I will.
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There's no discouragement shall make him once relent
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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2018, 09:06:09 AM »
The police have arrested someone regarding the racist abuse.

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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2018, 01:21:57 PM »
The problem crew were On The Fence Boy and to his left
Were they the ones who shouting racial abuse.
these were the group Wafula seemed most interested in !

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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2018, 08:53:18 PM »


Just seen this photo on twitter. The bloke was stood on the fence for what seemed like an eternity at the end of the game but I didn't realise it had been photographed. The stewards in the away end couldn't get him down. In that situation I didn't really understand why a lot of our other stewards were holding their positions in other areas of the ground which were  free from trouble as opposed to moving across to help their colleagues deal with the trouble makers.

Equally I don't really want three of our first team squad having to step in to prevent a fourth from getting into a fight. No criticism of Jonathon Wafula who wad clearly provoked into losing his rag, but we don't want that kind of publicity nor the risk of our players being injured in fights with spectators. Stewards needed to be stepping forward at that point.

By the look of some of them there is a lot of inbreeding going on!

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« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2018, 02:26:01 PM »
I really think the club have failed on so many levels here.

The stewarding is nothing short of disgraceful. They arbitrarily throw home fans out for minor misdemeanors but when a genuinely difficult situation arises they are nowhere to be seen. During the first half altercation on Saturday one steward could be seen trying to deal with that incident. Not only was this totally inadequate but it raises lots of safeguarding issues regarding his safety, why was only one man in that area when clearly there was a problem? What if they had started on him, what would the reaction time have been of his colleagues? Who is the safety officer now? Surely he should have been aware of the situation and sent reinforcements........it stinks of unprofessionalism.

As regards the Wafula incident obviously we dont know what was said but it obviously was of a very unsavoury nature to provoke such a reaction. Once again though there was the minimum of intervention from the stewards and it begs the question who made the decision not to properly steward that area.
After the game it appears there was an incident in the club. Again, who made the decision to allow away fans in after all that had gone on? Why were they not held back for a few minutes until our fans had dispersed and then escorted away from the ground?
Boston Utd have a duty of care to it's fans and it's players and sadly both were seriously lacking yesterday. Forget the result, this is really concerning to me and at a properly run club I'd expect an investigation into yesterday's shambles. Sally I imagine it'll be swept under the carpet and conveniently forgotten about.
Well said Andy very worrying but true word's.
I that you forward this to David Newton.
I also agree. As I left the ground I asked who I believe to be a senior steward "why havent you done anything?" Meaning the away support "is that acceptable?".His only reply was "why don't you do it then? What's your name?". I was astounded by this response. He hadn't done his job, and when asked a perfectly reasonable question, considering the circumstances, his defence is to become aggressive towards a home fan. Sorry, this isn't on. I'm a season ticket holder who took his ten year old daughter to watch football. I don't want to be a steward, but I do expect those that we are to do their jobs, so my daughter (and I) don't need to be subjected to racial chanting and vile language for 90 minutes plus.

Pretty sure I was stood nearby as this exchange was going on. It corroborated the impression I’ve had for a while (without much particular evidence) that the stewarding at YS has become rather complacent, with an attitude of ‘I’ve been doing this for 15 years, I know best, nobody can question me.’

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« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2018, 05:46:03 PM »
The Peterborough Evening Telegraph is reporting an arrest has been made today.

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