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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2017, 06:57:42 PM »
Any manager who uses 27 different players 2 and a bit months into the season is clueless end of

Mark Hone and Steve Thompson on Radio Lincs said as much this afternoon.

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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2017, 09:12:53 PM »
A freezing cold wet day and we are served up another load of rubbish. We sat in the visiting directors seats as they were warm and snug in hospitality. For the second half they turned up and sat well to the left of us. I suppose I will be regarded as the enemy since I vented my spleen towards them at the end of the game advising them to put it politely that we the fans pay good money to support the club home and away and deserve better. I also suggested there should be a managerial  change as a matter of urgency as the only way at the moment is down. (I sincerely hope my language was parliamentary) as I was a little irate.
The majority of this squad do not have BUFC in them, the move to train 50 miles away has them feeling they are playing away from home every game. Boston United should train reasonably locally and only sign players who are willing to put themselves out to be a part of our club.
On our way we were speculating on who the new striker would be and what do end with up with? a youth player from Peterborough (no disrespect to the young man and he is probably a good young youth player) but come on it's a pee take, how the lads who didn't even make the bench felt goodness only knows, they have been treated abysmally. Speaking of the bench there were more sat there than there were supporters on our coach. This squad does it's best but the fact is there are some who have no footballing skills.
I have supported Adam from the word go but have now lost all faith it is time for decisive action by the Chairman. I will carry on supporting THE CLUB and raising a few bob for it's future with my jam jar collections but it's becoming less than a pleasure.  UTP

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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2017, 09:22:32 PM »
Any manager who uses 27 different players 2 and a bit months into the season is clueless end of
Didn't the previous manager who I'm not going to get into talking about get called 'the tinkerman' by sections of the KHA, one reason why they called for him out ?! They wanted a team to be signed by the season kick off with little change from then on. They got all that, and more. Murray has delivered on their needs. Yet, surprisingly many still back the new guy despite us now being worse off and in a more dire position. Blind loyalty and adherence, although I do admire their staunchness. But a time comes when serious questions need to be asked and more importantly, to save this season.

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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2017, 09:30:20 PM »
Desperately disappointing. Managed to lose a game any remotely decent side would get something from. Two go's out of nothing against the run of play then we rarely look like scoring.. Pissed wet through, freezing cold, howling gale all afternoon, no atmosphere it really was a reminder of what the glue league will be like unless we sort ourselves out.
I genuinely thought things could not get worse than last year but it seems like it will. 40-50 lunatics getting mugged away from home again. That sort of figure was reserved for barrow and Workington away, not a game two and a bit hours away

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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2017, 09:34:37 PM »
A freezing cold wet day and we are served up another load of rubbish. We sat in the visiting directors seats as they were warm and snug in hospitality. For the second half they turned up and sat well to the left of us. I suppose I will be regarded as the enemy since I vented my spleen towards them at the end of the game advising them to put it politely that we the fans pay good money to support the club home and away and deserve better. I also suggested there should be a managerial  change as a matter of urgency as the only way at the moment is down. (I sincerely hope my language was parliamentary) as I was a little irate.
The majority of this squad do not have BUFC in them, the move to train 50 miles away has them feeling they are playing away from home every game. Boston United should train reasonably locally and only sign players who are willing to put themselves out to be a part of our club.
On our way we were speculating on who the new striker would be and what do end with up with? a youth player from Peterborough (no disrespect to the young man and he is probably a good young youth player) but come on it's a pee take, how the lads who didn't even make the bench felt goodness only knows, they have been treated abysmally. Speaking of the bench there were more sat there than there were supporters on our coach. This squad does it's best but the fact is there are some who have no footballing skills.
I have supported Adam from the word go but have now lost all faith it is time for decisive action by the Chairman. I will carry on supporting THE CLUB and raising a few bob for it's future with my jam jar collections but it's becoming less than a pleasure.  UTP

OXO I know you and I have words later on here, but you are absolutely spot on, I don't go to many away games due to work and equestrian commitments.
But you guys who do must be at your whits end and thoroughly fed up now.
You are right to make your feelings known to the board, and don't feel you have apologise for it.
What a sad mess we are in, and most of us can't get our heads round it.
I will always support this club and fans, but I like you have now lost complete faith in Adam and the board for letting this carry on.
I would like to say chin up mate, but I can't whilst my own is scraping on the floor.

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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2017, 09:58:23 PM »
A new manager must be brought in before we get cut adrift in the bottom 3. Best description of season so far Father Ted: "piss poor".


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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2017, 10:02:29 PM »
The results are very worrying and unfortunately I think a change of manager is required - and I speak as someone who has previously erred on the side of giving managers more time. (Personally I think it was a shame to lose a manager that delivered three consecutive top six finishes, and it’s been a case of careful what you wish for, but clearly some had other issues with DG.)

When a manager has been here as long as AM has, we have always been able to tell by this point - basically - whether they are going to be a success or failure. Even if results improve enough to avoid relegation, does anyone really believe Adam Murray will put together a team challenging at the right end of this league? Will his results be at Scott/Hurst/Greene levels, or Drury/Lee/Canoville levels?

I don’t believe this is a very good squad, I don’t see an upturn in results coming, and the football I have seen has been, I’m afraid to say, dreadful. Worse than at any point under DG so I’m surprised more people aren’t calling for change.

Sport science and fine margins is useless if you can’t get a talented squad together on a budget. Fundamentally, a good recruiter is what BUFC needs in a manager more than anything else.

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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2017, 10:11:15 PM »
A rare away day for me and I have to say I really do have the up most respect for those that go away every week if that's the filth that's served up.
As a club we could learn a lot from Curzon, a club who are seriously punching above their weigh and who have a real community spirit. It must be soul destroying seeing all those trams heading off to The Etihad but they get on with things, roll up their sleeves and present an honest side out on the pitch which is a million miles away from our rabble.
I'm too pissed off to say much tonight other than to say I'm certain if we keep Adam Murray much longer we'll end up relegated........hands up, I backed the wrong horse.

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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2017, 10:12:02 PM »
Like chubby I feel for Josh , Oxo , and all the other fans who spend a lot of money and time over the year supporting the team .   Easy for we sat in a warm home at 5 pm on a Saturday to assess where we are ,
on the pitch we are in the worst mess we have ever been since Chestnuts took over . 
AM has got us lumbered with a under skilled and oversize squad of players ,  poorest squad in Chestnuts time,  even poorer than the one left by Drury . 
Don't envy the chairman ,  the majority of this very poor squad may be relatively easy to get rid of , it's Adams mates enjoying most Saturdays in the dugout on big wages that will probably cause the biggest headache ,   possibly on bigger wages than some of the quality players got pre Murray .


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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2017, 11:59:44 PM »
Oxo , I must have walked past you at the end  , if that was you at the top of the stand talking to the directors. You didn't say anything that didn't need saying. I was just pleased I had only traveled 4 miles to see the match.


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« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2017, 08:59:48 AM »
Any manager who uses 27 different players 2 and a bit months into the season is clueless end of
Didn't the previous manager who I'm not going to get into talking about get called 'the tinkerman' by sections of the KHA, one reason why they called for him out ?! They wanted a team to be signed by the season kick off with little change from then on. They got all that, and more. Murray has delivered on their needs. Yet, surprisingly many still back the new guy despite us now being worse off and in a more dire position. Blind loyalty and adherence, although I do admire their staunchness. But a time comes when serious questions need to be asked and more importantly, to save this season.
The one point I would disagree on in a very good post is the claim that the KHA are displaying  "blind loyalty and adherence " and show  "staunchness".     Totally disagree ,  what I think is happening is they are too embarrassed to comment on their condemnation of the previous manager and the spectacular failure of their  master plan they backed the chairman into implementing .  Then again probably they are just tucking into massive portions of humble pie , don't thick embarrassed is in their vocabulary .!

Credit where it is due ,  Andy (NF) several days ago commented on Patter that AM present squad was "head and shoulders above last seasons "    now on this thread his admits he 's backed a loser .  nothing the matter with that .

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« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2017, 09:45:37 AM »
A few snaps from the game in a public Facebook album:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10155810057359282.1073742001.570994281&type=1&l=9e28ebd344

All from one viewpoint I'm afraid as I was huddled at the back of their covered standing stand. Still got a bit damp in the blustery conditions courtesy of Storm Brian - and there was this rather annoying chap with a bugle.

Thought Boston were really poor in the first half - just didn't know how to cope with the conditions. Kept using the new long throw specialist whose long throws got carried away from his targets every time by the wind. Much better second half when Hemmings came on and could have snatched a win on another day with a bit of luck.


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« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2017, 11:40:25 AM »
My wife and i travelled to Curzon Ashton  today,and looking for a good result, But very poor perfomance by the players and AM. How can you play hooffing the ball in the air,  when it was high winds. Curzon played the ball on the floor and got a result. the 1st goal for Ashton, our defender should have cleared the ball, rather  like saying to the forward you can have the ball I dont know what to do with it.
Time for Adam to be replaced,

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« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2017, 11:53:30 AM »
Any manager who uses 27 different players 2 and a bit months into the season is clueless end of
Didn't the previous manager who I'm not going to get into talking about get called 'the tinkerman' by sections of the KHA, one reason why they called for him out ?! They wanted a team to be signed by the season kick off with little change from then on. They got all that, and more. Murray has delivered on their needs. Yet, surprisingly many still back the new guy despite us now being worse off and in a more dire position. Blind loyalty and adherence, although I do admire their staunchness. But a time comes when serious questions need to be asked and more importantly, to save this season.
The one point I would disagree on in a very good post is the claim that the KHA are displaying  "blind loyalty and adherence " and show  "staunchness".     Totally disagree ,  what I think is happening is they are too embarrassed to comment on their condemnation of the previous manager and the spectacular failure of their  master plan they backed the chairman into implementing .  Then again probably they are just tucking into massive portions of humble pie , don't thick embarrassed is in their vocabulary .!

Credit where it is due ,  Andy (NF) several days ago commented on Patter that AM present squad was "head and shoulders above last seasons "    now on this thread his admits he 's backed a loser .  nothing the matter with that .
That was more or less my point too. I just think that this interpretation of 'blind loyalty' of which I spoke about towards Murray and which has been shown up to the present day is now stubbornly played out by a few because they are afraid to say they got things wrong. It takes a brave person to admit it, and respect to Andy for doing so. We've disagreed in the past but I take it all with a pinch of salt. Each and every one of us fans wants to see a team winning, a team entertaining and have a feel good factor around our club. But sadly each and every one of those factors have gone. Since the previous managers rein the fans have been divided, this has continued again despite our initial coming together to back the new man from the off. I would love it if Murray could prove us all wrong, but his time is running out.
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« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2017, 03:36:21 PM »
We're in serious danger of losing a generation of fans we may have picked up from the league days. This sides every bit as bad as the debacles from 2012/3 and in a more competitive league, it's really threatening to send us down to the third tier in non league. Only surprise is that still nearly a thousand regularly turn up but you only need to go away to see how much it's sucked the life out of people. No atmosphere, no excitement and no points. Normally we'd take a fair few of the younger lads but absolutely none of them yesterday could be bothered. Can you blame them with limited funds? Yesterday literally was the 40-50 lunatics who have nothing else to do on a Saturday. Sad.
I don't think I can go so far as to say sack a manager but Adam Murrays position is getting more precarious with every shambolic piece of defending