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Re: Darlington away
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2016, 10:03:09 PM »
and another loss will certainly have DG under pressure.
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Re: Darlington away
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2016, 10:09:57 PM »
Just back after a seven hour round trip, disappointing to say the least, first 30 minutes we were the better side, had 2 or 3 good chances which we didn't take, then their only real opportunity was the pen which they converted,
    Complete capitulation the first fifteen minutes of second half and it was game over, shambles at the back and midfield non existent, fairhurst and Smith huffed and puffed up front but have my doubts whether they are the answer, Rollins put a good shift in and deserved his consolation goal, nice of Liam marrs to come over and shake the hands of us suffering boston fans.
 Onwards to Tamworth and another loss will certainly have DG under pressure.

Sorry for loyal fans having spent lot a time and money travelling , deserve better .
Nice gesture by Liam , no surprise from a popular ex-player , sure  many Bostonians send best wishes to mum and dad too .
Players must shape up and perform Tues to repay fans that have been short changed .
Been pressure on DG since exodus of players in the summer and will continue for a time I think .
Can,t think of anyone else capable of doing a better job .

Has a team ever been relegated after 3 matches ? ::)
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« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2016, 12:11:21 AM »
Just back after a seven hour round trip, disappointing to say the least, first 30 minutes we were the better side, had 2 or 3 good chances which we didn't take, then their only real opportunity was the pen which they converted,
    Complete capitulation the first fifteen minutes of second half and it was game over, shambles at the back and midfield non existent, fairhurst and Smith huffed and puffed up front but have my doubts whether they are the answer, Rollins put a good shift in and deserved his consolation goal, nice of Liam marrs to come over and shake the hands of us suffering boston fans.
 Onwards to Tamworth and another loss will certainly have DG under pressure.

Sorry for loyal fans having spent lot a time and money travelling , deserve better .
Nice gesture by Liam , no surprise from a popular ex-player , sure  many Bostonians send best wishes to mum and dad too .
Players must shape up and perform Tues to repay fans that have been short changed .
Been pressure on DG since exodus of players in the summer and will continue for a time I think .
Can,t think of anyone else capable of doing a better job .

Has a team ever been relegated after 3 matches ? ::)

Swindon relegated before season started in 1990

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« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2016, 01:44:11 AM »
I've never been so frustrated or deflated so early on in a season in my life, it's same old same old, lets be honest since we lost to Gloucester back end of January barring that run from Easter Monday until the SF 1st Leg we've been a team in free-fall we're a week into the season and some how it feels like we're already in October-November

Sorry but the apologists need to wake up and smell the coffee the facts are yes under DG we have challenged at the top end of the table but at the same time in each of his seasons we've come in undercooked at the start of the season with the transfer merry-go-round in full affect by September continuing to wing it throughout signing players seemingly on the bases of having one game decent game against us or a scatter gun loan policy put them in our shirt for a month or so and we find out they're bang average.

We've never had a settled side and the "you score we score" mentality of his has cost us many points. We've always had a weak midfield with square pegs in round holes ala Garns, Chippendale in the middle right now despite advertised initially as a winger/striker N'Goma at CB when he's clearly not a CB at the minute hell we didn't get a solid keeper/LB until after Christmas last season, we'd be a dangerous side if we managed to do the hard work during the summer instead of leaving ourselves with a mountain to climb post Christmas and lets face we're not going to get away with it every season.

That all said there's only so many times we can get whacked 7-2 at home to Oxford, get whacked 3-0 at home by Fylde or Staylbridge or give up the ghost at home to Chorley and Brackley and brushed aside at Fylde x2. Worcester, Lowestoft, Hednesford, Workington, Leek, Darlington away from home etc and that's without mentioning letting a 2-0 lead in a Play-Off Semi-Final twice (Yes Chorley was unlucky with the over kick and all that, but for example why did we sign a player like Jake Hall during the run-in when he could only play for us X amount of times because of TV commitments lets be honest he wasn't that great of a player that we should be accommodating him) without questioning if there's a "it's in the bag" mindset coming from the management team or if they don't do the homework on players mentalit, it's all right having great players when all is going well, you have can have all the ability in the world but if when the going gets tough and you need to show a bit of steal and you're waiting for someone else to get you out of jail instead of grabbing the bull by the horns yourself you're in trouble and as I say we've been found out numerous times under DG

I had my reservations about the side which was formed during the summer and I'm afraid I've seen nothing to change my mind. I hope they can get it together an prove me wrong, but as I say I fear it'll be Christmas before we potentially get our act together and by then It'll be too late this year. Trust me this isn't a witch hunt against Dennis in fact there's been times I've stuck up for him when others wouldn't out of blind loyalty to the club more than anything, but what do I get repaid with? Being blocked on Twitter and I've seen him have several digs at people who like myself want the best for the club as a whole but like me can flaws within the current set up, what do we know though huh? We're just Joe Public who scrimp and save to follow the club home and away and to pay for our ST in hope "this is our year" each and every summer. I just don't think it'd hurt if one summer we did the hard work which a lot of our fans deserve.

I realise this has turned out to be a rather long post and to be honest not many of you will bother reading it all and I've repeated myself a bit but as I say it's more out of frustration more than anything and I won't lie I feel absolutely mugged off after today's showing.
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Re: Darlington away
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2016, 08:43:24 AM »
Just back after a seven hour round trip, disappointing to say the least, first 30 minutes we were the better side, had 2 or 3 good chances which we didn't take, then their only real opportunity was the pen which they converted,
    Complete capitulation the first fifteen minutes of second half and it was game over, shambles at the back and midfield non existent, fairhurst and Smith huffed and puffed up front but have my doubts whether they are the answer, Rollins put a good shift in and deserved his consolation goal, nice of Liam marrs to come over and shake the hands of us suffering boston fans.
 Onwards to Tamworth and another loss will certainly have DG under pressure.

Sorry for loyal fans having spent lot a time and money travelling , deserve better .
Nice gesture by Liam , no surprise from a popular ex-player , sure  many Bostonians send best wishes to mum and dad too .
Players must shape up and perform Tues to repay fans that have been short changed .
Been pressure on DG since exodus of players in the summer and will continue for a time I think .
Can,t think of anyone else capable of doing a better job .

Has a team ever been relegated after 3 matches ? ::)

Swindon relegated before season started in 1990

Will Ilkeston suffer the same fate this season ?

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« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2016, 09:12:36 AM »
A few snaps for those that don't do Facebook. Sorry I missed Boston's only goal of the season so far. I slipped out as the three minutes of added time was announced as I didn't want to miss the bus back to Darlington and typically Boston scored two minutes later!


Zaphod Beeblebrox


Gregg Smith


Strictly No Standing


Callum Chippendale


Joe Maguire


Waide Fairhurst


Gregg Smith


Kalern Thomas


Gregg Smith


Jay Rollins


Christian Dibble


Jason St Juste


Grant Roberts


Penalty back of the net


Long suffering Boston fans


Herve Pepe-Ngoma


Joe Burgess


Cameron Johnson


Lamin Colley


Jay Rollins


Liam Adams


Jay Rollins

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Re: Darlington away
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2016, 02:49:59 PM »
I've never been so frustrated or deflated so early on in a season in my life, it's same old same old, lets be honest since we lost to Gloucester back end of January barring that run from Easter Monday until the SF 1st Leg we've been a team in free-fall we're a week into the season and some how it feels like we're already in October-November

Sorry but the apologists need to wake up and smell the coffee the facts are yes under DG we have challenged at the top end of the table but at the same time in each of his seasons we've come in undercooked at the start of the season with the transfer merry-go-round in full affect by September continuing to wing it throughout signing players seemingly on the bases of having one game decent game against us or a scatter gun loan policy put them in our shirt for a month or so and we find out they're bang average.

We've never had a settled side and the "you score we score" mentality of his has cost us many points. We've always had a weak midfield with square pegs in round holes ala Garns, Chippendale in the middle right now despite advertised initially as a winger/striker N'Goma at CB when he's clearly not a CB at the minute hell we didn't get a solid keeper/LB until after Christmas last season, we'd be a dangerous side if we managed to do the hard work during the summer instead of leaving ourselves with a mountain to climb post Christmas and lets face we're not going to get away with it every season.

That all said there's only so many times we can get whacked 7-2 at home to Oxford, get whacked 3-0 at home by Fylde or Staylbridge or give up the ghost at home to Chorley and Brackley and brushed aside at Fylde x2. Worcester, Lowestoft, Hednesford, Workington, Leek, Darlington away from home etc and that's without mentioning letting a 2-0 lead in a Play-Off Semi-Final twice (Yes Chorley was unlucky with the over kick and all that, but for example why did we sign a player like Jake Hall during the run-in when he could only play for us X amount of times because of TV commitments lets be honest he wasn't that great of a player that we should be accommodating him) without questioning if there's a "it's in the bag" mindset coming from the management team or if they don't do the homework on players mentalit, it's all right having great players when all is going well, you have can have all the ability in the world but if when the going gets tough and you need to show a bit of steal and you're waiting for someone else to get you out of jail instead of grabbing the bull by the horns yourself you're in trouble and as I say we've been found out numerous times under DG

I had my reservations about the side which was formed during the summer and I'm afraid I've seen nothing to change my mind. I hope they can get it together an prove me wrong, but as I say I fear it'll be Christmas before we potentially get our act together and by then It'll be too late this year. Trust me this isn't a witch hunt against Dennis in fact there's been times I've stuck up for him when others wouldn't out of blind loyalty to the club more than anything, but what do I get repaid with? Being blocked on Twitter and I've seen him have several digs at people who like myself want the best for the club as a whole but like me can flaws within the current set up, what do we know though huh? We're just Joe Public who scrimp and save to follow the club home and away and to pay for our ST in hope "this is our year" each and every summer. I just don't think it'd hurt if one summer we did the hard work which a lot of our fans deserve.

I realise this has turned out to be a rather long post and to be honest not many of you will bother reading it all and I've repeated myself a bit but as I say it's more out of frustration more than anything and I won't lie I feel absolutely mugged off after today's showing.


It is a rather long post BUFC  LOYAL .  I have read through it and will give a needed response .
Now I have been a BUFC supporter for 70 years and by the end of the season I hope to get value for my S/T as I did last season .
 I have maybe been referred to on here as a so called "apologist" .   I would like to clarify that I have no contact / friendship / don,t do social events etc  with manager , directors or any employee of the club .
Unlike some posters I have never played pro football or managed a p/t pro club .

My response is based on what I have observed  on the pitch ( I know opinions vary ).
But my main thrust is based on a combination of  logic and simple economics .   I don,t do Monopoly money like CH of Ex  and corrupt or badly run  football clubs .   

I get the gist of the lazy close season bit and lots make the same point .  If you mused round other clubs forums you would see this is the way most clubs are run ,  even lower FL clubs .      The agents (as many p/t players have )  would love you as a manager rushing to pay top wage,s and his commission in early June .      To make early signings you pay top money .   No good getting all the budget spent in June and only 7/8 players on the books !!!!

Now on  loan signings last season from week to week DG was getting knocked for  either too many, or not enough players
available (can,t please them all ).  Even league clubs now rely on the loan system . most loans are to cover short term  injuries .  To Greene,s credit take a look at his longer term loans
       Liam Agnew.
       Max Styjeck
       McAvoy
       Joal Dixon
       Liam Marrs
       Justin Richards .   

Add to these a selection of his permanent signings ,
      Steer
      Miller
      Mills
      Felix
      Southwell
      Pidge
      Rollins
      Spiess
       Marrs
Not bad under any circumstances a batch of signings over 3 seasons .


Now lets get round to  " smelling the coffee "

In January bufc I was chatting to a colleague of mine and he mentioned his son a p/t footballer had a call from a manager of a club two leagues higher than what he was playing .   He turned it down because the substantial increase in salary did not "make it worth the move "          Given our geographical position (a poor catchment area ) I would guess this is a response familial to Greene .  Amazed how he managed to bring Rene Steer , Liam Marr and Sunderland loanee,s to Boston for such a sustained period .  Must say something about his management .   I also recall when Scott Garner was signed fans of former clubs Lincoln , Grimsby and Cambridge U were united in casting Scott as a bad dressing room influence .     Been the opposite in his 3 years at Boston ,  another endorsement for Boston management .

I,m sure Greene knows better than us what player,s are required time these critic "smelled the coffee" and leave him to get on with it .       
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Re: Darlington away
« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2016, 09:16:52 PM »
The performance on Saturday should certainly see an extra edge to this Tuesday night. I'm sure some people will stay away because we're bottom of the league, not scoring gols, etc, but this is where supporters are needed to help the players.

Don't boo at half time if we're losing, don't just moan throughout the game if the odd pass goes astray, don't make sarcastic remarks in an effort to make yourself look funny in your match-going cliques - do encourage our younger players, do respect that our players and coaching staff are human beings and do congratulate the whole club should we pick up at least a point by being positive (although someone will still find a negative if we win 5-0).

This is BUFC, we don't want our players to become afraid of playing at home - it only make things worse.

I think once we get the 1st win out of the way, we'll be fine. We might not have the excitement of the Play Offs this season, but I'm sure we can still give it a good go. We lost 4 in a row last season (in March), and still got there - we ended that run with a win over Tamworth!
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Re: Darlington away
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2016, 11:30:52 PM »
Well said that man.
Your efforts at " humour" do not help....(the "fans"...not you P86 lol)
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« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2016, 11:30:26 AM »
Don't boo at half time if we're losing, don't just moan throughout the game if the odd pass goes astray, don't make sarcastic remarks in an effort to make yourself look funny in your match-going cliques - do encourage our younger players, do respect that our players and coaching staff are human beings and do congratulate the whole club should we pick up at least a point by being positive (although someone will still find a negative if we win 5-0).

This is BUFC, we don't want our players to become afraid of playing at home - it only make things worse.

Spot on, see you all there tomorrow night!  :)

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« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2016, 01:10:27 PM »
Don't boo at half time if we're losing, don't just moan throughout the game if the odd pass goes astray, don't make sarcastic remarks in an effort to make yourself look funny in your match-going cliques - do encourage our younger players, do respect that our players and coaching staff are human beings and do congratulate the whole club should we pick up at least a point by being positive (although someone will still find a negative if we win 5-0).

This is BUFC, we don't want our players to become afraid of playing at home - it only make things worse.

Spot on, see you all there tomorrow night!  :)

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« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2016, 01:16:48 PM »
Pete, I will be staying outside the ground until the 23rd minute - the last time we scored first in a competitive match at home.

I urge all fans to follow suit.

TEP

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« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2016, 02:23:45 PM »
There should be a protest march. I propose all Boston fans make their way from the Sportsbar to the ground, say about 7.35pm tomorrow?
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« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2016, 03:39:00 PM »
Pete, I will be staying outside the ground until the 23rd minute - the last time we scored first in a competitive match at home.

I urge all fans to follow suit.

TEP

.....but you do that every week to get a free parking place and sneak in the big gate without paying?