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kingofnaves

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Re: Non English scum again!
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2012, 04:08:47 PM »
Adam if you look on Facebook there is a photo of the 74 year old gentleman! No wind up I'm afraid but a racialist attack on a 74 year old because he was English!

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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2012, 06:07:44 PM »
Adam if you look on Facebook there is a photo of the 74 year old gentleman! No wind up I'm afraid but a racialist attack on a 74 year old because he was English!

If you had actual footage of the attack, and with sound proving that it was racial, he still would not believe you KON
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2012, 06:15:02 PM »
 Correction : Many of them pay their way Adam

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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2012, 06:34:42 PM »
Adam if you look on Facebook there is a photo of the 74 year old gentleman! No wind up I'm afraid but a racialist attack on a 74 year old because he was English!

If you had actual footage of the attack, and with sound proving that it was racial, he still would not believe you KON

I'm not disputing whether it is true or not, I'm highlighting how stupid it would be to form an opinion on thousands of immigrants based on the above.

Correction : Many of them pay their way Adam

OK, some don't. But unless you're saying that significantly higher proportions of immigrants don' compared to locals, then it's a null issue anyway. If you did say that, I'd argue you're wrong.

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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2012, 07:08:39 PM »
Disgrace. The culprits should be exported immediately.

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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2012, 08:01:05 PM »
"Many of them pay their way Adam "
 I am sure most on here had no problem understanding this simple statement Adam .
 Take another look at it ,  it means exactly what it says.

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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2012, 09:01:31 PM »
Looks like the Standard may have the story this week!

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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2012, 09:01:59 PM »
You're inferring that you want to focus on those who don't, otherwise you wouldn't be making the 'correction'. Moreover, I only put forward that the thing to judge is that if 'they' (the migrant population as a whole) 'pay their way' or not. I never said that each and every single immigrant does.

Sorry to be pedantic, but given the number of strawman arguments used on the last thread on this topic it's clearly necessary - not that I have any intentions of getting in to that debate again. I'll stick to picking holes in daft things people post...

Light hearted note from someone who has  knack of combining comedy with... correctness- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSZdb2buU_c
« Last Edit: January 30, 2012, 09:06:43 PM by Adam Hildred »

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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2012, 09:11:55 PM »
Adam get in the real world please! Just have a look at Facebook page "Boston Protest March" I don't agree with marching but have a look! Seems like some woman has been robbed down Elizabeth Road now! What's next?

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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2012, 09:15:42 PM »
Poor effort to make a simple statement complecated Adam.  I meant exactly what I said , simple as that .
 Think you deserve a rest after all that .  

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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2012, 09:20:18 PM »
Taking a step back, if we look at the origins of mankind we will see that we are by nature tribal animals. Therefore it follows that our natural instinct is to reject the interloper. A sketch from the likely lads has Terry complaining about Germans when he has returned from army service. By the end he has written off foreigners, non-Geordies, people from other streets and the next-door neighbours. We all have this natural tendency buried in us, but we are supposed to be civilised and should be repressing our feelings. We have been given the gift to think for ourselves and to overcome our nature in the cause of civilisation and humanity.

The bottom line is that racism or tribalism is uncivilised. As has been said by many on here and elsewhere, there are good and bad in all societies, so let's leave it there and move on.

Localised problems like overcrowding, competition for jobs, etc., may need to be sorted, but we need to try to be open, honest and fair, or we'll go nowhere.

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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2012, 09:25:14 PM »
Leave it there on move on?

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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2012, 09:33:36 PM »
Adam get in the real world please! Just have a look at Facebook page "Boston Protest March" I don't agree with marching but have a look! Seems like some woman has been robbed down Elizabeth Road now! What's next?

I have. One post will be complaining about foreigners coming to Britain to live off the welfare state, the next will be about them 'stealing our jobs' - and elsewhere both posters will be agreeing with each other - it's fantastic! I think the best approach to that page is to take it with a light sense of humour - I'm trying to block out the idea that that's the way in which a significant number of Bostonians actually think. I love it when people quite seriously  and sincerely refer to the The Daily Mail when making any sort of point.

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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2012, 09:42:10 PM »
By "leave it there and move on", I thought I was suggesting that we leave our prejudices behind, and my final paragraph was to consider dealing with the practical problems rather than forming preconceptions. I am certainly not denying that there are problems.

I hope that explains any misunderstanding.

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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2012, 10:21:40 PM »
I suspect many making comments on the subject do not mix or socialise with  immigrants .   From my experience with immigrants I can say that the majority of them would join in condeming the scum whatever nationality the culprit. 
I think most wish to be judged by their actions and behavior rather than a load of political propagander distorted or otherwise .