Match v Town

[The Big M]

How you can say hall was a fish out of water it not really fair as he was out of position and o agree about jj I'd forgot he was there lol

[woad_pilgrim]

How you can say hall was a fish out of water it not really fair as he was out of position and o agree about jj I'd forgot he was there lol

Sorry didn't make myself clear, I was agreeing with you. A fish out of water because he was playing out of position.

[lonegunman]

I was going to go, now after reading all this i'm pleased it rained all day!
I'll wait until the season starts before i pass comment about anything. You never know, the managers might have some other players up their sleeves, they kept the KH signing close to their chests.


check the grassy knoll and the chips and curry  :bunny

[Pilgrim86]

We're gonna miss Sleath...

[green hats mate]

Would think Stones is only a a small wage ,  Lets hope JJ is only on a very short contract .

Fear for the early season if Sleath is missing a month .

My opinion after seeing them yesterday
 Defence about good enough
 Midfield ,  Sleath and thats about it.
 Forwards , Two first class strikers needed

 Holsgrove ?

[oxo]

Yes it was pretty dire yesterday and yes we do need two or three better quality signings.
We were discussing the situation in general yesterday and agreed that unless we perform well the two or three hundred supporters we have attracted over the last couple of years could quickly fall by the wayside and that would be a disaster.
I think that the fans need to know how the club is progressing off the field, by that I mean what is the position regarding a new ground?. Obviously we will only attract the grants required for a new ground if the club is seen to be operating in the black and this coming season we are told will be the first we have done so since the dark days hence the reason for the cut in the budget. What I am getting at is that if we were told that a site had been secured and plans were moving forward to have firm dates set for the various phases the fans would accept these budget cuts and would also accept a season where the future of the club would be the most important issue. We would all be patient knowing that in a couple of years we will be in a position to drive for promotion.
In the meantime lets all get behind the lads and the club.I am now off to the Pilgrim Lounge for the best value Sunday lunch in Lincolnshire.

[Bostonshire]

Im just going to sit on the fence on this one.

After newton and co had to pile more money in last season again im Just concearned more about how many more times are they going to do it,

After throwing several hundreed thousend in over the past few years it would be verry easy for them to walk away.

Yes i would love to see a team competing with far better players than we have( Thats not a dig at the players we have).

JJ and Stones love em or hate em are here on peanuts, Are they key players no but im sure they do a job as the 20.

[wayne, york pilgrim]

There does seem to be lack of direction on and off the field at the mo (from what we are seeing and being informed about). But we do have new managers and half the team has gone due to funding and last seasons play off failiure. We also have on going court cases with grimsby that has to be funded if we lose them. The compo that comes from pearson may not be enough to cover what the cost may be for pursuing s&h case. But despite all is, surely there are good quality players out there who are good enough to play in our team that can compete at this level on a budget. still 4 weeks to go till the new season which means plenty of time for new signings and improvement. Or new signings and no improvement. Come on lee pull the rabbits out the hat.

[The Big M]

Oh I see what ya mean now woad pilgrim sorry

[Lord Cutler Knobhead]

I think we need to remember that we're dealing with a management team that haven't as yet had to do this kind of stuff.  Getting it 100% spot on in the first summer without any room for trying something and it not working is a big ask.  They've tried to look at the players they know and whittle out the chaf.  Give 'em chance.

[howmanynames2pick]

as someone who bothered to go, I'm a bit suprised by some of the comments.
It was far from  a "classic"  but what were people expecting? Brazil 70?
It was the groups 2nd match together! Man City fans may tell you that their "star" team still isnt gelling 2 years down the road!
It was a "trial", a "practice match" Not the Cup Final!
As has been said some players did better than others, Danny Sleath particularly did well. Parks did well.
When people go on about the squad and it should be this, that or the other maybe it could be if the club were not having to fork out £1384.61 per week in rent (not just the season, but every week!)
I would guess this puts us at a major disadvantage to a lot of clubs even with there much smaller attendances.

[womble]

Lets remember what pre-season matches are for:-
To gauge players fitness and build "match fitness"
To try out formations and see what positions suit which players looking for versatility as a bonus
To identify which positions still need to be filled and hopefully find the right player to fill them at the right price.

As has already been posted Kevin Holsgrove appeared from off the radar so who knows who we are talking to!
And finally Chris Hall tweeted that it was a bad day at the office to which Semps replied " relax it's early days" maybe we should do the same!

Here endeth the lesson according to Womble 

[Burton Pilgrim]

Most people would look at our squad and say we need 2 central midfielders and 1 or 2 decent strikers.  Listen to Canners' interview on the O/S - interesting that he mentions loan players.  That's the best way for a club like us to afford better quality players, but it won't happen until towards the end of pre-season, when clubs decide which players are going out on loan.
If we get a quality MF and striker on loan, it can make the difference between an average season and a good one.  We've got the basis of a decent squad, but need a bit more quality in key areas.

[woad_pilgrim]

When people go on about the squad and it should be this, that or the other maybe it could be if the club were not having to fork out £1384.61 per week in rent (not just the season, but every week!)
I would guess this puts us at a major disadvantage to a lot of clubs even with there much smaller attendances.

How do you work that out? Just done a quick spreadsheet and here's the figures for last season:

Number   Team        Attendance    Price   Income per game   income per season
1        Telford United   1845   11           £20,295.00           £405,900.00
2        Boston United   1401   11           £15,411.00           £308,220.00
3        Nuneaton Town    932           10           £9,320.00           £186,400.00
4        Alfreton Town    760           10           £7,600.00           £152,000.00
5        Worcester City    665           11           £7,315.00           £146,300.00
6        Stalybridge Celtic 483           10           £4,830.00           £96,600.00
7        Eastwood Town    460             9           £4,140.00           £82,800.00
8        Stafford Rangers  456           11           £5,016.00           £100,320.00
9        Hinckley United    455           10           £4,550.00           £91,000.00
10        Blyth Spartans    449           10           £4,490.00           £89,800.00
11        Guiseley            409             9           £3,681.00           £73,620.00
12        Workington            400           12           £4,800.00           £96,000.00
13        Corby Town       398           10           £3,980.00           £79,600.00
14        Gainsborough     378           10           £3,780.00           £75,600.00
15        Gloucester City    359           12           £4,308.00           £86,160.00
16        Hyde United    353           10           £3,530.00           £70,600.00
17        Solihull Moors    317           10           £3,170.00           £63,400.00
18        Droylsden            315           10           £3,150.00           £63,000.00
19        Harrogate Town    295           12           £3,540.00           £70,800.00
20        Redditch United    265             9           £2,385.00           £47,700.00
21        Vauxhall Motors    210             8           £1,680.00           £33,600.00

I've gone for attendance X adult standing price for price per game then X 20 for season. If you - £72,000 off our final income it's £236,220.00 still more than everyone bar Telford. I'd guess our bar takings and sponrship etc. is as good if not better than most other teams. Obviously a fair few have sugar daddies to artificially inflate budget but that was only 4 or 5 teams. So explain how we are worse off?

Oh and it is common knowledge that Church and Pearson where offered significantly better deals to stay, if this money isn't available why not and if it is why are people making budget an excuse for signing JJ?

I'm not a fool, owning a football club is a money pit and I dont want us to run at a deficit and I'm pleased DN is cutting our cloth accordingly. But I'd say going on figures above our budget should still be more than competitive against most clubs in this league.

[Pilgrim86]

£72,000pa rent / 52 weeks = £1384.61 per week