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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out
« on: June 11, 2016, 12:19:46 PM »
very good.

I am very pleased we are all in it TOGETHER.

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out
« on: June 11, 2016, 11:03:23 AM »
Italy is sitting on a 1.3trillion Euro debt apparently,  more than the debt that triggered the credit crisis, Portugal France and Spain are not too healthy either 

Economically, what Cameron and Osborne are trying to persuade us to do is like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic.  We need to take the nearest lifeboat, raise the Union Jack, and start rowing!

The comments by Dyson in the Independent today are very informative regarding trade after a Brexit  8)

!.3 trillion debt, how many years in seconds is that?  The mind boggles :o :o :o

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out
« on: June 10, 2016, 04:25:22 PM »
That is a long time.

If we look at the UK population of 64 million, and say 50% are tax payers I think that 1.4 million works out at 45p each.

maths is great

Sorry I meant 1.4 billion

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out
« on: June 10, 2016, 03:38:57 PM »
let me try and put figures into context.

People band around figures of X million of debt this and X billion of debt that.

Did you know that one million seconds is approx 12 days and one billion seconds is approx 31 YEARS.

So when Britain were made to pay 1.4 billion to the EU in extra payment the other year, converted to seconds that would take us up to the year 2061. Frightening.

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out
« on: June 10, 2016, 01:57:55 PM »
Immigration is one of my concerns, but I have doubts over other issues within the EU.

I worry we pay too much to be a part of this exclusive club.  Germany and the UK are the only net contributors to the EU.

I object to us bailing out countries who have through their own fault got themselves in a mess.

I object to being told what to do by un-elected Eurocrats.

I object to the fact we can not send rapists, murderers and the scum of the earth back to their own country.

I object to the fact that 18% of British laws were overturned or over- ruled by European courts last year alone.

I object to Germany bullying their way.

My father RIP would turn in his grave seeing the influence Germany has now ( he fought at Normandy ).

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out
« on: June 10, 2016, 11:21:55 AM »
"The point is that if we don't take back control of our borders and control the numbers entering our country our services will soon be at breaking point."

As I have already stated, we can't 'take control of our borders' unless we also depart the EEA. Freedom of a movement is requirement of membership of the EEA and there is no way the United Kingdom will be granted an exemption. Everyone on the Leave side seems to have forgotten about it and believe we can shut the door once we've departed the EU. This is absolutely not the case.

So unless Leave want us to also quit the EEA - which would be absolutely catastrophic for our economy - we will have no more control of our borders outside of the EU than we do now.

I am not disputing what you say.

But I believe Norway are a member of the EEA, but not a member of the EU.

They do not have an open border policy.

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out
« on: June 09, 2016, 06:00:32 PM »
Getting very dirty, better than Eastenders.

The leave vote are leading on three polls, you will now see the dirty tricks.

Sarah Wollaston, leaves Brexit  stating that £350 million per week going towards NHS is untrue.

Have I missed something?  I thought Brexit claimed that £350 per week paid to the EU could go towards the NHS, not would.

Also £350 million is not the net figure, which is lower than the figure shown.

Can someone show the true figure Britain pays?

Claims and counter claims, no wonder the don't knows are confused.

Sarah Wollaston is the first of the stool pigeons to break cover  :laugh:
There will probably be a few more before the big day  :dan

I agree, I think she was a sleeper.

If Johnson, Gove, or IDS break cover then we do know we have been conned ;)

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out
« on: June 09, 2016, 05:27:13 PM »
I think it,s well established now that both sides are a pack of liars ,  all we,ve got to do now is decide which mob to vote for .

Which ever way we vote, we will still get shafted.

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out
« on: June 09, 2016, 10:08:50 AM »
I'm not really sure what you are trying to insinuate. I assume you think it is a pro remain ploy to register more young voters who will inevitably vote in?

If so, I think you are wrong. Firstly I think it's a misconception (and frankly patronising) to think that all young voters will blindly vote remain. I have many young friends who I have debated who would like to leave. Secondly, if your goal is only to win, then you can view this as a conspiracy.  However, if your goal is to make sure that anyone who wants to vote can vote, then surely it can only be seen as a positive? This is a huge decision for the country and I personally think that vote should be as democratic as possible. We don't want any vote questioned afterwards by people saying they couldn't vote.

I don't know if any of you have seen this already, but it is a good balanced piece on the EU by Martin Lewis (money saving expert)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/money/money-saving-expert-martin-lewis-8121255

Fact:  The leave vote is by a big margin made up of middle aged mainly male voters.  The Labour party has been worried about this and last week took action to convert these to vote remain.  So on my working out, if you take these away it leaves the younger voter more likely to vote remain.  So the extension of the deadline was to accommodate the younger voter who had left it to the last minute to register.  Most of these are registering after coming of age.  Only repeating what was on TV news. So it makes sense that the extension helps the remain camp on the above information.

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out
« on: June 09, 2016, 09:55:00 AM »
Getting very dirty, better than Eastenders.

The leave vote are leading on three polls, you will now see the dirty tricks.

Sarah Wollaston, leaves Brexit  stating that £350 million per week going towards NHS is untrue.

Have I missed something?  I thought Brexit claimed that £350 per week paid to the EU could go towards the NHS, not would.

Also £350 million is not the net figure, which is lower than the figure shown.

Can someone show the true figure Britain pays?

Claims and counter claims, no wonder the don't knows are confused.

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out
« on: June 08, 2016, 07:19:34 PM »
I am going to throw in a conspiracy theory ;)

With the registration website overloading last night, and the deadline to register now tomorrow, who would this hiccup help most?

Leave or remain?  Considering the majority of people struggling to register are younger voters ???

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The B-Ark / The new manager of North Ferriby is???????
« on: June 07, 2016, 09:45:43 AM »
Our old mate from Gainsborough Steve Housham

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out
« on: June 07, 2016, 08:25:28 AM »
Last day to register to vote.

Whether you vote remain or leave, VOTE.

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out
« on: June 06, 2016, 01:39:50 PM »
The truth is we are little more than an onlooker anyway. 

We have not embraced fully the concept of an united Europe.

We are about the only country in the EU where we have to show a passport( I am in agreement with this )

We are not a part of the Euro ( I am in agreement with this )

We are on the outside looking in on an exclusive club.

On most votes we only have the power of veto.

A bit like the Eurovision song contest :D

Let's get out and be done with it, and be in control of our own future.  Even if it is with Dodgey Dave or  Corbyn the red.

The problem is, we can't be "out and done with it" because lots of our trade is inextricably linked with the EU in both directions. Like it or not, we will still have to trade within the common market and we will still be subjected to EU regulations. To go a little further, I can't image the EU will want to show us to be doing better for leaving so they will no doubt drive a hard bargain if we wish to continue trading with them to disuade any other nations doing the same thing. They will do this because the very existence of the EU depends on it. As it stands, as you pointed out, we have a veto. We won't have that if we leave.

Lady Gaga, I applaud you as I do all other NHS workers who are doing an incredible job in extremely challenging circumstances. I think the cat is out of the bag now that the market deregulation begun in the late 70's has been vastly damaging and caused massive inequality. With regards the US, a friend of mine suffered a punctured lung when a local nut stabbed him. He was in hospital for 4 days during a visit over there and was slapped with a bill of £$23,000 which his insurance company refused to pay out on. At one point they took his passport and said he wouldn't get it back unless he paid up!

Thatcher, was heralded as one of Britain's greatest Prime Ministers.

When you look back at the things that went on under her tenure ( Savile, Hillsborough, Cosgrove, Belgrano, mass privatisation, the Poll tax, mortgage rates 15%, the selling off to her cronies of Bt, British Gas, British rail and the Cyril Smith cover up ) yet people still yearn for her policies. >:(

I think it was Claire Raynor's last words " Do not let them mess up my beloved NHS "

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out
« on: June 06, 2016, 12:51:31 PM »
The truth is we are little more than an onlooker anyway. 

We have not embraced fully the concept of an united Europe.

We are about the only country in the EU where we have to show a passport( I am in agreement with this )

We are not a part of the Euro ( I am in agreement with this )

We are on the outside looking in on an exclusive club.

On most votes we only have the power of veto.

A bit like the Eurovision song contest :D

Let's get out and be done with it, and be in control of our own future.  Even if it is with Dodgey Dave or  Corbyn the red.

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