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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out

« on: June 27, 2016, 01:09:54 PM »

I well remember 50 years ago when I was working for the Ministry of Defence and had a very little part in the development of the multi role combat aircraft, later known as the Tornado. That was a combined British, German and Italian project with co-operation which worked before we had any formal link with Europe. There was also the Jaguar and the civil Concorde in co-operation with the French. We had trade deals with the commonwealth and it was a good time to be British. Mary Quant, Twiggy and The Beatles to name but a few were promoting Britain in the United States and apart from the destruction of the grammar school system it was a good time. The problems with such things as the three day week in the early seventies were predominantly the result of political intransigence. During that period, international stability was thanks to NATO, although the Vietnam situation is a major regret. Fortunately, we elected to take no part in that fiasco. We had significant trade in cattle, importing from Argentina and Exporting to the European Continent. Anyone remember Franz Buitelaar? He exported £1 million worth of cattle every day. Finally the seventies were great for me when my wife presented me two wonderful and successful children.

Since that period, we have gradually become more introverted and uncertain of our place in the World. Maybe we will now redefine ourselves and I am optimistic that my future, what little there may be left to me, is brighter than for many years.

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out

« on: June 27, 2016, 01:29:28 AM »

I don't remember voting on what Boris thinks, nor do I believe his opinions to be relevant. I know only what I voted for, and that is to return the sovereignty of my country to the state that I enjoyed in my youth. It was a matter of Great Britain, or little britain as a minor parish in an out of control monolith. Parliament will decide what we agree to as we are once again a unitary power beholden to no other nation. How parliament is constituted will depend on the will of the people, and as such, I see the need for an early general election to sort out the present chaos. Let us make our own laws and stop worrying about the fetters of a single market or any other European pretension. We voted for a single market once and we were duped . We should not fall into that trap again. If we mess up this God-given opportunity, history will be unforgiving.

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out

« on: June 26, 2016, 11:04:52 PM »

We have our nation back. We must fight against all who attempt to overturn democracy. They ask what is our plan? It is to replace the European laws that we wish to continue with, by passing acts to make it so, and to reject those which we do not wish to continue with. Then we get on with governing the nation. I think that will do for now. What we are offered is blood, toil, tears and sweat (apologies to Sir Winston), but we will emerge into the sunlight of the Britain (historically England) that has been our way of life for the best part of a thousand years. We have always opposed the overpowering force of the strongest power in Europe by backing the second strongest. This way, we keep Europe under control, although Louis XIV, Napoleon and Hitler temporarily gave us problems.

I fear that any attempt to overturn a democratic decision, by whatever means, will result in blood letting on a level that has not been seen in our nation certainly since the act of settlement, and probably much longer. We must move forward and educate the younger generation who cannot remember what it means to be in charge of our own country, and do business with the rest of the world (including Europe). If we have decent products and services to sell, the world will buy. Don't let anyone convince you that the vote was a mistake. It was the saving of a nation, and I have the temerity to suggest, the saving of the 21st Century World.

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out

« on: June 24, 2016, 09:01:25 AM »

FREEDOM!!!

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out

« on: June 17, 2016, 02:29:12 PM »

Bless her pure and virtuous soul. Dear Lord and Father of mankind forgive our foolish ways.

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out

« on: June 09, 2016, 01:20:07 PM »

It will probably help the remain campaign, but why are there so many idiots who chose to play Russian Roulette with their right to vote by playing a game of leaving it late?

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out

« on: June 07, 2016, 01:27:04 AM »

It's not about the economy.
It's not about immigration.
It's not about trade.
It's not about the NHS.
It's not about who is or isn't telling the truth.
It's not about the fact that the European Union is in a state of near collapse that will drag us down with the rest if we stay, when it inevitably implodes.

It's about the treasonable act by those who signed away our sovereignty with the Maastricht Treaty. I do not wish and never have wished to give away my rights, enshrined in law, which still stands on the statute books despite the actions of the traitors, making me subservient to a European super state. A vote for that is a classical example of turkeys voting for Christmas.

It's that simple. I want my freedom as a British Citizen. Nothing, NOTHING else matters.

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out

« on: May 11, 2016, 10:42:51 PM »

I'm back, after a cancer operation that went badly wrong and a near death experience. However, I am fit enough to vote out on referendum day. After serious consideration, I stick by every word in my previous post, but I can think of a downside which we must be prepared to face. Some small European importers may not wish to buy our products if the EU impose tariffs against us. In turn, we can retaliate buy imposing tariffs of our own and a short tariff war may occur. Sadly, this may result in the loss of jobs for a small number of our citizens. With a heavy heart for those few, I stand buy my intention to vote out, because I believe that we will quickly regain our sovereign status and become a major exporter on the World stage. My opinion is based on a considerable period of studying facts and seeing the reality of the situation, and ignoring the silly comments made by politicians. For those who still wish to vote to stay, I say you are condemning future generations to subservience to European powers such as Germany and France, unless, as I believe, the EU will collapse in a few years or even months. If this happens, we will be dragged, financially into the same mess as the rest.

Look for the facts behind the rhetoric that is being spouted and don't fall for the garbage about the EU preventing war. Our fathers and grandfathers fought and died in Europe for freedom, not a European Union. It is this very freedom which we are now fighting for when we mark our ballot papers. Out means the sovereignty that they really fought for. Let's get out while we can. The chance may never come again.

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The B-Ark / Re: O/T In or out

« on: March 07, 2016, 01:29:11 AM »

First point. Nobody voted to be in the EU, because there was no EU when the previous referendum was held. It was to a vote to be a member of an economic community, aka the Common Market, which was supposed to make the movement of goods easier with lower tariffs. I'm still waiting for significantly lower taxes that the government of the time promised if we voted in favour.

Subsequently, our leaders signed a treaty giving away our sovereignty without consulting the people. Unquestionably, this was an act of high treason and the perpetrators would at any other time in history, have been brought to trial and executed.

This is the first and probably the only opportunity for the population to reclaim the lawful rights of the British people. Failure to do this will mean that we will be inevitably drawn deeper into a superstate where we have little or no say in our destiny. All the arguments about compromise are irrelevant. No ifs, no buts to quote a certain culpable politician; we must get out of something we don't believe in. The evidence that we are not part of this pernicious European dream is clear. We have refused to join the Euro. We have refused to commit to the Shengen agreement regarding free movement over boundaries. We have just participated in a pointless exercise to pull back some of the commitments to which we had previously agreed. In other words, we don't believe in the superstate dream and we certainly don't want to immerse ourselves in the idea.

We want our country back and there is only one way to achieve it. The way out may be involved and complicated, depending on which politicians are allowed to stick their oar in, but June 23rd will be a historic day for the nation. If we stay in, it will be the last day for us as a nation.

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The B-Ark / Inequality

« on: June 05, 2015, 10:42:01 PM »

At a time when the amounts paid to Premier League clubs has reached unimagined heights, I see that lesser clubs that have the misfortune to go into administration will now be deducted 12 points instead of 10. I am minded of Matthew 13:12 -
        For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him
        shall be taken away even that he hath.

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The B-Ark / Re: Tears in the dressing room

« on: May 02, 2015, 10:30:17 PM »

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breathe a word about your loss...

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The B-Ark / Re: Atlético Club Quiebra Parque Avenida(1988) Ltd

« on: February 04, 2015, 02:34:35 AM »

This could go on. It is in the records of the FA that they are the same club, as are Accrington Stanley (but not the Accrington of the 19th century), Newport County and Maidstone United, but not Darlington, Halifax, Chester, or Gateshead. I think we should agree to differ, but the surviving BPA fans that are of my age and who are known to me, deem it to be one and the same club that they support and always have supported.

I would suggest that a club exists while it lives in the memory of a true supporter. I have a Scottish friend who insists to this day that he is a supporter of Third Lanark.

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The B-Ark / Re: Atlético Club Quiebra Parque Avenida(1988) Ltd

« on: February 03, 2015, 10:20:26 PM »

A further thought - under FA rules, a new club must not use the name of a previous club. Darlington FC was not permitted to use the original name and had to drop FC from the name. BPA has been allowed to use the original name as the FA recognise it as the same club. The 1988 Ltd is not part of the registered club name, only the company name. The club also claims the honours achieved during its league years.

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The B-Ark / Re: Atlético Club Quiebra Parque Avenida(1988) Ltd

« on: February 03, 2015, 10:13:19 PM »

As I said earlier, a club is not a company. A company is only the means by which a club may function. As I understand it Bradford PA did not have a break in continuity, playing in local Sunday league for some of the time. I don't think I would want to tell a Rangers fan that his club is dead and he is supporting a different entity.

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The B-Ark / Re: Atlético Club Quiebra Parque Avenida(1988) Ltd

« on: February 03, 2015, 05:55:36 PM »

It may be a different limited company, required to be allowed to continue playing, but it's still the same club, with a continuance of support from the old league days. As I think we all realised a few years ago after our league spell, and also when we were reduced to playing in the Boston League in the sixties, you may threaten a club's finances, but you don't kill the spirit.