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Title: Funny ok game
Post by: wismo on August 13, 2022, 05:00:14 PM
Another loss, early days but a bit worrying. Peterborough Sports beat Southport away from home 3-0. What does that tell us?
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Post by: Ernie100 on August 13, 2022, 05:02:47 PM
Another loss, early days but a bit worrying. Peterborough Sports beat Southport away from home 3-0. What does that tell us?

Something has got to change pretty quickly, or I can see it being "Goodbye Mr Cox"!!!!
Title: Re: Funny ok game
Post by: wismo on August 13, 2022, 05:06:22 PM
Very poor first half with six changes as well. Reassuringly apparently Paul Cox’s side start off poorly and then do better
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Post by: Batistuta on August 13, 2022, 05:08:49 PM
Scrap the back three.
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Post by: TheThirdTwin on August 13, 2022, 07:00:15 PM
The bottom line is we sit 24th. Whatever any of us had hoped for, I can guarantee nobody saw that coming. The optimism and hope we all feel at the start of a new season has all but gone and it’s barely the middle of August.  And yes, I do realise it’s early days and things can turn around, but nothing has gelled during preseason and we’ve hit the league season with a horrible bump. We can’t seem to create chances and we can’t stop the opposition scoring. Not a good combination, and a midweeker away at the current pace setters to follow.  I wish my glass was fuller, but it isn’t.
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Post by: Oakham Pilgrim on August 13, 2022, 07:24:55 PM
I suppose we could be Manchester United supporters......
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Post by: semion on August 13, 2022, 07:28:45 PM
6 changes today.  Seems like Cox fumbling around hoping to hit on something that works. Surely he has an idea what is best 11 is from pre-season.

Can’t fill anyone with confidence that Cox can put the season back on course.
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Post by: oxo on August 13, 2022, 08:55:50 PM
Nightmare of a day all round having to walk the last 15 minutes to the ground from the city centre as the roads closed due to an accident resulting in getting in just after we went one down. midfield dream team in Leesley and Abbott (should read nightmare) nobody capable of putting their foot on the ball and producing a pass. The only real chance was from a free kick which Shields nodded abysmally wide with the goal at his mercy. It has to be said Gloucester are not a very good team but I bet they would like to play us every week. Sorry but at this moment in time this squad look like relegaton fodder and unless the manager decides to play his best players some of who must be really peed off sat on the bench, and is able to make a couple of marquee signings the future looks grim. Of course I will carry on backing the club but many will soon get fed up. UTP.
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Post by: brummie exile 1960 on August 13, 2022, 09:40:35 PM
Thank God for ASLEF!!! Without them, I would have seen this mess.The post match interview makes it clear Cox thinks the players are soft. So why recruit them? It isn't that long ago when the likes of Ellender and Elding took "first-ball supremacy" to a whole new level. We are in trouble already and I am worried. UTP
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Post by: scottbufc on August 13, 2022, 09:49:13 PM
Garbage. Didn't have a shot on target....unless you include a goal kick from Long going all the way through. Don't think any player came off the pitch thinking they'd had a positive impact on the game.

As above all that optimism has gone and we're wondering where our first points will come from.
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Post by: Dipdodah on August 14, 2022, 08:58:50 AM
All preseason, most of the fans have been commenting on the lack of a spine to the team.  Goalkeeper, creative midfielder and a striker.  PC brought in a keeper, got rid of a creative midfielder and failed to bring in a proven striker.  I can't comment on yesterday's match but listening to fans who went, they said it was hoof ball again.  This is all well and good if you have a 6'4" forward.  I hate to complain after just two games and Cox out is at the moment not an option.  But after six games and these issues have not been addressed, I think PC will be P45.
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Post by: copper89 on August 14, 2022, 09:37:14 AM
Once again we seem to uncertain on the keeper situation. You need to stick with one and give him a run in the team. Christ even De Gea makes the odd mistake. We were crying out for someone like Denton if we are playing direct. No creativity.  What a mess at the minute.
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Post by: Bostonshire on August 14, 2022, 10:36:59 AM
Repeat what i said last season. and whiles the end to last season offered a little comfort that i may have been wronge it looks like im still right.

Cox was a poor appointment. Yes he may have a promotion or 2 under his belt but its worth looking at how.

Eastwood town oct 2006 became manager and gained back to back promotion but then they got told they wouldnt be allowed to play in the conference premier. this was done by a very brutish and direct style of football. Also cox was been allowed to spend well over the budget and a unpaid tax bill led to a winding up petition. The club dropped down a league after cox left so they could try and get themselves back on level ground but playing the whole season on nearly no money see them finish 22nd and relegated to the Northern premier league one. This proved to be the final nail as the council barred them from there ground due to 9 months rent arrears. After 5 postponed home games they resigned from football.

Cox followed this up with a good recored with mansfield town but once again a very well founder mansfield town only difference here was John Radford was a mansfield town fan at heart and was happy to substain the founding to get the club back in the football league.

After that his record is at best average.
3 Months at torquay left due to no pay
22 Months at Barrow 1st season 11th, 2nd season 7th resigned 24th august and joined guiseley 11 days later.
Sacked after 29 games with only 4 wins
Record at kettering town shows with a balanced budget he will only offer mid table at best



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Post by: semion on August 14, 2022, 11:55:37 AM
Seems we have a choice.   Clueless or Coxless.   In fairness he should be given at least till the end of September. 
Title: Re: Funny ok game
Post by: Dipdodah on August 14, 2022, 12:14:49 PM
Seems we have a choice.   Clueless or Coxless.   In fairness he should be given at least till the end of September.
I would give him six games.  We need a settled side for FA cup.. we need some kind of a run for much needed funds.
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Post by: Bostonshire on August 14, 2022, 04:18:26 PM
Seems we have a choice.   Clueless or Coxless.   In fairness he should be given at least till the end of September.
I would give him six games.  We need a settled side for FA cup.. we need some kind of a run for much needed funds.

The FA cup is one area that cox as a habbit of doing well. He took 4 different non league clubs to the 3rd round
Title: Re: Funny ok game
Post by: Prof on August 14, 2022, 04:36:36 PM
Missed both so far due to a foreign holiday postponed from 2020. (not feeling guilty to get a proper holiday!). Listened to both thanks to Endeavour FM and BBC. Speechless. Agree with earlier comments; did not see anything really gel pre-season. But on paper, this should not be a team anywhere near the bottom. I don't feel sorry for us fans; most of us will be there again next season and the one after whether it's National League, NLN or even (shhhhh) NPL. We go because we love the club and non-league football. I feel desperately sorry for David Newton and Neil Kempster: so many play off heartbreaks, so many disappointments, so much personal time and wealth, and emotional energy invested....what must they think?
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Post by: Greengrass on August 14, 2022, 08:15:28 PM
Seems we have a choice.   Clueless or Coxless.   In fairness he should be given at least till the end of September.
I would give him six games.  We need a settled side for FA cup.. we need some kind of a run for much needed funds.

I agree with giving him 6 games minimum but the league is decided on points. So how many points after the 6 games?
9 points and 2 clean sheets is a minimum building block for my shattered confidence.
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Post by: Pete Brooksbank on August 15, 2022, 11:32:20 AM
Well, I wanted Elliott to be given all of last season, so it would be wrong of me to treat Cox any differently!

What's worrying me is the recruitment strikes me as being a bit slapdash - we've got a surplus of right-sided defenders, we haven't adequately replaced Byrne, the goalkeeping situation seems as fluid as it always has, and I still don't know why we signed a left-winger to play in a system that uses wing-backs!
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Post by: noughtyforties on August 15, 2022, 12:21:05 PM
Well, I wanted Elliott to be given all of last season, so it would be wrong of me to treat Cox any differently!

What's worrying me is the recruitment strikes me as being a bit slapdash - we've got a surplus of right-sided defenders, we haven't adequately replaced Byrne, the goalkeeping situation seems as fluid as it always has, and I still don't know why we signed a left-winger to play in a system that uses wing-backs!

Plenty never wanted him though, and this poor start is the perfect chance for them to express their dissatisfaction with the appointment.

I think his biggest crime is not being Ian Culverhouse............
Title: Re: Funny ok game
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on August 15, 2022, 12:25:02 PM
Well, I wanted Elliott to be given all of last season, so it would be wrong of me to treat Cox any differently!

What's worrying me is the recruitment strikes me as being a bit slapdash - we've got a surplus of right-sided defenders, we haven't adequately replaced Byrne, the goalkeeping situation seems as fluid as it always has, and I still don't know why we signed a left-winger to play in a system that uses wing-backs!

Plenty never wanted him though, and this poor start is the perfect chance for them to express their dissatisfaction with the appointment.

I think his biggest crime is not being Ian Culverhouse............

You're not wrong there - it was obvious after Elliott was sacked that the fans wanted Cully (a few wanted Curtis Woodhouse but I get the impression David Newton doesn't like managers too active on social media). I believe he did interview for the job, but I don't know that for certain.
Title: Re: Funny ok game
Post by: semion on August 15, 2022, 03:57:17 PM
I understand the reference given to DN on Culverhouse from the Kings Lynn Chairman was less than glowing.
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Post by: Pete Brooksbank on August 15, 2022, 04:15:52 PM
I understand the reference given to DN on Culverhouse from the Kings Lynn Chairman was less than glowing.

That may be so, but then Cleeve is a bit of a basket case himself!

Culverhouse didn't exactly do brilliantly with Lynn in the Conference, his spell with Kettering was pretty average, and I still think King's Lynn would have been caught by either us or York had the season been played out in full.
Title: Re: Funny ok game
Post by: Pilgrim86 on August 15, 2022, 05:53:11 PM
I don't see Lincoln loaning us their 2nd/3rd choice keeper without some guarantee of plenty of gametime, so I think Long will be our number 1. He was injured last week.
Title: Re: Funny ok game
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on August 16, 2022, 08:28:43 AM
I don't see Lincoln loaning us their 2nd/3rd choice keeper without some guarantee of plenty of gametime, so I think Long will be our number 1. He was injured last week.

Gloucester didn't upload highlights but judging from Christian's video he didn't cover himself in glory for their second goal.

Frankly I couldn't give a monkeys what we've told Lincoln - we should be picking players on merit alone and in our own best interests, not guarantees made to aid development of players who do not belong to us. It's fine if you've got a Marcus Dewhurst, but players of his ability are exceptions rather than the norm.
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Post by: scottbufc on August 16, 2022, 10:05:03 AM
I don't see Lincoln loaning us their 2nd/3rd choice keeper without some guarantee of plenty of gametime, so I think Long will be our number 1. He was injured last week.

Gloucester didn't upload highlights but judging from Christian's video he didn't cover himself in glory for their second goal.

Frankly I couldn't give a monkeys what we've told Lincoln - we should be picking players on merit alone and in our own best interests, not guarantees made to aid development of players who do not belong to us. It's fine if you've got a Marcus Dewhurst, but players of his ability are exceptions rather than the norm.

He most definitely didn't. Was down the opposite end to us but wasn't the most powerful of shots, looked like he got two hands on it but it still went through him. Did make a couple of good saves during though including one one on one which looked a certain goal.
Title: Re: Funny ok game
Post by: Pilgrim86 on August 16, 2022, 11:18:43 AM
I think team selection tonight will say a lot. Cox said it was time to take action after 2 poor performances, so it's sink or swim time.
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Post by: Pete Brooksbank on August 16, 2022, 11:47:06 AM
As Scott says over on Twitter, tonight really is a massive game.
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Post by: doc on August 16, 2022, 01:03:34 PM
Banbury are on a fairly meaty unbeaten run 😫
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Post by: dt woodhall on August 16, 2022, 04:42:08 PM
Need to bolster midfield- we always seem short and have two up front with pace.