Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Oakham Pilgrim on January 04, 2022, 04:36:36 PM
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See club website....
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Didn't expect that. Felt he was getting close to being on the brink but thought he had more "credit" in the bank than he obviously did.
It's a terrible shame. Decent bloke. Gutted it's ended like this.
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Yes, I agree it's a shame in that he's always come across as a very decent bloke (and I didn't think he'd go at the moment either). I can't pretend that I haven't been frustrated by our playing style and performances this season (and one of his assistants has irritated me no end since I've been sitting near the dug out!), but whatever the failings he certainly leaves us in a better position than when he came in.
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Culverhouse and Bastock on their way ?
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Seriously Culverhouse and Bastock ??? They together won 2 out of their last 17 together , we need to go forward not backwards
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Didnt they also take KL to back to back Promotions including winning the League we are trying to get out of.
Came to York Street two years back and stuck a 3-0 into us as well, playing a pleasing on the eye brand of Football
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Always sad when someone loses their job but always back the Chestnuts too. I sensed time was not on Craig's side but did not know how much fuse had been burned through. Don't forget Den's Magic is only a stone's throw away at Grantham Town (who admittedly are not doing too well). Drury is also close by and I suspect a different proposition to last time he had a go (admittedly that was dismal at the time). Well...at least on paper there may be some credible applicants to shortlist from.
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None of those for me. Wilkin if we can.
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Wilkin for me to. Proved his quality season after season.
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Drury is doing a good job at Stamford (I see them now and then) but he's had his chance and we need someone who knows our level and how to get out of it (preferably upwards!).
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Drury - you must be joking. No.
Wilkin - really? Why would he leave Brackley when they're top of the league? Also - we train in Doncaster. That's a heck of a commute if he's based down that way.
Culverhouse/Bazza - sure, they got Lynn up when flush with cash but were in the process of chucking away the league when Covid bailed them out, plus were hopeless in the league above once the cash dried up. Is he really that good?
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Jim Gannon. His teams always got better as the season went on. Seems like he can really make players better. 4 kr 5 successive improvements with Stockport before they binned him off
Shame he'll not trail out to Boston though
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I reckon there's only 1 Conference North manager in the top half who we'd both accept and he'd come - Paul Cox, at Kettering. Wilkin would be perfect, but he must be midlands/southern-based. No thanks to Billy Heath.
Does DN go down a level or 2 like with CE? A left-field appointment would be Adam Stevens from Coalville (who's assisted by Danny Davidson...). Got Grantham to within 90 minutes of Conference North football a few seasons ago, and Coalville are 2nd in their division the level below ours right now.
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Mixed feelings, seemed like a decent bloke, but sometimes the tactics looked all wrong. And sometimes they were spot on. Funny old game, mainly luck, difficult enough getting players to come here in the first place, and then the pandemic disrupts a half decent season.
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Surely must be northern
based. Not sure of the circumstances earlier in the season but could I throw Andy Butler - ex Doncaster in the ring???
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Surely must be northern
based. Not sure of the circumstances earlier in the season but could I throw Andy Butler - ex Doncaster in the ring???
He's walked out on us already this season, why wouldn't we go back?
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Something makes me very uncomfortable about this. In the play offs, last 32 of the FA Trophy and big players to return from either injury, suspension or Covid. Craig seems to be a man of integrity (they haven’t all been). Fans can also be turned off by this sort of treatment, as can I assume possible managers worth anything.
Not for the first time in my 50 years of supporting Boston United, I am shaking my head. He deserved longer and better than he received today (and the way over the top anger on Sunday). I don’t feel proud of my club today..
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We don't yet know the circumstances of his departure..........
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We don't yet know the circumstances of his departure..........
Indeed, the short statement wasn't definitive.
"Boston United have regrettably parted company with first team manager Craig Elliott"
Doesn't say he walked, doesn't say he was pushed, doesn't say it was mutual.
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A complete outsider but Cedric Anselin, the former Norwich City player, would be one for the shortlist. Did wonders at Norwich United bringing us close to promotion which was only denied by the 2019-2020 season being voided. He is now working as an occasional football summariser on BBC Radio Norfolk.
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Is Ced fully recovered from his Health issues to take charge of a Football Club?
Another name to throw into the mix. Jimmy Dean
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We don't yet know the circumstances of his departure..........
Indeed, the short statement wasn't definitive.
"Boston United have regrettably parted company with first team manager Craig Elliott"
Doesn't say he walked, doesn't say he was pushed, doesn't say it was mutual.
I think the statement made by Rich the GK coach on Twitter stating, bluntly, he wasn't hanging around to learn his fate suggests that it was indeed just a straightforward sacking.
Cedric Anselin - so the highest level he's managed is the Eastern Counties? You wouldn't sack Elliott to take a punt on that level of inexperience.
As for Andy Butler, quite apart from him already walking out on us once - what exactly are his managerial credentials apart from a stint as caretaker at Rovers? He was a set piece coach at Peterborough and they let him go. Hardly a thrilling CV is it? If Andy Butler is your best option, again, you'd stick it out with Elliott.
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Andy Butler was caretaker manager of Doncaster Rovers for a while, and is still manager of Doncaster Rovers Belles, the womens' side.
Another name to throw into the mix. Jimmy Dean
Big budget manager. Doesn't he live on the south coast somewhere? Wouldn't be ideal.
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You wouldn't sack Elliott to hire the manager of Doncaster Belles, nor for someone who was caretaker for a bit and did.... alright. The whole point is to improve on Elliott, and neither of those jobs screams "I'm ready to lead a club to glory in the National League North"
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We will have to wait and see if David Newton has someone lined up. Brackleys manager would be my first choice. 2nd would be Billy Heath, no one gives him enough credit, horrible team to play against and don’t think it’s all hoofball as both Ferriby and Alfreton had/have skilful players that open up defences not just lump it up to the big man. Both a Denton and Rhead type would walk into our team and imagine Elliott and Wright playing off that type of player.
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Interview with David Newton
https://www.lincolnshireworld.com/sport/football/boston-united-chairman-david-newton-on-the-reasons-behind-craig-elliotts-departure-and-whats-next-for-the-pilgrims-3515510 (https://www.lincolnshireworld.com/sport/football/boston-united-chairman-david-newton-on-the-reasons-behind-craig-elliotts-departure-and-whats-next-for-the-pilgrims-3515510)
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Doesn't even sound like David Newton's convinced himself he's made the right call, reading that!
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Paul Green in charge for the time being.
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get rid of the boo boys and there filthy mouths they are so called fans in little groups all around the ground players shoude point them out fans as well lets name and shame them i think thats wot elliott may be fed up with
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I don't mind people booing managers if they're not happy - free country and all that.
I think what's clear from the reaction to the sacking yesterday was that the fans are split about this - there's a vocal contingent who wanted him gone, just as they wanted Greene gone, but I'd say an equal number were surprised and saddened to see him go now. Can't really say that about any of the other managers we've got rid off.
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I think what Craig would have found frustrating was that sort of regular vitriol from the usual suspects transferred onto the players and their confidence/performance. My guest on Sunday couldn’t believe it. Some of it was embarrassing. Well they got what they wanted - next victim please (preferably older with much thicker skin). The Alfreton manager would give plenty back and face people out so maybe not be such a bad idea…
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Indeed. There's a difference between booing and some of the crap that fans say to managers. We've all heard it.
Funny, some Boston fans gave Heath an earful at Alfreton at the 1-1 a while back, he just laughed in their face and said "How many times have I stopped you lot getting promoted? Two? Three? I’ve lost count."
When you think back to a lot of our managers post PL, they've been a bit "nice". Elliott, Murray, Lee etc have all had to sit there and take dog's abuse from the stands, and one day - perhaps very soon - we'll get someone in who won't just sit there and take it.
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Fully agree. I do hope this is a consideration when choosing the next manager (if he’s not already been chosen, which is likely).
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We need Rob Scott. He will put them in there place. Unsure about the team management but he isn't scared of mouthy fans
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It's the first time I can remember when I'm not sure of my emotions when a manager has left. The booing on Sunday was not good. We all have opinions about tactics/performance etc, but I shall never boo my own team (relatively silent resignation is what I do!). I sit not far from the home dugout, and one bloke on his way out at the end of the game was more or less frothing at the mouth with his bellowed vitriol directed towards CE. Completely unnecessary. After Stratford had deservedly got the draw with us, a few supporters were completely out of order in the abuse they directed towards one of the Stratford coaching team after the game. I felt embarrassed to be a Pilgrim at that moment and wanted to apologize to him. I suppose all clubs have unpleasant supporters.
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It's the first time I can remember when I'm not sure of my emotions when a manager has left. The booing on Sunday was not good. We all have opinions about tactics/performance etc, but I shall never boo my own team (relatively silent resignation is what I do!)........
Fully agree with that and feel just the same.
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Right decision for me. It's a hard one but performances haven't been good, we've had no consistency all season and don't look like we've gone forward. I liked Craig, always thought he came across well and certainly worked hard but it's a results business and he wasn't really getting them this season. Gateshead, Chester and Stratford were all horrendous performances and although I wasn't at Leamington people there have said similar.
It's a tough one but Tuesday night most people have vented some concerns, not all wanted the manager gone but all were unhappy with the recent results and performances so it's probably not a bad thing. Interesting week ahead now.
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https://www.lincolnshireworld.com/sport/football/no-bitterness-or-anger-craig-elliott-discusses-his-boston-united-exit-3516632
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I think our chairman has made the right at the right time ,best of luck to CE for the future.
For me ,culverhouse or heath would seem logical ,but I work with a peterborough sports fan and he mentioned their manager as a possible ,Jimmy Dean .
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https://www.lincolnshireworld.com/sport/football/no-bitterness-or-anger-craig-elliott-discusses-his-boston-united-exit-3516632
I stick to my original statement that something wasn't quite right and the performances at times way below our true capability; and always back the Chairman without whom we simply would not exist today (let alone a fabulous new stadium). Notwithstanding, a very noble and above all else dignified exit interview from Craig - a fundamentally nice bloke. He'll be snapped up and deserves to be. Wish him the very best and a new challenge. Hope to see him again on the circuit.
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I think our chairman has made the right at the right time ,best of luck to CE for the future.
For me ,culverhouse or heath would seem logical ,but I work with a peterborough sports fan and he mentioned their manager as a possible ,Jimmy Dean .
Dean was linked to the Kings Lynn job recently. He has a major shareholding in PS so I would think that could stop him moving on.
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I think what Craig would have found frustrating was that sort of regular vitriol from the usual suspects transferred onto the players and their confidence/performance. My guest on Sunday couldn’t believe it. Some of it was embarrassing. Well they got what they wanted - next victim please (preferably older with much thicker skin). The Alfreton manager would give plenty back and face people out so maybe not be such a bad idea…
In that case Culverhouse is not the man.He's been known to openly criticise supporters than boo his players.
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No problem with that BITC. It needs addressing. In any case, he’s been in the main stand and no doubt seen it himself! ;)
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I have waited a few days before commenting on this thread. I agree something was/isn't right within the camp. Loads of things going on we are not privy to. Obviously DN was aware of these problems and acted.
As I said previously, either CE had his tactics wrong or the players were ignoring them. It was obvious that CE had lost the changing room, if things are to be believed concerning comments aimed at CE from Leesley.
The Alfreton game was a carbon copy of the Brackley match. Hoof ball in the first half, better 2nd half playing through the midfield. I can't believe CE made the same mistake twice. Perhaps that is what made DN's mind up. Anyway, what is done is done. Onwards and upwards.
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https://www.lincolnshireworld.com/sport/football/kevin-wilkin-and-paul-cox-react-to-boston-united-speculation-3523906
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We can rule Curtis Woodhouse out of the running (via Twitter). Thank God.
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We can rule Curtis Woodhouse out of the running (via Twitter). Thank God.
Please explain!
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Very slow process. Very pleased DN is giving this appointment due care and consideration . We have come to expect nothing less.
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We can rule Curtis Woodhouse out of the running (via Twitter). Thank God.
Please explain!
He said it's not him.
https://twitter.com/curtiswoodhous8/status/1484113023669260288
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Paul Cox has resigned from Kettering.... wonder why
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I reckon there's only 1 Conference North manager in the top half who we'd both accept and he'd come - Paul Cox, at Kettering.
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