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Title: King's Lynn
Post by: Dipdodah on February 18, 2020, 09:50:25 PM
Has the bubble burst  ;D ;D. Two defeats on the trot.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Cavalier on February 18, 2020, 09:54:28 PM
Has the bubble burst  ;D ;D. Two defeats on the trot.

...and away to 5th placed Alty on Sat.  3 defeats on the trot is on the cards!  All this since Southwell arrived.  :o
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Lee Newell on February 18, 2020, 10:09:57 PM
Close the gap to 4 points on Saturday and its then going to be a really interesting finish to the season
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: noughtyforties on February 19, 2020, 08:01:47 AM
Still a massive ask to reign them in.

Lets take care of our business first.

Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Oops on February 19, 2020, 09:28:15 AM
Bang on. Got a very busy March.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Dipdodah on February 19, 2020, 10:09:58 AM
I have York as favourites if KL falter.  By far the easiest run in of the top teams.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on February 19, 2020, 11:55:18 AM
Well, things got slightly more interesting - the fact we're even thinking about the title is nice, but I certainly think we're massive outsiders still. Hopefully means we'll be reeling in a few more for the run-in if nothing else!
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Imp Stalker on February 19, 2020, 12:24:54 PM
agree with all the above.  Worry about our games, points on the board are king!
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Burgh Boy on February 20, 2020, 12:46:21 PM
Still a massive ask to reign them in.

Lets take care of our business first.

Well said, Andy. Properly securing the highest play off position is our main priority. If we do catch King's Lynn (or whoever is leading the North Division) and get automatic promotion at the end of the day - then so be it.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on February 22, 2020, 08:35:49 AM
Another midweek game for Lynn as today's away game at Altrincham is postponed.

TEP
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Dipdodah on February 22, 2020, 09:51:52 AM
All pressure.  Get something from today's game we have a big shout.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Dipdodah on March 04, 2020, 09:09:19 AM
Only one point gained from a possible nine. Wobble wobble.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: joshb on March 04, 2020, 06:09:43 PM
Only one point gained from a possible nine. Wobble wobble.
A pity we lost to gateshead and couldn't sneak one last night
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on March 04, 2020, 08:44:56 PM
Southwell on zero goals and Chairman talking about cash flow problems.

TEP
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Artemis on March 04, 2020, 09:15:23 PM
Cash flow problems for KL.
Paying £900 a week for Southwell and...... £1900 a week for Marriott. Both unsustainable in this league.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Lee Newell on March 04, 2020, 10:41:17 PM
Cash flow problems for KL.
Paying £900 a week for Southwell and...... £1900 a week for Marriott. Both unsustainable in this league.

Are Lynn seriously paying that?  Huge money for part time at this level.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Old boy thin on March 05, 2020, 10:13:39 AM
Cash flow problems for KL.
Paying £900 a week for Southwell and...... £1900 a week for Marriott. Both unsustainable in this league.

Are Lynn seriously paying that?  Huge money for part time at this level.
I don't really know TBH, the rumours have been circulating a while regarding them paying out big wages.
But unless you have access to there wages bill, then none of us can truly say what they pay.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on March 05, 2020, 10:46:10 AM
The Southwell wage is about right, yes. I hadn't heard the Marriott figure before but if that's true that's unbelievable for this level. Completely unsustainable.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: pieman pete on March 05, 2020, 01:52:44 PM
Cannot believe that Marriott is on that amount of money, absolutely ridiculous
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: green hats mate on March 05, 2020, 02:20:32 PM
I and many others were certain Marriot would leave Lynn in January ,   If the claim is right about his pay no wonder nobody took him on .
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: joshb on March 05, 2020, 08:16:06 PM
I heard something about tom ward being on 400 a week so I suppose it is all believable....

Let nature take its course
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: York Street Pilgrim on March 06, 2020, 07:00:44 AM
Don't like to see clubs fold. However...

If King's Lynn went belly up as quickly as North Ferriby did and their record was expunged, we would lose no points and York would lose three. We'd then be second in the league, three points behind the leaders York and with two games in hand. I'd then expect us to go up automatically.

But let's win this league in better circumstances.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on March 06, 2020, 08:02:21 AM
I think that's highly unlikely, and in any event I would HATE to win the league like that. I'd much prefer King's Lynn to spend within their means and not get into trouble in the first place! And are they even in trouble right now? I've not heard anything, and if their chairman's chucking the money in for now then they'll easily last the season out. It's next season he's going to have a nasty surprise and may reconsider bankrolling them. The National League has ruined Chorley's finances.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Linnet on March 06, 2020, 08:05:05 AM
Thanks for all the concerns about our finances.....however it's not that bad just a temporary thing as by the time we play at home next Tuesday against Bradford it'll be 5/6 weeks since a home game which most clubs would struggle with! No sign of anything not being paid. There is no hint of us not finishing the season (sorry to disappoint).

One thing I like about non-league is that I always enjoy fans of other clubs who seems to know other clubs wage bills......always take it with a pitch of salt unless it's come from our chairman or manager, which I'm sure it hasn't!! Lots of good "sources" in non-league football.

Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season. Going to be an exciting run in.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: semion on March 06, 2020, 04:47:43 PM
Come on guys we have to be careful when we start throwing the brown stuff about.   Glasshouses, Evans etc.   Certainly done for us, and lucky to be back where we are.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on March 06, 2020, 06:26:50 PM
Things must be ok, the players and staff are all heading up to Gateshead tonight, in preparation for the game tomorrow. Overnight stops in this league are a nice luxury to be able to afford.

TEP
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: joshb on March 06, 2020, 06:30:53 PM
I think that's highly unlikely, and in any event I would HATE to win the league like that. I'd much prefer King's Lynn to spend within their means and not get into trouble in the first place! And are they even in trouble right now? I've not heard anything, and if their chairman's chucking the money in for now then they'll easily last the season out. It's next season he's going to have a nasty surprise and may reconsider bankrolling them. The National League has ruined Chorley's finances.
495 at chorley on Tuesday night
Never went near that in conference North. That said, before their triple promotion they were in level 8 Constantly struggling to get beyond 200 gates
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: green hats mate on March 07, 2020, 10:00:27 AM
I think that's highly unlikely, and in any event I would HATE to win the league like that. I'd much prefer King's Lynn to spend within their means and not get into trouble in the first place! And are they even in trouble right now? I've not heard anything, and if their chairman's chucking the money in for now then they'll easily last the season out. It's next season he's going to have a nasty surprise and may reconsider bankrolling them. The National League has ruined Chorley's finances.
495 at chorley on Tuesday night
Never went near that in conference North. That said, before their triple promotion they were in level 8 Constantly struggling to get beyond 200 gates

Often happens josh ,  many assume promotion increases gates , winning games in a lower league draws bigger gates than getting promotion and losing games on a regular basis .
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: green hats mate on March 07, 2020, 10:04:00 AM
Come on guys we have to be careful when we start throwing the brown stuff about.   Glasshouses, Evans etc.   Certainly done for us, and lucky to be back where we are.
     
             True semion ,  If Lynn go bust they will be in a better place than we were ,  their ground belongs to the council.


Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Dipdodah on March 07, 2020, 12:27:15 PM
A very tough game for them today. Away to the best team I  have seen down York street this season.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Old boy thin on March 07, 2020, 01:57:41 PM
Come on guys we have to be careful when we start throwing the brown stuff about.   Glasshouses, Evans etc.   Certainly done for us, and lucky to be back where we are.
     
             True semion ,  If Lynn go bust they will be in a better place than we were ,  their ground belongs to the council.
If they did go belly up, l wouldn't count on the council to do them any favours, they refused to help out last time, and if Lynn hasn't learned their lessons from that, why would the council want to bailout them out this time.
Houses looking over the Walks would be much more of a attractive prospect than a football ground.
God l am cynical.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: green hats mate on March 07, 2020, 03:37:35 PM
Come on guys we have to be careful when we start throwing the brown stuff about.   Glasshouses, Evans etc.   Certainly done for us, and lucky to be back where we are.
     
             True semion ,  If Lynn go bust they will be in a better place than we were ,  their ground belongs to the council.
If they did go belly up, l wouldn't count on the council to do them any favours, they refused to help out last time, and if Lynn hasn't learned their lessons from that, why would the council want to bailout them out this time.
Houses looking over the Walks would be much more of a attractive prospect than a football ground.
God l am cynical.
YS belongs to private owners , if Chestnuts had not come in to keep the club trading we would have been evicted and the ground sold . And a reformed club would have had no ground .
I would think if KL went belly up the council would let a reformed club rent the ground .
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: The Third Twin on March 07, 2020, 03:45:29 PM
Come on guys we have to be careful when we start throwing the brown stuff about.   Glasshouses, Evans etc.   Certainly done for us, and lucky to be back where we are.
     
             True semion ,  If Lynn go bust they will be in a better place than we were ,  their ground belongs to the council.
If they did go belly up, l wouldn't count on the council to do them any favours, they refused to help out last time, and if Lynn hasn't learned their lessons from that, why would the council want to bailout them out this time.
Houses looking over the Walks would be much more of a attractive prospect than a football ground.
God l am cynical.
YS belongs to private owners , if Chestnuts had not come in to keep the club trading we would have been evicted and the ground sold . And a reformed club would have had no ground .
I would think if KL went belly up the council would let a reformed club rent the ground .
it's exactly what happened 10 seasons ago. KL were wound up mid season and reformed the following year. It was the same Unibond season we beat Durham 10-0. KL had scored 11 against them but it was expunged from the records due to KL packing up.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Blue is the Colour on March 07, 2020, 08:35:10 PM
Cash flow problems for KL.
Paying £900 a week for Southwell and...... £1900 a week for Marriott. Both unsustainable in this league.
Sorry, but this is nonsense.
Marriott is indeed the biggest earner at Kings Lynn, but he's on £800 per week, which is still plenty at this level. Southwell was not offered anymore from Kings Lynn than he was offered elsewhere, but choose Kings Lynn. A professional such as Southwell would take into account the Management set up as well as what's on offer financially and I have to say as far as that goes, Kings Lynn seem to have the lead due to Culverhouse.
Anyway Southwell and what he's earning is not that important  in the grand scheme of things, apart from meaning that Kings Lynn now have a full squad to choose from, which is sonething they have not had for most of the season.The difference between Kings Lynn and otber Clubs is Culverhouse and his ability to get the right player at the right time. This can be seen in recent weeks when utilising his contacts with Norwich, and when he managed to get Power on loan. This lad could fit straight into most Championship sides (yes, he is that good). Norwich keen to keep him on their books and he is earmarked to be a regular Norwich first team player next season.
I don't think people should worry about Kings Lynn and what they spend, especially in future seasons,  as a closer tie up with Norwich is on the cards so more players such as Power will be Lynn bound, and financially that makes a lot of sense for both parties.
Playing Championship players at this level though.......not sure if I think thats fair or not!
Could all be academic though as latest rumour is that its a straight race between Warnock and Culverhouse if Lambert gets the chop.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Tash on March 08, 2020, 09:05:02 AM
Cash flow problems for KL.
Paying £900 a week for Southwell and...... £1900 a week for Marriott. Both unsustainable in this league.
Sorry, but this is nonsense.
Marriott is indeed the biggest earner at Kings Lynn, but he's on £800 per week, which is still plenty at this level. Southwell was not offered anymore from Kings Lynn than he was offered elsewhere, but choose Kings Lynn. A professional such as Southwell would take into account the Management set up as well as what's on offer financially and I have to say as far as that goes, Kings Lynn seem to have the lead due to Culverhouse.
Anyway Southwell and what he's earning is not that important  in the grand scheme of things, apart from meaning that Kings Lynn now have a full squad to choose from, which is sonething they have not had for most of the season.The difference between Kings Lynn and otber Clubs is Culverhouse and his ability to get the right player at the right time. This can be seen in recent weeks when utilising his contacts with Norwich, and when he managed to get Power on loan. This lad could fit straight into most Championship sides (yes, he is that good). Norwich keen to keep him on their books and he is earmarked to be a regular Norwich first team player next season.
I don't think people should worry about Kings Lynn and what they spend, especially in future seasons,  as a closer tie up with Norwich is on the cards so more players such as Power will be Lynn bound, and financially that makes a lot of sense for both parties.
Playing Championship players at this level though.......not sure if I think thats fair or not!
Could all be academic though as latest rumour is that its a straight race between Warnock and Culverhouse if Lambert gets the chop.

Good post Blue, I thought wages at Lynn had been exaggerated plus the fact it’s got little to do with me as Boston fan anyway. Do you think the Tractor boys will come looking for IC? And more to the point would he go to the enemy 😀
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Old boy thin on March 08, 2020, 09:33:37 AM
Cash flow problems for KL.
Paying £900 a week for Southwell and...... £1900 a week for Marriott. Both unsustainable in this league.
Sorry, but this is nonsense.
Marriott is indeed the biggest earner at Kings Lynn, but he's on £800 per week, which is still plenty at this level. Southwell was not offered anymore from Kings Lynn than he was offered elsewhere, but choose Kings Lynn. A professional such as Southwell would take into account the Management set up as well as what's on offer financially and I have to say as far as that goes, Kings Lynn seem to have the lead due to Culverhouse.
Anyway Southwell and what he's earning is not that important  in the grand scheme of things, apart from meaning that Kings Lynn now have a full squad to choose from, which is sonething they have not had for most of the season.The difference between Kings Lynn and otber Clubs is Culverhouse and his ability to get the right player at the right time. This can be seen in recent weeks when utilising his contacts with Norwich, and when he managed to get Power on loan. This lad could fit straight into most Championship sides (yes, he is that good). Norwich keen to keep him on their books and he is earmarked to be a regular Norwich first team player next season.
I don't think people should worry about Kings Lynn and what they spend, especially in future seasons,  as a closer tie up with Norwich is on the cards so more players such as Power will be Lynn bound, and financially that makes a lot of sense for both parties.
Playing Championship players at this level though.......not sure if I think thats fair or not!
Could all be academic though as latest rumour is that its a straight race between Warnock and Culverhouse if Lambert gets the chop.
So then what happens if Culverhouse goes, as he is obviously the main link between Norwich and Lynn.
I am sure he will be keeping those links going if he moves on.
You shouldn't rely on to many loan players that are firmly in the future plans of their mother club.
Boston did that under Green with Sunderland and when those players returned to their club, we were left with massive holes to plug, which we couldn't.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Old boy thin on March 08, 2020, 09:52:14 AM
Come on guys we have to be careful when we start throwing the brown stuff about.   Glasshouses, Evans etc.   Certainly done for us, and lucky to be back where we are.
     
             True semion ,  If Lynn go bust they will be in a better place than we were ,  their ground belongs to the council.
If they did go belly up, l wouldn't count on the council to do them any favours, they refused to help out last time, and if Lynn hasn't learned their lessons from that, why would the council want to bailout them out this time.
Houses looking over the Walks would be much more of a attractive prospect than a football ground.
God l am cynical.
YS belongs to private owners , if Chestnuts had not come in to keep the club trading we would have been evicted and the ground sold . And a reformed club would have had no ground .
I would think if KL went belly up the council would let a reformed club rent the ground .
No sorry they wouldn't, the money they would get from the ground if sold to a property developer would be millions, it would take decades to earn that out of rent.
Believe me councils are  not sentimental or benevolent, they have to act for benefit of all not just a few football fans.
That's business l am afraid, we only held on to York Street because we didn't get wound up in the high court, so technically we still held the lease, and the fact we had the Malkinsons as owners who obviously have an emotional connection with the club.
The other side to this is that, what happens when the lease has  expired at the Walks, unless it is written into your contract the landlord does not have to give you an extension or renew your lease.
That's the same in any kind of lease agreement, many clubs are trying to either buy there ground from their landlords or move to one they own, much like we are doing.
Probably that's why Lynn's chairman is not prepared to sink more of his money into the infrastructure of the club, if he knows that the landlord will not sell it to him or renew the lease.
Lynn will need to move away from the Walks if they want to be self sufficient going forward, they are in many respects in the same position as we are or were.

Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Blue is the Colour on March 08, 2020, 12:39:58 PM
Kings Lynn Chairman likes to hear his own voice so it’s no secret that he’s just persuaded the Council to extend the lease. I think it was said has 21 years left on it now.
Two things would stop Developers getting their hands on it, which is a shame for Lynn fans as it must be worth Millions and they could well afford to build a new stadium for the Club from the proceeds.
Their Trust has registered the ground as a place of community interest, and apparently there is a Covenant on there to stop it being developed.
A massive bonus for Kings Lynn is that the ground is on a Peppercorn rent, of less than £50 a week. That goes a long way to explain how they can afford to do what they do.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Blue is the Colour on March 08, 2020, 12:53:46 PM

Probably that's why Lynn's chairman is not prepared to sink more of his money into the infrastructure of the club, if he knows that the landlord will not sell it to him or renew the lease.
Lynn will need to move away from the Walks if they want to be self sufficient going forward, they are in many respects in the same position as we are or were.

Looking at their accounts and their Chairman’s recent comments about cash flow, I think there’s a far more simpler reason why he apparently said at start of season he wasn’t going to continue pumping his money in. A business failure last year leaving local traders out of pocket and the sale of his pub. Draw your own conclusions.
Seen it all before when it comes to football. People never learn. There’s always someone who thinks he’s going to be a White Knight but learns their lesson when it’s too late.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Old boy thin on March 08, 2020, 02:03:34 PM

Probably that's why Lynn's chairman is not prepared to sink more of his money into the infrastructure of the club, if he knows that the landlord will not sell it to him or renew the lease.
Lynn will need to move away from the Walks if they want to be self sufficient going forward, they are in many respects in the same position as we are or were.

Looking at their accounts and their Chairman’s recent comments about cash flow, I think there’s a far more simpler reason why he apparently said at start of season he wasn’t going to continue pumping his money in. A business failure last year leaving local traders out of pocket and the sale of his pub. Draw your own conclusions.
Seem it all before when it comes to football. People never learn. There’s always someone who thinks he’s going to be a White Knight but learns their lesson when it’s too late.
Very true words, let's hope though none of these rumours come true.
I quite like having a local rival a few miles down the road.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: green hats mate on March 08, 2020, 03:07:14 PM
Cash flow problems for KL.
Paying £900 a week for Southwell and...... £1900 a week for Marriott. Both unsustainable in this league.
Sorry, but this is nonsense.
Marriott is indeed the biggest earner at Kings Lynn, but he's on £800 per week, which is still plenty at this level. Southwell was not offered anymore from Kings Lynn than he was offered elsewhere, but choose Kings Lynn. A professional such as Southwell would take into account the Management set up as well as what's on offer financially and I have to say as far as that goes, Kings Lynn seem to have the lead due to Culverhouse.
Anyway Southwell and what he's earning is not that important  in the grand scheme of things, apart from meaning that Kings Lynn now have a full squad to choose from, which is sonething they have not had for most of the season.The difference between Kings Lynn and otber Clubs is Culverhouse and his ability to get the right player at the right time. This can be seen in recent weeks when utilising his contacts with Norwich, and when he managed to get Power on loan. This lad could fit straight into most Championship sides (yes, he is that good). Norwich keen to keep him on their books and he is earmarked to be a regular Norwich first team player next season.
I don't think people should worry about Kings Lynn and what they spend, especially in future seasons,  as a closer tie up with Norwich is on the cards so more players such as Power will be Lynn bound, and financially that makes a lot of sense for both parties.
Playing Championship players at this level though.......not sure if I think thats fair or not!
Could all be academic though as latest rumour is that its a straight race between Warnock and Culverhouse if Lambert gets the chop.
So then what happens if Culverhouse goes, as he is obviously the main link between Norwich and Lynn.
I am sure he will be keeping those links going if he moves on.
You shouldn't rely on to many loan players that are firmly in the future plans of their mother club.
Boston did that under Green with Sunderland and when those players returned to their club, we were left with massive holes to plug, which we couldn't.

With Boston apart from the Sunderland link we lost  .  Southwell. Pidge . Garner , Mills and  Felix .   A player on a years loan is no different to a team on one year contracts which is common in our league .     That's the reality of not being able to afford to tie players up with long term contracts , as we found out we lost half the team at a stroke .
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Blue is the Colour on March 08, 2020, 03:13:54 PM
Do you think the Tractor boys will come looking for IC? And more to the point would he go to the enemy 😀

If I was him and with past history, I'd love to be able to prove I could succeed where Lambert has failed.
I think Lambert may have dodged the bullet for now, so may have to be until end of the season to see if anything comes of it.
I would doubt Culverhouse would have any concerns about going to the enemy.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: semion on March 08, 2020, 04:33:43 PM
Kings Lynn only pay £50 in peppercorn rent.   What do the local council tax payers think to that in Lynn, when they are paying players £800 a week.

Hardly surprising they can afford a huge wage bill when they enjoy that kind of support from the local tax payer.   These councils are very good at spending other people’s money.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on March 17, 2020, 05:41:54 PM
King's Lynn Town Football Club has this afternoon appealed for fans to help them cover club costs as the Coronavirus outbreak shuts down normal life in Britain.

The Linnets say they are facing a shortfall of around £100,000 in income as a result of the suspension of the National League season.

Lynn currently has four games left to play but with current Government advice discouraging large gatherings of people there is no indication of when, or even if, the fixtures will be completed.

A statement on the club's website said: "As you will be aware the National League suspended it's three leagues until at least April 3 due to the outbreak of the COVID-19 virus.

"With four home league games remaining to be played, and with no guarantee that these will be completed in the near future, the club is facing a lack of income.
 
"This comes from gate money, matchday hospitality and catering programme and merchandise sales along with numerous events in the Blue and Gold Clubroom which are being cancelled in wake of the latest advice from the government.

"With all of this combined we estimate a total shortfall of around £100,000 which is required to pay wages and various other bills associated with running a business.

"Club chairman Stephen Cleeve has agreed to cover some of the shortfall himself but cannot commit to being able to cover the rest at this time.

"It is with this is mind that we are asking that if people who have purchased tickets for the Brackley game, or coach travel to Kettering, are able to give this money to the club as a donation we would be most appreciative.

"Refunds are available by contacting Zoe Sandle via email (zoe.sandle@kltown.co.uk) by Friday, March 20, at 3pm.

"The club are also selling off the Southport match programmes for £3, including postage and packing.

A link will shortly be live on the website (follow the match ticket lin ) to purchase and you will need to send a Stamp addressed envelope to: Mark Hearle, King's Lynn Town FC, The Walks Stadium, Tennyson Road, King's Lynn, Norfolk, PE30 5PB.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Deeping Pilgrim on March 17, 2020, 06:01:22 PM
Thank God this is the season that we had a decent FA Cup run, the extra money generated from that will certainly help in the coming few weeks of non-activity.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Old boy thin on March 17, 2020, 08:36:38 PM
King's Lynn Town Football Club has this afternoon appealed for fans to help them cover club costs as the Coronavirus outbreak shuts down normal life in Britain.

The Linnets say they are facing a shortfall of around £100,000 in income as a result of the suspension of the National League season.

Lynn currently has four games left to play but with current Government advice discouraging large gatherings of people there is no indication of when, or even if, the fixtures will be completed.

A statement on the club's website said: "As you will be aware the National League suspended it's three leagues until at least April 3 due to the outbreak of the COVID-19 virus.

"With four home league games remaining to be played, and with no guarantee that these will be completed in the near future, the club is facing a lack of income.
 
"This comes from gate money, matchday hospitality and catering programme and merchandise sales along with numerous events in the Blue and Gold Clubroom which are being cancelled in wake of the latest advice from the government.

"With all of this combined we estimate a total shortfall of around £100,000 which is required to pay wages and various other bills associated with running a business.

"Club chairman Stephen Cleeve has agreed to cover some of the shortfall himself but cannot commit to being able to cover the rest at this time.

"It is with this is mind that we are asking that if people who have purchased tickets for the Brackley game, or coach travel to Kettering, are able to give this money to the club as a donation we would be most appreciative.

"Refunds are available by contacting Zoe Sandle via email (zoe.sandle@kltown.co.uk) by Friday, March 20, at 3pm.

"The club are also selling off the Southport match programmes for £3, including postage and packing.

A link will shortly be live on the website (follow the match ticket lin ) to purchase and you will need to send a Stamp addressed envelope to: Mark Hearle, King's Lynn Town FC, The Walks Stadium, Tennyson Road, King's Lynn, Norfolk, PE30 5PB.
Living beyond their means, extreme circumstances that nobody could have predicted.
But l would suspect the wage bill must be somewhat big, if the club can't afford to pay it.
I mean, if they are relying on people to come through the turnstiles to pay the wages, then that's an extremely risky tactic.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: noughtyforties on March 18, 2020, 08:01:19 AM
£100,000 shortfall

4 games left

Average gate 1400

1400 x £12 x 4 = £67,200

The maths don't add up.

It'll end in tears

Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on March 18, 2020, 08:39:26 AM
It's almost like their wage bill is huge.... who could ever have guessed it?
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: BostonGoals on March 18, 2020, 09:30:18 AM
I do have sympathy for fans of clubs that go bust, it doesn’t take much, a bad season or two or some dodgy owners - we know that better than anyone.

However I have no sympathy for a club to be in the position of going bankrupt twice, that should simply not happen. What happened to learning your lessons?
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: green hats mate on March 18, 2020, 10:32:57 AM
£100,000 shortfall

4 games left

Average gate 1400

1400 x £12 x 4 = £67,200

The maths don't add up.

It'll end in tears

If your gate estimate is correct a figure of £50k in income is the tops Andy .   Deduct Vat and season ticket holders .
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: mdfman on March 18, 2020, 11:25:08 AM
The attempts on here to sum up another clubs finances with a couple of multiplications when you have no clue what's going on are laughable.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Burgh Boy on March 18, 2020, 12:06:25 PM
Have to agree with the majority of my fellow posters that, sadly, it is not looking too rosy at the moment for The Linnets from a financial viewpoint given the statement given on their website. They are not the only club to suffer from a large wage bill and other expenses whilst performing at a regional non-league football level and this, of course, has not been lessened by the fact that there are no paying spectators for the foreseeable future. Tragically, the phoenix King's Lynn Town's issues are just the tip of the iceberg for football in this and other countries. 
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Fishtoft Crew on March 18, 2020, 12:14:15 PM
Well I hope they do not go under, Im sure they won. The main reason is that they are our derby day neighbours and we all enjoy them big days, albeit they treat away fans awfully.Along with the fact that we have also paid top dollar for many of our players, albeit in envelopes hence why we got in a mess years ago.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: The Third Twin on March 18, 2020, 08:51:00 PM
Well I hope they do not go under, Im sure they won. The main reason is that they are our derby day neighbours and we all enjoy them big days, albeit they treat away fans awfully.Along with the fact that we have also paid top dollar for many of our players, albeit in envelopes hence why we got in a mess years ago.
they went under before approx 10 years ago and folded mid season, to be abandoned by  their fans, who are only turning up again with the current success, and will disappear just as quickly when it stops, so I admire your outlook, but as you says the fans are awful, so don't feel too sorry for them. There more than a few similarities and comparisons between them and Ferriby of a few seasons ago, and they were an obnoxious bunch too, and look where they are now. I like to call it Karma, and it will bite your ass!
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: semion on March 20, 2020, 05:33:52 PM
I see Kings Lynn have given £500 in a week.  Well that’s Marriot paid Monday to Thursday week one.  What about the other 20 players.?

Seems like if the Chairman cannot find a 100 grand to get them through this crisis what hope will he have of financing a team at the Top Level of Non League football next season.   Lynn fans throwing a few pounds at it seems like chucking good money away.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Blue is the Colour on March 20, 2020, 07:35:33 PM
The attempts on here to sum up another clubs finances with a couple of multiplications when you have no clue what's going on are laughable.
Couldn't agree more. Someone on here couln't even get the admission price correct when doing his sums. Same as when people speculate on players wages. Laughable at times.
Silly of their Chairman to go cap in hand to the supporters the way he has though. Dispels the myth that he appears to like to perpetuate that he is a very wealthy man. Has he sold the Bentley now? If so, I hope he can remember if it was leased or not!
I woud guess that a grand sum of £500 achieved so far by supporters pressing the Donate button proves that he's on his own when it comes to finances. Not too many supporters donating if, as according to their forum, one has donated £100 and another £60! Well apparently he likes to work on his own and unimpeded, so doubt that he will be too bothered about that?
Corona virus can't be blamed for the Clubs current hardship, if a top of table club with a massive  upturn in gates and income needs 100k to get them to end of season. Looks like a case of hand to mouth finances. Someone appears to have got carried away and a lack of business and common sense is coming back to bite him.
Be a shame if the Club does suffer due to one individuals actions. Apart from the circa 300k (Club accounts) he's put in (sale of pub?) to get them to the position they are in, I don't think the majority of Kings Lynn supporters think he has brought anything else to the Club.
Supporters also wondering why they are hearing nothing from Culverhouse or their Director of Football. If they are asking for hand outs from supporters to fund their wages, you would think they would at least have the decency to communicate with them.
As Semion has said, could be good money after bad.
Strange lot down the Road.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Old boy thin on March 23, 2020, 06:24:12 AM
The attempts on here to sum up another clubs finances with a couple of multiplications when you have no clue what's going on are laughable.
Couldn't agree more. Someone on here couln't even get the admission price correct when doing his sums. Same as when people speculate on players wages. Laughable at times.
Silly of their Chairman to go cap in hand to the supporters the way he has though. Dispels the myth that he appears to like to perpetuate that he is a very wealthy man. Has he sold the Bentley now? If so, I hope he can remember if it was leased or not!
I woud guess that a grand sum of £500 achieved so far by supporters pressing the Donate button proves that he's on his own when it comes to finances. Not too many supporters donating if, as according to their forum, one has donated £100 and another £60! Well apparently he likes to work on his own and unimpeded, so doubt that he will be too bothered about that?
Corona virus can't be blamed for the Clubs current hardship, if a top of table club with a massive  upturn in gates and income needs 100k to get them to end of season. Looks like a case of hand to mouth finances. Someone appears to have got carried away and a lack of business and common sense is coming back to bite him.
Be a shame if the Club does suffer due to one individuals actions. Apart from the circa 300k (Club accounts) he's put in (sale of pub?) to get them to the position they are in, I don't think the majority of Kings Lynn supporters think he has brought anything else to the Club.
Supporters also wondering why they are hearing nothing from Culverhouse or their Director of Football. If they are asking for hand outs from supporters to fund their wages, you would think they would at least have the decency to communicate with them.
As Semion has said, could be good money after bad.
Strange lot down the Road.
I suppose at the end of the day, everything will come out at the end of the season, no matter how much has been spent etc, nobody can deny that so far Culverhouse and Bazza have done a great job, but after all it is the chairman's job to control the finances, as l have always said, if our late chairman had said no to Evan's we probably wouldn't have gone bust.
But l do believe the fuse was lit long before Evan's arrived.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: green hats mate on March 23, 2020, 10:49:40 AM
The attempts on here to sum up another clubs finances with a couple of multiplications when you have no clue what's going on are laughable.
Couldn't agree more. Someone on here couln't even get the admission price correct when doing his sums. Same as when people speculate on players wages. Laughable at times.
Silly of their Chairman to go cap in hand to the supporters the way he has though. Dispels the myth that he appears to like to perpetuate that he is a very wealthy man. Has he sold the Bentley now? If so, I hope he can remember if it was leased or not!
I woud guess that a grand sum of £500 achieved so far by supporters pressing the Donate button proves that he's on his own when it comes to finances. Not too many supporters donating if, as according to their forum, one has donated £100 and another £60! Well apparently he likes to work on his own and unimpeded, so doubt that he will be too bothered about that?
Corona virus can't be blamed for the Clubs current hardship, if a top of table club with a massive  upturn in gates and income needs 100k to get them to end of season. Looks like a case of hand to mouth finances. Someone appears to have got carried away and a lack of business and common sense is coming back to bite him.
Be a shame if the Club does suffer due to one individuals actions. Apart from the circa 300k (Club accounts) he's put in (sale of pub?) to get them to the position they are in, I don't think the majority of Kings Lynn supporters think he has brought anything else to the Club.
Supporters also wondering why they are hearing nothing from Culverhouse or their Director of Football. If they are asking for hand outs from supporters to fund their wages, you would think they would at least have the decency to communicate with them.
As Semion has said, could be good money after bad.
Strange lot down the Road.
I suppose at the end of the day, everything will come out at the end of the season, no matter how much has been spent etc, nobody can deny that so far Culverhouse and Bazza have done a great job, but after all it is the chairman's job to control the finances, as l have always said, if our late chairman had said no to Evan's we probably wouldn't have gone bust.
But l do believe the fuse was lit long before Evan's arrived.

Too much focus on Kings Lynn .   How many teams at our level can survive on gate money ?   
I foresee even more lower league footballers than we have become accustomed to out of a club in August .   As it will be in most professions pay cuts will be the order of  the day .   
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: noughtyforties on March 23, 2020, 12:55:51 PM
The attempts on here to sum up another clubs finances with a couple of multiplications when you have no clue what's going on are laughable.
Couldn't agree more. Someone on here couln't even get the admission price correct when doing his sums. Same as when people speculate on players wages. Laughable at times.
Silly of their Chairman to go cap in hand to the supporters the way he has though. Dispels the myth that he appears to like to perpetuate that he is a very wealthy man. Has he sold the Bentley now? If so, I hope he can remember if it was leased or not!
I woud guess that a grand sum of £500 achieved so far by supporters pressing the Donate button proves that he's on his own when it comes to finances. Not too many supporters donating if, as according to their forum, one has donated £100 and another £60! Well apparently he likes to work on his own and unimpeded, so doubt that he will be too bothered about that?
Corona virus can't be blamed for the Clubs current hardship, if a top of table club with a massive  upturn in gates and income needs 100k to get them to end of season. Looks like a case of hand to mouth finances. Someone appears to have got carried away and a lack of business and common sense is coming back to bite him.
Be a shame if the Club does suffer due to one individuals actions. Apart from the circa 300k (Club accounts) he's put in (sale of pub?) to get them to the position they are in, I don't think the majority of Kings Lynn supporters think he has brought anything else to the Club.
Supporters also wondering why they are hearing nothing from Culverhouse or their Director of Football. If they are asking for hand outs from supporters to fund their wages, you would think they would at least have the decency to communicate with them.
As Semion has said, could be good money after bad.
Strange lot down the Road.
I suppose at the end of the day, everything will come out at the end of the season, no matter how much has been spent etc, nobody can deny that so far Culverhouse and Bazza have done a great job, but after all it is the chairman's job to control the finances, as l have always said, if our late chairman had said no to Evan's we probably wouldn't have gone bust.
But l do believe the fuse was lit long before Evan's arrived.

Too much focus on Kings Lynn .   How many teams at our level can survive on gate money ?   
I foresee even more lower league footballers than we have become accustomed to out of a club in August .   As it will be in most professions pay cuts will be the order of  the day .

Hope you're right Pete, for too long absolutely mediocre 6th rate players have been earning salaries that totally dwarf their ability. If one thing good comes out of this whole episode its that a little more common sense is applied to wages at ALL levels of football.
Of course give it 6 months and another KL type situation is bound to arise.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Pilgrim86 on March 27, 2020, 11:38:45 PM
They signed a player for a fee this week...
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on March 28, 2020, 07:18:43 AM
Breaking news from the Walks tonight as @officialKLtown sign defender @AlexTBrown3 from @Buxton_FC for an undisclosed fee. The youngster is an England C international.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Artemis on March 28, 2020, 12:08:49 PM
They signed a player for a fee this week...

Seems a bit odd when the Chairman is asking for donations because of a £100,000 short fall especially when no one knows when the season will recommence.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: semion on March 28, 2020, 03:11:35 PM
Maybe their Chairman has sold a few bottles of his vintage port or a few parcels of his land has been given planning permission.

Amazing what some supporters will believe and buy into.
Title: Re: King's Lynn
Post by: Old boy thin on March 28, 2020, 04:43:32 PM
Breaking news from the Walks tonight as @officialKLtown sign defender @AlexTBrown3 from @Buxton_FC for an undisclosed fee. The youngster is an England C international.
Only England C, l would have thought with the amount of money they have, it would have been at least a England under 21 player.