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The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Bodge on August 17, 2019, 04:25:36 PM

Title: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Bodge on August 17, 2019, 04:25:36 PM
First game, same crap as last year, an hour against 10 men and we’ve created virtually nothing.
Title: Re: Chorley (H)
Post by: steve m on August 17, 2019, 04:45:03 PM
Thought we were playing Guiseley.....
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: brummie exile 1960 on August 17, 2019, 05:17:39 PM
The Twitter feed is remarkable. It is almost devoid of any chances whatsoever. Against 10 men for 70 minutes. Get George Greene in NOW.

P. S I am 90% sure the away game with Gloucester will be played at Evesham United's ground. Myself and 'er indoors will be there. Suitably refreshed.
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Fishtoft Crew on August 17, 2019, 05:33:52 PM
Bodge you talk crap after watching one game have you seen their results.  Yes we had numerical advantage but they were strong and organised and then sat behind the ball. Yes we need to get smarter in top third.  Set pieces was going to be their chance and took it well. Sometimes playing ten is hard work and frustrating .  But crap no unbeaten and can do a lot better but fans like you putting that when we haven’t lost a game have a word with yourself or stay in and watch sky. 
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: green hats mate on August 17, 2019, 06:46:17 PM
Four games 4 goals .   1goal an own goal ,  1goal a gift from Alfreton goalie ,  2 pens well earned and taken by wide man Thewis .       Only shot on target 1st half was from full back Whittle .   
Not seen our strikers get a shot  on target yet this season .          Tuton based on his career goal return and his showing over the last season is not good enough to sit on the bench of a side with asperations of the play-offs .    Knowles at the moment and on his career scoring record looks as though he will fall short of Allotts goal return of last season .
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Winging It on August 17, 2019, 06:58:35 PM
There is two ways of looking at the start to the season. (1) We are still unbeaten, or (2) Disappointing start what with so many draws.
Classic 'glass half full/half empty' moment.  Guiseley are our 'bogey team', so I'm not surprised we struggled to beat them to be fair. 
But there is no hiding the fact that we are struggling for goals thus far as pointed out by GHM.
Start to the season a generous 7/10
Now onto the next one and a much needed three points!
Hard to believe that the Linnet's are flying high way above us  :o
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Bodge on August 17, 2019, 07:10:08 PM
Fishtoft Crew, I’m not talking crap we are playing crap. That display today was no better than last seasons dross except for a 10 minute spell when we scored. Nowhere near good enough, I don’t buy this hard to play against 10 men drivel, we had 70 minutes to wear them down yet at the start of the 2nd half they controlled the game.
I liked the look of Thewlis and the 2 central defenders seem decent but we conceded from a corner, how many times did we concede the same type of goal last year.

Bloody Rubbish Boston.
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Ed Kandii on August 17, 2019, 07:14:25 PM
It was a struggle against a strong Guiseley side.
Improved when Thanoj came on IMO  8)
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Ed Kandii on August 17, 2019, 07:15:48 PM
The pa system also struggled... anyone hear the attendance?
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: beefpilgrim on August 17, 2019, 08:10:41 PM
1055
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Ed Kandii on August 17, 2019, 08:12:33 PM
Thanks beef  8)
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on August 17, 2019, 10:29:50 PM
Playing against 10 men doesn't mean it's going to be a guaranteed win. Sometimes the 10 really dig in and with everyone behind the ball, it can be a frustrating affair. Anyone that has played the game at a decent level knows this. Having said that, we're not firing on all cylinders at the moment. I think we have decent strikers, midfielders and defenders but we're lacking a little cohesion and creativity. Hopefully the enforced changes which will come about next week will help resolve this.

I'm not too fussed though. The league can't be won in August but you can pretty much cock it up if you have three or four defeats. This month is all about finding your feet, keeping it tight at the back and if you kick-start an unbeaten run then even better.

TEP
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Fishtoft Crew on August 17, 2019, 11:01:00 PM
Guisley have started the season strongly there best two players were Garns and Felix a well drilled team so respect to them but to call us crap.  Really we are a team in transition last year we lost one nil. Take the positives. Fans like you really disappoint that was two evenly matched teams it’s only mid August and the team you support is crap I’ll pay you not to come.
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: The Third Twin on August 17, 2019, 11:05:45 PM
The opposition was strong and well drilled. Their game management after going down to 10 was better than ours with 11 until they ran out of steam in the last 15 minutes. The lack of chances we had was down to tactical superiority by their bench. They played narrow, they were stronger and they found so many different ways to wind down the clock.
The frustrating thing for me was against Leamington we passed the ball crisply and to feet. Today we seemed to revert to a longer delivery to the front men. Did Scotty Garner ever miss a header? I can't remember one if he did. We played right into their strengths rather than looking to capitalize on our own.
Having said all that, at least we got a point. Last season we lost home games like today's game. 
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Ernie100 on August 18, 2019, 08:34:10 AM
Hoof ball into the wind first half was never going to work with their tall defenders!  Also isn't the old adage that when you face a team with ten men you keep
you wingers out wide and play across and behind their defence, near the end of the game their defence was looking knackered, but how many crosses did we put into the box- two at most.
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: joshb on August 18, 2019, 09:01:22 AM
2pts dropped

They were well setup
We failed to pass the ball around and stretch them. Just keep lumping it
We didn't do enough
I think we have goalscorers but it's the lack of chances being created which is the immediate problem
Defence had a quiet game but a pity to give away a soft goal
Poor crowd today. Barely 1000 home fans
6pts needed over Bank Holiday but an injury and suspension list that is growing is a concern
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: The Third Twin on August 18, 2019, 10:13:31 AM
2pts dropped

They were well setup
We failed to pass the ball around and stretch them. Just keep lumping it
We didn't do enough
I think we have goalscorers but it's the lack of chances being created which is the immediate problem
Defence had a quiet game but a pity to give away a soft goal
Poor crowd today. Barely 1000 home fans
6pts needed over Bank Holiday but an injury and suspension list that is growing is a concern
with Jay and Thewlis due to serve 3 games each, the wide options are currently Nicky Walker and Jon Wafula. Here's a chance for them to show they're more than just making up the numbers on the bench. In reality though, I think CE may have an early look into the loan market.
Title: Re: where are they now
Post by: Champs next year on August 18, 2019, 10:26:42 AM
Colby Bishop a youngster we got for nothing from Worcester under AM, has scored for Accrington in their last 2 Division One games. He left us & went on to score 33 goals in 50 odd games for Leamington. Just turned 22, Accrington paid Leamington an undisclosed fee for him pre season.
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Bostonshire on August 18, 2019, 02:33:18 PM
2pts dropped

They were well setup
We failed to pass the ball around and stretch them. Just keep lumping it
We didn't do enough
I think we have goalscorers but it's the lack of chances being created which is the immediate problem
Defence had a quiet game but a pity to give away a soft goal
Poor crowd today. Barely 1000 home fans
6pts needed over Bank Holiday but an injury and suspension list that is growing is a concern
with Jay and Thewlis due to serve 3 games each, the wide options are currently Nicky Walker and Jon Wafula. Here's a chance for them to show they're more than just making up the numbers on the bench. In reality though, I think CE may have an early look into the loan market.

Wafula is injured
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: The Third Twin on August 18, 2019, 03:33:24 PM
2pts dropped

They were well setup
We failed to pass the ball around and stretch them. Just keep lumping it
We didn't do enough
I think we have goalscorers but it's the lack of chances being created which is the immediate problem
Defence had a quiet game but a pity to give away a soft goal
Poor crowd today. Barely 1000 home fans
6pts needed over Bank Holiday but an injury and suspension list that is growing is a concern
with Jay and Thewlis due to serve 3 games each, the wide options are currently Nicky Walker and Jon Wafula. Here's a chance for them to show they're more than just making up the numbers on the bench. In reality though, I think CE may have an early look into the loan market.

Wafula is injured
thanks, I saw him limp off at Grantham but realise he was still out. In that case we might have to play very narrow!!!
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: steve m on August 18, 2019, 03:54:46 PM
Concerning that Marriott is banging them in for Kings Lynn.... What's the betting he scores against us.....
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on August 18, 2019, 07:05:04 PM
Wafula??? I'll get my boots....
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Ken Fox on August 18, 2019, 07:35:28 PM
The thing that stood out for me was how hopeless we were at taking corners and free kicks. Most seemed to be hit too high and/or far and never reached a Boston player.

Also we seemed to create more chances after Ashley Jackson came on. There's not a lot to choose between him and Alex Whittle who he replaced after he picked up a knock, but he seemed to just have the edge on Saturday.
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: green hats mate on August 18, 2019, 07:50:47 PM
Playing against 10 men doesn't mean it's going to be a guaranteed win. Sometimes the 10 really dig in and with everyone behind the ball, it can be a frustrating affair. Anyone that has played the game at a decent level knows this. Having said that, we're not firing on all cylinders at the moment. I think we have decent strikers, midfielders and defenders but we're lacking a little cohesion and creativity. Hopefully the enforced changes which will come about next week will help resolve this.

I'm not too fussed though. The league can't be won in August but you can pretty much cock it up if you have three or four defeats. This month is all about finding your feet, keeping it tight at the back and if you kick-start an unbeaten run then even better.

Disagree about the decent strikers TEP if you are referring to Knowles and Tuton .   Strikers should score goals !
TEP
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: The Third Twin on August 18, 2019, 08:05:54 PM
The thing that stood out for me was how hopeless we were at taking corners and free kicks. Most seemed to be hit too high and/or far and never reached a Boston player.
I said to my mate during the first half how almost every set piece from the Spayne road side was overhit or caught in the wind and went straight out of play at or beyond the far post. What did Guiseley do early in the second half? They had a man just beyond the back post for a corner who had an easy header to give them the lead.
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Old boy thin on August 19, 2019, 11:20:14 AM
Concerning that Marriott is banging them in for Kings Lynn.... What's the betting he scores against us.....
He was for us at this stage of last season, and then the big defenders and midfielders got to him  knocked him off the ball, it will be the same again this season.
He is not a northern league player.
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on August 19, 2019, 02:48:52 PM
We have decent strikers - and Adam Marriott is a decent striker. At any level, but even more so at this level however, you need to ensure there's creativity in the midfield / wide areas / target man and therefore service to the strikers. You can't exactly say our strikers are poor and missing lots of chances. Who's supplying them ? Rollins ? he's not exactly firing on all cylinders yet this season yet. We need players who can either get to the by-line and put decent crosses in and /or someone who can unlock defences with killer passes through midfield. I was impressed with Thanoj when he came on at the weekend although not sure he is the answer here. We need an Ashley Hemmings type in there. Maybe Nicky Walker might provide the key - or Green ?

On the subject of Marriott, he's got the perfect strike partner at Lynn (target man) in Gash. The lesson here is that it's not just about the quality of the striker, balance is also vital. Those two compliment each other well - something you can't say about ours so far.

TEP
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Cavalier on August 19, 2019, 04:42:08 PM
The thing that stood out for me was how hopeless we were at taking corners and free kicks. Most seemed to be hit too high and/or far and never reached a Boston player.
I said to my mate during the first half how almost every set piece from the Spayne road side was overhit or caught in the wind and went straight out of play at or beyond the far post. What did Guiseley do early in the second half? They had a man just beyond the back post for a corner who had an easy header to give them the lead.

I've said for a long time our corners are not productive enough.  First priority is obviously to get a head on the first ball, but we should always have a man beyond the goal to pick up or head back the overhits..  Also 1 or 2 players outside the D where defensive headers usually get directed.   
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Old boy thin on August 19, 2019, 06:52:51 PM
We have decent strikers - and Adam Marriott is a decent striker. At any level, but even more so at this level however, you need to ensure there's creativity in the midfield / wide areas / target man and therefore service to the strikers. You can't exactly say our strikers are poor and missing lots of chances. Who's supplying them ? Rollins ? he's not exactly firing on all cylinders yet this season yet. We need players who can either get to the by-line and put decent crosses in and /or someone who can unlock defences with killer passes through midfield. I was impressed with Thanoj when he came on at the weekend although not sure he is the answer here. We need an Ashley Hemmings type in there. Maybe Nicky Walker might provide the key - or Green ?

On the subject of Marriott, he's got the perfect strike partner at Lynn (target man) in Gash. The lesson here is that it's not just about the quality of the striker, balance is also vital. Those two compliment each other well - something you can't say about ours so far.

TEP
Its early days.
Let's not start looking at bringing in players and tinkering about to much, unless it is for emergencies only.
We are still unbeaten in all games since the end of last season.
Other clubs that are full time in this league should find this month easier than us.
We have had some tough teams to play so far with a relatively new squad.
Surely we should be pleased so far in the end results.
Yes other clubs have had a better start and have more points, its early days.
We also have to remember that Gash and Marriott have been together nearly a season now, so should have a decent understanding between them.
But l wager that if someone comes in with a decent offer for them Kings Lynn will sell,sell,sell.
We will be ok don't worry.
Title: Re: Guiseley (H)
Post by: Ken Fox on August 20, 2019, 09:16:45 PM
Finally got round to putting a selection of match photos on my website:

http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/guiseley170819.html (http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/guiseley170819.html)