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The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: artie on August 03, 2019, 10:31:08 AM

Title: Chester.)
Post by: artie on August 03, 2019, 10:31:08 AM
Hello all, Chester supporter here.
I have a compiled a matchday preview for today’s game on my YouTube channel which includes the thoughts of one of your supporters, the head-to-head record, plus much more. If you are interested in watching it then just click on the link below. I visited your ground last season and thought that it is a very nice, old-fashioned stadium. I am making the journey right now but it will be a shame to see York Street go. Hope you all enjoy the match this afternoon:
https://youtu.be/3DHQWBnjMws
Thanks, Rio Doherty.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: artie on August 03, 2019, 10:33:58 AM
I have started a new thread for you Rio as more people may see it rather than it being tagged onto the end of the prediction thread.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: pieman pete on August 03, 2019, 11:55:27 AM
Good idea that Artie, well done mate
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Old boy thin on August 03, 2019, 05:53:35 PM
Sadly didn't get to the game, have spent the day in Hospital with my Daughter family comes before anything with me.
I thought it might be a draw today.
Waiting for one of you fellow forum bloggers to give me the low down please.
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Post by: pieman pete on August 03, 2019, 06:08:11 PM
Sorry to hear that Old boy thinking, of course family has to come first, hope your daughter is feeling better very soon. All the best mate
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Post by: Ernie100 on August 03, 2019, 06:12:30 PM
1-1 a bit of a scrappy game that got feisty at times.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Fishtoft Crew on August 03, 2019, 06:23:59 PM
Nip and tuck for me. Fortunate with our goal which was an og. But we switched off big style a minute later to concede a goal which you would be gutted with in the Boston Saturday League. But two teams equally matched teams and nullified each other and a draw was always on cards from twenty minutes into the second half. Good support from away fans and positive all round from home support. Enjoyed my afternoon all round. Only slight negative the forwards need to stop looking for cheap free kicks and stand up as got a little repetitive. Best positive Crook looked quality and as soon as he got the ball looked to get on the front foot.     
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Old boy thin on August 03, 2019, 08:44:09 PM
Sorry to hear that Old boy thinking, of course family has to come first, hope your daughter is feeling better very soon. All the best mate
Thanks Pete , still awaiting test tomorrow, a cheeky lumber punch for her in the morning, don't envy her on that one.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Rio Doherty Chester FC on August 03, 2019, 09:57:34 PM
Thanks for making a new thread artie. I thought that today’s match was very even and cagey with a draw being a fair result.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Carl Newell on August 03, 2019, 10:34:02 PM
Thought Chester created the better chances first half but second half we dominated possession with little end product. Crook looks a great find. Decent centre half partnership, Middleton as we know is average for this league, lucky to have two decent  young left backs, midfield 3 looked good but would like to see Green in for Abbott when fully fit as we lacked that spark I think he could provide. Rollins was his usual handful and will benefit from a full preseason, thewliss is a danger man but can see why he is at this level instead national league. Wright did his best but fed off scraps. Away from home maybe Clare will come in as the 9.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: brummie exile 1960 on August 04, 2019, 10:51:02 AM
Plenty of food for thought. The back 4 were impressive. Ainge and Shiels look and play the part. Middleton kept his temper when I thought it was only a matter of time before he crippled somebody. Whittle was a good choice for MOM. He loves running at the opposition with the ball which is great to watch.
In midfield, Rollins out wide was the pick for me. Tricky footwork and pacey with it. Abbott, Thanoj and Platt, on the whole, stopped Chester from taking over, but didn't create much. When Green came on, no one gave him the ball and the skipper had to tell him to belt up.
Upfront, Wright and Thewlis had a lot of work to do and did it, but I wonder if they had the wrong studs on their boots, because they fell over a lot.
The pitch was fabulous. A round of applause for the groundstaff. You could play snooker on that, let alone football.
All in all an enjoyable day. I bought this season's away top from the club shop. 'Er indoors tells me sky blue suits me better than purple.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: oxo on August 04, 2019, 01:54:08 PM
Funny you should mention the pitch brummie Craig was critical of it on the BBC Lincs interview which I thought was rather pathetic.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Old boy thin on August 04, 2019, 03:28:58 PM
Funny you should mention the pitch brummie Craig was critical of it on the BBC Lincs interview which I thought was rather pathetic.
Didn't hear the interview what was said about the pitch?
Looked pretty good on Monday night.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on August 04, 2019, 06:20:39 PM
Pitch looks good but isn't so great when you actually walk on it.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Old boy thin on August 04, 2019, 08:14:26 PM
Pitch looks good but isn't so great when you actually walk on it.
A lot of top grass then, and not cut short enough this is often done to give the grass a chance to knit together underneath, thus allowing it to endure wet and cold conditions better.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Rio Doherty Chester FC on August 04, 2019, 11:55:17 PM
Here is my match vlog from yesterday’s match. Feel free to watch if you wish:
https://youtu.be/cTcWa-ONKz8
Hope you enjoyed the game and best of luck to you this season.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Pilgrim86 on August 05, 2019, 08:07:03 AM
Not sure watering the pitch at half-time helped, as the next couple of balls over the top just skipped through out of play.
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Post by: Pete Brooksbank on August 05, 2019, 08:52:26 AM
Dan Milgate is away at the mo - may explain why the pitch wasn't cut properly.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Eddie Killick on August 05, 2019, 08:03:39 PM
Nobody has complained about the ref for a change. Was he any good?
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: The Third Twin on August 05, 2019, 10:00:08 PM
Nobody has complained about the ref for a change. Was he any good?
I always think the best refs don't get noticed, so he must have been decent!
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: York Street Pilgrim on August 06, 2019, 06:53:52 AM
Nobody has complained about the ref for a change. Was he any good?

Best ref we've had in the league all season.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on August 06, 2019, 09:42:34 AM
Nobody has complained about the ref for a change. Was he any good?
I always think the best refs don't get noticed, so he must have been decent!

Chester's supporters and management thought he was dreadful. I honestly don't think the refs in this league can win either way.

Like the players, they're also at this level for a reason - so the dogs abuse they get really does baffle me.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on August 06, 2019, 10:09:45 AM
Non league players, non league refs. Plenty of fans can't get their heads around this - probably spoilt by what they see on TV.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Pilgrim86 on August 06, 2019, 12:40:08 PM
Too whistle-happy, didn't let much flow get into the game. Stopped the game a few times, despite the recipients of the free-kick still comfortably having the ball.

Kept telling Chester players to hurry up, but not one booking for time-wasting.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on August 06, 2019, 12:56:51 PM
Yes. Because he was a non league ref. Just like the league has some poor players, it also has some poor refs. And supporters for that matter too. Refs are an easy target. Everyone loves to blame them when they're losing.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Pilgrim86 on August 06, 2019, 02:22:17 PM
Could have sworn we drew 1-1...

You would expect refs at this level to be at least competent with the laws of the game. Remember they work their way UP to this level. They are paid for their services too, it's not just some random bloke of the street.
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Post by: Pete Brooksbank on August 06, 2019, 02:55:30 PM
True, and I'm not disputing they make some atrocious decisions because they do. But a lot of them are still developing/learning. I know a couple of people who ref - one of them as high as Evostick - and I know they take it very seriously, but will themselves readily agree that it's skill that takes years to master and they make loads of mistakes a game, all of them made in good faith. All they can do is try and learn from it and be better in future. I certainly wouldn't want to do it.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Old boy thin on August 06, 2019, 03:32:34 PM
I really do feel that the refs at this level do not get enough support from the linesman, a ref can't see everything and the boys and girls that run the line seem frightened to put the flag up for fouls and etc.
I also think that decisions for and against you level out over a season.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Pilgrim86 on August 07, 2019, 12:06:00 PM
I really do feel that the refs at this level do not get enough support from the linesman, a ref can't see everything and the boys and girls that run the line seem frightened to put the flag up for fouls and etc.
I also think that decisions for and against you level out over a season.


Referees have the power to tell their assistants what they are there to help with - a lot of them ask them to do line calls and offsides only, others want them to help with fouls. The higher up you go, the more communication between the ref and his assistants (mainly due to the earpieces, where they constantly talk throughout the game) and they make joint decisions.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Champs next year on August 07, 2019, 05:20:58 PM
I really do feel that the refs at this level do not get enough support from the linesman, a ref can't see everything and the boys and girls that run the line seem frightened to put the flag up for fouls and etc.
I also think that decisions for and against you level out over a season.


Referees have the power to tell their assistants what they are there to help with - a lot of them ask them to do line calls and offsides only, others want them to help with fouls. The higher up you go, the more communication between the ref and his assistants (mainly due to the earpieces, where they constantly talk throughout the game) and they make joint decisions.

Yes may well be the case with the lino's interventions. Can only think of a couple of times recently when a lino has intervened on a major decision in the game. In Craig's first half season against Darlington (I think) the ref gave them a pen & the lino got the refs attention & told him it was a dive over our keeper, yellow card for their striker & no pen. Also against Chorley in that 3-4 cup thriller under the lights, the ref missed a horror tackle on  scouse Jambo, lino flagged ref over & ref got red card straight out. So the refs assistants can & should intervene if the ref misses something or just gets it wrong....that is a big part of their job.
Title: Re: Chester.)
Post by: Old boy thin on August 07, 2019, 08:25:06 PM
Totally agree with you, but some just look scared to make the intervention.