Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Dipdodah on July 20, 2019, 02:44:23 PM
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When are the league going to take action against Spennymore. Our match officially to be rearranged yet again. >:( >:( >:(
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Well they are laying a new pitch and drainage so hopefully and end to their problems after this is done.
We may well be in a similar situation this time next season , who knows whats going to happen , so I think we need to show a little understanding.They have done well to raise the money to do this as it isn't cheap , and fundraising takes time as we all know.
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If they spent less on their inflated playing budget there would be money to have done the pitch a couple of seasons ago
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How long does it take to relay a pitch? Boston have on several occasions, including drainage, done it post season. They have always been ready for the start of the season. This will be the 3rd time in three seasons they have done this to us. They know that any team would rather have a trip up north on a Saturday, than a cold Tuesday night with work etc. Once is unfortunate, twice you smell a rat, thrice is downright cheating.
Sorry but they should be fined or docked points for consistent bending of the rules.
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They are not deliberately cancelling Saturday fixtures so they can be played on Tuesday nights. Many people on here point out how much revenue Boston lose when a home game gets moved to a Tuesday and it's the same for Spennymoor. There is no conspiracy . They are just another non-league side trying to do the best they can with what they have got , sometimes they get it right and sometimes they get it wrong. They are not trying to cheat and people should remember our own history of poor behaviour. I know they annoyed us by cancelling a Saturday fixture a couple of seasons ago with bus issues but it's time to let it go and move on.
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They are not deliberately cancelling Saturday fixtures so they can be played on Tuesday nights. Many people on here point out how much revenue Boston lose when a home game gets moved to a Tuesday and it's the same for Spennymoor. There is no conspiracy . They are just another non-league side trying to do the best they can with what they have got , sometimes they get it right and sometimes they get it wrong. They are not trying to cheat and people should remember our own history of poor behaviour. I know they annoyed us by cancelling a Saturday fixture a couple of seasons ago with bus issues but it's time to let it go and move on.
I am sorry but l do not agree, it does give them an advantage because our players have to make the trip and play after they have finished work etc.
What about our fans also who travel away there, some of them won't be able to make the trip, so we also have reduced support.
Why have they not been kicked out of the league for not having their pitch and facilities up to standard by the start of the season.
They have had years to sort this out before now, and yes you can re-lay and drain a pitch in a matter of a 2/3 weeks.
I agree with Dip they have had the funds and wasted it on there playing budget instead.
Shaun Tuton has seen the light and come to us, a proper club.
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For my money, game has to go ahead on the date specified. Its not fair if we have to play an extra away midweek game compared to the rest of the league playing Saturdays, and it'll make the league imbalanced in terms of matches played if the game is postponed. Two options:
(1) Play the game at Boston, and then switch the reverse fixture later in the year,
(2) Play it on a neutral venue, like we did at Harrogate a couple of seasons ago.
It does frustrate me that it's always Spennymoor that seem to have these issues and I do think the league ought to look into it. At the same time football seemed to be played on a lot worse pitches in the past (anyone remember Welling Uniteds mud bath pitch in the Trophy and Kendal Town a few seasons ago? ). Nowadays it seems games sometimes get called off if the pitch isn't like a bowling green. Not quite sure when/why it changed.
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For my money, game has to go ahead on the date specified. Its not fair if we have to play an extra away midweek game compared to the rest of the league playing Saturdays, and it'll make the league imbalanced in terms of matches played if the game is postponed. Two options:
(1) Play the game at Boston, and then switch the reverse fixture later in the year,
(2) Play it on a neutral venue, like we did at Harrogate a couple of seasons ago.
It does frustrate me that it's always Spennymoor that seem to have these issues and I do think the league ought to look into it. At the same time football seemed to be played on a lot worse pitches in the past (anyone remember Welling Uniteds mud bath pitch in the Trophy and Kendal Town a few seasons ago? ). Nowadays it seems games sometimes get called off if the pitch isn't like a bowling green. Not quite sure when/why it changed.
The bowling green pitch, could be down to stricter insurance clauses. Reverse the fixtures sounds the common sense option, but when has common sense been used.
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Many people on here point out how much revenue Boston lose when a home game gets moved to a Tuesday and it's the same for Spennymoor.
That's not the point. The benefit they get is part-time players travelling for hours on a coach on a midweek, potentially after working a shift, rather than a Saturday.
I'm not sure the backers of Spennymoor give a shit about the couple of grand they probably lose out on.
IMO the game goes ahead. It's up to Spennymoor to find a suitable venue.
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I know 2 wrongs don’t make a right but what would happen if our players coach broke down en route to Spennytoomuch. Would the useless FA be so understanding.
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I know 2 wrongs don’t make a right but what would happen if our players coach broke down en route to Spennytoomuch. Would the useless FA be so understanding.
Wouldn't make a h'pennyworth of difference we would still have to play the game on a mid-week night.
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How about this. Spennymoor will offer Craig various midweek dates that suit them. Craig says "NO thank you". In recent seasons there has always been a Saturday in Nov/Dec when we have no game because we've messed up a cup tie. Correct? If, by chance, Spennymoor have a similar gap in their fixtures, Bingo! If not, string them along to the end of the season.
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If postponed, I believe league rules state it has to be rearranged within six weeks. That then means midweek. That's why we'd be better off all round swapping the fixtures or playing at a neutral venue.
Spennymoor claim they asked the league to give them away fixtures only for the opening weeks and they're blaming the league for the mess. I have my doubts. This is the same Spennymoor which announced they wanted to sell cut price tickets for their play off against Chorley last season but that Chorley turned them down. Turned out, league rules prevented clubs from reducing prices in play offs, and Spennymoor were making a scapegoat out of Chorley. Chorley then issued a statement clarifying the rules. Can we believe anything Spennymoor say?
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Spennymoor have confirmed their home game on Tuesday 6th August against Blyth has now been moved to a midweek fixture in September. No decision has yet been made in respect of the Boston match. Spennymoor are awaiting the advice of an agronomist :)
https://spennymoortownfc.co.uk/2019/07/27/blyth-game-gets-new-date/
TEP
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I can't see how 4 days will make a difference
Suspect it'll be quite a last minute thing. We're less than 2 weeks from the date of the game now
They have to get agreement from Boston and the league
Hopefully we have the balls to say switch the fixture as opposed to going there in midweek
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The game will be postponed on the day, two hours before kick off - just before the team bus arrives :)
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Nah, the game will be be set to go ahead but we'll break down on the A1...
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I can't see how 4 days will make a difference
Suspect it'll be quite a last minute thing. We're less than 2 weeks from the date of the game now
They have to get agreement from Boston and the league
Hopefully we have the balls to say switch the fixture as opposed to going there in midweek
But would we want another home fixture in August?
We've already got 3 homes in 15 days, would the club really want 4? If we played Spennymoor at home on 10 August we'd then be playing three home games on three consecutive Saturdays 3rd; 10th and 17th - as well as another home game on Tuesday 13th. Given a number of fans might be away on holiday in August anyway - and then asking fans to pay out for another home game - it might well reduce the attendance figures and, consequently, the income.
If switching the fixture was an option open to BUFC to consider, surely they would have to weigh this up against the disruption of adding another (and long) midweek away fixture? Which would be the lesser of two evils?
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I think the ideal situation is that the game is moved to another venue. Harrogate hosted the fixture before, and they are away at Woking on that day. I don't think they'd send us to Gateshead, as that is further (rules out Blyth too), so maybe Hartlepool is also an option?
York and Darlo are both at home.
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Surely Boston could put in an official complaint. This is the 3rd time in three years.
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According to a supporter on BUFC Supporters page, Mr Newton has said there will be a substantial fine for Spennymoor, no gain for us but at least they are being punished.
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Fine is irrelevant
They're minted
Need to be forfeiting the game or having 3pts deducted each time they pull this stunt
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It won't happen l am afraid, this league doesn't have the balls to do it, or they would have long before this.
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Fine is irrelevant
They're minted
Need to be forfeiting the game or having 3pts deducted each time they pull this stunt
Ok so as U say the FA fine them loose change. Why couldn't the penalty have been to reverse the fixture & make them play at York St on Saturday?
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Fine is irrelevant
They're minted
Need to be forfeiting the game or having 3pts deducted each time they pull this stunt
Ok so as U say the FA fine them loose change. Why couldn't the penalty have been to reverse the fixture & make them play at York St on Saturday?
They haven't been charged, and therefore punished, yet.
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Spennymoor have announced a community open day at their ground on Saturday. It's an insult to us that they can postpone the game but then announce an alternative event on the ground that will presumably boost home club coffers.
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They must be holding it in the car park or toilets.
As the pitch must be out of bounds.
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Spennymoor have announced a community open day at their ground on Saturday. It's an insult to us that they can postpone the game but then announce an alternative event on the ground that will presumably boost home club coffers.
I heard our match was postponed due to an electrical safety issue inside the stadium.
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Spennymoor have announced a community open day at their ground on Saturday. It's an insult to us that they can postpone the game but then announce an alternative event on the ground that will presumably boost home club coffers.
I heard our match was postponed due to an electrical safety issue inside the stadium.
Just looked again on their official site & it's still saying "Reason for postponement v Boston Utd will be announced soon". Thats totally Unnaceptable.. They reported on 7th June that they were completely relaying a new pitch; going right down to the clay & laying over 70 tonnes of sand on it. Also state of art drainage & 20 sprinklers. They also said a "Major overhaul" of the stadium was to commence? I mean come on, starting all that in the 2nd week of June? Was it ever going to be ready for 10th August??
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They are doing work to the spectator facilities, but this is to carry on throughout the season.
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I don't know the full facts here but given what we DO know, Spennymoor aren't alone in the blame for this. The National League - if they had even a shred of credibility left to preserve - should have been monitoring this closely and have been prepared to step in with help and/or alternative arrangements as needed. It's pathetic that this didn't happen. Sure, Spennymoor have been crap but ultimately it was the League's responsibility to intervene and find a solution and they've absolutely failed to do so. Useless. Utterly useless.
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I don't know the full facts here but given what we DO know, Spennymoor aren't alone in the blame for this. The National League - if they had even a shred of credibility left to preserve - should have been monitoring this closely and have been prepared to step in with help and/or alternative arrangements as needed. It's pathetic that this didn't happen. Sure, Spennymoor have been crap but ultimately it was the League's responsibility to intervene and find a solution and they've absolutely failed to do so. Useless. Utterly useless.
A fair assessment .
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https://www.bostonunited.co.uk/news/spennymoor-fixture-officially-postponed-2450972.html
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Spennymoor forecasted to have rain and thundery showers tomorrow. If the game had not been postponed we would probably have had the game called off after our team and fan's coaches arrived at the ground! >:(
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Spennymoor forecasted to have rain and thundery showers tomorrow. If the game had not been postponed we would probably have had the game called off after our team and fan's coaches arrived at the ground! >:(
The more you look into this fiasco the murkier it gets. Agree the weather has been awful last few days....but no other CN fixtures postponed (yet). So ironically the very reason their pitch was being relaid for; has lead to tier first home fixture of the season being postponed??
I agree with all posts condemning the CN for basically turning a blind eye. The fact that a new date for our game there has still yet to be announced tells a tale itself.. They must be doubtful that their York City home fixture (24/8) will be played either? So then they are getting into a backlog of unplayed home games; a situation this club have been in several times in recent years.
I still maintain once they informed the League that the new surface is still unfit for play....All affected fixtures should have been reversed.. we would have had them at home today, & no headache of rearranged fixtures for the CN....plus majorly NO midweek trip all the way up for BUFC players & Fans.
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Nobody more furious than me at the way this lot have got away with murder over the last couple of years however, I cannot agree that the game should have been switched for several reasons, Holiday season so gates are lower and lots of early home games expensive for supporters, if we are pushing for promotion a big gate at end of season. It would mean 6 away games in last 10 games of season. We should leave them in limbo and decide when we want to play it and bollocks to them.
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Nobody more furious than me at the way this lot have got away with murder over the last couple of years however, I cannot agree that the game should have been switched for several reasons, Holiday season so gates are lower and lots of early home games expensive for supporters, if we are pushing for promotion a big gate at end of season. It would mean 6 away games in last 10 games of season. We should leave them in limbo and decide when we want to play it and bollocks to them.
League should have insisted the game go ahead, moving it to a neutral venue if Spennymoor pitch not ready. Ridiculous that the league table isn't even running on level games after just three rounds of matches.
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Appalling that the National League are allowing Spennymoor to remain in the League. How can they let this joke outfit get away with not playing scheduled fixtures time and time again? Why have we not been awarded a token 3-0 win? Ludicrous.
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Spennymoor forecasted to have rain and thundery showers tomorrow. If the game had not been postponed we would probably have had the game called off after our team and fan's coaches arrived at the ground! >:(
The more you look into this fiasco the murkier it gets. Agree the weather has been awful last few days....but no other CN fixtures postponed (yet). So ironically the very reason their pitch was being relaid for; has lead to tier first home fixture of the season being postponed??
I agree with all posts condemning the CN for basically turning a blind eye. The fact that a new date for our game there has still yet to be announced tells a tale itself.. They must be doubtful that their York City home fixture (24/8) will be played either? So then they are getting into a backlog of unplayed home games; a situation this club have been in several times in recent years.
I still maintain once they informed the League that the new surface is still unfit for play....All affected fixtures should have been reversed.. we would have had them at home today, & no headache of rearranged fixtures for the CN....plus majorly NO midweek trip all the way up for BUFC players & Fans.
They'll make sure York goes ahead as it'll be a bumper crowd after a few months off