Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: doc on March 13, 2019, 11:14:08 AM
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6ft 6 clare from bradford till the end of the season.
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Bizarre signing.....we've got a target man....need a goalscorer......
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Well we do seem reliant on Allot. If he gets injured etc we don't seem to have any backup.
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Am somewhat bemused by this signing. Thought we have ample forwards on the books for what's left of this season, thought our greater need would be a couple of decent centre backs and in my opinion a decent keeper. ( looking forward to next season)
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We have a very decent keeper already.
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He played a few pre-season games for Bradford and then the fans never saw him again. Apparently he looked decent and they were surprised when he didn't feature after pre-season.
TEP
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Have to disagree pilgrim 86 . Cannot believe many of the better teams in this league would give Willis a starting place. We have been fortunate over the years to have been blessed with good keepers and he is nowhere near their level.
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It's a new central defensive partnership that's really needed !
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The revolving door keeps on turning! Did anyone exit this week?
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Have to disagree pilgrim 86 . Cannot believe many of the better teams in this league would give Willis a starting place. We have been fortunate over the years to have been blessed with good keepers and he is nowhere near their level.
Could not agree more, other than a couple of notable exceptions we've had some terrible goalkeepers since dropping out of the league, Dan Haystead being the low water mark.
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Bizarre signing.....we've got a target man....need a goalscorer......
I clicked on the club website this morning and it said he was 6'6". I clicked on the Standard's link this evening and he's now 6'5". He must be shrinking. By the time we get to the weekend he may no longer be a target man.
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Have to disagree pilgrim 86 . Cannot believe many of the better teams in this league would give Willis a starting place. We have been fortunate over the years to have been blessed with good keepers and he is nowhere near their level.
I presume you've missed all the games where he has made several fantastic saves.
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I will grant you he has made some good saves but I have seen his errors too. His positioning is questionable at times, he very rarely come to collect a cross and gets beaten numerous times by shots outside the box.
Not in same class as Mal White, Gerry Stewart, Paul Bastock Ravas etc.
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There’s a player called Tshimanga at Oxford, he’s scored 30 goals this season, might be worth a look.
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There’s a player called Tshimanga at Oxford, he’s scored 30 goals this season, might be worth a look.
Surely as a striker himself Craig would have seen enough in both Tshimanga & Thompson last season to give them a go this season? Yes Guiseley wanted a fee for Reece but in light of this shambles since pre season regarding the strikers CE has signed both of those would have been better options that the other numerous failures? Is anyone busily keeping count of attackers signed so far?
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I will grant you he has made some good saves but I have seen his errors too. His positioning is questionable at times, he very rarely come to collect a cross and gets beaten numerous times by shots outside the box.
Not in same class as Mal White, Gerry Stewart, Paul Bastock Ravas etc.
Ravas :laugh:
I'm not saying GW will become a BUFC legend, but he's definitely good enough for us (and is signed for next season).
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I will grant you he has made some good saves but I have seen his errors too. His positioning is questionable at times, he very rarely come to collect a cross and gets beaten numerous times by shots outside the box.
Not in same class as Mal White, Gerry Stewart, Paul Bastock Ravas etc.
Ravas :laugh:
I'm not saying GW will become a BUFC legend, but he's definitely good enough for us (and is signed for next season).
From what I have seen from him so far, the lad has made some cracking important saves,that have undoubtedly kept us in and won us some games.
A very good keeper and still Work in progress IMO.
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Well pilgrim 86 I wish I were as easily pleased as you. I think those that have signed already including Willis shows a lack of ambition as they have in the main struggled this year in a mediocre league at best.
I have said on here before that this has been a very disappointing season and have not felt entertained by hardly any home games this season.
Can only hope things are better next.
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Well pilgrim 86 I wish I were as easily pleased as you. I think those that have signed already including Willis shows a lack of ambition as they have in the main struggled this year in a mediocre league at best.
I have said on here before that this has been a very disappointing season and have not felt entertained by hardly any home games this season.
Can only hope things are better next.
Trust me, there's plenty feels the same way.
Another season of mediocrity awaits with the players committed to us for next season.
BUFC, the cosy mates club where mediocrity is accepted and ambition is a dirty word.
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Willis is an excellent "shot-stopper". He almost forces opposition strikers to make life easy for him. His weakness is crosses and balls into the area. He is not a good judge of "incoming artillery". He also is prone to suicidal runs from his box to intercept through balls from the opposition. That said, apart from the fact he needs to be 4/5 inches taller, I quite like him. Fair appraisal?
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Willis has kept us in games albeit mostly its when we still lose and he keeps the score respectable
He has still conceded quite a few horrendous goals this season
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Has it occurred to anyone that if George Willis was not just an excellent shot stopper, but commanded his area and was brilliant at claiming corners and crosses..... he'd be playing for a bigger club?
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Has it occurred to anyone that if George Willis was not just an excellent shot stopper, but commanded his area and was brilliant at claiming corners and crosses..... he'd be playing for a bigger club?
Straight to the point as usual. Can't see why some people on here can't understand that if a player is already good enough to go higher, chances are that he will do that. If we bring on players and they improve within the club we may get a bit more time with them before they move on.
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I think George has improved so much, his distribution in the last few months in particular has been superb at times.
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And that just about sums things up. There are a number of people on here seem to accept what we have and the level we are at. Unless the club soon starts to show real ambition to get out of this god forsaken league the gates will be averaging nearer 500 and the new ground will get further and further away.
Think the chairman must be pulling his hair out and getting really frustrated.
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And that just about sums things up. There are a number of people on here seem to accept what we have and the level we are at. Unless the club soon starts to show real ambition to get out of this god forsaken league the gates will be averaging nearer 500 and the new ground will get further and further away.
Think the chairman must be pulling his hair out and getting really frustrated.
Ambition like North Ferriby or Salford style ?
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Burton Albion, Morecambe, Accrington style?
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No, ambition Boston Utd style
We should be a steady mid table conference club, but people have just accepted mediocrity since we came out of the FL and as a result we've a whole generation of fans who think this current situation is acceptable. I'm sorry but I no longer buy this 'just be thankful we've got a club' rhetoric, there's a growing number of long time fans growing increasingly disenchanted with the club and its 'second best is good enough' attitude. This season's chaotic recruitment and abysmal home form have been the last straw for loads of people, the gates since Xmas tell their own sorry tale of disenchantment and apathy within the support, and the club need to do something to address it.
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get into the play-offs?
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We should be a steady mid table conference club
We haven't been that since the late 80s/early 90s.
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We should be a steady mid table conference club
We haven't been that since the late 80s/early 90s.
About time we got back there then.
No disrespect Scott but you are of the generation of fans who have only known top end Conference and FL, then this mediocrity.
Historically BUFC are a big club in non league, they are seriously under achieving this last decade.
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Football really does seem to make some people thoroughly miserable.
I see it a bit differently. Andy is right, we *should* be a Conference side. Not disputing that. But I can understand why, given we're trying to move to a new stadium and have bugger all assets to help fund the move, the football side of things hasn't been spectacular.
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We should be a steady mid table conference club
We haven't been that since the late 80s/early 90s.
About time we got back there then.
No disrespect Scott but you are of the generation of fans who have only known top end Conference and FL, then this mediocrity.
Historically BUFC are a big club in non league, they are seriously under achieving this last decade.
Not qute true, my first years were us struggling to get out of the UniBond.
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No, ambition Boston Utd style
We should be a steady mid table conference club, but people have just accepted mediocrity since we came out of the FL and as a result we've a whole generation of fans who think this current situation is acceptable. I'm sorry but I no longer buy this 'just be thankful we've got a club' rhetoric, there's a growing number of long time fans growing increasingly disenchanted with the club and its 'second best is good enough' attitude. This season's chaotic recruitment and abysmal home form have been the last straw for loads of people, the gates since Xmas tell their own sorry tale of disenchantment and apathy within the support, and the club need to do something to address it.
I bet North Ferriby fans would totally disagree with you, they would love to be back were we are and not been wound up in the high court today.
To be honest you should be very grateful that you have a club to support and a stadium to park your backside,yes we are not progressing as many fans would like to see, but for god's sake give it some time and we will be back in the Conference, but if we can't afford to stay in there what's the point of going up to come straight back down again, no doubt that wouldn't please you either.
I have read a number of your post's on here and you never give a solution to our problems,but are always quick to criticize the club and team/management.
We can be thankful l suppose that you haven't yet embarked on a vocal campaign to have Craig replaced at the helm, but l guess there is plenty of time for that to happen.
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Anyway, to lighten the mood, we've got a new defender in :)
TEP
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Some thoughts for going forward
Forge links with more local clubs such as peterborough Lincoln Grimsby Scunthorpe Nottingham forest Notts county leicester etc.
Appoint a full time fundraiser for the club who should be worth their weight in gold if they are good at there job.
Look to use the stadium for more events / concerts?.
We just seem to be stagnating at the moment. I know it's not easy but if we don't try to push forward we will die
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Some thoughts for going forward
Forge links with more local clubs such as peterborough Lincoln Grimsby Scunthorpe Nottingham forest Notts county leicester etc.
Appoint a full time fundraiser for the club who should be worth their weight in gold if they are good at there job.
Look to use the stadium for more events / concerts?.
We just seem to be stagnating at the moment. I know it's not easy but if we don't try to push forward we will die
Not sure the locals will be up for concerts, but the new ground will definitely allow us to stage more fundraising events. That and the revenue from the pitches and the sports hall, along with the massive YS rent no longer being a burden, should mean we'll be a more sustainable, and attractive, club long term. Although we'll presumably no longer be subsidised by the Chestnuts, so I wouldn't expect to see us suddenly flush with cash.
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No, ambition Boston Utd style
We should be a steady mid table conference club, but people have just accepted mediocrity since we came out of the FL and as a result we've a whole generation of fans who think this current situation is acceptable. I'm sorry but I no longer buy this 'just be thankful we've got a club' rhetoric, there's a growing number of long time fans growing increasingly disenchanted with the club and its 'second best is good enough' attitude. This season's chaotic recruitment and abysmal home form have been the last straw for loads of people, the gates since Xmas tell their own sorry tale of disenchantment and apathy within the support, and the club need to do something to address it.
I bet North Ferriby fans would totally disagree with you, they would love to be back were we are and not been wound up in the high court today.
To be honest you should be very grateful that you have a club to support and a stadium to park your backside,yes we are not progressing as many fans would like to see, but for god's sake give it some time and we will be back in the Conference, but if we can't afford to stay in there what's the point of going up to come straight back down again, no doubt that wouldn't please you either.
I have read a number of your post's on here and you never give a solution to our problems,but are always quick to criticize the club and team/management.
We can be thankful l suppose that you haven't yet embarked on a vocal campaign to have Craig replaced at the helm, but l guess there is plenty of time for that to happen.
Its this kind of 'be thankful for what we have attitude' that has permeated the support to the point we accept the dross that's been served up over the last few season........
You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine.......
I just think we as a supporter base deserve much better than what's been served up, especially this season. And I think a significant proportion of the support have gone further than I have and stopped attending, at least I put money into the club week in week out, what would you rather have?
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No, ambition Boston Utd style
We should be a steady mid table conference club, but people have just accepted mediocrity since we came out of the FL and as a result we've a whole generation of fans who think this current situation is acceptable. I'm sorry but I no longer buy this 'just be thankful we've got a club' rhetoric, there's a growing number of long time fans growing increasingly disenchanted with the club and its 'second best is good enough' attitude. This season's chaotic recruitment and abysmal home form have been the last straw for loads of people, the gates since Xmas tell their own sorry tale of disenchantment and apathy within the support, and the club need to do something to address it.
I bet North Ferriby fans would totally disagree with you, they would love to be back were we are and not been wound up in the high court today.
To be honest you should be very grateful that you have a club to support and a stadium to park your backside,yes we are not progressing as many fans would like to see, but for god's sake give it some time and we will be back in the Conference, but if we can't afford to stay in there what's the point of going up to come straight back down again, no doubt that wouldn't please you either.
I have read a number of your post's on here and you never give a solution to our problems,but are always quick to criticize the club and team/management.
We can be thankful l suppose that you haven't yet embarked on a vocal campaign to have Craig replaced at the helm, but l guess there is plenty of time for that to happen.
Its this kind of 'be thankful for what we have attitude' that has permeated the support to the point we accept the dross that's been served up over the last few season........
You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine.......
I just think we as a supporter base deserve much better than what's been served up, especially this season. And I think a significant proportion of the support have gone further than I have and stopped attending, at least I put money into the club week in week out, what would you rather have?
Come on Young Chubby it's only a month ago you wanted Craig E sacked. Maybe your time in the Polish sun while you were morphing into Old Boy Thin drove u nuts!!
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No, ambition Boston Utd style
We should be a steady mid table conference club, but people have just accepted mediocrity since we came out of the FL and as a result we've a whole generation of fans who think this current situation is acceptable. I'm sorry but I no longer buy this 'just be thankful we've got a club' rhetoric, there's a growing number of long time fans growing increasingly disenchanted with the club and its 'second best is good enough' attitude. This season's chaotic recruitment and abysmal home form have been the last straw for loads of people, the gates since Xmas tell their own sorry tale of disenchantment and apathy within the support, and the club need to do something to address it.
I bet North Ferriby fans would totally disagree with you, they would love to be back were we are and not been wound up in the high court today.
To be honest you should be very grateful that you have a club to support and a stadium to park your backside,yes we are not progressing as many fans would like to see, but for god's sake give it some time and we will be back in the Conference, but if we can't afford to stay in there what's the point of going up to come straight back down again, no doubt that wouldn't please you either.
I have read a number of your post's on here and you never give a solution to our problems,but are always quick to criticize the club and team/management.
We can be thankful l suppose that you haven't yet embarked on a vocal campaign to have Craig replaced at the helm, but l guess there is plenty of time for that to happen.
Its this kind of 'be thankful for what we have attitude' that has permeated the support to the point we accept the dross that's been served up over the last few season........
You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine.......
I just think we as a supporter base deserve much better than what's been served up, especially this season. And I think a significant proportion of the support have gone further than I have and stopped attending, at least I put money into the club week in week out, what would you rather have?
Come on Young Chubby it's only a month ago you wanted Craig E sacked. Maybe your time in the Polish sun while you were morphing into Old Boy Thin drove u nuts!!
As l said over and over again, l have no idea who Young Chubby is, he must be hell of a chap as he gets mentioned quite a lot on here.
I do though stand by my previous comment, and we shouldn't be ungrateful for any kind of support after all we could be without a ground or financial backing.
I would hate to think what would happen if the current owners decided to walk away now, l don't see anyone with the financial means that would come forward and take us on.
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Some thoughts for going forward
Forge links with more local clubs such as peterborough Lincoln Grimsby Scunthorpe Nottingham forest Notts county leicester etc.
Appoint a full time fundraiser for the club who should be worth their weight in gold if they are good at there job.
Look to use the stadium for more events / concerts?.
We just seem to be stagnating at the moment. I know it's not easy but if we don't try to push forward we will die
I think we have a outstanding fulltime fundraiser , Craig Singleton .
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Has it occurred to anyone that if George Willis was not just an excellent shot stopper, but commanded his area and was brilliant at claiming corners and crosses..... he'd be playing for a bigger club?
Straight to the point as usual. Can't see why some people on here can't understand that if a player is already good enough to go higher, chances are that he will do that. If we bring on players and they improve within the club we may get a bit more time with them before they move on.
Rough translation:
If you are crap, and you know you are crap, don't worry. Come and play for us, because we are crap as well.
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Has it occurred to anyone that if George Willis was not just an excellent shot stopper, but commanded his area and was brilliant at claiming corners and crosses..... he'd be playing for a bigger club?
Straight to the point a ;)s usual. Can't see why some people on here can't understand that if a player is already good enough to go higher, chances are that he will do that. If we bring on players and they improve within the club we may get a bit more time with them before they move on.
Rough translation:
If you are crap, and you know you are crap, don't worry. Come and play for us, because we are crap as well.
Translated straight from the Double Dutch text book? ;)
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Has it occurred to anyone that if George Willis was not just an excellent shot stopper, but commanded his area and was brilliant at claiming corners and crosses..... he'd be playing for a bigger club?
Straight to the point as usual. Can't see why some people on here can't understand that if a player is already good enough to go higher, chances are that he will do that. If we bring on players and they improve within the club we may get a bit more time with them before they move on.
Rough translation:
If you are crap, and you know you are crap, don't worry. Come and play for us, because we are crap as well.
Willis isn't crap, though. He's not perfect - which is what some people apparently want him to be.
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No, ambition Boston Utd style
We should be a steady mid table conference club, but people have just accepted mediocrity since we came out of the FL and as a result we've a whole generation of fans who think this current situation is acceptable. I'm sorry but I no longer buy this 'just be thankful we've got a club' rhetoric, there's a growing number of long time fans growing increasingly disenchanted with the club and its 'second best is good enough' attitude. This season's chaotic recruitment and abysmal home form have been the last straw for loads of people, the gates since Xmas tell their own sorry tale of disenchantment and apathy within the support, and the club need to do something to address it.
I bet North Ferriby fans would totally disagree with you, they would love to be back were we are and not been wound up in the high court today.
To be honest you should be very grateful that you have a club to support and a stadium to park your backside,yes we are not progressing as many fans would like to see, but for god's sake give it some time and we will be back in the Conference, but if we can't afford to stay in there what's the point of going up to come straight back down again, no doubt that wouldn't please you either.
I have read a number of your post's on here and you never give a solution to our problems,but are always quick to criticize the club and team/management.
We can be thankful l suppose that you haven't yet embarked on a vocal campaign to have Craig replaced at the helm, but l guess there is plenty of time for that to happen.
Its this kind of 'be thankful for what we have attitude' that has permeated the support to the point we accept the dross that's been served up over the last few season........
You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine.......
I just think we as a supporter base deserve much better than what's been served up, especially this season. And I think a significant proportion of the support have gone further than I have and stopped attending, at least I put money into the club week in week out, what would you rather have?
Andy, I will try to express my opinions in a way that will not cause offence. The one thing we can agree upon is the football has been mediocre, but I do feel Pete B makes a good point when he says he can understand why, given we're trying to move into a new stadium and have no assets to help fund the move the football hasn't been spectacular, plus the crippling rent being paid for York Street.
You deride the "Be thankful for what we have attitude" well the fact is without the "Chestnuts" there would be no club,Fact.The fact is until the club is in the new stadium where it will be able to raise extra revenue it must live within it's means so what everyone should be doing is supporting the club through these tough times.
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Yeah, spot on Mel, and sure: the football has been crap this season, and yes, we have missed a massive opportunity this season. Frustrating indeed. But trying to blame people is pointless, no-one can tell me the intentions of the chairman and the manager aren't good. Despite the summer recruitment being a series of mistakes they were only mistakes in hindsight. I didn't see many people on here moaning when we signed those Lincoln lads - we all thought they were statements of intent and signs that the budget was much bigger! It didn't work out like that. That's football. If the club was being run badly then of course the poor season we've had would seem a lot different...
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Your right its not been the best, but and its a big but we could just sneak in to the play offs. I also think Craig is learning and is an honest type and I will keep the faith with him for another year.
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I don't think it was the budget that was responsible for our poor season, it was the failure of the so called star signings that did not deliver and Craig had to start again which is very difficult mid season. We have seen the best of BUFC away from York street this season but lets hope for better today.