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Title: Another late goal!
Post by: kingofnaves on March 02, 2019, 05:01:04 PM
Gutted to see us let a late goal in. Are we lacking fitness?
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Ken Fox on March 02, 2019, 05:29:06 PM
Gutted to see us let a late goal in. Are we lacking fitness?

Yes, Boston need a fitness coach.  :D
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Greengrass on March 02, 2019, 05:29:44 PM
We'll find out on Tuesday ;D
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: kingofnaves on March 02, 2019, 05:37:33 PM
Nice one Ken I've always stated we needed a fitness coach ;)
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Artemis on March 02, 2019, 05:53:52 PM
Need a manager who likes to attack from the start rather than waiting till the 80th minute.

But Craig said in his interview he would have settled for about draw before the match, so he will be happy.

Unfortunately the crowd will continue to fall until we start to win at home and I suspect a drop in season ticket sales for next season.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: kingofnaves on March 02, 2019, 05:56:21 PM
Settled for a draw??? That will really encourage people to turn up. I think Mr Newton needs to have a word.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Artemis on March 02, 2019, 06:09:38 PM
Until we got the penalty we didn't look like scoring.
Getting the penalty was a get out of jail card and Craig should have capitalised on it by bringing the wingers on.

Had he done it then, I do think we would have won the match.

Craig, I feel lacks quality in psychology. We may have equalised but nothing had changed.

When I heard the team he had selected. I feared it would be a rerun of the FC Utd match and did think the missing fans had also heard the team selection and decided to stop at home.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Champs next year on March 02, 2019, 06:50:17 PM
Need a manager who likes to attack from the start rather than waiting till the 80th minute.

But Craig said in his interview he would have settled for about draw before the match, so he will be happy.

Unfortunately the crowd will continue to fall until we start to win at home and I suspect a drop in season ticket sales for next season.

Bottom line is all season home form has given loyal fans little to cheer. For a team right on the periphery of the play offs; come March against another side in play offs: even with their 39 fans we couldn't get a 1,000 gate. This speaks volumes re belief & expectation of home performance from this current crop. A few seasons ago a Greene team would have had 13/1400 + in York St for a similar fixture at this stage of the season.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Mick lawson on March 02, 2019, 07:19:24 PM
In Craig's interview he says he wants to keep in games and was happy with a draw today,he's always saying how good the opposition is and that supporters don't give other teams the respect they deserve,doesn't he want fans to get excited about there team winning ,no I don't think he does or he would give them something to shout about and feel part of something good. I don't understand his negative tactics in home games it's like he doesn't want to score goals.surely having the crowd on your side singing and encouraging the team would be better.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: howmanynames2pick on March 02, 2019, 09:15:42 PM
Is Ben Davies top scorer?
Cant be far off.....
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: oxo on March 02, 2019, 09:22:33 PM
In Craig's interview he says he wants to keep in games and was happy with a draw today,he's always saying how good the opposition is and that supporters don't give other teams the respect they deserve,doesn't he want fans to get excited about there team winning ,no I don't think he does or he would give them something to shout about and feel part of something good. I don't understand his negative tactics in home games it's like he doesn't want to score goals.surely having the crowd on your side singing and encouraging the team would be better.


I have to agree with you Mick, As you know we all groaned when we saw the team sheet with no wingers. Like you I do not understand when he says we set up to hang on and stay in the game for 50/60 minutes, that surely is saying with a little bit of luck if we can do that we may just nick a goal late on. Like you we attend all games home and away and in away games we are much better, Why? we usually play wingers and create chances. Today with no wingers their number 3 could have played the game in his wedding suit. With young Max on the bench the first goal was bound to come down their left as it left the struggling Davies without Max to help him out which in all honesty has been the case in the last few games. Our mid field is as poor as it has ever been and how a certain player in there is ever picked to start a game is beyond my comprehension. Then what happened? off he came to be replaced by Wright and it was a different team and a different game and their number three had to put his overalls on but was unable to stop our WINGER changing the game. Please Craig forget this hanging on with no wingers and get at teams from from the off I am sure we will all get behind you and the team if this happens and we will not give a toss if we lose the odd game when the lads are giving their all to win the game.  UTP.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: oxo on March 02, 2019, 09:24:48 PM
Is Ben Davies top scorer?
Cant be far off.....


Don't know but he has been very poor last few games.  Cracking penalty though.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: holbeach 56 on March 02, 2019, 09:55:58 PM
I am sorry to say but I don't think Craig is learning much at all and is even starting to have a go at fans. A slippery slope I fear. I worry about the players he has tied up for next year as they are mediocre at best this year not much hope for better next. Will be interesting in season ticket sales. A number around me have already said that they are not renewing theirs.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Artemis on March 02, 2019, 10:00:37 PM
If this negatively continues at home I may not renew my season ticket for next season and I'm not alone. Home games this season have been mostly poor entertainment. 

I personally don't think Craig has done himself any favours by getting players signed for next season and beyond, because they perhaps won't put themselves out knowing they don't have to play to earn a contract and he obviously doesn't think we will get promotion because the players aren't good enough.

That won't help the attendance for rest of this season - and the knock on effect for next season.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Bodge on March 02, 2019, 10:03:34 PM
FFS, we should be happy to draw at home, should we!!!

Shows how far we have fallen. Playoff chances have all but gone, seems Craig has settled for mid table mediocrity.

I for one don’t see that as anywhere good enough, really not convinced he’s the man for the job. Going Tuesday but if we fail to get anything there will be a further 3 less each game on the attendance to the end of the season.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Burgh Boy on March 03, 2019, 09:39:47 AM
Wasn't there but, on a small positive note, we are only 6 points off the playoffs. A longshot - but still in with a shout. It all now depends what personnel we will have on our books during this month.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Greengrass on March 03, 2019, 11:09:01 AM
We could have Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi and Harry Kane on the books, if the manager makes them sit on the bench nothing changes!
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: joshb on March 03, 2019, 11:41:45 AM
I do get concerned that CE tries to nullify any opposition strength rather than play his best team if he knows it in order to maximise our strengths

Telford were a threat from set pieces at their place but not really any better than us.
Thatgame was there for the taking at 1 all today
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Pilgrim86 on March 03, 2019, 01:34:48 PM
At home with the players we have, the opposition should be coming here wanting to stay in games for 60 minutes... not the other way around!!
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: holbeach 56 on March 03, 2019, 02:23:44 PM
One of our conversations yesterday was that Craig is a lucky manager because we felt that our chairman must have thought about sacking him a number of times this season and then he goes and gets a result that gives new hope. One of these times his luck will run out. Falling gates as a result of lack of entertainment cannot last. We desperately need to have a positive display to cheer and not wait until we go behind before we put effort in.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: kingofnaves on March 03, 2019, 03:11:58 PM
Playoff! Let's hope not if CE has re signed some of the team already. Imagine this lot playing in the conference? As already stated by others this a  poor league. Seems to me that people are prepared to waste money on Saturday afternoons. Any way UTP looking forward to Tuesday night.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: green hats mate on March 03, 2019, 03:16:29 PM
Need a manager who likes to attack from the start rather than waiting till the 80th minute.

But Craig said in his interview he would have settled for about draw before the match, so he will be happy.

Unfortunately the crowd will continue to fall until we start to win at home and I suspect a drop in season ticket sales for next season.

Bottom line is all season home form has given loyal fans little to cheer. For a team right on the periphery of the play offs; come March against another side in play offs: even with their 39 fans we couldn't get a 1,000 gate. This speaks volumes re belief & expectation of home performance from this current crop. A few seasons ago a Greene team would have had 13/1400 + in York St for a similar fixture at this stage of the season.

Can we claim under the trade discription act Champs?    We were told that if we sacked Greene it would lead to a better team and bigger gates .
I would'nt isten to a small minority of fans again if I was DN .
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Old boy thin on March 03, 2019, 04:25:09 PM
Don't worry everyone, things will turn out ok.
If those players already signed for next season don't perform they can pop through the revolving door and go play in Derbyshire.
Let's not start calling for Craig's head to soon, a change of management now will yield nothing.
Keep those chin chin chins up.
Enjoyed the match yesterday though, in a weird way.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Old boy thin on March 03, 2019, 04:36:01 PM
Just a quick suggestion, what about a fans forum with the club, it's been a while according to Google since we have had one.
Many questions could be put to the board and Craig, this could put to bed many concern's and doubts, but on the other hand could raise even more.
But we will never know until we try.
Perhaps. OXO could be so kind as to raise this through BUSA.
Just a suggestion.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: steve m on March 03, 2019, 05:33:53 PM
When we (me and my granddaughter) saw the team sheet, we groaned. We expect the first instinct is to try to win home games. Talking at half time to other supporters, we all agreed that basically this is a mediocre team with mid table written all over it and to expect an exhilarating performance against superior opposition is unrealistic. The time to judge CE will be after half a dozen games of next season. To be fair we all thought his initial signings were inspired, but we were all disappointed. The only slight niggle is that we have signed players for next season who are of dubious quality (Abbott and Thanoj). Hey ho let's see how we go. After fighting hard for the lead we should have held on, but George was being constantly fouled by the 9 and 10 all afternoon. Looking forward to seeing Stockport on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: noughtyforties on March 04, 2019, 09:04:36 AM
FFS, we should be happy to draw at home, should we!!!

Shows how far we have fallen. Playoff chances have all but gone, seems Craig has settled for mid table mediocrity.

I for one don’t see that as anywhere good enough, really not convinced he’s the man for the job. Going Tuesday but if we fail to get anything there will be a further 3 less each game on the attendance to the end of the season.

Reading Patter this morning I get the distinct impression Saturday was a watershed moment for the manager; up until now people had been tolerant of the constant chopping and changing, but another late goal and more points tossed away seems to see the tide turn. Throw in a poor first half, a small gate and a lack of atmosphere and there seems to be a very definite disconnect between the team/management and the support.

Not sure what effect a change will make to be honest, but the club needs to be aware of the numbers of people talking about not renewing season tickets, its not JCL's talking here, its good long term supporters who've stood by the club through thin and thinner over the last decade. Lose those people and alarm bells need to be ringing, because thats your core support, not your once a season corporate fan and the free ticket freeloaders. 
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Ernie100 on March 04, 2019, 09:11:55 AM
If he puts the same first half team out on Tuesday I will definitely consider making that my last visit of this season, we were screaming out for wingers to come on at
half time, but no, he waited until it was too late for them to have an impact.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: oxo on March 04, 2019, 11:16:30 AM
FFS, we should be happy to draw at home, should we!!!

Shows how far we have fallen. Playoff chances have all but gone, seems Craig has settled for mid table mediocrity.

I for one don’t see that as anywhere good enough, really not convinced he’s the man for the job. Going Tuesday but if we fail to get anything there will be a further 3 less each game on the attendance to the end of the season.

Reading Patter this morning I get the distinct impression Saturday was a watershed moment for the manager; up until now people had been tolerant of the constant chopping and changing, but another late goal and more points tossed away seems to see the tide turn. Throw in a poor first half, a small gate and a lack of atmosphere and there seems to be a very definite disconnect between the team/management and the support.

Not sure what effect a change will make to be honest, but the club needs to be aware of the numbers of people talking about not renewing season tickets, its not JCL's talking here, its good long term supporters who've stood by the club through thin and thinner over the last decade. Lose those people and alarm bells need to be ringing, because thats your core support, not your once a season corporate fan and the free ticket freeloaders.


I have to agree. The club in general need to get a grip in many more areas as well as on the field. The match day experience is often referred to in many sports and it has definately plummeted at BUFC, walking into the ground on Saturday and stood waiting for the kick off was like being in a dentists waiting room. Nothing to see or do until the match starts except a few children holding flags that are several years old and then having to hand them back to the CEO for the next game (pathetic) surely a little momento like that should be given to them to keep and encourage them for the future. As many people know I spend my Sundays supporting my other love rugby league. I support a former mining village team who attract over 2.500 and on entering the stadium I go to the fanzone where some 3 to 4 hundred enjoy a drink and general refreshments while kids have their faces painted in team colours (home and away) Kids games on the pitch and a small fireworks display prior to kick off. This not to sing the praises of my rugby club but to make the point that much more needs to be done both on and off the field or we will indeed lose many of our core support as has been suggested.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Pilgrim86 on March 04, 2019, 12:40:07 PM
George Willis (deservedly) in the National League North team of the weekend.

http://www.thenationalleague.org.uk/revealed-national-league-north-team-of-the-weekend-55696
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on March 04, 2019, 01:14:26 PM
FFS, we should be happy to draw at home, should we!!!

Shows how far we have fallen. Playoff chances have all but gone, seems Craig has settled for mid table mediocrity.

I for one don’t see that as anywhere good enough, really not convinced he’s the man for the job. Going Tuesday but if we fail to get anything there will be a further 3 less each game on the attendance to the end of the season.

Reading Patter this morning I get the distinct impression Saturday was a watershed moment for the manager; up until now people had been tolerant of the constant chopping and changing, but another late goal and more points tossed away seems to see the tide turn. Throw in a poor first half, a small gate and a lack of atmosphere and there seems to be a very definite disconnect between the team/management and the support.

Not sure what effect a change will make to be honest, but the club needs to be aware of the numbers of people talking about not renewing season tickets, its not JCL's talking here, its good long term supporters who've stood by the club through thin and thinner over the last decade. Lose those people and alarm bells need to be ringing, because thats your core support, not your once a season corporate fan and the free ticket freeloaders.


I have to agree. The club in general need to get a grip in many more areas as well as on the field. The match day experience is often referred to in many sports and it has definately plummeted at BUFC, walking into the ground on Saturday and stood waiting for the kick off was like being in a dentists waiting room. Nothing to see or do until the match starts except a few children holding flags that are several years old and then having to hand them back to the CEO for the next game (pathetic) surely a little momento like that should be given to them to keep and encourage them for the future. As many people know I spend my Sundays supporting my other love rugby league. I support a former mining village team who attract over 2.500 and on entering the stadium I go to the fanzone where some 3 to 4 hundred enjoy a drink and general refreshments while kids have their faces painted in team colours (home and away) Kids games on the pitch and a small fireworks display prior to kick off. This not to sing the praises of my rugby club but to make the point that much more needs to be done both on and off the field or we will indeed lose many of our core support as has been suggested.

Like I've said, this has been the most disappointing seasons I can remember and I think everyone feels pretty down about it. Due to circumstances outside of my control I haven't made any games this side of Christmas but I'll be off to Southport at the weekend although it's more out of a sense of duty than any excitement about still being in the play-off hunt. That said I do think results are a little better now than they were, and the more settled side is surely a big part of it, but even if we were to sneak into the playoffs we'd need some extraordinary luck to do any damage. The brutal fact is we're not good enough.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: kingofnaves on March 04, 2019, 05:38:10 PM
Wow that's a big crowd for a village OXO they mustbe doing something right. Is the team any good and how much is admission. Thanks
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Post by: oxo on March 04, 2019, 06:27:10 PM
Wow that's a big crowd for a village OXO they mustbe doing something right. Is the team any good and how much is admission. Thanks


It is Featherstone Rovers and we play in the Championship (2nd tier) The admission price is 18 quid adults 6 quid kids However there are over 1000 season ticket holders. We have a potentialy very good team but it is early in the season only having played 5 games. For those who remember the old Scarborough FC ground when they went bust a bunch of Rovers fans got together and brought the main stand to Featherstone and re built it at our ground, zero cost all done by volunteers. Have a look at the Featherstone Rovers web site the ground (owned by the club) is one of the best in Rugby League. Shows what can be done if the spirit is there and people feel a part of the club. Lessons to be learned.
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: kingofnaves on March 04, 2019, 07:07:09 PM
OXO brilliant teamwork. Let's see if we could get the Jakemans Stand moved to Wyberton. Should get the ground finished quicker.
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Post by: Ernie100 on March 04, 2019, 07:59:14 PM
OXO brilliant teamwork. Let's see if we could get the Jakemans Stand moved to Wyberton. Should get the ground finished quicker.

That's not a bad idea considering it's sectional and mostly paid for by the people of Boston through the Lottery run by the club.
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Post by: kingofnaves on March 04, 2019, 10:29:16 PM
Wonder how much it would cost to move? Probably need a crane and few lorries!
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Post by: green hats mate on March 05, 2019, 10:54:41 AM
Wonder how much it would cost to move? Probably need a crane and few lorries!

I would think mieles  and his grandad would be able to do the job .
Title: Re: Another late goal!
Post by: howmanynames2pick on March 05, 2019, 02:52:29 PM
are there asbestos issues?
there is getting less to move.. boards from the top of the york st stand, a gaping hole in the main end at the york st end.
fully understand the powers that be not throwing money at it tho'