Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Cavalier on February 13, 2019, 10:31:43 AM
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Great to see that Craig and The Chestnuts are already planning for next season with the signing of Jay Rollins and George Willis until the summer of 2020. Well done!
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Good to see and hopefully more to follow. Continuity with a solid core of players with a decent amount of time playing together really is key to success at this level - Den, for all his faults, proved that.
The only way this can go wrong is if we accidentally get promoted via the playoffs.... ;D
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Great news, find it so frustrating when we lose our better players each season. I think based on this season we might break the player of the year curse, with the newly crowned player not leaving for next season, unless of course a sensible offer comes in.
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Good to see and hopefully more to follow. Continuity with a solid core of players with a decent amount of time playing together really is key to success at this level - Den, for all his faults, proved that.
The only way this can go wrong is if we accidentally get promoted via the playoffs.... ;D
We'd probably have to win three consecutive away games - something like Telford, then Spennymoor, then Stockport....no problem! Scraping into the playoffs would be the easy bit.
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Yes it is potentially having to beat the 4th, 3rd and then 2nd placed teams all away from home is probably the tricky bit...
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Good to see and hopefully more to follow. Continuity with a solid core of players with a decent amount of time playing together really is key to success at this level - Den, for all his faults, proved that.
The only way this can go wrong is if we accidentally get promoted via the playoffs.... ;D
We'd probably have to win three consecutive away games - something like Telford, then Spennymoor, then Stockport....no problem! Scraping into the playoffs would be the easy bit.
Yes they potentially would be v tough games. However over the season so far our home form has been the weakness, against the better sides we have been so much better away. We beat Stockport away, drew at Chorley, beat Kiddi & lost 2 v tight games v Spenny & Telford 1-0, we could easily have got something out of both those games. Maybe in a play off situation those teams would be wary of our away form & we would be up for it?
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More good news: Abbott and Thanoj signed up for next season now too.
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I know it looks like I disagree with everything you post ;) But both these players have disappointed me this season. But it is good that we are planning for next season
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I know it looks like I disagree with everything you post ;) But both these players have disappointed me this season. But it is good that we are planning for next season
That's fine, disagree away! I know other fans who like both, and some who think Thanoj is decent but not Abbott and vice versa. For what it's worth, I don't think either of them have been helped by the constant turnover of players.
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I know it looks like I disagree with everything you post ;) But both these players have disappointed me this season. But it is good that we are planning for next season
That's fine, disagree away! I know other fans who like both, and some who think Thanoj is decent but not Abbott and vice versa. For what it's worth, I don't think either of them have been helped by the constant turnover of players.
it is good that the spine / nucleus of the team is being kept together. it's taken until now to get a more settled side, which IMO has helped our form and results greatly. We've been forced into wholesale changes for the last few seasons and it will be a good starting point to have at least a few players that are used to playing with each other before the turn of the year!
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Thanoj as been in good form since he came. Abbot not so much at the moment but as we know what he can do then im pleased there on board. Would also like to see Walker and allott added
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Hope Davies resigns.
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Nicky Wroe and Ashley Jackson for me.
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With you OBT, i would like to see Ashley signed up on a long term contract, improved immensely through the season, is only going to get better.
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With you OBT, i would like to see Ashley signed up on a long term contract, improved immensely through the season, is only going to get better.
Perhaps will make the club a bit of transfer money, he is a real find and talent.
The lad has a fantastic attitude.
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Hope Davies resigns.
I hope you mean re-signs! :D
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Hope Davies resigns.
re signs or resigns?
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I meant "signs again" of course.
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What would you do if you were BUFC's manager?
Would you wait until this season is over before trying to tie up the players you would like to keep and hope you can find a load of "gems" who may be available at that time, bearing in mind we will then know which league we will be playing in next season?
Keep your options open until well into the close season and see if you can get some "ready made" and "better" players to join you before falling back on the ones you have, if they still haven't then been signed by others?
Sign a fair number of your present squad who you trust in and believe can further improve, whilst going full out for the players you have been following the moment they could become available?
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I think we know what league we will be playing in next season
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I think we know what league we will be playing in next season
So you should be able to give your thoughts then!
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I think we will be playing in the league that we currently are. We haven't been anywhere near consistent enough this season
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A bird in the hand--------,The devil you know-------.
What would you do if you were BUFC's manager?
Would you wait until this season is over before trying to tie up the players you would like to keep and hope you can find a load of "gems" who may be available at that time, bearing in mind we will then know which league we will be playing in next season?
Keep your options open until well into the close season and see if you can get some "ready made" and "better" players to join you before falling back on the ones you have, if they still haven't then been signed by others?
Sign a fair number of your present squad who you trust in and believe can further improve, whilst going full out for the players you have been following the moment they could become available?
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I think we will be playing in the league that we currently are. We haven't been anywhere near consistent enough this season
Answered like a politician with an answer to your own question whilst avoiding the ones asked. ???
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I think we will be playing in the league that we currently are. We haven't been anywhere near consistent enough this season
Based on our present league position a safe prediction to make , we are about 16 points clear of religation and 16 points short of the top 3 teams . A big gap has appeared between us and the top three which highlights Graigs team building will have to continue .
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We are a bang average team in a mostly dreadful division. As I've said before, this has been one of the most disappointing seasons I can ever remember and a massive, massive missed opportunity. Even if we make the playoffs, we'd be extraordinarily lucky to make a dent in them. But what is football without hope eh?
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100% agree Pete B
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About time we changed our kit. Not bringing much luck is it.
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We are a bang average team in a mostly dreadful division. As I've said before, this has been one of the most disappointing seasons I can ever remember and a massive, massive missed opportunity. Even if we make the playoffs, we'd be extraordinarily lucky to make a dent in them. But what is football without hope eh?
Expectations were high for this season & based on the way Craig turned things around last season hopes appeared justified. There were some excellent performances in the last dozen games thrashing the 2 best teams in the league & with major reinforcements promised 4 this campaign we had expectations of a top 4/5 finish at worst.
Totally agree with the above it's been disappointing at best. The most concerning thing is stil Craig's inability to assemble a settled side!! Even after Chester defeat he's talking about needing new faces & stating he's unhappy with the application & attitude of certain players? Honestly it's just gone too far now!
The concern after this record number of signings & exits is that he's never going to bring in the personnel to get us promoted.. Can his judgement on players be trusted next pre-season, after this past 6/7 months of weekly recruitment you have to wonder?
I like CE he is committed, hard working & honest. He has had success at a lower level. I really hope I'm wrong & like Pete would love us to gatecrash the playoffs but at present it's definitely hope & not expectation.
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We are a bang average team in a mostly dreadful division. As I've said before, this has been one of the most disappointing seasons I can ever remember and a massive, massive missed opportunity. Even if we make the playoffs, we'd be extraordinarily lucky to make a dent in them. But what is football without hope eh?
Expectations were high for this season & based on the way Craig turned things around last season hopes appeared justified. There were some excellent performances in the last dozen games thrashing the 2 best teams in the league & with major reinforcements promised 4 this campaign we had expectations of a top 4/5 finish at worst.
Totally agree with the above it's been disappointing at best. The most concerning thing is stil Craig's inability to assemble a settled side!! Even after Chester defeat he's talking about needing new faces & stating he's unhappy with the application & attitude of certain players? Honestly it's just gone too far now!
The concern after this record number of signings & exits is that he's never going to bring in the personnel to get us promoted.. Can his judgement on players be trusted next pre-season, after this past 6/7 months of weekly recruitment you have to wonder?
I like CE he is committed, hard working & honest. He has had success at a lower level. I really hope I'm wrong & like Pete would love us to gatecrash the playoffs but at present it's definitely hope & not expectation.
It was the win at Salford last season that did it for me. I thought we were absolutely brilliant that day and the way Elliott tactically outwitted the managers of the season convinced me we had a special gaffer on board. When the summer signings were announced, I was convinced we'd have a shot at the title. It was the same last year with Murray - I thought once he had his side in, and with his league experience, we'd be up there (although I always knew Salford would win the title). I should know better than to feel optimistic.
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We are a bang average team in a mostly dreadful division. As I've said before, this has been one of the most disappointing seasons I can ever remember and a massive, massive missed opportunity. Even if we make the playoffs, we'd be extraordinarily lucky to make a dent in them. But what is football without hope eh?
Expectations were high for this season & based on the way Craig turned things around last season hopes appeared justified. There were some excellent performances in the last dozen games thrashing the 2 best teams in the league & with major reinforcements promised 4 this campaign we had expectations of a top 4/5 finish at worst.
Totally agree with the above it's been disappointing at best. The most concerning thing is stil Craig's inability to assemble a settled side!! Even after Chester defeat he's talking about needing new faces & stating he's unhappy with the application & attitude of certain players? Honestly it's just gone too far now!
The concern after this record number of signings & exits is that he's never going to bring in the personnel to get us promoted.. Can his judgement on players be trusted next pre-season, after this past 6/7 months of weekly recruitment you have to wonder?
I like CE he is committed, hard working & honest. He has had success at a lower level. I really hope I'm wrong & like Pete would love us to gatecrash the playoffs but at present it's definitely hope & not expectation.
Did we not determine recently that the number of signings and exits was actually lower in comparison to recent seasons? Whilst I think those stats were based on full seasons vs midway through the current campaign, the revolving door has slowed down considerably recently.
And if we can all be gobsmacked by the poor returns from Arnold, Margetts, Marriott etc, can we not afford Craig such slack too? I see it as a good thing that he doesn't put up with shirkers. I'd rather see 100 faces come and go to find the 20 that are right for us, rather than just settle for the first 20.
This season has been hugely disappointing given the momentum we carried through from the end of the last campaign and it feels to me, even though we're within touching distance of the playoffs, that we're now gearing up for 2019/2020. Failure to mount a serious promotion challenge next season would be the end of the road for CE.
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I was so excited about this season, I bought a season ticket. I also placed a bet on them finishing in the top three. Very disappointing is an understatement. But I like CE and I think he will get it sorted. The good news is, I should be able to get 33/1 about them to win the league next season. ;)
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I'm seriously considering not renewing my Season Ticket on the basis we've signed up players who've consistently proved their inconsistency this season.
Like everyone else I'm hugely disappointed by the way the season has gone, and especially by some of the worst performances at home I've seen for many seasons.
I want to see the club make a statement of intent before committing my hard earned money, and signing up players who've let us down time and time again is an admission we're happy to wallow in upper mid table.
Sorry but that's no longer good enough, I'm sick of this league, sick of seeing the same old players with the same old teams every season........
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I agree to an extent but until the Chester game we were looking a little more solid and settled, and I was thinking keeping a bit of a "core" together and signing them up early was a positive move. But then Chester happened.
I completely agree though - I'm thoroughly bored of Conf North now. With no cup runs of any note in the last decade it really does seem like we're forever playing the same old teams. We're long overdue something to get excited about.
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Sitting 2 points off the playoffs realistic odds of promotion at the moment are probably something like 10/1. Good that we are still in with an chance and a couple of wins in the next two games and the end of the season could become exiting if we make the playoffs.
We've only signed 4 players so far.
Rollins is a player any team at this level would happily take so a really good one to sign up. Also he is probably one of the only players in the squad that would be good enough for the league above if we did get promoted. We'd really be kicking ourselves if we didn't sign him up and he went to a rival in the summer.
The other 3 are solid players at this level and have been in the team all season. So on that basis keeping them has to be seen as a good thing.
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all players shud go and wotch boston town 2 morrow :) :)
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Agreed! Town are on a good run at the moment and deserve the support. Anyway you might get to see miele's dad's tractor.
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A depressing state of affairs when clubs, albeit some bankrolled have overtaken us
Solihull
Harrogate
Halifax
Salford
Fylde
Chorley
I'm sure there's others too if you compared southern sides too
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Agreed! Town are on a good run at the moment and deserve the support. Anyway you might get to see miele's dad's tractor.
or jcb
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Agreed! Town are on a good run at the moment and deserve the support. Anyway you might get to see miele's dad's tractor.
or jcb
Pleased with that response miele . I told ernie 100 the other week you knew how to spell JCB correctly . :) :)
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Let's face the facts this team isn't good enough for promotion and too good for relegation. About time CE takes a gamble on the youth team. Probably giving them half a game. Seems pointless having a youth set up and not using it.
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Some of the crap hurled at players from the stands can ruin young lads.... do you really want to put them through that?
Throwing decent lads into a poor team will not help them imho
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I'm seriously considering not renewing my Season Ticket on the basis we've signed up players who've consistently proved their inconsistency this season.
Like everyone else I'm hugely disappointed by the way the season has gone, and especially by some of the worst performances at home I've seen for many seasons.
I want to see the club make a statement of intent before committing my hard earned money, and signing up players who've let us down time and time again is an admission we're happy to wallow in upper mid table.
Sorry but that's no longer good enough, I'm sick of this league, sick of seeing the same old players with the same old teams every season........
From comments I hear from others we badly need a real grandstand finish or season ticket sales will dip next season .
What is" a statement of intent " .
To put it into perspective Andy there are probably 8 teams apart from us who think they have a right to a play-off place .
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Some of the crap hurled at players from the stands can ruin young lads.... do you really want to put them through that?
Throwing decent lads into a poor team will not help them imho
Correct , some of the crap hurled from the stands would ruin some experienced players .
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There's now a 5 point gap opened up between us & Alty in the 7th play off place.
When you look at our remaining fixtures if we are going 2 get in the mix it will require a finish similar 2 last seasons exploits. We'll have a realistic idea after the next 5 games...They all look tough:
Telford (h)
Stockport (h)
Southport (a)
Chorley (h)
York (a)
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Need at least 7 points from those 5 games to keep us in with a slim chance of the playoffs. 2 wins, a draw and 2 defeats, can’t see it myself, hope I’m wrong.
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Let's face the facts this team isn't good enough for promotion and too good for relegation. About time CE takes a gamble on the youth team. Probably giving them half a game. Seems pointless having a youth set up and not using it.
The youth team are at a far lower level than they were a couple of years ago and even them lads rarely got a chance
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Yes not ideal results yesterday but the quality is so poor we shouldn't have to rely on others dropping points yo come 7th, if we can't come 7th in this division we don't deserve to have a chance to go up
Imagine our team in the conference next season if we did fluke our way up......
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Walker signs on for next season. Excellent news.
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Good to get him tied down for next season, just would like to see Ash Jackson given another contract now and Nicky Wroe.
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Nicky Wrote is contracted for next season
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Don't want to appear negative but these guys have not pulled up trees this year and not many are that young with scope to improve greatly so not getting excited yet. Appreciate long way to go but don't want another season like this at home
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Nicky Wrote is contracted for next season
Excellent great news
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Don't want to appear negative but these guys have not pulled up trees this year and not many are that young with scope to improve greatly so not getting excited yet. Appreciate long way to go but don't want another season like this at home
Spot on one or two I would not get excited about.
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I think the players we have signed from this seasons squad have to be supplemented with about 10/12 players of real quality and who are good experienced players at the level we are currently playing at for us to be successful next season.
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Craig Elliott has pledged there will be no more ‘gambles’ as he sets his sights on building a promotion-winning Boston United team.
Read more at: https://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/sport/football/boston-united/no-more-gambles-elliott-determined-to-bring-in-next-level-players-to-boston-united-1-8875582
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Can someone please remind me or confirm? So far for 19/20: Willis, Rollins, Wroe, Thanoj, Abbott, Walker (6). have I go that right?
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Can someone please remind me or confirm? So far for 19/20: Willis, Rollins, Wroe, Thanoj, Abbott, Walker (6). have I go that right?
Correct.
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Craig Elliott has pledged there will be no more ‘gambles’ as he sets his sights on building a promotion-winning Boston United team.
Read more at: https://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/sport/football/boston-united/no-more-gambles-elliott-determined-to-bring-in-next-level-players-to-boston-united-1-8875582
Strange article? He's basically saying most of his signings 4 this season weren't good enough! Some of the pre season signings were from a higher level, but they couldn't get away quick enough! The lower league signings haven't cut it. It just does not resonate any confidence that next seasons crop will be any better. Personally I hope it has been a big learning curve for Craig. I like his honesty a lot. Good luck for next season.
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Craig Elliott has pledged there will be no more ‘gambles’ as he sets his sights on building a promotion-winning Boston United team.
Read more at: https://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/sport/football/boston-united/no-more-gambles-elliott-determined-to-bring-in-next-level-players-to-boston-united-1-8875582
Strange article? He's basically saying most of his signings 4 this season weren't good enough! Some of the pre season signings were from a higher level, but they couldn't get away quick enough! The lower league signings haven't cut it. It just does not resonate any confidence that next seasons crop will be any better. Personally I hope it has been a big learning curve for Craig. I like his honesty a lot. Good luck for next season.
My thoughts exactly Champs .
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Craig Elliott has pledged there will be no more ‘gambles’ as he sets his sights on building a promotion-winning Boston United team.
Read more at: https://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/sport/football/boston-united/no-more-gambles-elliott-determined-to-bring-in-next-level-players-to-boston-united-1-8875582
Strange article? He's basically saying most of his signings 4 this season weren't good enough! Some of the pre season signings were from a higher level, but they couldn't get away quick enough! The lower league signings haven't cut it. It just does not resonate any confidence that next seasons crop will be any better. Personally I hope it has been a big learning curve for Craig. I like his honesty a lot. Good luck for next season.
My thoughts exactly Champs .
We need midfielders that score goals, so Craig has signed up for next season midfielders that don't score goals.
It's very worrying that he has done that, Abbott and Thanoj are not good enough and today they were so poor and didn't have a clue, headless chickens.
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Craig Elliott has pledged there will be no more ‘gambles’ as he sets his sights on building a promotion-winning Boston United team.
Read more at: https://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/sport/football/boston-united/no-more-gambles-elliott-determined-to-bring-in-next-level-players-to-boston-united-1-8875582
Strange article? He's basically saying most of his signings 4 this season weren't good enough! Some of the pre season signings were from a higher level, but they couldn't get away quick enough! The lower league signings haven't cut it. It just does not resonate any confidence that next seasons crop will be any better. Personally I hope it has been a big learning curve for Craig. I like his honesty a lot. Good luck for next season.
My thoughts exactly Champs .
We need midfielders that score goals, so Craig has signed up for next season midfielders that don't score goals.
It's very worrying that he has done that, Abbott and Thanoj are not good enough and today they were so poor and didn't have a clue, headless chickens.
Didn't notice Thanoj was on the field until he was subbed.
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I was so positive at the end of last season, someone said if the season had started after Xmas we would have finished 3rd, we beat Salford away, hammered Harrogate at home.
It seems now that we had 4 quality players carrying the rest of the team, centre back who went to Stockport, Hemmings, Thompson and Tishimanga (sorry if it’s spelt incorrectly). Once that quality was gone we have gone backwards a long way most likely finishing in the bottom half.
I think Craig will be a lucky guy if David Newton keeps him as he has had a decent budget but we have nothing to show for it, what players have come in other than loan ones and has been an improvement on last years team, I can’t think of one.
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I was so positive at the end of last season, someone said if the season had started after Xmas we would have finished 3rd, we beat Salford away, hammered Harrogate at home.
It seems now that we had 4 quality players carrying the rest of the team, centre back who went to Stockport, Hemmings, Thompson and Tishimanga (sorry if it’s spelt incorrectly). Once that quality was gone we have gone backwards a long way most likely finishing in the bottom half.
I think Craig will be a lucky guy if David Newton keeps him as he has had a decent budget but we have nothing to show for it, what players have come in other than loan ones and has been an improvement on last years team, I can’t think of one.
So do we honestly think the chairman will dispatch him at some point at the start of next season if things don't go well.
I don't think Craig's position is under immediate threat, but it may have crossed David's mind at some point, it must be a dilemma though.
Because do you dispatch him at the end of the season and bring someone new in with a new budget in place,or wait and see.
I think Craig will still be in place for next season because he has been allowed to make signings for next season already.
Be interesting to see the body language between DN & CE on Wednesday night.
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Ashley Jackson signs on now too.
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Ashley Jackson signs on now too.
Awesome news.
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Pleased to hear Ash Jackson has been kept. I thought he had a decent season, considering the defence changed from week to week.