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Title: Time for a change
Post by: Bodge on January 05, 2019, 03:36:29 PM
Enough said, shocking !!
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: steve m on January 05, 2019, 03:53:15 PM
For pity's sake get rid of Thanoj and Abbott. Complete waste of space.
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: kingofnaves on January 05, 2019, 04:06:24 PM
I would personally like the ex Boston Bypass Party for failing to get one. Luckily I was stuck in traffic and was too late for my lift. Atleast Im 15 quid up!
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Winging It on January 05, 2019, 04:16:10 PM
Shocking attendance figures, less than 900 home fans !! (964, 68 away fans )  Where has the extra 300 gone ?

Does look like our fanbase as so spit these days that several are choosing to stay away.  Need something new to happen now off the pitch, and for all the fans to then group together and not gripe and groan about each other.  Or on other words, we need a miracle !

A disillusioned Pilgrim.
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Old boy thin on January 05, 2019, 05:50:05 PM
Not a time to change the manager, that won't help and at the end of the day the players in the first half let him and us down.
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Artemis on January 05, 2019, 05:55:15 PM
Not a time to change the manager, that won't help and at the end of the day the players in the first half let him and us down.

And apart from Willis - didn't Elliott sign them all?
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: green hats mate on January 05, 2019, 05:57:54 PM
For pity's sake get rid of Thanoj and Abbott. Complete waste of space.

Along with about 38 others we have had this season .
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: green hats mate on January 05, 2019, 06:05:30 PM
Shocking attendance figures, less than 900 home fans !! (964, 68 away fans )  Where has the extra 300 gone ?

Does look like our fanbase as so spit these days that several are choosing to stay away.  Need something new to happen now off the pitch, and for all the fans to then group together and not gripe and groan about each other.  Or on other words, we need a miracle !

A disillusioned Pilgrim.

I have witnessed far bigger splits in the fan base over the last 70 years , in fact I can recall a bigger one in the last 3 years .
It is not the "split" that is affecting the fall in gates it is the appalling standard of football , gates will continue to fall if things don't improve .   
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: kingofnaves on January 05, 2019, 06:07:47 PM
Agree GHM. Only been a few times and it was a load of shite. Ive been told its got worse!
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Bodge on January 05, 2019, 06:21:05 PM
Please correct me if I’m wrong but is that now 7 points from the last 10 league games. Won 1 drawn 4 and lost 5.
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: The Third Twin on January 05, 2019, 07:07:27 PM
Please correct me if I’m wrong but is that now 7 points from the last 10 league games. Won 1 drawn 4 and lost 5.
you're correct, if you take the last ten league games for each side, we would be 20th, with only Ashton W2 L8 Pts 6 and Nuneaton W1 D2 L7 Pts 5 beneath us.
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: green hats mate on January 05, 2019, 07:09:50 PM
Please correct me if I’m wrong but is that now 7 points from the last 10 league games. Won 1 drawn 4 and lost 5.

Correct Bodge ,  continue this form for the remainder of the season and a more than evens chance we get relegated .
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Old boy thin on January 05, 2019, 09:52:36 PM
Just a quick question,
How many of our strikers and who that have been used this season and moved on are still held on registration or are on dual registration with other clubs?
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Winging It on January 05, 2019, 10:56:30 PM
Not a time to change the manager, that won't help and at the end of the day the players in the first half let him and us down.
Didn't the fans state under the Greene era when countless players had been signed and that the manger was deemed a 'tinkerman' that the buck stops with him regarding form ? Should be no different here considering how many personnel we have gone through to date. He picks the teams, chooses the formations, re-addresses tactics mid match etc etc.  If the slump continues, where do we draw the line ?
I've been loyal and given all the managers here the time of day equally, but there comes a time when performances and results are just not acceptable.
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: brummie exile 1960 on January 05, 2019, 11:20:25 PM
Backs to the wall..... I've got a rather worrying smile on my face this evening. Kidderminster away next week. There is a cracking real ale bar about 250 metres downhill from the station. I'll be there from about 1230hours. About a 15 minute walk to the ground. I'll have a green jacket on with United scarf tucked in. I used the official "away bar" when DG's side lost 3-0 to Worcester City. Mayhem. A guy{Darren?] almost broke his neck falling off a chair and we got an ambulance for him. The season we came 6th. Very good food at the ground. If you end up at the station, there is a class chippy opposite.

UTP

Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Old boy thin on January 05, 2019, 11:38:46 PM
Not a time to change the manager, that won't help and at the end of the day the players in the first half let him and us down.
Didn't the fans state under the Greene era when countless players had been signed and that the manger was deemed a 'tinkerman' that the buck stops with him regarding form ? Should be no different here considering how many personnel we have gone through to date. He picks the teams, chooses the formations, re-addresses tactics mid match etc etc.  If the slump continues, where do we draw the line ?
I've been loyal and given all the managers here the time of day equally, but there comes a time when performances and results are just not acceptable.
Sorry l can't comment on the Green days old chap, as l was not in the country and never got to watch a game, under Green.
My first home game in 10years today, so my opinion is limited to what I have seen.
But l respect your opinion totally as someone who has seen a great deal more than me over the past decade.
Chin chin my friend.
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: joshb on January 06, 2019, 09:16:28 AM
Backs to the wall..... I've got a rather worrying smile on my face this evening. Kidderminster away next week. There is a cracking real ale bar about 250 metres downhill from the station. I'll be there from about 1230hours. About a 15 minute walk to the ground. I'll have a green jacket on with United scarf tucked in. I used the official "away bar" when DG's side lost 3-0 to Worcester City. Mayhem. A guy{Darren?] almost broke his neck falling off a chair and we got an ambulance for him. The season we came 6th. Very good food at the ground. If you end up at the station, there is a class chippy opposite.

UTP

I'll be in the king and castle pub at the svern valley railway station. Don't bother with pub on site as they charge entry
Weavers ale House on the High St is also decent and its only 2 mins from station. One of my favourite away days Shame the footy will likely let it down!

That said, kiddy are such a soft touch I'd back us to win there
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: holbeach 56 on January 06, 2019, 11:07:32 AM
I can remember when Abbott signed Craig said he will become a fans favourite or words to that effect. Well along with him and the rest of his ex players non are good enough for this league in my opinion and I worry he is not learning quick enough what is required in terms of players or more worryingly tactics .
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: The Third Twin on January 06, 2019, 12:53:36 PM
his ex players non are good enough for this league in my opinion and I worry he is not learning quick enough what is required in terms of players or more worryingly tactics .
I have the same concerns regarding the players he's had before. As I see it the problem is that both the manager and playing staff have been used to playing title winning football at the lower levels CE's been at previously. As said by others, the step up for all concerned seems to be biting us at the present time. I've been somebody whose continually expressed "give him time", but even the more patient amongst us seem to be losing faith...
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: brummie exile 1960 on January 06, 2019, 01:00:09 PM
Backs to the wall..... I've got a rather worrying smile on my face this evening. Kidderminster away next week. There is a cracking real ale bar about 250 metres downhill from the station. I'll be there from about 1230hours. About a 15 minute walk to the ground. I'll have a green jacket on with United scarf tucked in. I used the official "away bar" when DG's side lost 3-0 to Worcester City. Mayhem. A guy{Darren?] almost broke his neck falling off a chair and we got an ambulance for him. The season we came 6th. Very good food at the ground. If you end up at the station, there is a class chippy opposite.

UTP

I'll be in the king and castle pub at the svern valley railway station. Don't bother with pub on site as they charge entry
Weavers ale House on the High St is also decent and its only 2 mins from station. One of my favourite away days Shame the footy will likely let it down!

That said, kiddy are such a soft touch I'd back us to win there


OK joshb, in that case I'll start off at the King and Castle. Weavers is the name of that real ale bar down the road. Great beer. Hope to see you on Saturday!

UTP
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Champs next year on January 06, 2019, 02:06:25 PM
his ex players non are good enough for this league in my opinion and I worry he is not learning quick enough what is required in terms of players or more worryingly tactics .
I have the same concerns regarding the players he's had before. As I see it the problem is that both the manager and playing staff have been used to playing title winning football at the lower levels CE's been at previously. As said by others, the step up for all concerned seems to be biting us at the present time. I've been somebody whose continually expressed "give him time", but even the more patient amongst us seem to be losing faith...

Is it not starting to look that both Murray & Elliot have totally misjudged what personnel & what is required tactically to be successful in the CN ?

Murray coming from the FL got it staggeringly wrong with recruitment & playing (non) style. As is being said the players who have served CE well at a lower level cannot cut it at this level.

As Murray discovered this league is unforgiving & once teams know (as they already do) that your are on the slide  believe me they all put the boot in when your confidence is shot.
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Pilgrim86 on January 07, 2019, 11:47:26 AM
SACKED!

Kidderminster have parted company with their manager...
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Champs next year on January 07, 2019, 12:08:46 PM
SACKED!

Kidderminster have parted company with their manager...

Timing is awful for us! There will likely be a big reaction from them as is usually the case when a Manager is sacked.
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: brummie exile 1960 on January 07, 2019, 12:19:51 PM
True. But I think they are away to Spennymoor tomorrow night, which won't do them any favours for the weekend.
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Imp Stalker on January 07, 2019, 04:17:11 PM
probably get cancelled halfway up the motorway
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on January 07, 2019, 04:47:51 PM
I still say give CE time. A season of learning will probably mean we'll finish about half way down the final table. Just need to ride out the rough patch. Some of these players did it for us last season so it's not massively wrong (there's a few I'd move on though). The lack of confidence shouldn't be underestimated and CE needs to make this a priority - maximise what he's got rather than just look for alternatives.

Expectations were high on the basis of CE's previous record, the job he did for us last season, the 'big names' he signed in pre-season and the start we then had to this season. I'm pretty certain David Newton won't be firing him anytime soon. Unless anyone has any better ideas we'd best back what we've got. New managers cost money and there's no guarantee he/she would fair any better if things were changed.

TEP
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Deeping Pilgrim on January 07, 2019, 04:48:55 PM
probably get cancelled halfway up the motorway

The weather forecast tomorrow evening is for it to be 2 degrees above freezing, I'm sure that will be ample reason for Spennymoron to try and get the game called off.
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: green hats mate on January 07, 2019, 05:41:56 PM
I still say give CE time. A season of learning will probably mean we'll finish about half way down the final table. Just need to ride out the rough patch. Some of these players did it for us last season so it's not massively wrong (there's a few I'd move on though). The lack of confidence shouldn't be underestimated and CE needs to make this a priority - maximise what he's got rather than just look for alternatives.

Expectations were high on the basis of CE's previous record, the job he did for us last season, the 'big names' he signed in pre-season and the start we then had to this season. I'm pretty certain David Newton won't be firing him anytime soon. Unless anyone has any better ideas we'd best back what we've got. New managers cost money and there's no guarantee he/she would fair any better if things were changed.

TEP

I think you are right TEP ,  the vociferous fans who in the past were quick to call for the managers head see now that changing manager does not always mean better results and bigger gates .
I think listening to Craig on the  radio Saturday night he has about run out of ideas and if things don't improve by the end of the month he will walk in any case .
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: The Third Twin on January 07, 2019, 07:31:46 PM
probably get cancelled halfway up the motorway

The weather forecast tomorrow evening is for it to be 2 degrees above freezing, I'm sure that will be ample reason for Spennymoron to try and get the game called off.
either that or with a 10% chance of early  rain, they'll get a local ref to inspect at about 8am and declare a small puddle is enough to waterlog the pitch! Or maybe a gust of wind overnight will shift an advertising board 2 inches, so there'll be a safety issue!
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Champs next year on January 08, 2019, 04:10:25 PM
I still say give CE time. A season of learning will probably mean we'll finish about half way down the final table. Just need to ride out the rough patch. Some of these players did it for us last season so it's not massively wrong (there's a few I'd move on though). The lack of confidence shouldn't be underestimated and CE needs to make this a priority - maximise what he's got rather than just look for alternatives.

Expectations were high on the basis of CE's previous record, the job he did for us last season, the 'big names' he signed in pre-season and the start we then had to this season. I'm pretty certain David Newton won't be firing him anytime soon. Unless anyone has any better ideas we'd best back what we've got. New managers cost money and there's no guarantee he/she would fair any better if things were changed.

TEP

I think you are right TEP ,  the vociferous fans who in the past were quick to call for the managers head see now that changing manager does not always mean better results and bigger gates .
I think listening to Craig on the  radio Saturday night he has about run out of ideas and if things don't improve by the end of the month he will walk in any case .

Agree GHM, the fixtures up to the end of the month are gonna b tough. It's all about results & points now. Nobody (as is clear from CE's recent press),  is more disalussioned than him. This could go either way. However, if this slump continues I can see him making way.
Title: Re: Time for a change
Post by: Burgh Boy on January 08, 2019, 06:54:37 PM
Really sorry to say this but BUFC are not a team but a club. A different XI each week. Sometimes we will put out a good side gelling together and sometimes not - take your pick whatever week you decide to watch! How many players that have appeared so far this season?