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Title: vs BPA
Post by: The Third Twin on December 28, 2018, 12:00:02 PM
Match referee is Rock / Paper / Scissors who sent off Gough and Abbott earlier this season
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 28, 2018, 12:43:28 PM
The problems and pressure mount's, BPA are in breathtaking form so l don't think the ref will be called upon to make many controversial decisions.
Other than whether to make sure he has enough room in his note book for all the BPA goal scorers.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: The Third Twin on December 28, 2018, 01:52:24 PM
The problems and pressure mount's, BPA are in breathtaking form so l don't think the ref will be called upon to make many controversial decisions.
Other than whether to make sure he has enough room in his note book for all the BPA goal scorers.
I hope you're wrong YC, but i also fear the worst.
Their away form is top of the league. P11 W7 D2 L2 F30 A16 P23
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: The Third Twin on December 29, 2018, 12:39:15 PM
It's match day and the wind could play havoc with hoof-ball!
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: Champs next year on December 29, 2018, 01:49:11 PM
It's match day and the wind could play havoc with hoof-ball!

Yes, it may even force us to keep the round thing on the deck? Then the shock of that may see the ball being passed about from pilgrim to pilgrim. Sorry I'm awake now, just had a strange dream lol.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 29, 2018, 06:25:19 PM
Well wasn't expecting that scoreline, bloody shame we couldn't hold out for the win.
We seem to be a second half team.
We need to take this performance into News Years Day.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: Ed Kandii on December 29, 2018, 06:27:47 PM
My rose-tinted glasses detected an improvement since the Boxing Day smash and grab raid by the Alfreton spoilers.  BPA were there to play football and we matched the league leaders all the way. Great hold up play by big Gav, and he was unlucky not to get a goal.  A big plus to have him back and he could build a good partnership with Rollins.
I've always been a fan of Thanoj, but today even the rose tints were struggling and I was hoping we might see the new loan midfielder on in the second half, but CE went for Spencer instead.  With Clee on for them the midfield was lost, with Allott off the ball wasn't sticking up front long enough, and it seemed just a matter of whether there was enough time for an equaliser, unfortunately there was.  :'(
If we can play like that at Alfreton, and learn the lessons from Boxing day, then we're in with a fighting chance  :police:
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: oxo on December 29, 2018, 06:53:42 PM
Well wasn't expecting that scoreline, bloody shame we couldn't hold out for the win.
We seem to be a second half team.
We need to take this performance into News Years Day.


Oh come on you can moan better than that. Take the manager apart man a draw against your (breath taking team) deserves instant dismissal. Were you in attendance? or were you so disgusted with Boxing Day you didn't bother
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: Fishtoft Crew on December 29, 2018, 07:14:54 PM
Fair result in the end if I’m honest and very entertaining. George messed up for the first goal then second half once again was a game changer they were quality first half.  My only negative is Nicks form first half couldn’t trap it or influence the game and generally just gave it away and what I didn’t like abused his team mates whereas BPA seemed a team that were together.   But Mel is right a point before the game you would have taken. Nice touch at end with players applauded off as I think the work ratio warranted it.  Craig is perhaps struggling a bit but he’s learning at this level so no real criticism from me as I think another season will see the end result.  Liverpool gave Koop time what do they know.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 29, 2018, 07:51:49 PM
Well wasn't expecting that scoreline, bloody shame we couldn't hold out for the win.
We seem to be a second half team.
We need to take this performance into News Years Day.


Oh come on you can moan better than that. Take the manager apart man a draw against your (breath taking team) deserves instant dismissal. Were you in attendance? or were you so disgusted with Boxing Day you didn't bother
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Let me respond to your points.
Yes.
Didn't do.
Yes
No.
End of response.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: Champs next year on December 29, 2018, 07:56:48 PM
Well wasn't expecting that scoreline, bloody shame we couldn't hold out for the win.
We seem to be a second half team.
We need to take this performance into News Years Day.


Oh come on you can moan better than that. Take the manager apart man a draw against your (breath taking team) deserves instant dismissal. Were you in attendance? or were you so disgusted with Boxing Day you didn't bother
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Let me respond to your points.
Yes.
Didn't do.
Yes
No.
End of response.

YC you really, really need 2 get as grip!  Your nonsense on here is boring. As soon as we lose a game you want the Manager sacked. It's pathetic. Do not pm me ever again.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: garry@ on December 29, 2018, 08:01:26 PM
Well wasn't expecting that scoreline, bloody shame we couldn't hold out for the win.
We seem to be a second half team.
We need to take this performance into News Years Day.


Oh come on you can moan better than that. Take the manager apart man a draw against your (breath taking team) deserves instant dismissal. Were you in attendance? or were you so disgusted with Boxing Day you didn't bother
[/quote
Let me respond to your points.
Yes.
Didn't do.
Yes
No.
End of response.

YC you really, really need 2 get as grip!  Your nonsense on here is boring. As soon as we lose a game you want the Manager sacked. It's pathetic. Do not pm me ever again.
well said, laugh at the drivel he spouts
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: garry@ on December 29, 2018, 08:03:57 PM
Fair result in the end if I’m honest and very entertaining. George messed up for the first goal then second half once again was a game changer they were quality first half.  My only negative is Nicks form first half couldn’t trap it or influence the game and generally just gave it away and what I didn’t like abused his team mates whereas BPA seemed a team that were together.   But Mel is right a point before the game you would have taken. Nice touch at end with players applauded off as I think the work ratio warranted it.  Craig is perhaps struggling a bit but he’s learning at this level so no real criticism from me as I think another season will see the end result.  Liverpool gave Koop time what do they know.
Bit unfair on George as it took a glance on way through that changed flight of ball, wasn't a free kick anyway and was taken 10yds from where it should off been.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 29, 2018, 08:12:55 PM
Well wasn't expecting that scoreline, bloody shame we couldn't hold out for the win.
We seem to be a second half team.
We need to take this performance into News Years Day.


Oh come on you can moan better than that. Take the manager apart man a draw against your (breath taking team) deserves instant dismissal. Were you in attendance? or were you so disgusted with Boxing Day you didn't bother
[/quote
Let me respond to your points.
Yes.
Didn't do.
Yes
No.
End of response.

YC you really, really need 2 get as grip!  Your nonsense on here is boring. As soon as we lose a game you want the Manager sacked. It's pathetic. Do not pm me ever again.
No.
No
No
Yes.

Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 29, 2018, 08:21:05 PM
Well wasn't expecting that scoreline, bloody shame we couldn't hold out for the win.
We seem to be a second half team.
We need to take this performance into News Years Day.


Oh come on you can moan better than that. Take the manager apart man a draw against your (breath taking team) deserves instant dismissal. Were you in attendance? or were you so disgusted with Boxing Day you didn't bother
[/quote
Let me respond to your points.
Yes.
Didn't do.
Yes
No.
End of response.

YC you really, really need 2 get as grip!  Your nonsense on here is boring. As soon as we lose a game you want the Manager sacked. It's pathetic. Do not pm me ever again.
well said, laugh at the drivel he spouts
If you don't like my posts don't read them, but if you think for one moment that I will give into your bullying you are sadly wrong.
If people don't agree with your opinions you jump on them, how narrowed minded is that.
This is a forum that everyone had the right to view their opinions, whatever or whoever they are.
That's why it's called a forum.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: Fishtoft Crew on December 29, 2018, 10:35:24 PM
Ok Garry I’m down Spain Lane so didn’t see that and I am happy to say George had been game saver in the last two games
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 29, 2018, 11:08:28 PM
So champs, Garry why didn't you comment on the Alferton defeat, you soon chirp up when we have a positive result.
If you look back at my apparent drivel most people agreed with my comments about the match and CE.
Now l will ask yourselves and OXO, this question which l asked on Saturday.
What has positively improved about our sqaud and performance, post the first 5 games of this season and are we in a better position in the table.
Remember l am talking about this season and not the last one.
If you can demonstrate to me in facts and figures, l will remove myself from this forum and will discontinue my support for the club after 30+ years and never enter York Street or the new stadium again.


Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 29, 2018, 11:24:20 PM
Well wasn't expecting that scoreline, bloody shame we couldn't hold out for the win.
We seem to be a second half team.
We need to take this performance into News Years Day.


Oh come on you can moan better than that. Take the manager apart man a draw against your (breath taking team) deserves instant dismissal. Were you in attendance? or were you so disgusted with Boxing Day you didn't bother
CE said they are a great team.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on December 30, 2018, 07:25:00 AM
YC,

I don't know if anyone can say really whether there has been any 'positive improvement' since the first five games. But then maybe we were a bit lucky at the start - perhaps some of the opposition were below par and maybe we were over achieving. Who knows ?

My view on this though is that I don't expect continuous improvement. I would like it, as no doubt we all would, but I'm realistic. We're not talking about Jurgen Klopp here - this is Craig Elliott - part time football manager I am led to believe and school PE teacher who is in his first  full season at managing at this level. On that basis I expect just as many lows as highs as he finds his feet and that translates as just as many defeats as victories. Anything better than that is a bonus this season. Maybe we all raised our expectations after the great job he did last season and the way we started this season - and with the recruitment of some excellent signings in the summer (on paper at least).

This could be so much worse. Imagine being a York City fan or Guiseley for example, who have both been up there and are now below us. This isn't a time for a Mourinho style witch hunt. Let's keep the faith and keep behind the Club and put our trust in the manager. I don't think he set out with the intention of using so many players - it's just a consequence of the summer signings not working out and he's now trying hard to make amends (I'd rather he did that than do what Murray did and stick to his guns as we sank to the bottom - YC - you backed him big time remember). CE will have learnt a hell of a lot this season so far. Its a steep learning curve. Let's enjoy the victories but not get too despondent when we put in an 'Alfreton Boxing Day' performance.

TEP

Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 30, 2018, 08:46:43 AM
YC,

I don't know if anyone can say really whether there has been any 'positive improvement' since the first five games. But then maybe we were a bit lucky at the start - perhaps some of the opposition were below par and maybe we were over achieving. Who knows ?

My view on this though is that I don't expect continuous improvement. I would like it, as no doubt we all would, but I'm realistic. We're not talking about Jurgen Klopp here - this is Craig Elliott - part time football manager I am led to believe and school PE teacher who is in his first  full season at managing at this level. On that basis I expect just as many lows as highs as he finds his feet and that translates as just as many defeats as victories. Anything better than that is a bonus this season. Maybe we all raised our expectations after the great job he did last season and the way we started this season - and with the recruitment of some excellent signings in the summer (on paper at least).

This could be so much worse. Imagine being a York City fan or Guiseley for example, who have both been up there and are now below us. This isn't a time for a Mourinho style witch hunt. Let's keep the faith and keep behind the Club and put our trust in the manager. I don't think he set out with the intention of using so many players - it's just a consequence of the summer signings not working out and he's now trying hard to make amends (I'd rather he did that than do what Murray did and stick to his guns as we sank to the bottom - YC - you backed him big time remember). CE will have learnt a hell of a lot this season so far. Its a steep learning curve. Let's enjoy the victories but not get too despondent when we put in an 'Alfreton Boxing Day' performance.

TEP
Thanks for the positive non abusive and constructive reply, it's really appreciated.
I do agree with you totally on your comments, the frustration is clearly evident with everyone concerned at the club over the way this season had gone so far.
I think yesterday was a turning point for this team, we were unlucky to have not win, l am though confused at the reply to my post by OXO as l didn't post anything negative, and many others criticised CE and doubted his ability to manage in this league, but he singled me out only to criticize.
Then of course his mate's join in as per normal but that's our they are.
I am quite aware who OXO is and the work he does for the club and supporters, which l commend totally.
But l do feel that he has to accept that other people do not share his point of view on players or managers at this club, all supporters have the right to voice their opinions as paying fan's.
Many of us are very loyal fans in different ways, many of us cannot travel to away games as we have family and work commitments or simply cannot afford to.
Many of us cannot actively get involved with the club in a volunteering or fundraising capacity for the same reasons.
We do though keep coming through those turnstiles, buying shirts and merchandise, golden goal tickets etc.
Yesterday I had 5 guests with me all paying full admission prices to sit down, they don't normally go but decided to come and watch as neutral supporters and they enjoyed it very much.
But again thank you for your comments TTT it's much appreciated
Happy New Year to you and your family.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: The Third Twin on December 30, 2018, 10:42:35 AM
What a shame we couldn't hold on. At half time I thought we were in debt to our keeper for only being 1 down. Second half and 2 quick strikes later, we looked a different team for 20-25 minutes, and I really thought we might hold on. To take nothing away from BPA, they played well, but the way their fans celebrated rescuing a single point, showed they realized they'd had a game yesterday. I have to say the addition of Jay Rollins gave us an extra something up top, which helped MOM Allott, but it did leave us needy in midfield again with only Abbott and Costello, sorry, Abbott and Thanoj in there! Onwards to Alfreton to avenge our Boxing Day defeat. See you all there.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: garry@ on December 30, 2018, 11:09:37 AM
YC69,
You started thread with a negative again and had to eat humble pie, believe me I have eaten a lot.

This year is far from perfect, yes we have lost too many games, You seem to expect success from CE this year and it is not going to happen.
We have a revolving door system and have used 40 plus players but what if CE and his team just sat and went with the players signed in the summer, and what if we had a chairman who said you signed them so play them.

You want a reply to the Alfreaton game?
Job done by a very good manager, they came for a 0-0 draw got an early goal and spoilt the next 84 minutes, would you like to watch these big money signings every week ? Obviously not happy and miss the proper Boxing Day clashes of the past.

Bully? when have I used strength or influence against you?
I only used the word Drivel because I thought Crap was to demeaning of a fellow supporter.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: oxo on December 30, 2018, 12:59:34 PM
YC,

I don't know if anyone can say really whether there has been any 'positive improvement' since the first five games. But then maybe we were a bit lucky at the start - perhaps some of the opposition were below par and maybe we were over achieving. Who knows ?

My view on this though is that I don't expect continuous improvement. I would like it, as no doubt we all would, but I'm realistic. We're not talking about Jurgen Klopp here - this is Craig Elliott - part time football manager I am led to believe and school PE teacher who is in his first  full season at managing at this level. On that basis I expect just as many lows as highs as he finds his feet and that translates as just as many defeats as victories. Anything better than that is a bonus this season. Maybe we all raised our expectations after the great job he did last season and the way we started this season - and with the recruitment of some excellent signings in the summer (on paper at least).

This could be so much worse. Imagine being a York City fan or Guiseley for example, who have both been up there and are now below us. This isn't a time for a Mourinho style witch hunt. Let's keep the faith and keep behind the Club and put our trust in the manager. I don't think he set out with the intention of using so many players - it's just a consequence of the summer signings not working out and he's now trying hard to make amends (I'd rather he did that than do what Murray did and stick to his guns as we sank to the bottom - YC - you backed him big time remember). CE will have learnt a hell of a lot this season so far. Its a steep learning curve. Let's enjoy the victories but not get too despondent when we put in an 'Alfreton Boxing Day' performance.

TEP
Thanks for the positive non abusive and constructive reply, it's really appreciated.
I do agree with you totally on your comments, the frustration is clearly evident with everyone concerned at the club over the way this season had gone so far.
I think yesterday was a turning point for this team, we were unlucky to have not win, l am though confused at the reply to my post by OXO as l didn't post anything negative, and many others criticised CE and doubted his ability to manage in this league, but he singled me out only to criticize.
Then of course his mate's join in as per normal but that's our they are.
I am quite aware who OXO is and the work he does for the club and supporters, which l commend totally.
But l do feel that he has to accept that other people do not share his point of view on players or managers at this club, all supporters have the right to voice their opinions as paying fan's.
Many of us are very loyal fans in different ways, many of us cannot travel to away games as we have family and work commitments or simply cannot afford to.
Many of us cannot actively get involved with the club in a volunteering or fundraising capacity for the same reasons.
We do though keep coming through those turnstiles, buying shirts and merchandise, golden goal tickets etc.
Yesterday I had 5 guests with me all paying full admission prices to sit down, they don't normally go but decided to come and watch as neutral supporters and they enjoyed it very much.
But again thank you for your comments TTT it's much appreciated
Happy New Year to you and your family.


You want Elliott sacking and made it very clear following the Alfreton game. You commented that the referee should have plenty of room in his book to record all the Bradford goals prior to this game, hardly encouraging. I don't want him sacking I believe he will be successful with us given time and my recent comment was a dig at you suddenly after the game making a positive comment. I do accept that other people do not always agree with my views but I don't cry about it. So you "know who I am and what I do for the club and fans" What the hell as that got to do with anything I don't hide behind that and certainly don't seek your praise. I don't know who you are and frankly don't care. I will in the spirit of friendship stop commenting on any of your future posts. 
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 30, 2018, 01:22:36 PM
Very sorry to offended you.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 30, 2018, 01:23:31 PM
YC69,
You started thread with a negative again and had to eat humble pie, believe me I have eaten a lot.

This year is far from perfect, yes we have lost too many games, You seem to expect success from CE this year and it is not going to happen.
We have a revolving door system and have used 40 plus players but what if CE and his team just sat and went with the players signed in the summer, and what if we had a chairman who said you signed them so play them.

You want a reply to the Alfreaton game?
Job done by a very good manager, they came for a 0-0 draw got an early goal and spoilt the next 84 minutes, would you like to watch these big money signings every week ? Obviously not happy and miss the proper Boxing Day clashes of the past.

Bully? when have I used strength or influence against you?
I only used the word Drivel because I thought Crap was to demeaning of a fellow supporter.
Very sorry to of offended you.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: Ken Fox on December 30, 2018, 10:18:40 PM
A few snaps from the game on a public Facebook Photo Album:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10156959183039282&type=1&l=b2fb08425c (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10156959183039282&type=1&l=b2fb08425c)

and a selection of snaps for those that don't do Facebook:

http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/bradfordparkavenue291218.html (http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/bradfordparkavenue291218.html)
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: Old boy thin on January 01, 2019, 08:03:31 PM
Fair result in the end if I’m honest and very entertaining. George messed up for the first goal then second half once again was a game changer they were quality first half.  My only negative is Nicks form first half couldn’t trap it or influence the game and generally just gave it away and what I didn’t like abused his team mates whereas BPA seemed a team that were together.   But Mel is right a point before the game you would have taken. Nice touch at end with players applauded off as I think the work ratio warranted it.  Craig is perhaps struggling a bit but he’s learning at this level so no real criticism from me as I think another season will see the end result.  Liverpool gave Koop time what do they know.
Bit unfair on George as it took a glance on way through that changed flight of ball, wasn't a free kick anyway and was taken 10yds from where it should off been.
Sorry old chap, but don't want to stir the pot.
Just looked at the highlights on the goggle box and the ball went straight in, think poor old George got his position all wrong, perhaps though his view may have been obscured by the giants in front of him, but some excellent saves through the game though chin chin.
Title: Re: vs BPA
Post by: garry@ on January 02, 2019, 12:09:01 AM
Fair result in the end if I’m honest and very entertaining. George messed up for the first goal then second half once again was a game changer they were quality first half.  My only negative is Nicks form first half couldn’t trap it or influence the game and generally just gave it away and what I didn’t like abused his team mates whereas BPA seemed a team that were together.   But Mel is right a point before the game you would have taken. Nice touch at end with players applauded off as I think the work ratio warranted it.  Craig is perhaps struggling a bit but he’s learning at this level so no real criticism from me as I think another season will see the end result.  Liverpool gave Koop time what do they know.
Bit unfair on George as it took a glance on way through that changed flight of ball, wasn't a free kick anyway and was taken 10yds from where it should off been.

Sorry Fishtoft I was wrong it did in fact go straight in, I must have a visit to specsavers.
Young Chubby or what ever your called today? I'm eating my pie.
Sorry old chap, but don't want to stir the pot.
Just looked at the highlights on the goggle box and the ball went straight in, think poor old George got his position all wrong, perhaps though his view may have been obscured by the giants in front of him, but some excellent saves through the game though chin chin.