Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: holbeach 56 on November 23, 2018, 11:14:32 PM
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We are now nearing end of November and no signs of work starting . I believe the chairman said it would definitely start this year if so leaving it late. Seems to me we could be at york street for a few more seasons . Anybody have any up to date news.
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We are now nearing end of November and no signs of work starting . I believe the chairman said it would definitely start this year if so leaving it late. Seems to me we could be at york street for a few more seasons . Anybody have any up to date news.
Work has started on the new ground, they have been doing ground works and putting in piles to support the new stadium.
The problem is you can't see much as the brushes and trees obscure the view from the A16.
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Thanks yc69. So done about enough for us to not lose planning permission then. I can see us being at York Street for a few more seasons yet at this rate.
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Thanks yc69. So done about enough for us to not lose planning permission then. I can see us being at York Street for a few more seasons yet at this rate.
I think once the ground works are completed, the rest will go up quit quickly, my understanding is these things are mainly like a big mecano set.
But l would think it will at least take another couple of years to build.
Let's just hope it can be built in its entirety and not phases.
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The problem is you can't see much as the brushes and trees obscure the view from the A16.
Brushes? Are we using a sweeper system?
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Thanks yc69. So done about enough for us to not lose planning permission then. I can see us being at York Street for a few more seasons yet at this rate.
There's more to a stadium that just sticking up some terraces... work has started, it doesn't need to be a rush job.
Maybe have a word with the chairman at the next home game, ask him what's going on...
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My only criticism here is the lack of information from the club. It'd be nice to know how it's progressing (or not) as it saves all the speculation. Photos were posted online several weeks ago of the foundations going in, and that's significant work in itself, but whether it's now finished, or halted - no idea.
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If the piles, pile caps, and ground beams are in then that's a big investment . A large pot of money buried in the ground, so hopefully the top bit will be bolted on soon :police:
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thank you pilgrim 86 for your wisdom. As a Spurs fan as well I am aware of how long a stadium takes, although obviously not quite on their scale. The point was that we get very little info and I thought the idea for moving was to get us on a better financial footing and the longer it takes the further away from this we get and build costs will only increase.
I assume that we have permission to continue at York Street ad infinitum , perhaps you are aware Pilgrim 86?
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I believe DN has no worries about extending the YS lease as much as is needed.
He does want to move out ASAP, as the excessive rent, bills and maintenance are burning a hole in the club's pocket.
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Thanks yc69. So done about enough for us to not lose planning permission then. I can see us being at York Street for a few more seasons yet at this rate.
I think once the ground works are completed, the rest will go up quit quickly, my understanding is these things are mainly like a big mecano set.
But l would think it will at least take another couple of years to build.
Let's just hope it can be built in its entirety and not phases.
I spoke to DN about this. Yes the stadium is a modular almost off-the-shelf design and comes in huge prefab blocks that literally bolt together.
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I did hear that work on the Quadrant itself had halted at one point as the houses weren't selling.
The longer we go without the new stadium the more I wish we could stay at York Street, although accept that isn't possible or viable, just slightly worried that the atmosphere won't be as it is now, or the gates as high.
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I did hear that work on the Quadrant itself had halted at one point as the houses weren't selling.
The longer we go without the new stadium the more I wish we could stay at York Street, although accept that isn't possible or viable, just slightly worried that the atmosphere won't be as it is now, or the gates as high.
You make some valid points. Many fans will sorely miss York Street, one of the really old famous, traditional, football grounds; with not long left. A new stadium, a bright future beckons? Will all current attending home fans welcome the move? Will the novelty soon ware off, or will numbers just not fancy the short trip out of town? At the end of the day home gates will depend on the level we are playing at & quality of football being served up.
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Absolutely agree champs. If we have a good winning team people will go but I fear that if we are served up similar to what we have currently then I think we will see gates nearer to 700.
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Is it too late to move the ground to Greater Manchester? We seem unbeatable there....
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The problem is you can't see much as the brushes and trees obscure the view from the A16.
Brushes? Are we using a sweeper system?
A road sweeper with big bushes on the motor that you can see through brushes.
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Would a no deal Brexit mess things up for the Chestnuts. House prices could fall by 40%.
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Would a no deal Brexit mess things up for the Chestnuts. House prices could fall by 40%.
It would be built by now if it wasn't for Brexit.
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Boston would be in division 2 if it was not for Brexit ;)
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Oh I see! Blame Brexit if there's no ground then!
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Oh I see! Blame Brexit if there's no ground then!
Just saying it as it is.
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Oh I see! Blame Brexit if there's no ground then!
Just saying it as it is.
I thought the chairman had intimated the weak pound meant the steel was more expensive. The weak pound is due to Brexit. So it's not disingenuous to link the two.
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Had a conversation this morning to a local councillor and mentioned the ground. I asked him if he thought the ground would be built. Surprised he wasn't very optimistic... I hope so he replied.
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Now let's not start getting all very sceptical about the ground, let's look at the facts so far.
The ground works and piling work is taking place already.
Retail units are starting to be built.
Work has clearly not stopped on the Quadrant site, my friend is working 6 days a week plumbing on there.
The chairman has already said we have the money for the stadium to be built, but not yet the community gym, unless funding has been approved now.
Don't want to be disrespectful to councillor's but they IMO are very much like politicians, not very reliable and never answer questions with a straight answer.
Not all are like that but so many are, there were many parish councillor's that were against it from the start, and categorically said the plans would never get passed.
This stadium is being built by a club that has no assets to offset the build costs, so to achieve this was always going to be hard drawn out affair.
Let's not forget that the council has put in place clauses that ensures that the stadium will be built, or the Quadrant doesn't progress unless they are met.
David Newton has not let us down so far and l can't see why people think that he would let us down now.
It would destroy his reputation and damage his buissness considerably in the community and with the council.
Let's all relax and remember that we have a cracking ground already, yes it very much depends on the Malkinson family how much longer we remain there,but this is a family that love's BUFC and without them this club would not have what it has now, yes many will argue that we are in the position we are now because of the financial miss management in the past.
But we also could have been playing our football at Boston Town or some ground outside of Boston, like Kettering do.
Brexit is Brexit and l don't see how that will change what we are trying to achieve, l am sure Theresa May had bigger fish to fry than worrying about pulling funding for our stadium.
Everything is pure speculation and remains that until it actually comes into being fact.
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Oh I see! Blame Brexit if there's no ground then!
Just saying it as it is.
I thought the chairman had intimated the weak pound meant the steel was more expensive. The weak pound is due to Brexit. So it's not disingenuous to link the two.
Trump's 25% tariffs have caused an increase in the price of steel.
The pound was overvalued and was bound to drop in value anyway, with or without a Brexit vote.
It is disingenuous to intimate that the increase in the price of steel is entirely due to Brexit, which is obviously why our chairman chose not to.
Once again our chairman is shown to be a man of honour and integrity. :police:
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The chairman's complaint about steel prices pre-dated Trump's imposition of steel tariffs by about, oooh, two years.... ish.
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So pre-referendum steel prices. Although the pound dropped in value just after the vote, the price of steel didn't suddenly increase.
It was widely expected that an adjustment in the value of the pound was due with or without a Brexit vote.
The chairman has recently repeated his comments on steel prices, and no mention of Brexit.
Don't let inconvenient facts get in the way of Project Fear though, why change the habits of the the last 2+ years? :police:
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I wonder what odds you could get on us not being in the new ground within 5 years pretty good I reckon.
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I wonder what odds you could get on us not being in the new ground within 5 years pretty good I reckon.
Why 5 years, what makes you think that will happen, as l said earlier they will not be able to advance with the Quadrant if the stadium is not built, and let's not forget this is a Community stadium not just for the sole use of BUFC.
I would imagine that the Chestnuts will want to get it built ASAP before the costs go up again..
Quadrant 2 will not get past planning consent if they don't deliver this stadium and that would be disastrous for everyone concerned.
An update from the chairman would be nice though, just to settle the nerve's and speculation down.
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By the way York City's new ground looks great so far, it even has a cinema complex.
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Just get a feeling that there is no rush at the moment and enough has been done to maintain planning permission
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Just get a feeling that there is no rush at the moment and enough has been done to maintain planning permission
As P86 says speak to Mr Newton on Saturday in the vip lounge. Look him in the eye ask your question and then decide if you believe him or not.
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So pre-referendum steel prices.
Don't let inconvenient facts get in the way of Project Fear though, why change the habits of the the last 2+ years? :police:
I'm crap at maths, but somehow you're worse.
I said "two years... ish". The referendum, and immediate slump of the pound, was two years and five months ago.
Inconvenient facts indeed.
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You said that the chairman's remarks pre-dated Trump's steel tariffs by approx two years, so just after the referendum.
The value of the pound had dropped. Steel prices had been rising before the referendum but actually dropped slightly in Q4 of 2016, before continuing to rise.
So no quantifiable Brexit effect on steel prices... you and your Remain buddies are in such a rush to blame Brexit for everything negative that happens you don't appear to even understand what you are writing. :police:
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Agree we can't blame Brexit. It hasn't stopped Mr Newton building houses.