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The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Cavalier on November 03, 2018, 04:57:23 PM

Title: v Ashton Utd
Post by: Cavalier on November 03, 2018, 04:57:23 PM
Boston leading 1 - 0 until 87th min.  Abbott had previously substituted for David Norris but now sent off and Ashton soon equalised.
Massive disappointment and another example of poor discipline letting us down.
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: doc on November 03, 2018, 05:05:52 PM
From the commentary sounded like our keeper made some great saves including a' wonder ' save near the end.........
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: youngchubby69 on November 03, 2018, 05:12:46 PM
Boston leading 1 - 0 until 87th min.  Abbott has substituted for Slew but now sent off and Ashton soon equalise 1 - 1.
Massive disappointment and another example of poor discipline letting us down.
It will be interesting to see the comments of OXO today, he is not a fan of Abbott and rightly so, absolutely a foolish sending off, just keep your mouth shut.
It has probably cost us a win, stupid idiotic behaviour.
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: Pilgrim86 on November 03, 2018, 05:21:04 PM
Boston leading 1 - 0 until 87th min.  Abbott has substituted for Slew but now sent off and Ashton soon equalise 1 - 1.
Massive disappointment and another example of poor discipline letting us down.
It will be interesting to see the comments of OXO today, he is not a fan of Abbott and rightly so, absolutely a foolish sending off, just keep your mouth shut.
It has probably cost us a win, stupid idiotic behaviour.

What did he say?
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: Cavalier on November 03, 2018, 05:37:27 PM
I think he was getting a yellow for kicking the ball away which, if true was stupid.  Even more stupid he appears to have disagreed with the ref and it doesn't matter what he said but I will be very interested to hear what Craig says.
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: youngchubby69 on November 03, 2018, 05:40:35 PM
Boston leading 1 - 0 until 87th min.  Abbott has substituted for Slew but now sent off and Ashton soon equalise 1 - 1.
Massive disappointment and another example of poor discipline letting us down.
It will be interesting to see the comments of OXO today, he is not a fan of Abbott and rightly so, absolutely a foolish sending off, just keep your mouth shut.
It has probably cost us a win, stupid idiotic behaviour.

What did he say?
Probably "welcome back Grant Roberts"
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: Cavalier on November 03, 2018, 05:43:39 PM
Hope David Norris is fit enough to play every game.
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: The Third Twin on November 03, 2018, 06:24:22 PM
Boston leading 1 - 0 until 87th min.  Abbott has substituted for Slew but now sent off and Ashton soon equalise 1 - 1.
Massive disappointment and another example of poor discipline letting us down.
It will be interesting to see the comments of OXO today, he is not a fan of Abbott and rightly so, absolutely a foolish sending off, just keep your mouth shut.
It has probably cost us a win, stupid idiotic behaviour.
indeed, Brad has just drawn a target between his shoulders. Ready, aim.......
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: Champs next year on November 03, 2018, 06:37:19 PM
Regarding the our appalling red card record over the past season and a half; it's strange that maybe more laid back pragmatic Managers Murray & Elliot appear powerless to halt the regular red cards? Then you look back at Greene's 3 year tenure & dismissals weren't regular or costing us games....point being Greene was a passionate hot head & there were plenty of scrappers in his sides; but no where near as many damaging red cards that cost Murray dear & this season has cost Elliot several valuable points already. CE has got to instil discipline into his team, Darlington was bad enough with 2 reds & today Abbot gets a brainless 87th minute red: seconds later 2 points go west....shocking!!
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: oxo on November 03, 2018, 08:13:06 PM
Well here I am and ready to go. Two points chucked away after battling well despite probably the worst refereeing display of the season ably assisted by his flag men. Good to see Norris starting and getting stuck in breaking up their mid field and unlucky not to score with a great strike in the first half. Now lets mention the contender for goal of the season Qualter had the ball some 35 yards out in center field with no real options so just let fly, top corner unstoppable, laughing later he said it was a clearance that he over hit. Was happy Abbott was on the bench and when brought on with a few minutes to go thought well, fair enough not enough time left for him to cock it up. Strangely he does the right thing by taking the ball to the corner flag and shields it against two players, ball goes out and ref gives a throw in to Ashton. Abbott disagrees and lets the referee know his feelings, he turns to walk away from him and the ref blows his whistle to show a yellow for dissent, Abbot tells ref to perambulate in a sexual manner and is red carded. Now I have to say the Ashton manager screamed obscene abuse at the ref all game but no action was taken so you could say double standards, however as has been said one of ours again has let themselves, the manager, his team mates and us the faithful fans down and it is not acceptable. Should at least be fined wages.
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: Batistuta on November 03, 2018, 08:17:33 PM
Getting seriously annoyed by Allott, I know the officials were questionable at best today but does he know the sodding offside rule?
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: brummie exile 1960 on November 03, 2018, 08:56:45 PM
As Samuel L.Jackson once memorably said to John Travolta in the film Pulp Fiction..."CHECK OUT THE BRAINS ON BRAD!!!!!".

N.B. I won't tell you what happened to Brad 30 seconds later.
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: leicester pilgrim on November 03, 2018, 09:19:52 PM
Oxo has it about right.

Early in the second half Jackson fouled the Ashton centre forward and it was very borderline in terms of whether or not it was inside the penalty area. The ref gave a free kick outside the box, but the Ashton dugout weren't happy. I was stood right next to the home dugout at the time and couldn't quite believe what I was hearing. First, the Ashton manager shouted to the ref he was a f***ing cheating c***, then for good measure he said exactly the same thing to the linesman. Quite honestly, the Ashton manager made Steve Evans look like Mary Poppins. The linesman definitely heard what was said and glared at the manager, but no further action was taken. What exactly do managers need to say to get themselves sent to the stands?

Later on in the game Brad Abbott was stupid for his own conduct towards the referee. I also heard what was said and I can't defend him. But his language was no worse than the Ashton manager, and on the basis of what had been allowed earlier in the game I still feel let down by the inconsistency of the officials.

Overall, didn't think we played particularly well. Great goal from Ryan Qualter, but other than that we were below par.
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: The Third Twin on November 03, 2018, 11:15:47 PM
Getting seriously annoyed by Allott, I know the officials were questionable at best today but does he know the sodding offside rule?
at home i sit level with the York St penalty area, and he's always a good yard offside waiting for the ball. It's the way he plays, rightly or wrongly. The lino last Tuesday seldom flagged him, as he was often 5 yards further upfield! If he gets a fussy/efficient one, he will get regularly flagged.
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on November 03, 2018, 11:16:30 PM
Two really poor sides today. A draw a fair result.

We are missing two things - confidence and a player that can run with the ball and be creative. Last season we had Rollins and Hemmings. We desperately lack creativity this season. I'd like to say AUFC were there for the taking but we had no spark - virtually nothing in terms of excitement in the final third.

We can castigate Abbot, the goalie and the disciplinary record all we like but creativity is our issue. I'm not saying its easy to get the personnel to solve this but until we do then it won't be great viewing.

TEP
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: The Third Twin on November 04, 2018, 09:05:20 AM
Two really poor sides today. A draw a fair result.

We are missing two things - confidence and a player that can run with the ball and be creative. Last season we had Rollins and Hemmings. We desperately lack creativity this season. I'd like to say AUFC were there for the taking but we had no spark - virtually nothing in terms of excitement in the final third.

We can castigate Abbot, the goalie and the disciplinary record all we like but creativity is our issue. I'm not saying its easy to get the personnel to solve this but until we do then it won't be great viewing.

TEP
taking your point about missing creativity, lets not forget the 10 or so goals Reece Thompson scored, and the 10 penalties we gained, mostly due to Reece being fouled running at defenders. when he was on his game, he was a right pain in the arse to the opposition backline. We don't have that this season either.
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: Ed Kandii on November 04, 2018, 10:32:39 AM
Did Slew contribute much on his first start?
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: oxo on November 04, 2018, 11:19:54 AM
Oxo has it about right.

Early in the second half Jackson fouled the Ashton centre forward and it was very borderline in terms of whether or not it was inside the penalty area. The ref gave a free kick outside the box, but the Ashton dugout weren't happy. I was stood right next to the home dugout at the time and couldn't quite believe what I was hearing. First, the Ashton manager shouted to the ref he was a f***ing cheating c***, then for good measure he said exactly the same thing to the linesman. Quite honestly, the Ashton manager made Steve Evans look like Mary Poppins. The linesman definitely heard what was said and glared at the manager, but no further action was taken. What exactly do managers need to say to get themselves sent to the stands?

Later on in the game Brad Abbott was stupid for his own conduct towards the referee. I also heard what was said and I can't defend him. But his language was no worse than the Ashton manager, and on the basis of what had been allowed earlier in the game I still feel let down by the inconsistency of the officials.

Overall, didn't think we played particularly well. Great goal from Ryan Qualter, but other than that we were below par.


On the issue of their manager I have never seen the dug outs so far apart and in this soulless ground so much so that they were almost opposite the 18 yard box, This in effect meant that the home dug out are in the face of the linesman both when attacking and defending, of the numerous offside flags against Boston in the first half the linesman was invariably stood with his flag up dead in front of the home dug out with their staff appealing. Likewise when they were attacking as explained by LP. This is not an excuse for failing to win but certainly any weak lino (and there are plenty of those in this division) will be effected by this.
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: joshb on November 04, 2018, 09:20:23 PM
Did Slew contribute much on his first start?

Worked hard, ran their defence around, like the lads up top did but quality was lacking with the final ball or shot
Title: Re: v Ashton Utd
Post by: Pilgrim86 on November 05, 2018, 02:41:46 PM
Short highlights now available...

http://www.thenationalleague.org.uk/match-info/match-centre/1-3614445