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Title: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: southender on October 30, 2018, 10:15:22 PM
Can someone tell our keeper we are playing at Curzon Ashton on Saturday...………..
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: York Street Pilgrim on October 31, 2018, 09:33:54 PM
Can someone please tell southender that our goalkeeper is a talented player, capped at full international level by his national team. Can someone also tell southender that the keeper is recovering from a long term injury, hasn't had a pre season and will still be catching up in terms of fitness, positioning and match practice. Can someone also tell southender that the goalkeeper is a human being, and that human beings can occasionally have off days.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: southender on October 31, 2018, 10:46:39 PM
Thanks for that - he also cost us the game
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: youngchubby69 on November 01, 2018, 12:00:40 AM
Now then chaps let's not fall out,it will soon be Christmas.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: York Street Pilgrim on November 01, 2018, 06:43:43 AM
Thanks for that - he also cost us the game

True, but for all of the reasons given we should cut a bit of slack. I'm a Boston United supporter, not a Boston United critic.

By comparison, Ben Middleton cost us the game at Darlington with a stupid and inexcusable challenge. There were a few comments on here about it afterwards, but nobody created a whole new anti-Middleton thread. Why do we need one for the keeper?
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: green hats mate on November 01, 2018, 09:06:44 AM
Thanks for that - he also cost us the game

And there was plenty of our other players out there who also contributed to the defeat
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on November 01, 2018, 10:10:40 AM
Surely all of the outfield players cost us the game by not creating enough chances and scoring enough goals. You could criticise everyone if you really wanted !

TEP
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: Ferret on November 01, 2018, 11:21:15 AM
Can you elaborate southender?

The first goal looked like something out of the 1950's.  A lot of refs would have given it as a foul on the keeper.

The second goal - is he expected to mark the man coming in on the back post?

The third goal  - a well struck shot that many would have struggled to get near.

Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: noughtyforties on November 01, 2018, 12:47:14 PM
When the manager comes out and says he should be doing better with all three I think its an open and shut case.

A bad night but he's human, we move on.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on November 01, 2018, 12:55:45 PM
Maybe he should have done better but then so should the rest of the players - and the management team. We do move on - thankfully.


TEP
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: Dipdodah on November 01, 2018, 01:20:53 PM
Have just seen the replay, erm make your own minds up.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: garry@ on November 01, 2018, 03:24:58 PM
First one looks like free kick to me but at 6ft Plus our keeper should off been stronger
Second and Third have to agree with Craig, goalkeeper should do better.

I will cut him some slack but looking forward to Willis coming back.

Cant understand why so much negativity only 6 points off runaway leaders.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: youngchubby69 on November 01, 2018, 03:38:08 PM
How many games has he had to gel and get to know his team mates 2& bit that's all, how many has Willis had.
Cut the fella some slack,l don't believe that CE should be making comments about individual players like that either, let's hope it doesn't damage the confidence and moral of the team.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: green hats mate on November 01, 2018, 03:51:57 PM
When the manager comes out and says he should be doing better with all three I think its an open and shut case.

A bad night but he's human, we move on.

I'm with Ferret on he first goal , seeing the video I think many refs would have given a foul .

Brackley may think that Craigs first half tactics contributed more to their win than our goalie did .

As Andy says we move on ,     win at Ashton and all will be forgiven and forgotten .
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: Tash on November 01, 2018, 04:21:42 PM
All I will say on the subject is after watching him in the last two home games I can only remember him catching one cross. I’m with Craig on this one, wouldn’t surprise me if he fetched the young lad back from Cleethorpes.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: Dipdodah on November 01, 2018, 04:39:25 PM
All I will say on the subject is after watching him in the last two home games I can only remember him catching one cross. I’m with Craig on this one, wouldn’t surprise me if he fetched the young lad back from Cleethorpes.


Hence the ironic cheer when he did catch it.  The guy next to me said that the sarcastic cheer would really dent his confidence.  Not nice but a lot of fans were not impressed with his performance.  I hope it was just a glitch.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: oxo on November 01, 2018, 06:26:09 PM
Okay the lad was very poor but let us not forget if Willis hadn't been such a dick head at Darlington the lad would't have been playing anyway, Same goes for our centre half however the lad from Salford is way much better.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: southender on November 01, 2018, 09:49:26 PM
Right my first reaction was straight after the game, now after watching the highlights I haven't really changed my mind. I can't see any foul by the Brackley player on the keeper with our man just flapping around. At the time the referee just stood watching after the ball went in the net - almost as if he was looking for a reason not to give the goal but there was none and very little protest came from our players. The second, it was not his fault that the ball travelled as far as it did towards the goal but again his reaction when it came back off the woodwork was a half hearted swat before their man finished it off. For the third I was standing behind the player who took the shot and although a Boston defender was blocking a clear view of the ball it did go straight through him. If that were not enough he never looked confident all night and when he did come from the ball he seldom made a clean punch of the ball. Just looking at the other United defenders, they looked totally pissed off with him.

That said, yes not many of the team came out with much credit, in particular Thanoj gifted possession a number of times in dangerous positions. But it is the nature of the position of goalkeeper that mistakes are usually more highlighted and cost more. But we are where we are and Willis is not available for Saturday. Craig is not normally slow to deal with a problem but I am not sure we can recall the lad from Cleethorpes. So who thinks we should stick with Malkowski or look elsewhere even for one game. I know what I would do.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: youngchubby69 on November 02, 2018, 07:11:42 AM
Right my first reaction was straight after the game, now after watching the highlights I haven't really changed my mind. I can't see any foul by the Brackley player on the keeper with our man just flapping around. At the time the referee just stood watching after the ball went in the net - almost as if he was looking for a reason not to give the goal but there was none and very little protest came from our players. The second, it was not his fault that the ball travelled as far as it did towards the goal but again his reaction when it came back off the woodwork was a half hearted swat before their man finished it off. For the third I was standing behind the player who took the shot and although a Boston defender was blocking a clear view of the ball it did go straight through him. If that were not enough he never looked confident all night and when he did come from the ball he seldom made a clean punch of the ball. Just looking at the other United defenders, they looked totally pissed off with him.

That said, yes not many of the team came out with much credit, in particular Thanoj gifted possession a number of times in dangerous positions. But it is the nature of the position of goalkeeper that mistakes are usually more highlighted and cost more. But we are where we are and Willis is not available for Saturday. Craig is not normally slow to deal with a problem but I am not sure we can recall the lad from Cleethorpes. So who thinks we should stick with Malkowski or look elsewhere even for one game. I know what I would do.
Wasn't we all against Willis  a while ago, but now it seems he can do no wrong, if we are going to go by mistakes and not coming for crosses, Willis would have gone long ago.
The new keeper has a bad game, even though as l said earlier in this thread, how many games has he had to gel with his defence.
Surely you can't just get rid of a keeper just over one bad game, l think a reality check is needed here.
I agree with OXO if Willis hadn't got himself sent off for a needless challenge, the new keeper would still be getting to know his new teammates on and off the field.
Stick with him, he wasn't chosen to represent his country for being useless.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: holbeach 56 on November 02, 2018, 09:26:26 AM
Still not convinced at by Willis at all.

Over the years we have been blessed with some very good goal keepers , but the last decent one was Bazzer in my opinion.

Keeping is a specialised position and making use of a specialist scout may be money well spent before we get any more dodgy ones.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: Tash on November 02, 2018, 02:47:36 PM
Right my first reaction was straight after the game, now after watching the highlights I haven't really changed my mind. I can't see any foul by the Brackley player on the keeper with our man just flapping around. At the time the referee just stood watching after the ball went in the net - almost as if he was looking for a reason not to give the goal but there was none and very little protest came from our players. The second, it was not his fault that the ball travelled as far as it did towards the goal but again his reaction when it came back off the woodwork was a half hearted swat before their man finished it off. For the third I was standing behind the player who took the shot and although a Boston defender was blocking a clear view of the ball it did go straight through him. If that were not enough he never looked confident all night and when he did come from the ball he seldom made a clean punch of the ball. Just looking at the other United defenders, they looked totally pissed off with him.

That said, yes not many of the team came out with much credit, in particular Thanoj gifted possession a number of times in dangerous positions. But it is the nature of the position of goalkeeper that mistakes are usually more highlighted and cost more. But we are where we are and Willis is not available for Saturday. Craig is not normally slow to deal with a problem but I am not sure we can recall the lad from Cleethorpes. So who thinks we should stick with Malkowski or look elsewhere even for one game. I know what I would do.
Wasn't we all against Willis  a while ago, but now it seems he can do no wrong, if we are going to go by mistakes and not coming for crosses, Willis would have gone long ago.
The new keeper has a bad game, even though as l said earlier in this thread, how many games has he had to gel with his defence.
Surely you can't just get rid of a keeper just over one bad game, l think a reality check is needed here.
I agree with OXO if Willis hadn't got himself sent off for a needless challenge, the new keeper would still be getting to know his new teammates on and off the field.
Stick with him, he wasn't chosen to represent his country for being useless.


Sorry chubbs I’m with southender on this one, not playing regularly is no excuse for not being able to jump and catch a ball (which I have only seen him do once in two games). He does not command his six yard area and rarely collects any loose balls in the said area. The one thing that troubled me at the start of the season was the goal keeping position and I am still troubled.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: southender on November 02, 2018, 04:19:10 PM
My concern is that tomorrow's game is very winnable and I would hate for us to be undone by very dodgy goalkeeping we saw on Tuesday. If however he plays and saves a penalty in the 88th minute with the score at 0-0 and then goes up the other other end and scores with a diving header from a corner to win the game 1-0 deep into injury time I PROMISE to come on here and eat vast quantities of humble pie!
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: Ferret on November 02, 2018, 04:47:49 PM
and then goes up the other other end and scores with a diving header from a corner to win the game 1-0 deep into injury time

going up for a corner at 0-0.....now that would be dodgy keeping!
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: Ed Kandii on November 02, 2018, 07:44:51 PM
Who is this young lad on loan at Cleethorpes?   ???
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: Pilgrim86 on November 02, 2018, 08:11:00 PM
Who is this young lad on loan at Cleethorpes?   ???

Dylan Parkin, signed in the summer.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: Winging It on November 02, 2018, 10:27:01 PM
It's no surprise from me that the jury comes out after one game and condemns a player here at Boston. It's just the way it is with so many specialists in tactics, formations and individual players capabilities. We are blessed with such skills on the terraces  ::)  ;)
Joking apart, just how many games do you give a player to prove themselves ?
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: The Third Twin on November 03, 2018, 11:16:20 AM
I am a believer in first impressions, and on that count, his start hasn't been great. However, it does take time to settle in sometimes, and everybody can have a bad day at the office. Let's not forget it's not that long since we had a keeper warming up in a t shirt that said "I used to be shite, but now I'm a!right"! Oxo is right though that if GW hadn't been a dick at Darlo, then SM might not have even played. He's got a game today to redeem himself, so let's give him that chance. One thing for sure though, is CE will not hang onto him for too long if he isn't up to the job. The revolving door is always open....
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: holbeach 56 on November 03, 2018, 11:40:21 AM
Trouble is it's about time the revolving door stopped and we got a settled team. The top sides have a settled team only bringing people in when absolutely necessary.
The major signing of players should be done pre season and not just to make numbers up.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: green hats mate on November 03, 2018, 11:47:27 AM
Trouble is it's about time the revolving door stopped and we got a settled team. The top sides have a settled team only bringing people in when absolutely necessary.
The major signing of players should be done pre season and not just to make numbers up.

Correct H56 ,  no good lubricating the revolving door if you do not bring better players in .
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: Winging It on November 03, 2018, 02:39:12 PM
I agree with H52 too, remember a manager not so long ago got slated for being a 'tinkerman' with the revolving door, now seemingly, its acceptable, lol. We need a settled side from now on in.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: Ed Kandii on November 03, 2018, 03:02:31 PM
Slew gets his first start  8)
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Saturday
Post by: Pilgrim86 on November 03, 2018, 03:15:07 PM
Qualter - 35 yarder! 1-0