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The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Cavalier on October 20, 2018, 04:59:37 PM

Title: v Darlington
Post by: Cavalier on October 20, 2018, 04:59:37 PM
One down and Middleton sent off.
Willis now sent off so down to 9 men, but still trying to attack.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Cavalier on October 20, 2018, 05:01:17 PM
Full time - lost 1 - 0
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 20, 2018, 05:03:57 PM
Oh bugger, what the hell has gone wrong today, looking forward to a match report from a traveling fan today.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Artemis on October 20, 2018, 05:53:55 PM
Middleton has been sent off twice for stupid fouls.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Oakham Pilgrim on October 20, 2018, 06:50:04 PM
I'm afraid he gives the impression of being a hot head too often.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Greengrass on October 20, 2018, 07:10:49 PM
When I told Mrs Greengrass that Middleton was sent off for hacking down Elliott in the centre circle she just said " serves him right for straying out of his technical area so far " 😂😂😂
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: joshb on October 20, 2018, 07:19:29 PM
Didn't start great. They scored albeit with a bit of fortune as the lad missed a sitter at back post it hit the post and went in off our bloke
Then we went down to 10 wasn't really paying attention but it was a late tackle. Ref let their bloke get off no card for something not much better seconds earlier

2nd half we had enough ball, couple of efforts not far off then willis got a red and to be fair we all said red 5 seconds before he took the lad clean out

Frustrating as 11 v 11 we'd have probably got a result

Very disappointing
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: oxo on October 20, 2018, 08:36:06 PM
Well here goes. This was right up there with some of the worst football matches I have ever seen. Their goal early on was a bit of a fluke but also poor goalkeeping, I honestly thought we would recover from that and win against a very poor Darlington but hey we are Boston United and don't do come backs. I do though agree with Josh that had we had eleven for 90 minutes we would probably have got a result and there is the problem. Middletons dismissal was disgraceful on his part only a couple of minutes before his appalling two footed tackle he was extremely luck to avoid a yellow for a nasty tackle, and let us not try to make excuses for him as he came into this game only needing a yellow for a one match ban. We spend a lot of money travelling every week to support the team and deserve our players to be disciplined, He should have his wages stopped and be donated to my jam jar fund for the supporters. Moving on to our esteemed captain setting a fine example by hacking down a player 10 yards outside the box instead of running with him and keeping him on his outside. So another three match ban but look on the bright side we have a new keeper and hopefully he can cement his place in the team. Can anyone tell me why oh why does Craig persevere with Abbott when we have Nosher on the bench. It does appear last weeks 4-1 was a flash in the pan as the two big lads up front only flattered to deceive, Smithy never won a ball and was very disappointing in fairness only Ash Jackson did the business. Well there it is make of it what you will I will of course be there next week cheering them on.  UTP
PS Forgot to mention the man in black who was typically useless.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Boston forever on October 20, 2018, 08:42:45 PM
Strange how after a 4-0 win patter is relatively quiet all week then as soon as we loose, it springs to life again...
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 20, 2018, 09:36:33 PM
Well here goes. This was right up there with some of the worst football matches I have ever seen. Their goal early on was a bit of a fluke but also poor goalkeeping, I honestly thought we would recover from that and win against a very poor Darlington but hey we are Boston United and don't do come backs. I do though agree with Josh that had we had eleven for 90 minutes we would probably have got a result and there is the problem. Middletons dismissal was disgraceful on his part only a couple of minutes before his appalling two footed tackle he was extremely luck to avoid a yellow for a nasty tackle, and let us not try to make excuses for him as he came into this game only needing a yellow for a one match ban. We spend a lot of money travelling every week to support the team and deserve our players to be disciplined, He should have his wages stopped and be donated to my jam jar fund for the supporters. Moving on to our esteemed captain setting a fine example by hacking down a player 10 yards outside the box instead of running with him and keeping him on his outside. So another three match ban but look on the bright side we have a new keeper and hopefully he can cement his place in the team. Can anyone tell me why oh why does Craig persevere with Abbott when we have Nosher on the bench. It does appear last weeks 4-1 was a flash in the pan as the two big lads up front only flattered to deceive, Smithy never won a ball and was very disappointing in fairness only Ash Jackson did the business. Well there it is make of it what you will I will of course be there next week cheering them on.  UTP
PS Forgot to mention the man in black who was typically useless.
Oh dear,oh dear oh dear.
And that's all l have to say.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 20, 2018, 09:39:19 PM
Strange how after a 4-0 win patter is relatively quiet all week then as soon as we loose, it springs to life again...
That's the nature of us fickle fans,I am afraid .
But the most important thing is, that we are still here talking about and supporting them.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: The Third Twin on October 21, 2018, 09:18:32 AM
Strange how after a 4-0 win patter is relatively quiet all week then as soon as we loose, it springs to life again...
That's the nature of us fickle fans,I am afraid .
But the most important thing is, that we are still here talking about and supporting them.
it's a sad realty in life today. If you do something well, you seldom get told so, but do something badly, and 10 people will quickly tell you what went wrong, and what you should have done instead.

A loss may be disappointing, but we are still 2 points from 3rd place, and I for one will take that compared to this time last season. UTP.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 21, 2018, 09:33:21 AM
Spot on  TTT
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Tash on October 21, 2018, 10:20:15 AM
Strange how after a 4-0 win patter is relatively quiet all week then as soon as we loose, it springs to life again...
That's the nature of us fickle fans,I am afraid .
But the most important thing is, that we are still here talking about and supporting them.
it's a sad realty in life today. If you do something well, you seldom get told so, but do something badly, and 10 people will quickly tell you what went wrong, and what you should have done instead.


A loss may be disappointing, but we are still 2 points from 3rd place, and I for one will take that compared to this time last season. UTP.

My old boss once told me,if you want to be remembered make the biggest c@@k up you can😊
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: dt woodhall on October 21, 2018, 11:32:11 AM
Oxo you seem to have got it in for Abbott! I wasn't there yesterday so cannot comment on his performance but
you seem to have forgotten his great goal last week. I have previously been impressed with him and Andi
but I think we need to play 3 in midfield with Norris coming in to support them both. We often seem to be
up against sides that try to swamp midfield. I agree that a fresh goalkeeper will help and I would
like to see two quick forwards running off Allott, probably a mix of Johnson,Slew and Hine. A new centre half
would also help and make Davies captain as soon as possible.

No doubt everybody will have a go at that, but just my views
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: green hats mate on October 21, 2018, 03:43:03 PM
Oxo you seem to have got it in for Abbott! I wasn't there yesterday so cannot comment on his performance but
you seem to have forgotten his great goal last week. I have previously been impressed with him and Andi
but I think we need to play 3 in midfield with Norris coming in to support them both. We often seem to be
up against sides that try to swamp midfield. I agree that a fresh goalkeeper will help and I would
like to see two quick forwards running off Allott, probably a mix of Johnson,Slew and Hine. A new centre half
would also help and make Davies captain as soon as possible.

No doubt everybody will have a go at that, but just my views

  Agree with your comment on Abbott , like all players at any level he does have bad days but  I recall Mark Hone when commentating saying he had told Danny and Nicky Cowley they should take a look at Abbott and Thanoj.
CE must have a crystal ball having signed a goalie on Thursday . Let's hope the new man can establish the goal keeping place .     
Also right time to hand the captaincy to Davies .
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 21, 2018, 04:26:01 PM
Strange how after a 4-0 win patter is relatively quiet all week then as soon as we loose, it springs to life again...
That's the nature of us fickle fans,I am afraid .
But the most important thing is, that we are still here talking about and supporting them.
it's a sad realty in life today. If you do something well, you seldom get told so, but do something badly, and 10 people will quickly tell you what went wrong, and what you should have done instead.

A loss may be disappointing, but we are still 2 points from 3rd place, and I for one will take that compared to this time last season. UTP.
Very very true word's, it's a sad fact of life today.
Manners is a dying culture today, l work in such an environment, it's depressing and de motivated.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: brummie exile 1960 on October 22, 2018, 08:26:19 PM
Just watched a 12 minute clip on YouTube. Couple of comments. Middleton tried to "do" their player. You can see that clearly from the camera shot behind the goal. Willis had a bad day. I don't know why CE is unsure about his red card, it was blatant. Smith completely absent from highlights. Very disappointing.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: oxo on October 22, 2018, 08:58:04 PM
Just watched a 12 minute clip on YouTube. Couple of comments. Middleton tried to "do" their player. You can see that clearly from the camera shot behind the goal. Willis had a bad day. I don't know why CE is unsure about his red card, it was blatant. Smith completely absent from highlights. Very disappointing.


So brummie my report from Darlington was not far off the mark.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 22, 2018, 09:43:06 PM
Just watched a 12 minute clip on YouTube. Couple of comments. Middleton tried to "do" their player. You can see that clearly from the camera shot behind the goal. Willis had a bad day. I don't know why CE is unsure about his red card, it was blatant. Smith completely absent from highlights. Very disappointing.
Sorry l have to disagree with the Willis sending off, he clearly gets the ball before the Darlington player, and caught him after, which is a 50/50 challenge.
The Darlington player is heading towards the corner flag, and Jackson is clearly running in behind to cover Willis, so he can't be the last man.
The ref made a bad judgment, and we should appeal, and by the way, the Darlington player soon got up and ran towards Willis in a very aggressive manner after the red card was shown, and if the ref hadn't stopped him the player would have took retribution on Willis.
We won't appeal it though as it is too expensive.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: holbeach 56 on October 23, 2018, 12:10:32 AM
I think the Willis sending off may be a blessing in disguise if this new keeper is anything like. Playing in front of Willis must be a nerve jangling experience. His positioning is questionable a lot of the time and is no help with crosses.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Tash on October 23, 2018, 08:53:28 AM
Both nailed on reds for me, Willis chopped the lad in half wether he got the ball first or not is immaterial.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: The Third Twin on October 23, 2018, 12:00:35 PM
Both nailed on reds for me, Willis chopped the lad in half wether he got the ball first or not is immaterial.
i though when i watched the highlights that after the "challenge" their forward goes towards GW and the referee jumps between before he gets there to avoid a confrontation. my take on that is the forward is taking an issue with GW over the "tackle".
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: oxo on October 23, 2018, 03:52:30 PM
Just watched a 12 minute clip on YouTube. Couple of comments. Middleton tried to "do" their player. You can see that clearly from the camera shot behind the goal. Willis had a bad day. I don't know why CE is unsure about his red card, it was blatant. Smith completely absent from highlights. Very disappointing.
Sorry l have to disagree with the Willis sending off, he clearly gets the ball before the Darlington player, and caught him after, which is a 50/50 challenge.
The Darlington player is heading towards the corner flag, and Jackson is clearly running in behind to cover Willis, so he can't be the last man.
The ref made a bad judgment, and we should appeal, and by the way, the Darlington player soon got up and ran towards Willis in a very aggressive manner after the red card was shown, and if the ref hadn't stopped him the player would have took retribution on Willis.
We won't appeal it though as it is too expensive.

Bloody hell Chubby I thought it was bad enough on the day but the highlights show just how diabolical it was. It was and he is disgusting, Hope the new lad claims his place.  UTP
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 23, 2018, 06:30:49 PM
Just watched a 12 minute clip on YouTube. Couple of comments. Middleton tried to "do" their player. You can see that clearly from the camera shot behind the goal. Willis had a bad day. I don't know why CE is unsure about his red card, it was blatant. Smith completely absent from highlights. Very disappointing.
Sorry l have to disagree with the Willis sending off, he clearly gets the ball before the Darlington player, and caught him after, which is a 50/50 challenge.
The Darlington player is heading towards the corner flag, and Jackson is clearly running in behind to cover Willis, so he can't be the last man.
The ref made a bad judgment, and we should appeal, and by the way, the Darlington player soon got up and ran towards Willis in a very aggressive manner after the red card was shown, and if the ref hadn't stopped him the player would have took retribution on Willis.
We won't appeal it though as it is too expensive.

Bloody hell Chubby I thought it was bad enough on the day but the highlights show just how diabolical it was. It was and he is disgusting, Hope the new lad claims his place.  UTP
I like to look on the positive side LOL.
You are right about the new keeper though, he must have thought his Christmases had all come at once, when Willis was sent off.
Willis may be sat on the bench for a while now, wonder who will be the captain now?
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: green hats mate on October 23, 2018, 07:16:53 PM
When will the Willis ban start ?
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Cavalier on October 23, 2018, 10:08:07 PM
When will the Willis ban start ?

After this weekend, so Tues Oct 30 home to Brackley?
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 24, 2018, 10:53:06 AM
When will the Willis ban start ?

After this weekend, so Tues Oct 30 home to Brackley?

Nope, starts 7 days after the offence. Both Willis and Middleton will miss 3 games, according to the FA website.

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/suspensions - search for "Boston United" and then click "Awaiting Suspension". Intriguingly, Willis is only showing as "George" with no surname!
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Bostonshire on October 24, 2018, 11:54:27 AM
When will the Willis ban start ?

After this weekend, so Tues Oct 30 home to Brackley?

Nope, starts 7 days after the offence. Both Willis and Middleton will miss 3 games, according to the FA website.

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/suspensions - search for "Boston United" and then click "Awaiting Suspension". Intriguingly, Willis is only showing as "George" with no surname!

All Saturday football only. Think we should play on that and let them play Tuesday and just play ignorance
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: York Street Pilgrim on October 24, 2018, 07:25:16 PM
Middleton can't have been far off a suspension based on accrued yellow cards. Do they get wiped during his red-card ban, or are they still on his record?
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 24, 2018, 08:01:55 PM
He's on 4 yellows in the league (plus 1 in the FA Cup - is treated on its own for yellows this season, where 2 bookings = 1 game ban). Nuneaton, Alty, Curzon and Blyth.

Had he been booked before his straight red, he'd have been given an extra game ban. However, if he now avoids a booking until 1st December he'll have to have 10 bookings to be suspended (2 games - Telford and Southport).
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: joshb on October 24, 2018, 10:52:52 PM
If Nuneaton go bust does that yellow card get rescinded?
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 25, 2018, 10:35:40 AM
Nope! Weirdly, bookings and red cards don't get wiped out for abandoned and nulled games, but goals/results do!
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 25, 2018, 12:57:07 PM
having watched the video and agreeing sadly that both looked nailed on reds, to lose to an OG was bad. the thing that i really noticed was their ground. i wonder if thats what we have to look forward to in Wybo?
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 25, 2018, 01:08:38 PM
Theirs is a converted rugby ground, rather than a new build.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 25, 2018, 05:46:19 PM
having watched the video and agreeing sadly that both looked nailed on reds, to lose to an OG was bad. the thing that i really noticed was their ground. i wonder if thats what we have to look forward to in Wybo?
Have you looked at the submitted and approved plans for our new ground, it looks nothing like what they have got, and much superior.
Yes plans can change, but at a massive cost in time and money, and we have started building ours, so that means the contractor is building to the approved plans.
We will have a fantastic stadium to be proud of, the chestnuts will not let us down, they haven't so far.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 25, 2018, 06:20:38 PM
having watched the video and agreeing sadly that both looked nailed on reds, to lose to an OG was bad. the thing that i really noticed was their ground. i wonder if thats what we have to look forward to in Wybo?
Have you looked at the submitted and approved plans for our new ground, it looks nothing like what they have got, and much superior.
Yes plans can change, but at a massive cost in time and money, and we have started building ours, so that means the contractor is building to the approved plans.
We will have a fantastic stadium to be proud of, the chestnuts will not let us down, they haven't so far.
I have Chubby.. there at the launch with architects etc. Like you i would love to see it built as per plans... however... the sports hall i believe has been dropped. Possibly the 3g pitch has been put back...i know/believe there will be a new stadium.. just what shape it takes may be different to the plan...
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: oxo on October 25, 2018, 06:49:34 PM
having watched the video and agreeing sadly that both looked nailed on reds, to lose to an OG was bad. the thing that i really noticed was their ground. i wonder if thats what we have to look forward to in Wybo?
Have you looked at the submitted and approved plans for our new ground, it looks nothing like what they have got, and much superior.
Yes plans can change, but at a massive cost in time and money, and we have started building ours, so that means the contractor is building to the approved plans.
We will have a fantastic stadium to be proud of, the chestnuts will not let us down, they haven't so far.
I have Chubby.. there at the launch with architects etc. Like you i would love to see it built as per plans... however... the sports hall i believe has been dropped. Possibly the 3g pitch has been put back...i know/believe there will be a new stadium.. just what shape it takes may be different to the plan...

As I have said before Darlington is my least favorite ground. For those who have only seen it on the highlights the camera is located on a balcony above the Rugby clubhouse and dugouts which has little more than a footpath from which to view the game the whole length of the ground, the footpath continues the whole width of the pitch behind the goal (away end). The stand on the far side is the only seated area and is only half way line to away end. Behind the other goal is a bus stop type stand  (home end). So not one part of this sh%t hole is any thing like our new stadium will be.   UTP
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 25, 2018, 09:32:50 PM
having watched the video and agreeing sadly that both looked nailed on reds, to lose to an OG was bad. the thing that i really noticed was their ground. i wonder if thats what we have to look forward to in Wybo?
Have you looked at the submitted and approved plans for our new ground, it looks nothing like what they have got, and much superior.
Yes plans can change, but at a massive cost in time and money, and we have started building ours, so that means the contractor is building to the approved plans.
We will have a fantastic stadium to be proud of, the chestnuts will not let us down, they haven't so far.
I have Chubby.. there at the launch with architects etc. Like you i would love to see it built as per plans... however... the sports hall i believe has been dropped. Possibly the 3g pitch has been put back...i know/believe there will be a new stadium.. just what shape it takes may be different to the plan...

As I have said before Darlington is my least favorite ground. For those who have only seen it on the highlights the camera is located on a balcony above the Rugby clubhouse and dugouts which has little more than a footpath from which to view the game the whole length of the ground, the footpath continues the whole width of the pitch behind the goal (away end). The stand on the far side is the only seated area and is only half way line to away end. Behind the other goal is a bus stop type stand  (home end). So not one part of this sh%t hole is any thing like our new stadium will be.   UTP
What's the story behind their new ground Mel, didn't Mr Dodgy Sotnick go there as some sort of Director.
I am sure they had a much better ground than that before he went there.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Dipdodah on October 26, 2018, 08:11:16 AM
If I remember correct, they had the best ground in non league.  I believe it could hold way more fans than was needed, so was nearly empty all the time.  I think the man who invested in it was some guy called Reynolds.  I do remember Sotnic going there and taking  Jewey with him, after he had an outstanding game against them.  But my memory gets muddled, so ignore this post ;D ;D
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Pete B on October 26, 2018, 09:47:57 AM
If I remember correct, they had the best ground in non league.  I believe it could hold way more fans than was needed, so was nearly empty all the time.  I think the man who invested in it was some guy called Reynolds.  I do remember Sotnic going there and taking  Jewey with him, after he had an outstanding game against them.  But my memory gets muddled, so ignore this post ;D ;D

The best ground in non-league. Hmm. I know what you mean, but it was a depressing place, and a club averaging 1,500 in a 25,500 seat megabowl is always going to end up in trouble. It was a massive oversized folly tossed up by an ex-criminal, way too big for the club and also way too big for the local infrastructure since although it had 25k seats, the council restricted capacity to 10k so many of them have never had anyone sit in them!

It's called the Northern Echo Arena now and occupied by a rugby team I believe. I'd be amazed if it's not demolished within the next few years.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 26, 2018, 10:28:14 AM
Biggest dugouts in world football!
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Imp Stalker on October 26, 2018, 11:14:04 AM
I always like Feethams

Yeah it was a dump and the away end was basically condemned but it had a bit of character and was in the town centre.  Watching a Lee Thompson hattrick helps the memories too!
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: green hats mate on October 26, 2018, 01:11:30 PM
JJ scored a hat trick (I think)  against Darlo at YS and just after Darlo signed him for a reputed £100k.


Geo Reynolds was alleged to be a safe breaker by the press before his Darlo days .
I think it was about that time that a press report alleged the Police pulled him into a layby and asked him to open his car boot ,  this exposed £250k of cash ,  when asked to explain Reynolds replied  "don't lots of people carry a load of money in their car boot" ?
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Pete B on October 26, 2018, 01:36:09 PM
JJ scored a hat trick (I think)  against Darlo at YS and just after Darlo signed him for a reputed £100k.


Geo Reynolds was alleged to be a safe breaker by the press before his Darlo days .
I think it was about that time that a press report alleged the Police pulled him into a layby and asked him to open his car boot ,  this exposed £250k of cash ,  when asked to explain Reynolds replied  "don't lots of people carry a load of money in their car boot" ?

I remember that game, think there'd been a trust meeting before it or something and we ended up trashing 'em 4-0 or 4-1 or something.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Tash on October 26, 2018, 02:14:10 PM
JJ scored a hat trick (I think)  against Darlo at YS and just after Darlo signed him for a reputed £100k.


Geo Reynolds was alleged to be a safe breaker by the press before his Darlo days .
I think it was about that time that a press report alleged the Police pulled him into a layby and asked him to open his car boot ,  this exposed £250k of cash ,  when asked to explain Reynolds replied  "don't lots of people carry a load of money in their car boot" ?

I remember that game, think there'd been a trust meeting before it or something and we ended up trashing 'em 4-0 or 4-1 or something.

Remember the home fans lobbing hot dogs and other food items at us.
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: green hats mate on October 26, 2018, 05:48:22 PM
JJ scored a hat trick (I think)  against Darlo at YS and just after Darlo signed him for a reputed £100k.


Geo Reynolds was alleged to be a safe breaker by the press before his Darlo days .
I think it was about that time that a press report alleged the Police pulled him into a layby and asked him to open his car boot ,  this exposed £250k of cash ,  when asked to explain Reynolds replied  "don't lots of people carry a load of money in their car boot" ?

I remember that game, think there'd been a trust meeting before it or something and we ended up trashing 'em 4-0 or 4-1 or something.

Remember the home fans lobbing hot dogs and other food items at us.

What did the hot dogs tasty ?
Title: Re: v Darlington
Post by: Tash on October 26, 2018, 07:14:13 PM
JJ scored a hat trick (I think)  against Darlo at YS and just after Darlo signed him for a reputed £100k.


Geo Reynolds was alleged to be a safe breaker by the press before his Darlo days .
I think it was about that time that a press report alleged the Police pulled him into a layby and asked him to open his car boot ,  this exposed £250k of cash ,  when asked to explain Reynolds replied  "don't lots of people carry a load of money in their car boot" ?

I remember that game, think there'd been a trust meeting before it or something and we ended up trashing 'em 4-0 or 4-1 or something.

Remember the home fans lobbing hot dogs and other food items at us.

What did the hot dogs tasty ?

Believe you me Pete they were tasty you can’t let good food go to waste. Once they saw we were eating more than throwing back they called it a day😅.