Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: howmanynames2pick on September 22, 2018, 05:45:08 PM
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Peterborough "fans'
Foul mouthed
Foul behaviour.
Disgraceful..
If pushing stewards and slurs at players is your thing then get a life.
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Are we talking about our fans or there's.
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He does state "Peterborough "fans"".
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He does state "Peterborough "fans"".
Tbf ive edited it .. i hadnt put Peterborough initially as i didnt realise it would be in any doubt
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He does state "Peterborough "fans"".
Tbf ive edited it .. i hadnt put Peterborough initially as i didnt realise it would be in any doubt
No worries, l never bother to make an issue out of such trivial things.
One thing for sure is that the PS fans had more to sing about then we did.
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What was going on with Wafula?
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What was going on with Wafula?
To good in the air and wins far to many headers, and that just would be to obvious to play him.
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What was going on with Wafula?
Something obviously very unpleasant said at him...he wanted to give someone a slap.. needed dragging away...
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He was apparently called a black ####. Disgraceful, can't understand why the perpetrator wasn't kicked out.
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I have found the toilet rolls thrown are of good quality !
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He was apparently called a black ####. Disgraceful, can't understand why the perpetrator wasn't kicked out.
Should have been reported to the ref, and needs reporting to the club and police.
But won't be as we seem to be a club that doesn't rock the boat.
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Not on twitter but i believe wafula was asked to drive to police station and report it (arent there any plod in the ground?)
Early on they had started chucking toilet rolls AT players not just onto pitch. The stewards went in asked them to stop. I saw them being pushed about by the same group that started on Wafula later.
They should have been removed then
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No police at game until the end, then when they turned up they went to town end when it was kicking off at York street.
Watched the police car drive past ground down York street towards Eagles fish shop, must of been told they hadn’t sorted it as they came back 5 mins later.
During this time the gang of banned Peterborough United fans had verbally abused, threatened and pushed our stewards all wanting to fight anyone.
Why didn’t Police turn up before half time ?? Where was our community officer ??
Not sure why referee didn’t stop the game to find out what was happening during second half.
During the fracas at end a FA official was stood watching it all shaking his head so will be reported to powers at The FA.
Also spoke to a couple with their children, who where seated in York Street stand, it was them who told me they where banned Peterborough United fans.
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In the 20 odd years of going regular to games this is the worst behaviour i have witnessed.
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I really think the club have failed on so many levels here.
The stewarding is nothing short of disgraceful. They arbitrarily throw home fans out for minor misdemeanors but when a genuinely difficult situation arises they are nowhere to be seen. During the first half altercation on Saturday one steward could be seen trying to deal with that incident. Not only was this totally inadequate but it raises lots of safeguarding issues regarding his safety, why was only one man in that area when clearly there was a problem? What if they had started on him, what would the reaction time have been of his colleagues? Who is the safety officer now? Surely he should have been aware of the situation and sent reinforcements........it stinks of unprofessionalism.
As regards the Wafula incident obviously we dont know what was said but it obviously was of a very unsavoury nature to provoke such a reaction. Once again though there was the minimum of intervention from the stewards and it begs the question who made the decision not to properly steward that area.
After the game it appears there was an incident in the club. Again, who made the decision to allow away fans in after all that had gone on? Why were they not held back for a few minutes until our fans had dispersed and then escorted away from the ground?
Boston Utd have a duty of care to it's fans and it's players and sadly both were seriously lacking yesterday. Forget the result, this is really concerning to me and at a properly run club I'd expect an investigation into yesterday's shambles. Sally I imagine it'll be swept under the carpet and conveniently forgotten about.
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I really think the club have failed on so many levels here.
The stewarding is nothing short of disgraceful. They arbitrarily throw home fans out for minor misdemeanors but when a genuinely difficult situation arises they are nowhere to be seen. During the first half altercation on Saturday one steward could be seen trying to deal with that incident. Not only was this totally inadequate but it raises lots of safeguarding issues regarding his safety, why was only one man in that area when clearly there was a problem? What if they had started on him, what would the reaction time have been of his colleagues? Who is the safety officer now? Surely he should have been aware of the situation and sent reinforcements........it stinks of unprofessionalism.
As regards the Wafula incident obviously we dont know what was said but it obviously was of a very unsavoury nature to provoke such a reaction. Once again though there was the minimum of intervention from the stewards and it begs the question who made the decision not to properly steward that area.
After the game it appears there was an incident in the club. Again, who made the decision to allow away fans in after all that had gone on? Why were they not held back for a few minutes until our fans had dispersed and then escorted away from the ground?
Boston Utd have a duty of care to it's fans and it's players and sadly both were seriously lacking yesterday. Forget the result, this is really concerning to me and at a properly run club I'd expect an investigation into yesterday's shambles. Sally I imagine it'll be swept under the carpet and conveniently forgotten about.
Well said Andy very worrying but true word's.
I that you forward this to David Newton.
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I really think the club have failed on so many levels here.
The stewarding is nothing short of disgraceful. They arbitrarily throw home fans out for minor misdemeanors but when a genuinely difficult situation arises they are nowhere to be seen. During the first half altercation on Saturday one steward could be seen trying to deal with that incident. Not only was this totally inadequate but it raises lots of safeguarding issues regarding his safety, why was only one man in that area when clearly there was a problem? What if they had started on him, what would the reaction time have been of his colleagues? Who is the safety officer now? Surely he should have been aware of the situation and sent reinforcements........it stinks of unprofessionalism.
As regards the Wafula incident obviously we dont know what was said but it obviously was of a very unsavoury nature to provoke such a reaction. Once again though there was the minimum of intervention from the stewards and it begs the question who made the decision not to properly steward that area.
After the game it appears there was an incident in the club. Again, who made the decision to allow away fans in after all that had gone on? Why were they not held back for a few minutes until our fans had dispersed and then escorted away from the ground?
Boston Utd have a duty of care to it's fans and it's players and sadly both were seriously lacking yesterday. Forget the result, this is really concerning to me and at a properly run club I'd expect an investigation into yesterday's shambles. Sally I imagine it'll be swept under the carpet and conveniently forgotten about.
Well said Andy very worrying but true word's.
I that you forward this to David Newton.
I also agree. As I left the ground I asked who I believe to be a senior steward "why havent you done anything?" Meaning the away support "is that acceptable?".His only reply was "why don't you do it then? What's your name?". I was astounded by this response. He hadn't done his job, and when asked a perfectly reasonable question, considering the circumstances, his defence is to become aggressive towards a home fan. Sorry, this isn't on. I'm a season ticket holder who took his ten year old daughter to watch football. I don't want to be a steward, but I do expect those that we are to do their jobs, so my daughter (and I) don't need to be subjected to racial chanting and vile language for 90 minutes plus.
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The club have failed dismally here. I hope the Chairman will make some sort of statement?
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I think the club got caught out by how many they brought and the "quality " of what they brought.
There were a majority who conducted themselves ok BUT about maybe a dozen or so who let themselves, their club and football down.. i say "their club" it has been said they were banned Peterborough united "fans"
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Just seen this photo on twitter. The bloke was stood on the fence for what seemed like an eternity at the end of the game but I didn't realise it had been photographed. The stewards in the away end couldn't get him down. In that situation I didn't really understand why a lot of our other stewards were holding their positions in other areas of the ground which were free from trouble as opposed to moving across to help their colleagues deal with the trouble makers.
Equally I don't really want three of our first team squad having to step in to prevent a fourth from getting into a fight. No criticism of Jonathon Wafula who wad clearly provoked into losing his rag, but we don't want that kind of publicity nor the risk of our players being injured in fights with spectators. Stewards needed to be stepping forward at that point.
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Just seen this photo on twitter. The bloke was stood on the fence for what seemed like an eternity at the end of the game but I didn't realise it had been photographed. The stewards in the away end couldn't get him down. In that situation I didn't really understand why a lot of our other stewards were holding their positions in other areas of the ground which were free from trouble as opposed to moving across to help their colleagues deal with the trouble makers.
Equally I don't really want three of our first team squad having to step in to prevent a fourth from getting into a fight. No criticism of Jonathon Wafula who wad clearly provoked into losing his rag, but we don't want that kind of publicity nor the risk of our players being injured in fights with spectators. Stewards needed to be stepping forward at that point.
Those two on the front left were townenders a few seasons ago, I stood next to them !
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The problem crew were On The Fence Boy and to his left
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I really think the club have failed on so many levels here.
The stewarding is nothing short of disgraceful. They arbitrarily throw home fans out for minor misdemeanors but when a genuinely difficult situation arises they are nowhere to be seen. During the first half altercation on Saturday one steward could be seen trying to deal with that incident. Not only was this totally inadequate but it raises lots of safeguarding issues regarding his safety, why was only one man in that area when clearly there was a problem? What if they had started on him, what would the reaction time have been of his colleagues? Who is the safety officer now? Surely he should have been aware of the situation and sent reinforcements........it stinks of unprofessionalism.
As regards the Wafula incident obviously we dont know what was said but it obviously was of a very unsavoury nature to provoke such a reaction. Once again though there was the minimum of intervention from the stewards and it begs the question who made the decision not to properly steward that area.
After the game it appears there was an incident in the club. Again, who made the decision to allow away fans in after all that had gone on? Why were they not held back for a few minutes until our fans had dispersed and then escorted away from the ground?
Boston Utd have a duty of care to it's fans and it's players and sadly both were seriously lacking yesterday. Forget the result, this is really concerning to me and at a properly run club I'd expect an investigation into yesterday's shambles. Sally I imagine it'll be swept under the carpet and conveniently forgotten about.
Well said Andy very worrying but true word's.
I that you forward this to David Newton.
I also agree. As I left the ground I asked who I believe to be a senior steward "why havent you done anything?" Meaning the away support "is that acceptable?".His only reply was "why don't you do it then? What's your name?". I was astounded by this response. He hadn't done his job, and when asked a perfectly reasonable question, considering the circumstances, his defence is to become aggressive towards a home fan. Sorry, this isn't on. I'm a season ticket holder who took his ten year old daughter to watch football. I don't want to be a steward, but I do expect those that we are to do their jobs, so my daughter (and I) don't need to be subjected to racial chanting and vile language for 90 minutes plus.
Had that steward spoken to me like in that way I'd have taken a photo of him there and then and sent it to the club. And probably given him a few choice words of my own. Absolutely disgraceful response.
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The problem crew were On The Fence Boy and to his left
Were they the ones who shouting racial abuse.
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I really think the club have failed on so many levels here.
The stewarding is nothing short of disgraceful. They arbitrarily throw home fans out for minor misdemeanors but when a genuinely difficult situation arises they are nowhere to be seen. During the first half altercation on Saturday one steward could be seen trying to deal with that incident. Not only was this totally inadequate but it raises lots of safeguarding issues regarding his safety, why was only one man in that area when clearly there was a problem? What if they had started on him, what would the reaction time have been of his colleagues? Who is the safety officer now? Surely he should have been aware of the situation and sent reinforcements........it stinks of unprofessionalism.
As regards the Wafula incident obviously we dont know what was said but it obviously was of a very unsavoury nature to provoke such a reaction. Once again though there was the minimum of intervention from the stewards and it begs the question who made the decision not to properly steward that area.
After the game it appears there was an incident in the club. Again, who made the decision to allow away fans in after all that had gone on? Why were they not held back for a few minutes until our fans had dispersed and then escorted away from the ground?
Boston Utd have a duty of care to it's fans and it's players and sadly both were seriously lacking yesterday. Forget the result, this is really concerning to me and at a properly run club I'd expect an investigation into yesterday's shambles. Sally I imagine it'll be swept under the carpet and conveniently forgotten about.
Well said Andy very worrying but true word's.
I that you forward this to David Newton.
I also agree. As I left the ground I asked who I believe to be a senior steward "why havent you done anything?" Meaning the away support "is that acceptable?".His only reply was "why don't you do it then? What's your name?". I was astounded by this response. He hadn't done his job, and when asked a perfectly reasonable question, considering the circumstances, his defence is to become aggressive towards a home fan. Sorry, this isn't on. I'm a season ticket holder who took his ten year old daughter to watch football. I don't want to be a steward, but I do expect those that we are to do their jobs, so my daughter (and I) don't need to be subjected to racial chanting and vile language for 90 minutes plus.
Had that steward spoken to me like in that way I'd have taken a photo of him there and then and sent it to the club. And probably given him a few choice words of my own. Absolutely disgraceful response.
I know who he is. I'm willing to give the club a chance to respond publicly to this incident, and the inefficiencies (IMO) of the stewarding. If I need to name him, I will.
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The police have arrested someone regarding the racist abuse.
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The problem crew were On The Fence Boy and to his left
Were they the ones who shouting racial abuse.
these were the group Wafula seemed most interested in !
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(https://i.postimg.cc/0KK7HtJB/IMG_20180923_185734.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0KK7HtJB)
Just seen this photo on twitter. The bloke was stood on the fence for what seemed like an eternity at the end of the game but I didn't realise it had been photographed. The stewards in the away end couldn't get him down. In that situation I didn't really understand why a lot of our other stewards were holding their positions in other areas of the ground which were free from trouble as opposed to moving across to help their colleagues deal with the trouble makers.
Equally I don't really want three of our first team squad having to step in to prevent a fourth from getting into a fight. No criticism of Jonathon Wafula who wad clearly provoked into losing his rag, but we don't want that kind of publicity nor the risk of our players being injured in fights with spectators. Stewards needed to be stepping forward at that point.
By the look of some of them there is a lot of inbreeding going on!
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I really think the club have failed on so many levels here.
The stewarding is nothing short of disgraceful. They arbitrarily throw home fans out for minor misdemeanors but when a genuinely difficult situation arises they are nowhere to be seen. During the first half altercation on Saturday one steward could be seen trying to deal with that incident. Not only was this totally inadequate but it raises lots of safeguarding issues regarding his safety, why was only one man in that area when clearly there was a problem? What if they had started on him, what would the reaction time have been of his colleagues? Who is the safety officer now? Surely he should have been aware of the situation and sent reinforcements........it stinks of unprofessionalism.
As regards the Wafula incident obviously we dont know what was said but it obviously was of a very unsavoury nature to provoke such a reaction. Once again though there was the minimum of intervention from the stewards and it begs the question who made the decision not to properly steward that area.
After the game it appears there was an incident in the club. Again, who made the decision to allow away fans in after all that had gone on? Why were they not held back for a few minutes until our fans had dispersed and then escorted away from the ground?
Boston Utd have a duty of care to it's fans and it's players and sadly both were seriously lacking yesterday. Forget the result, this is really concerning to me and at a properly run club I'd expect an investigation into yesterday's shambles. Sally I imagine it'll be swept under the carpet and conveniently forgotten about.
Well said Andy very worrying but true word's.
I that you forward this to David Newton.
I also agree. As I left the ground I asked who I believe to be a senior steward "why havent you done anything?" Meaning the away support "is that acceptable?".His only reply was "why don't you do it then? What's your name?". I was astounded by this response. He hadn't done his job, and when asked a perfectly reasonable question, considering the circumstances, his defence is to become aggressive towards a home fan. Sorry, this isn't on. I'm a season ticket holder who took his ten year old daughter to watch football. I don't want to be a steward, but I do expect those that we are to do their jobs, so my daughter (and I) don't need to be subjected to racial chanting and vile language for 90 minutes plus.
Pretty sure I was stood nearby as this exchange was going on. It corroborated the impression I’ve had for a while (without much particular evidence) that the stewarding at YS has become rather complacent, with an attitude of ‘I’ve been doing this for 15 years, I know best, nobody can question me.’
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The Peterborough Evening Telegraph is reporting an arrest has been made today.
TEP
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Peterborough Sports fans at York Street last year:
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Peterborough Sports fans at AFC Fylde yesterday:
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