Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Tash on September 22, 2018, 03:40:17 PM
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Not going well at the moment 0-2
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A shot on target at 65 mins!
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Too much chopping and changing! Prob losing the dressing room..
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Taxi for Mr Elliott
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Another FA cup money spinner gone!
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Does the manager know what he's doing?
Two examples:
1) Smith was surplus to requirements - but now back
2) Willis dropped and not deemed good enough. Then made skipper
All seems a bit strange to me. Budget keeps going up and up. Not much progress in the last two seasons as far as I can see
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The desperation is making things unsettled. Signing the likes of Smith is pure desperation to find a fix for the goal drought. We had good players who needed more time to get and make things work. But I now imagine the mood in the dressing room is low and no one knows what they expect from any other player or manager. After this amount of games we should now be putting all the wrongs right and pushing on. I feel that we are still in pre-season mode but with a desperate dressing room with low moral.
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That was disgraceful. Outplayed and out fought by a lower league team. No skill, no fight, no nouse. Was Arnold actually playing today? This was a player who helped Lincoln do great things and yet he can't get a kick against Peterborough Sports!!! Big name players on the bench....again they should be lighting up this league, but clearly can't be bothered.
I was a big fan of CE, but am afraid it's wearing very thin.
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Harsh but I think elliot has to go. He doesnt know his team, there isnt any organisation or discipline in the team either.
Several players out of their depth too, Harris not a clue and certainly not a midfielder - walker tries but thats it - average at best.
Elliot has had long enough to know his best side, today was dreadful. I think.there is more going on behind the scenes, how a team like us can be so disorganised its beyond me.
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Totally with you Stevie. So i dont get personal the number 7 and 9 are totally, without doubt, out of there depth, no balls no aggression and used to some fancy academy football. Nicky is a winger, and you look at the career goals of those three its awful, on the bench three forwards with a goal ratio to die for, although not on fire at the minute.
Passes all over the place Arnold clearing taking the pxxs, and we never looked like scoring. Yes I love Gregs attitude and Norris still is quality, but these arent progressive signings. We were at home and it felt like they were better supported, more up for it. Hilliard who I always rated had space and time, and Jonesy never looked troubled up top, and they fully deserved the win full stop.
So Craig needs to sort whatever is going on behind the scenes and watch some of the dross on offer today on video, as im absolutlely livid on the total lack of bottle on show today. Worst display since Tommy Taylor days. Im off out again, rant over.
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Well, in over 50 years supporting the Club, that first half had to rank amongst the worst. Nathan Arnold had no control of the ball whatsoever, and his lack of INTEREST, never mind passion, was obvious to everyone in the ground. Ben Middleton missed almost everything that came his way and couldn't direct a ball to a yellow shirt. Our corners and free kicks evaded our players throughout the match. This was the match for which the word abysmal was thought up!
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If id of performed.to the same level at my work as these did today id of got the sack.
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I thought that the "golden rule" of football coaching was to "always play to your strengths" {?}…
So weve got the smallest forward line EVER and we continue to hump the ball in the air at EVERY opportunity! WHY???
This is a serious point Im making here,and I wonder how our manager would explain it.?
We hardly won any aerial challenges today {AGAIN ! }.
iTS BAFFALLING!
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Hilliard was the best midfielder on the park until Nosher came on. A Thanoj/Norris midfield partnership would be worth a try. Abbott was anonymous today.
Second half was better, but that wasn't difficult :'(
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I got slammed on here last week for even suggesting that CE position might be under threat by OXO and some others.
So I am not going to comment on that this week.
A very poor performance from so many out there today.
I just can't get my head round why after the dismal performance from both of the Grimsby lads last week, why he played them again.
We have options in those positions, Wafula,Johnson, Marriott and Margets. Walker need's to get out on the wing, he is not a Striker full stop.
Sorry but why would you play virtually the fecking team out there that performed so bad the week before.
A change of manager at this time is not the answer, let's see what Greg and Nosher bring to the team in the next few weeks.
I thought both of them played well today and added some bite and know how.
Mark Jones and Lewis Hilliard were outstanding today for PS.
It hurts today but we were beaten by a better side who played football mainly on the floor and took there chances.
Good luck to them in the next round.
I have to say this though to CE and surely be an X striker himself he must know that, strikers only get their form back by playing and not sat on the bench.
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I got slammed on here last week for even suggesting that CE position might be under threat by OXO and some others.
So I am not going to comment on that this week.
A very poor performance from so many out there today.
I just can't get my head round why after the dismal performance from both of the Grimsby lads last week, why he played them again.
We have options in those positions, Wafula,Johnson, Marriott and Margets. Walker need's to get out on the wing, he is not a Striker full stop.
Sorry but why would you play virtually the fecking team out there that performed so bad the week before.
A change of manager at this time is not the answer, let's see what Greg and Nosher bring to the team in the next few weeks.
I thought both of them played well today and added some bite and know how.
Mark Jones and Lewis Hilliard were outstanding today for PS.
It hurts today but we were beaten by a better side who played football mainly on the floor and took there chances.
Good luck to them in the next round.
I have to say this though to CE and surely be an X striker himself he must know that, strikers only get their form back by playing and not sat on the bench.
I'm with you on this. But did the loan deal for the Grimsby lads state that we have to play them for a certain amount of time, if so, then tear it up and send them back 'cos this is a league too far for them. Why do we never have a player stood at the back of the box for the over-played corners or flick-ons from the box!
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where to start? other that to agree with most comments so far. This is Graham Drury standard BUFC football.
1. Passes from defence and midfield were just desparate hoofs to anywhere up the pitch but rarely to a BUFC body
2. I think we won no crossed balls in their box until Greg came on and even then they were mainly off target (a point GS raised in his post-match interview on BBC)
3. Our defence looks like it can't be bothered most of the time. In contrast the no.s 4 and 5 central pairing for PS were awesome, bossed their own box completely; better than any of the defenders we had today. Bet they would not move from PS to BUFC even if asked.
4. I've been pretty loyal to Craig so far, but it's as if he's run out of ideas. Sure Nosher looks like he'll be a quality signing, and whilst we all love GS to bits for his effort and personality, he don't look fit and I feel it's a signing borne out of desperation as much as an eye for talent.
5. In his own post-match interview Criag stated that more than a few players have been told or will be told to move on; that he'd rather work with lower quality players that try hard and do what's asked of them, than expensive showboats that won't out in the hard yards. I fear this has to happen fast or it will be Craig himself who is asked to move on.
6. True our league position is still ok and yes we have gone out of the FA cup (but hardly different in that respect to many previous seasons. What really rattles me now though is the sense of panic and lack of cohesion that is beginning to surface behind the scenes.
7. Finally today was an insult to fans who turn up and pay extra money (over and above the season ticket, the teamsheet draws, the golden goals etc.). An embarrassment even if I can't spell it right.
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something defo wrong behind the scenes..
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Signings are judged on how the players perform on the pitch , not what it says on their CV's
How many of CE signings have performed good enough to hold down a place in a team with p/o asperations ?
I expressed the same after match as Prof …..This is Graham Drury standard BUFC football.
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After listening to Craig's interview, sadly he is really showing the pressure of management.
We have a very good manager but l feel he needs help in trying to motivate the player's.
We need to change the captain now, the leader needs to be an outfield player.
Everyone l spoke to today said the same thing, for me it's got be Ben Davies.
I do think that Ben Middleton needs to grow up, his attitude when walking off at the end of the game was very childish.
But to be fair to our defence today, they had a torrid time because the rest of the team were poor and they were under pressure most of time, because the midfield and forward line couldn't hold onto the ball long enough.
That did improve in the second half though.
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Agree that it was total garbage today but I did spot a couple of positives. The first was the removal of Abbot at half time what a liability that lad is however, his replacement was just what this team needs I hope Nosher quashed a few doubts he looked highly capable of being the proper mid fielder we are pining for, not scared of a tackle both ways, comfortable on the ball and posesses a lovely pass. I agree Arnold looked dis interested but the quality of all his corners were superb but we have nobody to attack them so you think if Smith was to come on he would have a chance, what happens? Arnold goes off. Our central defenders were awful Middleton looked as if he would have a nervous breakdown every time the ball came towards him and Qualter looks like and moves about as quick as a butchers dog. Thank goodness our next game is away as York Street doesn't deserve this. Will report back from that game, better leave it at that.
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i still think Elliot is the right man for the job he just has to find the right formation. if we could possibly get Hemmings and Thompson back and Rhead on loan from Lincoln we could still be up there .
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i still think Elliot is the right man for the job he just has to find the right formation. if we could possibly get Hemmings and Thompson back and Rhead on loan from Lincoln we could still be up there .
No chance of Rhead from Lincoln . Very little chance of Hemmings .
Craigs biggest task is to get rid of the expensive dross he signed in the summer .
Listening to Craig on BBC Lincs tonight I would not be surprised to see Arnold shown the door this week .
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Anyone know why Darren Smith is not assisting Elliott this season. Maybe he was the motivator and the person to help Elliott get the best from the players. From Elliott's interviews he is hurting just like us. Hopefully he can get rid of the hangers on and rebuild like he did last November.
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Like a lot of BUFC fans, I have not a clue what will happen next.
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Like a lot of BUFC fans, I have not a clue what will happen next.
You have summed it in just one sentence.
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Wind back almost two years
The likes of Gatter batchelor robinson maguire Hilliard yeomans brown durrant smith vince marshall all got stick
In truth the current crop are much higher paid and no better. In fact the above shade this lot for 100% effort
Discuss
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Didn’t go today after hospital treatment, but I think this match was a water shed for the manager and there will be big changes afoot.
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First of all, I didn't see today's game, I was in Birmingham. I did trawl throu
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CONTINUED.{ i have no idea what happened]. I read Craig's Twitter feed and it didn't smell good. The problem is recent s*i*e signings. I was tempted to say so after the Leamington defeat, but kept my mouth shut. I STILL trust trust CE to sort it out , but fear I could be one of the last 50 thanes that were hacked to bits before the Normans got to Harold.
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Wind back almost two years
The likes of Gatter batchelor robinson maguire Hilliard yeomans brown durrant smith vince marshall all got stick
In truth the current crop are much higher paid and no better. In fact the above shade this lot for 100% effort
Discuss
Agree with that T &J ! Your afore mentioned were decent players. I cannot get to home games at no due to work commitments in Scotland. But I will go with apparently the most influential player on pitch yesterday Lewis Hilliard. If anyone wants to dig any of my posts out 're his time with us....crack on. We should/could have built a team around him!! CREDIT to DG for bringing probably one of the most skilful creative goalscoring attacking midfielders at this level. Yet DG and then Murray both castigated him for lack of work rate in a defensive midfield role they shackled him with? After his display against curzon Murray said he should be playing in League 2.....we no the rest!! I don't think the recent seasons mediocrity is about the ability of players it's the ability of managers to get the max out of them.gala fairydean
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Wind back almost two years
The likes of Gatter batchelor robinson maguire Hilliard yeomans brown durrant smith vince marshall all got stick
In truth the current crop are much higher paid and no better. In fact the above shade this lot for 100% effort
Discuss
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Wonder how well paid Marriot and Margetts are compared to Southwell, Miller and Newsham ?
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Due to the yobs in visiting stand corner I moved Spayne Rd corner of ground and spotted a few familiar old faces from days I was a regular there .
Disappointed my old mate dt Woodhall has not come on to give his opinion of the present team and management .
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Here is the link to my public Facebook photo album with some snaps from the game:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10156722735564282&type=1&l=565426dacf (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10156722735564282&type=1&l=565426dacf)
Lots of snaps of Gregg Smith in the second half as the tactic seemed to be to get the ball to him as much as possible.
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Here is the link to my public Facebook photo album with some snaps from the game:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10156722735564282&type=1&l=565426dacf (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10156722735564282&type=1&l=565426dacf)
Lots of snaps of Gregg Smith in the second half as the tactic seemed to be to get the ball to him as much as possible.
like him or otherwise, at least we had a target second half, so no wonder he appears often!
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It baffles me how talented well paid players can often appear uninterested & totally unmotivated?? We have seen more than enough of that with the sides the 2 most recent managers have fielded! Once again a decent chance to progress in the FA Cup disappears at home with only the slightest sound of a whimper. Oh the cash would have been great for us 2!!
A few of us from work went to watch Gala (shiels) Fairydean Rivers play Lossiemouth yesterday in the 1st round of the Scottish Cup. They made it such an occasion....under 16's in free....they had the Scottish Cup there from Hampden so kids could get photo took with it. Lossiemouth from the highland league are a bigger wealthier outfit but Gala were at home had the crowd behind them & they just totally went for the jugular from first whistle. The football was all on the deck & I was v impressed with the standard of play. Gala routed them 6-0 . Importantly some of the players on both sides are on expenses only based contracts....no money in scottish non league....but the quality of these players is right up there!! So big wages fees etc isn't always the answer.
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It baffles me how talented well paid players can often appear uninterested & totally unmotivated?? We have seen more than enough of that with the sides the 2 most recent managers have fielded! Once again a decent chance to progress in the FA Cup disappears at home with only the slightest sound of a whimper. Oh the cash would have been great for us 2!!
A few of us from work went to watch Gala (shiels) Fairydean Rivers play Lossiemouth yesterday in the 1st round of the Scottish Cup. They made it such an occasion....under 16's in free....they had the Scottish Cup there from Hampden so kids could get photo took with it. Lossiemouth from the highland league are a bigger wealthier outfit but Gala were at home had the crowd behind them & they just totally went for the jugular from first whistle. The football was all on the deck & I was v impressed with the standard of play. Gala routed them 6-0 . Importantly some of the players on both sides are on expenses only based contracts....no money in scottish non league....but the quality of these players is right up there!! So big wages fees etc isn't always the answer.
Sounds good Champs , I afraid the FA Cup would not have raised the asperations of many of our players yesterday .
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Here’s the team from Murray’s first game
Hundreds of thousands of pounds have gone out of the club since. Is the club any further forward on the pitch?
Boston (4-1-2-1-2): Ross Durrant; Kalern Thomas, Josh Robinson, Joe Maguire, Ben Gordon; Charlie Gatter; Callum Chippendale (Ben Clappison 36), Lewis Hilliard (Lamin Colley 77); Marcus Marshall (Jason St Juste 88); Jay Rollins, Gregg Smith. Subs (not used): Waide Fairhurst, Michael Emery (gk).
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It baffles me how talented well paid players can often appear uninterested & totally unmotivated?? We have seen more than enough of that with the sides the 2 most recent managers have fielded! Once again a decent chance to progress in the FA Cup disappears at home with only the slightest sound of a whimper. Oh the cash would have been great for us 2!!
A few of us from work went to watch Gala (shiels) Fairydean Rivers play Lossiemouth yesterday in the 1st round of the Scottish Cup. They made it such an occasion....under 16's in free....they had the Scottish Cup there from Hampden so kids could get photo took with it. Lossiemouth from the highland league are a bigger wealthier outfit but Gala were at home had the crowd behind them & they just totally went for the jugular from first whistle. The football was all on the deck & I was v impressed with the standard of play. Gala routed them 6-0 . Importantly some of the players on both sides are on expenses only based contracts....no money in scottish non league....but the quality of these players is right up there!! So big wages fees etc isn't always the answer.
Sounds good Champs , I afraid the FA Cup would not have raised the asperations of many of our players yesterday .
None of it adds up GHM....I know there have been a few decent results away so far....but this awful home run is starting to look like Murray's dreadful run last season with attitudes & performances to match. This is not as simple as a sad coincidence anybody put their finger on what's causing this apathy ??
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Manager has no experience at Step 2 I'm afraid
No experience motivating well paid players many of whom have played higher
That said, it is his team. Not anyone else's. Week after week more and more players come in. It's just a revolving door at the club
Players play best in a settled side with a settled shape and the same people around them. Is anyone out there convinced the manager knows his best team or best formation because it doesn't look that way to be. Just lumping it will get you nowhere in this league
Massive wage bill, big squad and I don't personally think there's been much on field improvement since Murray came in
Know your best 11, make sure they know the shape you want and stick with them for a while
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have a clear out like boston town have dun and, they did ok yesterday
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I'm with you Champs, I always thought we should have kept Hilliard, told to do what he wants and get someone else to do his share of the donkey work...
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Don't like to disappoint you GHM. Sounds to me as I was listening to the manager on the radio going home to Woodhall that he is as shocked and fed up as the rest of the fans. It also sounds as if several of the existing squad better start looking for new clubs!
Confidence is a wonderful thing, and for some reason it just seems to have left these players. Could just be a home thing as they seem to play well away from home, but these last 4 home games have been pitiful. Cant see where the next goal is coming from and changes must be made.
1 -- Everybody thought CE was the best thing since sliced bread last year and that the squad assembled this year was full of potential. Started well and now at home we look useless. Still think Craig is our best bet at moment, but needs to review tactics asap. Agree with others Davies has been best player over last few home games, we need an outfield captain, so make him captain. I disagree with OXO ( not very often but on this occasion I do) on Abbott and Thanoj, they have been very good up until now, but often get overrun in midfield because of other sides playing 3 in midfield,we need to do the same. I dont like players coming back to clubs, but short term Norris coming back could help that by playing those three in midfield.
2 -- We have skilfull players in the club, but play them in the right position, lots seem to be out of position eg Walker. Why we have to continually play the long ball down to oppositions hugh centre backs I shall never know, play diagonal balls to utilise the pace in the team and as I have said many times play it on the ground. Sides in this league do not like pace against them!
3 -- Loan players have potential, but in my view the current ones are not right for us in this physical league. Ernie and I were talking about this, dont know if the loan deal specifies they have to play 60 mins etc, but that is no good. I think they should all go back.
4 -- Re those sat on the bench that we all thought should be playing well for us-- we all know who they are, I would start them all for 2 or 3 games and if they still under perform or cant be bothered, then I would get rid of them straight away.
5 --Generally I do not like players coming back to clubs after they have left. They left for a reason, usually because we can get in better players. The current ones probably excluding Norris smack of panic and desperation. We know we need some new players, but why panic and bring in or back the wrong ones.
I still think the basics are right, but tactics must change, players that continue to under perform or disappoint must be shown the door, and we must support the manager and the team he selects 100%. If this all fails then we have to look to change it at the top but not before.
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Spot on DT
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In his interview CE says he needs to surround himself with players he can trust
Implying he doesn't trust the players he's bought in. If that is the case then it's his flawed recruitment or that of whoever is doing the recruiting that is causing the problems
So the recruitment seems to have been wrong. And the motivation is clearly wrong. Besides selecting the shape, what more does the manager do? So on two out of three jobs CE is found wanting. This is a different level from where he's been at before and he seems to not quite be up to the job at the minute
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It baffles me how talented well paid players can often appear uninterested & totally unmotivated?? We have seen more than enough of that with the sides the 2 most recent managers have fielded! Once again a decent chance to progress in the FA Cup disappears at home with only the slightest sound of a whimper. Oh the cash would have been great for us 2!!
A few of us from work went to watch Gala (shiels) Fairydean Rivers play Lossiemouth yesterday in the 1st round of the Scottish Cup. They made it such an occasion....under 16's in free....they had the Scottish Cup there from Hampden so kids could get photo took with it. Lossiemouth from the highland league are a bigger wealthier outfit but Gala were at home had the crowd behind them & they just totally went for the jugular from first whistle. The football was all on the deck & I was v impressed with the standard of play. Gala routed them 6-0 . Importantly some of the players on both sides are on expenses only based contracts....no money in scottish non league....but the quality of these players is right up there!! So big wages fees etc isn't always the answer.
Went to gala to see east Stirling in February. Decent community setup even if their ground is limited in structure
Then again there was barely 100 there that day!
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I tend to come on to the forum and have a look at the various comments made by fans on players, the manager, the team, the tactics etc, but never post.
This is my first post so I’ll get my tin hat on now as no doubt some fans will disagree with my perspective, however I accept that, as it is all about opinions on how we as individuals see things.
When CE was unveiled as the manager I have to be honest and say he was not whom I would have appointed, but we had to trust the chairman and the board in appointing him, and having looked at his track record, I thought give him time to settle in, build his own team and see how things progress.
For me the team has not developed or improved since he took over, his signings and team selection are erratic, players are played out of position and where players under perform rather than working with them and understanding why or what the cause is, he shows them the door. I do wonder how you get a team to gel or foster team spirit when there is such a rotation of players in and out of the club.
I also believe CE is a manager who does not know his best team, the formation to play them in, how to change a game when things aren't working, tactics to use and how to motivate. We might have good spells but we have no consistency and that is what is required to win a title or at least get us into the play offs. For me sadly we will never win this league with him in charge because of the aforementioned. A lot of fans keep believing he has the ability to turn around, do fans not realise the fact, it’s his team selection/tactics that are causing the inconsistency in the first place?
Football managers/coaches at this level have to have several key things to succeed, tactical awareness, the ability to change things during a game and good man management skills. I think he lacks those skills, the latter opinion comes from a few things I have heard from former players, as well as just general observations during a game along with his responses after some games. It's a pity, but he just doesn't inspire me and I cannot go on accepting his usual post match comments of players not good enough etc; he brought them to the club, coach them, manage them, analyse the issues, resolve issues don’t just show them the door.
Finally I believe the manager has run his course at Bufc, the inconsistency, the standard of football, continual movement of players in and out is simply not acceptable. He’s been here long enough and my patience is wearing thin as I don’t see progress. I honestly can’t see CE taking us any further and he needs to be replaced. We need a new management team with fresh ideas.
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It baffles me how talented well paid players can often appear uninterested & totally unmotivated?? We have seen more than enough of that with the sides the 2 most recent managers have fielded! Once again a decent chance to progress in the FA Cup disappears at home with only the slightest sound of a whimper. Oh the cash would have been great for us 2!!
A few of us from work went to watch Gala (shiels) Fairydean Rivers play Lossiemouth yesterday in the 1st round of the Scottish Cup. They made it such an occasion....under 16's in free....they had the Scottish Cup there from Hampden so kids could get photo took with it. Lossiemouth from the highland league are a bigger wealthier outfit but Gala were at home had the crowd behind them & they just totally went for the jugular from first whistle. The football was all on the deck & I was v impressed with the standard of play. Gala routed them 6-0 . Importantly some of the players on both sides are on expenses only based contracts....no money in scottish non league....but the quality of these players is right up there!! So big wages fees etc isn't always the answer.
Went to gala to see east Stirling in February. Decent community setup even if their ground is limited in structure
Then again there was barely 100 there that day!
Half the problem in the borders Josh is folk have very little disposable income! 8 quid is actually a lot to most people up here to watch a Lowland League game! Yesterday when u paid u got a free ticket for Galas next home league game!! Their local rivals Selkirk sadly folded on 15 August gone....ironically the Selkirk/Gala derby should have been played the following Saturday. I would say there was about 8/900 there yesterday kids were free & with the 6 grand prize money for winning a real shot in the arm for as u rightly say a club right at the heart of it's community.
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Don't like to disappoint you GHM. Sounds to me as I was listening to the manager on the radio going home to Woodhall that he is as shocked and fed up as the rest of the fans. It also sounds as if several of the existing squad better start looking for new clubs!
Confidence is a wonderful thing, and for some reason it just seems to have left these players. Could just be a home thing as they seem to play well away from home, but these last 4 home games have been pitiful. Cant see where the next goal is coming from and changes must be made.
1 -- Everybody thought CE was the best thing since sliced bread last year and that the squad assembled this year was full of potential. Started well and now at home we look useless. Still think Craig is our best bet at moment, but needs to review tactics asap. Agree with others Davies has been best player over last few home games, we need an outfield captain, so make him captain. I disagree with OXO ( not very often but on this occasion I do) on Abbott and Thanoj, they have been very good up until now, but often get overrun in midfield because of other sides playing 3 in midfield,we need to do the same. I dont like players coming back to clubs, but short term Norris coming back could help that by playing those three in midfield.
2 -- We have skilfull players in the club, but play them in the right position, lots seem to be out of position eg Walker. Why we have to continually play the long ball down to oppositions hugh centre backs I shall never know, play diagonal balls to utilise the pace in the team and as I have said many times play it on the ground. Sides in this league do not like pace against them!
3 -- Loan players have potential, but in my view the current ones are not right for us in this physical league. Ernie and I were talking about this, dont know if the loan deal specifies they have to play 60 mins etc, but that is no good. I think they should all go back.
4 -- Re those sat on the bench that we all thought should be playing well for us-- we all know who they are, I would start them all for 2 or 3 games and if they still under perform or cant be bothered, then I would get rid of them straight away.
5 --Generally I do not like players coming back to clubs after they have left. They left for a reason, usually because we can get in better players. The current ones probably excluding Norris smack of panic and desperation. We know we need some new players, but why panic and bring in or back the wrong ones.
I still think the basics are right, but tactics must change, players that continue to under perform or disappoint must be shown the door, and we must support the manager and the team he selects 100%. If this all fails then we have to look to change it at the top but not before.
Wow Dt, you have hit the nail on the head
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I tend to come on to the forum and have a look at the various comments made by fans on players, the manager, the team, the tactics etc, but never post.
This is my first post so I’ll get my tin hat on now as no doubt some fans will disagree with my perspective, however I accept that, as it is all about opinions on how we as individuals see things.
When CE was unveiled as the manager I have to be honest and say he was not whom I would have appointed, but we had to trust the chairman and the board in appointing him, and having looked at his track record, I thought give him time to settle in, build his own team and see how things progress.
For me the team has not developed or improved since he took over, his signings and team selection are erratic, players are played out of position and where players under perform rather than working with them and understanding why or what the cause is, he shows them the door. I do wonder how you get a team to gel or foster team spirit when there is such a rotation of players in and out of the club.
I also believe CE is a manager who does not know his best team, the formation to play them in, how to change a game when things aren't working, tactics to use and how to motivate. We might have good spells but we have no consistency and that is what is required to win a title or at least get us into the play offs. For me sadly we will never win this league with him in charge because of the aforementioned. A lot of fans keep believing he has the ability to turn around, do fans not realise the fact, it’s his team selection/tactics that are causing the inconsistency in the first place?
Football managers/coaches at this level have to have several key things to succeed, tactical awareness, the ability to change things during a game and good man management skills. I think he lacks those skills, the latter opinion comes from a few things I have heard from former players, as well as just general observations during a game along with his responses after some games. It's a pity, but he just doesn't inspire me and I cannot go on accepting his usual post match comments of players not good enough etc; he brought them to the club, coach them, manage them, analyse the issues, resolve issues don’t just show them the door.
Finally I believe the manager has run his course at Bufc, the inconsistency, the standard of football, continual movement of players in and out is simply not acceptable. He’s been here long enough and my patience is wearing thin as I don’t see progress. I honestly can’t see CE taking us any further and he needs to be replaced. We need a new management team with fresh ideas.
I think most of your comments are correct , the thing where we should take caution is rushing in to sack the manager , can you name a good candidate ? . Remember a small section of fans told us 2/3 years ago sacking the manager was a sure fire way to win the league rather than scrape into the play-offs as we had been doing . I think we have to give him until the end of the season
Craig did an unbelievable job last season with an honest set of non-league players .
Has he played at full-time level ? If not maybe these so called stars that Craig signed see themselves superior in tactical knowhow .
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I tend to come on to the forum and have a look at the various comments made by fans on players, the manager, the team, the tactics etc, but never post.
This is my first post so I’ll get my tin hat on now as no doubt some fans will disagree with my perspective, however I accept that, as it is all about opinions on how we as individuals see things.
When CE was unveiled as the manager I have to be honest and say he was not whom I would have appointed, but we had to trust the chairman and the board in appointing him, and having looked at his track record, I thought give him time to settle in, build his own team and see how things progress.
For me the team has not developed or improved since he took over, his signings and team selection are erratic, players are played out of position and where players under perform rather than working with them and understanding why or what the cause is, he shows them the door. I do wonder how you get a team to gel or foster team spirit when there is such a rotation of players in and out of the club.
I also believe CE is a manager who does not know his best team, the formation to play them in, how to change a game when things aren't working, tactics to use and how to motivate. We might have good spells but we have no consistency and that is what is required to win a title or at least get us into the play offs. For me sadly we will never win this league with him in charge because of the aforementioned. A lot of fans keep believing he has the ability to turn around, do fans not realise the fact, it’s his team selection/tactics that are causing the inconsistency in the first place?
Football managers/coaches at this level have to have several key things to succeed, tactical awareness, the ability to change things during a game and good man management skills. I think he lacks those skills, the latter opinion comes from a few things I have heard from former players, as well as just general observations during a game along with his responses after some games. It's a pity, but he just doesn't inspire me and I cannot go on accepting his usual post match comments of players not good enough etc; he brought them to the club, coach them, manage them, analyse the issues, resolve issues don’t just show them the door.
Finally I believe the manager has run his course at Bufc, the inconsistency, the standard of football, continual movement of players in and out is simply not acceptable. He’s been here long enough and my patience is wearing thin as I don’t see progress. I honestly can’t see CE taking us any further and he needs to be replaced. We need a new management team with fresh ideas.
I think most of your comments are correct , the thing where we should take caution is rushing in to sack the manager , can you name a good candidate ? . Remember a small section of fans told us 2/3 years ago sacking the manager was a sure fire way to win the league rather than scrape into the play-offs as we had been doing . I think we have to give him until the end of the season
Craig did an unbelievable job last season with an honest set of non-league players .
Has he played at full-time level ? If not maybe these so called stars that Craig signed see themselves superior in tactical knowhow .
I see your point 're players & so called respect for the gaffer. But look at last seasons free fall under Murray. AM had extensive FL experience and as a champion several times. Yet none of that could stop the dressing room rot and only his resignation lifted the gloom.
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I have no doubt that The Chairman and Craig will have a long chat tomorrow on what is happening at the club. Going out of the FA Cup so early has cost us a some hard earned revenue which we can ill afford to lose. I think we have to prepare ourselves for a bit more turmoil in the next few weeks as the inevitable adjustments are made to the squad and possibly, although unlikely at this stage, staff.
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I was one among many that witnessed that shocking performance yesterday.
I say shocking because swearing on here is not the thing to do. I see no reason to put all the blame on CE, he got experienced players in who must have bought in to his ideas for the season. Those players have let the manager down, the chairman down, the supporters down and their selves down.
I certainly believe some names will disappear from the team sheet in the next week or so, and rightly so.
It will be an interesting couple of weeks ahead.
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I think we have to remember some of the words echoed by many supporters during the latter Greene period of "he signed the players, it is his responsibility". There was quotes about the "tinkerman" after signing so many players and swapping and changing things all the time.
I feel Nothing has changed here now, but the attitudes towards the same problems seemingly have. We seem far more reluctant to blame this manager. Craig has to show some resilience and fast, there is no doubting he has the right credentials to be a good manager but right now, something is just not clicking into place. Anyone know how the total of signings at this stage of the season compare to previous seasons at the same stage ? With us now out of the cup at the first hurdle, no doubt this will have a knock on effect to any extra player funds for the rest of the season. It is down to these current players to do what we know many of them can and play as a group and create some attractive football. Of course, that latter is down to how the manager decides to set them out.
So I end with where I started....it is the managers responsibility.
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After all said and done, this season had still a long way to go.
Things can only get better.
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After all said and done, this season had still a long way to go.
Things can only get better.
Then the club should remind the players of your words by playing the D:ream classic as they come out the tunnel !
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After all said and done, this season had still a long way to go.
Things can only get better.
Then the club should remind the players of your words by playing the D:ream classic as they come out the tunnel !
It would make a few people chuckle though playing that lol.
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After all said and done, this season had still a long way to go.
Things can only get better.
Then the club should remind the players of your words by playing the D:ream classic as they come out the tunnel !
It would make a few people chuckle though playing that lol.
I would like to follow up that comment by saying
"What could possibly go wrong"
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After all said and done, this season had still a long way to go.
Things can only get better.
Then the club should remind the players of your words by playing the D:ream classic as they come out the tunnel !
if things keep going as they are "send in the clowns" will be more likely....
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Agree with much of what DT says.
Feel a bit sorry for CE. On paper he recruited well in the summer on the whole. He put his faith in the likes of Marriott, who has done it at a higher level and scored for fun at Royston last year. I'm not sure what's happened to the likes of him and Arnold. Wrong type of players around them? Don't like CE? Something else ? You generally don't become a bad player overnight. And we had the untimely departure of the star centre half from Harrogate.
I don't like the loanees - not good enough.
I think we need two new centre halves. The ones from PSL looked good. Height and / or pace up front - a must in this league. And finally, someone who can run with the ball , take players on and get crosses in - like a Hemmings or a Jay Rollins. Sort that out and we'll fly.
TEP
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Agree with much of what DT says.
Feel a bit sorry for CE. On paper he recruited well in the summer on the whole. He put his faith in the likes of Marriott, who has done it at a higher level and scored for fun at Royston last year. I'm not sure what's happened to the likes of him and Arnold. Wrong type of players around them? Don't like CE? Something else ? You generally don't become a bad player overnight. And we had the untimely departure of the star centre half from Harrogate.
I don't like the loanees - not good enough.
I think we need two new centre halves. The ones from PSL looked good. Height and / or pace up front - a must in this league. And finally, someone who can run with the ball , take players on and get crosses in - like a Hemmings or a Jay Rollins. Sort that out and we'll fly.
TEP
Re. the marquee signings of the summer. Undoubted talent but they just don't seem to be influencing games in the way you'd expect. In which case you would have to assume the issue is more tactical than anything else. Is Arnold, for example, playing the same kind of position/role he did at Lincoln? (Genuine question - I don't know).
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Craig has signed 28 players this season . How many have performed well enough to be considered good enough to play for a team with P/O asperations .?
Out of the 6 strikers signed I don't think any fit the bill .
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I don't know Pete. Marriott has obviously done it at a higher level and a lower level. Maybe the dynamics of the team are vastly different here. Maybe he needs a tall partner to set him up. Not sure about Arnold. He looks a bit lightweight for the league. Great crosses, free kicks etc but not much else. Margetts ? He's never really scored anywhere - apart from a few at Gainsborough so I don't think he'll come good at Boston. I guess it's all about balance. For me though, in this league you've got to have either height or pace - anything else and you're too easy to mark. I would have loved to have marked our number 9 on Saturday. I think I'd have worn my slippers.
TEP
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Would only have been Chorley at home in the next round, again!
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I agree re Margetts. When he signed I thought he'd smash this league. But scrutiny of his scoring record yields very little
Arnold should breeze the league too. But it's just not working at the minute. Will CE get time? The board were very patient with Murray so he probably will. But 28 players signed is a huge number and bringing Gregg back (whilst I rate him at what he does and would have him in my side any day) tells me the hoof it style is here to stay
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Another year, same story in the cup!
On the bright side the league is wide open, except for Chorley at the top. We're 4 points off 2nd!
Confident CE can sort this team out and get us into the playoffs.
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Another year, same story in the cup!
On the bright side the league is wide open, except for Chorley at the top. We're 4 points off 2nd!
Confident CE can sort this team out and get us into the playoffs.
Totally agree. I think CE is learning his trade, if he was the finished article he would not be here. I think we should back him, and not be fickle, oh hang on we are BUFC fans, that may be a bit hard.
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Another year, same story in the cup!
On the bright side the league is wide open, except for Chorley at the top. We're 4 points off 2nd!
Confident CE can sort this team out and get us into the playoffs.
Totally agree. I think CE is learning his trade, if he was the finished article he would not be here. I think we should back him, and not be fickle, oh hang on we are BUFC fans, that may be a bit hard.
Yes no need to panic yet, you can clearly see that some players have let him down.
We still have plenty to play for yet, and who knows, we might make it to Wembley yet, and get promoted.
I saw enough in the second half when Nosher and Greg came on to convince me that we can be a team full of passion.
Because for me that is what we have lost this season.
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Chubby I have been alerted to the fact that u sent me a Personal Message? I can't retrieve it at present. What did you want??
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Chubby I have been alerted to the fact that u sent me a Personal Message? I can't retrieve it at present. What did you want??
God l think that was weeks ago when we had a few crossed words.
I just wanted to know why l had upset you ?
But things seem to be ok now.
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Chubby I have been alerted to the fact that u sent me a Personal Message? I can't retrieve it at present. What did you want??
God l think that was weeks ago when we had a few crossed words.
I just wanted to know why l had upset you ?
But things seem to be ok now.
Yeah cool. I was wasted at engagement party when I posted that nonsense. Rightly served my ban from patter. Sorry YC it was unacceptable.
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Chubby I have been alerted to the fact that u sent me a Personal Message? I can't retrieve it at present. What did you want??
God l think that was weeks ago when we had a few crossed words.
I just wanted to know why l had upset you ?
But things seem to be ok now.
Yeah cool. I was wasted at engagement party when I posted that nonsense. Rightly served my ban from patter. Sorry YC it was unacceptable.
No worries thanks for the apologie, must have been a great party.
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Chubby I have been alerted to the fact that u sent me a Personal Message? I can't retrieve it at present. What did you want??
God l think that was weeks ago when we had a few crossed words.
I just wanted to know why l had upset you ?
But things seem to be ok now.
Yeah cool. I was wasted at engagement party when I posted that nonsense. Rightly served my ban from patter. Sorry YC it was unacceptable.
No worries thanks for the apologie, must have been a great party.
Really wish l could get to more away games though, work or horses get in the way.
Frustrating really.
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Chubby I have been alerted to the fact that u sent me a Personal Message? I can't retrieve it at present. What did you want??
God l think that was weeks ago when we had a few crossed words.
I just wanted to know why l had upset you ?
But things seem to be ok now.
Yeah cool. I was wasted at engagement party when I posted that nonsense. Rightly served my ban from patter. Sorry YC it was unacceptable.
Love it. Pissed up at an engagement party, posting abusive nonsense on an obscure football team's internet forum. Haha. Superb. Is there anything more quintessentially non-league than that? ;D
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i once watched the teletext screen (no other matches on the screen) for the entire game boston v yeovil game- 0-0 til 90+2 daryl clare. promotion season i think
very sad but hey
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i once watched the teletext screen (no other matches on the screen) for the entire game boston v yeovil game- 0-0 til 90+2 daryl clare. promotion season i think
very sad but hey
Do they still have Teletext? I remember there used to be a page with Lincolnshire sport on it.
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i once watched the teletext screen (no other matches on the screen) for the entire game boston v yeovil game- 0-0 til 90+2 daryl clare. promotion season i think
very sad but hey
Ok, we have a winner.
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i once watched the teletext screen (no other matches on the screen) for the entire game boston v yeovil game- 0-0 til 90+2 daryl clare. promotion season i think
very sad but hey
I think we scored early on, and held on for the 1-0. I remember being sat at home doing GCSE coursework whilst listening to it on Radio Lincs AM frequency (which was an awful reception at the best of times).
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Remember calling Club Call number from a phone box in the eighties to see how we were doing. Bloody expensive
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https://www.skysports.com/football/yeovil-vs-boston-united/teams/25969
memories
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Remember calling Club Call number from a phone box in the eighties to see how we were doing. Bloody expensive
I used to call the pilgrim lounge and ask them what the score was when I was at work.
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I remember going to reserve games at York Street, and JB would call the club for Colin Woodcock to announce over the tannoy any goals in the first team's game.
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i once watched the teletext screen (no other matches on the screen) for the entire game boston v yeovil game- 0-0 til 90+2 daryl clare. promotion season i think
very sad but hey
I think we scored early on, and held on for the 1-0. I remember being sat at home doing GCSE coursework whilst listening to it on Radio Lincs AM frequency (which was an awful reception at the best of times).
After 5 minutes according to this: http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/N260302.html (http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/N260302.html) I was at Arnold Town that evening I think.
The only last minute winner I can think of from that season was at Southport. (what a great day out that was)
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so much for my memory
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Was this the night the supporters coach got bricked? Me and my lad jumped of the bus and chased the bar stewards into a car park. Remember the bus company would only let us travel back on it if the inner window was ok thank god it only cracked the outer glass or we would have had to wait for another coach.
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Was this the night the supporters coach got bricked? Me and my lad jumped of the bus and chased the bar stewards into a car park. Remember the bus company would only let us travel back on it if the inner window was ok thank god it only cracked the outer glass or we would have had to wait for another coach.
Some ironically great posts but my absolute surreal BUFC experience was inbetween the DG brexit & AM takeover. About 50 of went to Witton Albion on the Sat & it was abandoned @ half time due to all the pies & programmes being sold.....official line was in fact FOG that clears that up. The rescheduled game was I believe the following Tuesday. So Sandra & Maureen managed to get about 15 of us to fulfill our loyal BUFC duty....we didn't take any persuading! The November weather in Bostonshire was below freezing all day....we got sent home from graft at 11am due to the frost. Witton guaranteed us it was ok & the game was on. We duly left York Street at 3pm. At 19.05 & with us 10 mins from ground a pitch inspection took place & the appointed Ref declared the pitch unplayable. So like u do we piled onto the first Pub we came to. Watched Hull beat Newcastle on penalties in the league cup. Then as we had no other plans just drove back to York Street. Amazingly none of us went back for the 3rd game....we r so fickle & fairweather!!
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Remember calling Club Call number from a phone box in the eighties to see how we were doing. Bloody expensive
Got into big trouble from my dad by ringing this all the tine.
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Back in the nineties I recall ringing the standard club phone number just after full time to find out the score in a FA Cup game. I was told we won 10-1 and assumed I had misheard so asked again. I’d heard right first time...