Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: youngchubby69 on September 15, 2018, 05:09:30 PM
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Absolutely bloody awful, a terrible performance in midfield and up front.
Shocking tactics if we had any.
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I am sorry but is this level a step to far for Craig Elliott.
I know it's early days but we look like a side that could be mid table at best.
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Feel really sorry for the board and chairman, who have obviously put a sizeable budget in place to back CE.
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Not sure why we play long ball with a small team against a team with big defenders - play it down the sides, get them turning. Need serious improvement for next week and season ahead.
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Not sure why we play long ball with a small team against a team with big defenders - play it down the sides, get them turning. Need serious improvement for next week and season ahead.
Exactly god knows why we did it, Peterborough Sports must now be fancying there chances,and who can blame them.
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Chester were one of the poorest sides seen for a long time and we still couldn't outplay them. The only tactic we had was lump it forward and chase.
It's a good job we have a few points on the board. Think they will be needed if we carry on like this.
Craig doesn't seem to change things when it's not working and that's a big concern.
We really need to win next week otherwise I fear there will be calls for someone's head.
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Chester were poor but they had about everything you need to be up there in this league. Height, experience, nasty little bastard in midfield who reffed the game well and pace up front.
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Last week at Stockport, the team put a shift in. This week, we could have played until midnight and not scored, and the defence was being dragged out of position. Obviously we have some decent players, but they don't seem to be able to manage two good consecutive matches (hopefully that means it's the turn for a good game next week!). Our other problem, as I see it, is that we have no plan B and so find great difficulty in bouncing back if we go a goal down.
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Chester were poor but they had about everything you need to be up there in this league. Height, experience, nasty little bastard in midfield who reffed the game well and pace up front.
Harris is supposed to be a nasty midfielder but never gets played in there, he was also the captain at Shaw Lane.
I have nothing against Willis but you really need your captain to affect a game and lead by example, so for me Willis s not the man for the job, how can he be in goal.
Give Harris the arm band or Davies.
Craig is bemoaning the fact that he does not have a target man, so why let GS go and then moan about it.
That type of center forward is the hardest to find, but then we let one go.
With the pace we have in this team surely they would have loved playing off him, and he always gave defenders something to think about.
We created chances today in the first half but no one can find the net.
Walker ran his guts out, but simply cannot finish, and l think he is in two minds as to what he wants to be, a winger of striker, you can't be both and today spent most of the game out wide.
I don't really know what's going on to be honest, it's all frustrating.
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I am sorry but is this level a step to far for Craig Elliott.
I know it's early days but we look like a side that could be mid table at best.
Heard your views on Radio Lincs about the sizeable budget and feeling sorry for the board, if you know what the budget is you should say so. As for Craig and a step to far how ridiculous, you have shown every confidence in him up to now. It would have been impossible to have envisaged todays performance after last weeks excellent display at Stockport and quite rightly he kept faith with them. Yes we are finding it hard to score goals but make no mistake while ever we have our current number 8 and 4 we will continue, they are the worst pair of mid fielders ever to pull on a Boston shirt, never a decent pass to the forwards, giving away the ball and getting over run in midfield no wonder the defenders hit the ball long these two are never in position for a pass . Put that right and we will be okay.
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Amazing game football. As I see it our midfield two are tidy and play decent quality touches and give it a chance on the floor and their commitment is without fault. We bossed the first half and we’re caught out from a corner. I have two points YC Craig is not out his depth but learning at a higher level clearly he has things to address and it’s a new level. Yes Chester weren’t great. But I agree that we need a settled top two. The lad on loan the number 7 was just poor out muscled every time Nicky is a winger never won a header we have quality up top signed on but they need a chance with quality service. Now with Davies who is absolutely top draw in every department especially his delivery get Marriott and Margot together they will score. Loan players at this level from acedmies don’t have the fight or aggression. Really disappointed tonight as we didn’t change it early enough but hopefully Craig will sort it. Last week buzzing this week deflated. YC get a balanced view
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I am sorry but is this level a step to far for Craig Elliott.
I know it's early days but we look like a side that could be mid table at best.
I thought you were in the "give a man a chance brigade"? You defended Adam Murray for what seemed an eternity last season saying that many other posters, myself included, shouldn't be so harsh, so soon. This time last year we had 11 points from the first 30 available and were 17th , and today we have 15 and sit 9th. Okay, so today wasn't great, but I have to say the rant against the manager is somewhat premature IMO.
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Re the reference to the 4 ....
Sat between a professional coach and a guy who has been involved with and watched football for 5 or more decades. Both during the game said " that Thanoj could play a lot higher than this"
It's a funny ole game Saint ;)
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Some fans are quick to praise and even quicker to criticise.
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One minute it's praising the manager next is saying that he is way too inexperienced. I mean really?
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Agree with you Bodge. YC - you defended Murray vociferously from day one. How about cutting CE a bit of slack..
I think we're lacking a plan B (height up front). Creativity on the wings and strikers with confidence. Simple really :D
TEP
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Don't think Craig knows his best team or formation and not being helped by inconsistent players.
As for midfield think Abbott and thanoj are too similar and neither playing particularily well.
Always thought 10 games is a good point to look for a guide to where we stand. Still think we need a lot of work to be done.
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Yes l was wrong about Murray, let's hope l am wrong about Craig.
He will have my support until his last day in charge, which l hope is in years to come.
I am not so sure that OXO is correct about the 8&4 being the worst midfield ever to be at this club.
Do agree with Holbeach 56 that they are to similar and we need someone different, we have Harris try him.
But l am sure we all agree on one thing, these types of performances can't carry on if we want to be in with a chance of promotion.
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Look on the bright side Chubby it probably means when the Crowley’s move on the gimps won’t come looking our way😀.
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Don't think Craig knows his best team or formation and not being helped by inconsistent players.
As for midfield think Abbott and thanoj are too similar and neither playing particularily well.
Always thought 10 games is a good point to look for a guide to where we stand. Still think we need a lot of work to be done.
Don't think Craig knows his best team or formation and not being helped by inconsistent players.
Wasn't we saying the same thing about Murray last season ??
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CE looked shattered in his interview....
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Look on the bright side Chubby it probably means when the Crowley’s move on the gimps won’t come looking our way😀.
You are probably right Tash, but to be fair to Craig he is trying to change things.
After having a night out last night with friends and thinking about things, l will retract my view on whether Craig is up to managing in this league.
I do think he his, but I think he did make a mistake in letting Greg go.
The Cowley's didn't dispose of Rhead as he gives them different options and they know that it is difficult to find a replacement.
Just my opinion though.
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CE clearly lumped his eggs in them Lincoln lads firing basket.
Can you blame him, we all thought they were great signings 6 weeks ago?
But they've flopped or can't get used to this lower standard and now CE is trying to find his best team when ideally we'd have done this well before now
We are better when teams have a go at us, tactics were completely ineffective today. Way too much long ball, as picked up by the lad Ceesay when I bumped intohim on the train home
Need to pick home form up. Place should be a fortress, long trek to get here, intimidating atmosphere but it was so flat today and will be unless we start scoring at home.
Next week probably a good game to have but one which we're definitely capable of losing if recent performances are to go by
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Whilst we have more points on the board for all the alleged money spent on supposedly better players I can't see that the standard of our football has improved / changed a great deal from last year.
Really hope Craig finds his winning ways again soon because you can see in his interviews it looks like it is starting to get to him.
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Every manager at what ever level will make mistakes, a good manager will spot them quickly and rectify them. I think the manager will get this team playing consistently but it may take longer than first thought. I don’t know if David Norris is still playing but if I had been Craig he would have been a player I would have brought with me.
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So what's happened to Andre Johnson??
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travelling from West Yorkshire to watching The Pilgrims. Performance was not very good to say the least. The ref was so poor, and could not keep up with the play just like the Lino
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I am sorry but is this level a step to far for Craig Elliott.
Seems to have done alright until now... saved us from relegation last season, and within a few points of the play offs.
If you take defeats this badly (surely we should be used to them from the last couple of years), then maybe you need to chill out before posting on here after games...
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I think the frustrating thing so far is that there is a massive opportunity this season to be up there because there is no stand out team as previous seasons because am sure Chorley will slip up before end of the season.
Anybody can truly beat anyone else in this league and if we become more consistent we will not be far away, but it needs to be sorted out soon which I am sure Craig is capable of.
I know at the level of football we are at we cannot expect flowing football all the time, but equally we ought to expect better than just lump it forward and hope, which is what we are being served up at the moment at home.
Thankfully we have a chairman who gives a manager a chance.
Just asking to give fans at home more to cheer about!
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Disappointing but not enough big players doing it at the moment, I would much rather the likes of Gregg Smith, Reece Thompson etc who really did try than some who just seem here for the pay packet.
If the players give 100% and lack the skill for us to reach the play offs etc then I can live with that, it's when they don't it bothers me.
Conference North is our true level and has been now for many many years, getting into the National league would be a bonus but shouldn't be expected.
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Margetts looked up for it when he came on, no service so at times he was dropping deep to get the ball.
Sums up yesterday's problem IMO. Thanoj was injured and strapped up to play, but he was limping for most of the second half and we were hitting the long ball.
If Marriot could play just behind the main striker with a fully fit Thanoj feeding the ball through along the ground then it probably won't matter who the striker was he will get the service. It worked for Andre Johnson's goal earlier in the season.
That's my view of what I've seen at the home games so far, we're much better away apparently :police:
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I am sorry but is this level a step to far for Craig Elliott.
Seems to have done alright until now... saved us from relegation last season, and within a few points of the play offs.
If you take defeats this badly (surely we should be used to them from the last couple of years), then maybe you need to chill out before posting on here after games...
You are probably right Tash, but to be fair to Craig he is trying to change things.
After having a night out last night with friends and thinking about things, l will retract my view on whether Craig is up to managing in this league.
I do think he his, but I think he did make a mistake in letting Greg go.
The Cowley's didn't dispose of Rhead as he gives them different options and they know that it is difficult to find a replacement.
Just my opinion though.
Perhaps you should have read this previous post before writing your comment about my post.
Keep up fella.
I know you try hard to criticize and single out certain sentencs in my posts, but you really need to move on.
Sadly you are only playing mind games with yourself, and you are making it really obvious that you don't like me.
But l don't really care matey.
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I am sorry but is this level a step to far for Craig Elliott.
I know it's early days but we look like a side that could be mid table at best.
I thought you were in the "give a man a chance brigade"? You defended Adam Murray for what seemed an eternity last season saying that many other posters, myself included, shouldn't be so harsh, so soon. This time last year we had 11 points from the first 30 available and were 17th , and today we have 15 and sit 9th. Okay, so today wasn't great, but I have to say the rant against the manager is somewhat premature IMO.
Anybody studying the CN at present could be of the option that all things considered the promotion places in this league are wide open. Chorley are on fire but so we're staleybridge Celtic in 2012 they thought they had the league won at Xmas about 8 pints clear & finished way off the pace. This season it's going 2 be ultra competitive. Just have a peep at the ex FL clubs in the mix. SOCKPORT..York..Southport.. Us..1883..Kiddy..Chester etc & then the for then the cash the other challengers have forked out. Its actually a superb league this year. CE hasnt done mid tBle for any of his sides yet. Yes hes stepped up a division but hes a winner....just like the cowleys. They had to step up from conference with braintree & they are top of League 2 now
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they thought they had the league won at Xmas about 8 pints clear & finished way off the pace.
Not the first footballers to fall for the demon drink and won't be the last.
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The budget is big. The signings are marquee. But still the blend is all wrong. The board have backed Elliott as they did Murray. He didn't deliver despite a lot of sound bites. Hopefully Elliott will. There's less BS from him than Murray who was a BS genius so hopefully time will tell
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Still plenty of time to put it right.
Let's hope for a huge response on Saturday from this team, let's get Harris in that midfield to add a bit of bite.
This team has loads of options, but does anyone know if the 3 on loan have permission to play in the FACup?
If not it might be a good opportunity to get Marriott and Johnson back on the pitch.
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I am sorry but is this level a step to far for Craig Elliott.
I know it's early days but we look like a side that could be mid table at best.
Heard your views on Radio Lincs about the sizeable budget and feeling sorry for the board, if you know what the budget is you should say so. As for Craig and a step to far how ridiculous, you have shown every confidence in him up to now. It would have been impossible to have envisaged todays performance after last weeks excellent display at Stockport and quite rightly he kept faith with them. Yes we are finding it hard to score goals but make no mistake while ever we have our current number 8 and 4 we will continue, they are the worst pair of mid fielders ever to pull on a Boston shirt, never a decent pass to the forwards, giving away the ball and getting over run in midfield no wonder the defenders hit the ball long these two are never in position for a pass . Put that right and we will be okay.
Don't know who you are talking about being on the radio, that's not me but I know who it is though.
I don't know what the budget is, but the general consensus is that it must be bigger than last season, perhaps you could shed some light on that.
I don't think it's ridiculous to doubt CE, l am only expressing my opinion on what I have seen lately.
I will as l said earlier continue to support him, you certainly will not find me shouting a bucket full of abuse at him.
I am though concerned like you about this midfield, they are very similar and are struggling to find a decent forward pass.
And as you said we are not going to score goals if this continues, as in my opinion Arnold and Walker are having to keep coming back to get the ball and take it forward.
You like me have watched many games of football, and when you put inexperienced young lads up against experienced center halfs they just get bullied when the ball is in the air.
Rose just got dominated and bullied.
But we have loads of time to improve and make no mistake we still have a decent team, and Craig will put it right.
We all just need to give him plenty of support and encouragement..
I am frustrated with our form so far, but l imagine he must be more frustrated than us.
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they thought they had the league won at Xmas about 8 pints clear & finished way off the pace.
Not the first footballers to fall for the demon drink and won't be the last.
Good observation YSP , cheers :)