Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: delbar on May 24, 2018, 05:53:30 PM
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Bit surprised by his move to Stockport, thought he was the one out of contract player who might stay with us!
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Good riddance to the miserable sod much better than him around, same with any others if they won't sign immediately tell em to get stuffed, only want players who want to play for us.
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I thought he was excellent all season
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Good riddance to the miserable sod much better than him around, same with any others if they won't sign immediately tell em to get stuffed, only want players who want to play for us.
Totally agree oxo, just don't pamper to them get rid.
They either want to be with us or not, same goes for Hemmings.
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I thought he was excellent all season
Same here , under CE he started chipping in with vital goals which was a bonus . Sad to see him go .
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Good riddance to the miserable sod much better than him around, same with any others if they won't sign immediately tell em to get stuffed, only want players who want to play for us.
Totally agree oxo, just don't pamper to them get rid.
They either want to be with us or not, same goes for Hemmings.
Like any other occupation chubby it's all down to hard cash , that's the way of thing's .
The end of the season awards showed his great contribution for season , I regret seeing him go but have to say thanks and good luck .
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Good riddance to the miserable sod much better than him around, same with any others if they won't sign immediately tell em to get stuffed, only want players who want to play for us.
Totally agree oxo, just don't pamper to them get rid.
They either want to be with us or not, same goes for Hemmings.
Like any other occupation chubby it's all down to hard cash , that's the way of thing's .
The end of the season awards showed his great contribution for season , I regret seeing him go but have to say thanks and good luck .
Craig Elliott made his season for him, without Craig he would have been out on loan somewhere.
CE made him captain and gave him a chance to play, he has though now showed to everyone what he is like.
Apparently he has said that Stockport is a proper club going places, so from that comment he obviously doesn't think we are.
Well let's see Mr big head what happens next season, l would wager that he will spend more time bench warming than defending.
Good riddance to him, he is obviously not good enough for this club, you can go and walk your dog's with your brother.
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Good riddance to the miserable sod much better than him around, same with any others if they won't sign immediately tell em to get stuffed, only want players who want to play for us.
Totally agree oxo, just don't pamper to them get rid.
They either want to be with us or not, same goes for Hemmings.
Like any other occupation chubby it's all down to hard cash , that's the way of thing's .
The end of the season awards showed his great contribution for season , I regret seeing him go but have to say thanks and good luck .
Craig Elliott made his season for him, without Craig he would have been out on loan somewhere.
CE made him captain and gave him a chance to play, he has though now showed to everyone what he is like.
Apparently he has said that Stockport is a proper club going places, so from that comment he obviously doesn't think we are.
Well let's see Mr big head what happens next season, l would wager that he will spend more time bench warming than defending.
Good riddance to him, he is obviously not good enough for this club, you can go and walk your dog's with your brother.
You've got to be realistic chubby , how many of us would turn down a pay rise ?. We cannot compete with clubs like Stockport with wage offers .
As Greene found out it's frustrating spotting these players and putting them in the shop window , only to see them move on to bigger clubs.
Will more follow ?
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Bit harsh IMO young chubby
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Samo samo , player s leaving and available ones avoiding Boston like the plague .
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As said by others, in his opinion he's furthering his career. We really shouldn't knock anybody for that. reality check though, Stockport are only mid table, just like us. sure, there's a larger fan base, but that's it.
There was a thread last year which included comments relating to having pride to play for your local team, well there's nobody local and no pride in the shirt, just good old fashioned best wages available. Let's face it, that's life in football these days.
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Good luck in your job Mr Keane.
Never gave us less than 100%
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Stockport are only mid table, just like us.
They made the play offs, we didn't....
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Think he's Derby based too. So 2 hrs plus versus an hour travelling a couple of times a week makes a time and fuel cost difference
Clubs bin players without a second thought. Often not even having the courtesy to di it face to face. Don't blame him for putting himself first
Good luck to him
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Several of our out-of-contract players are signed up with the same "Sportz Connexions" agent. Connexions will only really make money if they move on since I can't imagine we have much spare for signing on/agent fees, and so clearly this agency will be on the phone trying to find better deals for the players somewhere else. In Keane's case, they succeeded. It's nothing to do with Stockport being onto good things - I highly doubt Keane has an intricate knowledge of their squad. He's just gone for the extra $$$ for himself and the agent.
To be honest, I find the idea of agents operating at this level a bit embarrassing for all concerned, but hey ho - nothing we can do to change it. The simple fact is that those players have absolutely no intention of staying at Boston if the agency can find them a new home.
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Apparently he has said that Stockport is a proper club going places, so from that comment he obviously doesn't think we are.
I'll not disagree with him.
The fact we're the longest serving club in this league tells you everything. It seems we're happy to be a second rate non league club just treading water. We might have a decent stadium but that's it, year on year the support declines and expectation levels become lower and lower.
Good luck to him, Stockport might be a bit of a joke but they at least show some intent with their recruitment, we've simply become a pretty unfunny joke.
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Several of our out-of-contract players are signed up with the same "Sportz Connexions" agent. Connexions will only really make money if they move on since I can't imagine we have much spare for signing on/agent fees, and so clearly this agency will be on the phone trying to find better deals for the players somewhere else. In Keane's case, they succeeded. It's nothing to do with Stockport being onto good things - I highly doubt Keane has an intricate knowledge of their squad. He's just gone for the extra $$$ for himself and the agent.
To be honest, I find the idea of agents operating at this level a bit embarrassing for all concerned, but hey ho - nothing we can do to change it. The simple fact is that those players have absolutely no intention of staying at Boston if the agency can find them a new home.
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Apparently he has said that Stockport is a proper club going places, so from that comment he obviously doesn't think we are.
I'll not disagree with him.
The fact we're the longest serving club in this league tells you everything. It seems we're happy to be a second rate non league club just treading water. We might have a decent stadium but that's it, year on year the support declines and expectation levels become lower and lower.
Good luck to him, Stockport might be a bit of a joke but they at least show some intent with their recruitment, we've simply become a pretty unfunny joke.
Oh, Andy - it's really not that bad! But come on then, how would you change things for the better with the budget we've got? What is the chairman not doing that you would to get us competing with the rich teams?
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Good luck to him. Thanks for your help last year but that's it. I don't think he's that great and CE will find a more than adequate replacement I believe.
Noughtyforties, you are being pretty harsh there. I don't think we're a joke at all. And to knock our recruitment progress when we're still in May is a bit premature. It could come to bite you like it did last season when you stormed out when we were losing, only for us to fight back :)
TEP
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Several of our out-of-contract players are signed up with the same "Sportz Connexions" agent. Connexions will only really make money if they move on since I can't imagine we have much spare for signing on/agent fees, and so clearly this agency will be on the phone trying to find better deals for the players somewhere else. In Keane's case, they succeeded. It's nothing to do with Stockport being onto good things - I highly doubt Keane has an intricate knowledge of their squad. He's just gone for the extra $$$ for himself and the agent.
To be honest, I find the idea of agents operating at this level a bit embarrassing for all concerned, but hey ho - nothing we can do to change it. The simple fact is that those players have absolutely no intention of staying at Boston if the agency can find them a new home.
Well put Pete, we always get the comments on here about clubs not being loyal to their players etc and how you can't blame the players going for better money.
Well in this case Boston were loyal to those they offered deals too.
I don't think Craig will loose to much sleep over any of them, and I won't either, l simply say " that's the offer take it or take a hike"
Let's not waste anymore time on time wasters and move on,
IMO none of those players who didn't or are considering offers were outstanding, Hemmings was ok in some games but wasn't consistent enough and often got blasted at times by CE.
So my message to them and there money grabbing agents is get lost and move on to those clubs who are willing to pay for midiocre talent.
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Apparently he has said that Stockport is a proper club going places, so from that comment he obviously doesn't think we are.
I'll not disagree with him.
The fact we're the longest serving club in this league tells you everything. It seems we're happy to be a second rate non league club just treading water. We might have a decent stadium but that's it, year on year the support declines and expectation levels become lower and lower.
Good luck to him, Stockport might be a bit of a joke but they at least show some intent with their recruitment, we've simply become a pretty unfunny joke.
So l guess you will not be coming to watch this season, or should we go back to boom and bust, because that is why we are where we are today.
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He is free to take whatever job he wishes. If it is more convenient and more money what is he going to do?
I thought he was OK, but not in the same league as Pidge and Pearson. He had a tendancy to get under the ball when clearing headers, but as I said he was an OK player.... Good luck to him.
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Liked him a proper winner. Lets be realistic Stockport are a sleeping giant in non-league, and depending where Jordan lives from a geographical point maybe a win win , so lets not be to harsh on a player who for me was a 100% man on the pitch.
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I also wish him all the best, though sorry to see him go. He played out of position under Murray, but never let us down, and was then one of the stand-out players of the recovery under CE once in his best position.
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Apparently he has said that Stockport is a proper club going places, so from that comment he obviously doesn't think we are.
I'll not disagree with him.
The fact we're the longest serving club in this league tells you everything. It seems we're happy to be a second rate non league club just treading water. We might have a decent stadium but that's it, year on year the support declines and expectation levels become lower and lower.
Good luck to him, Stockport might be a bit of a joke but they at least show some intent with their recruitment, we've simply become a pretty unfunny joke.
So l guess you will not be coming to watch this season, or should we go back to boom and bust, because that is why we are where we are today.
We are at the same level we have been basically since the early 90's barring those few years with Steve Evans at the helm, without going for bust this is our level over the last 25+ years, getting into the Conference would be a bonus but I don't think we should expect it, especially when we were seeing gates drop to under 1000 during the late part of this season.
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The fact we're the longest serving club in this league tells you everything. It seems we're happy to be a second rate non league club just treading water. We might have a decent stadium but that's it, year on year the support declines and expectation levels become lower and lower.
Doesn't look like a year on year decline to me. Bit of a rollercoaster. Goes up and down due to a variety of factors.
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depending where Jordan lives from a geographical point maybe a win win
Nottingham...
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It's a pity we can't find others who would back the club financially. We rely on David Newton too much which can't be good in the long term. Surely there are some businesses who could help or are we just in a football backwater? What is the club doing to attract them?
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How many clubs in Con North have got more players than us signed up ? Not many . Early days for the moaners to start complaining .
Others seem to underestimate the size of Craig's task , is it really that easy to replace the likes of Keane Hemmings etc . I think not .
Think back a few seasons we were told by a small band of supporters if we sacked the manager we would go on to better things and bigger gates ,, easily replacing the likes Mills , Southwell, Pidge , Kaine etc Don't think we should listen to them anymore . They should take on board the comments of delbar , Pete B etc .
Just to add to the comments while many complain of other clubs funded above their income thats the way its been for us for decades , from the Malkinsons through to the HMRC {Evans era ) and now Chestnuts .
At the same time we boasted of playing in a great stadium , sadly it was a stadium that in all honesty was too expensive and we lived above our means in that respect .
Any of the moaners out there got a blueprint of how the club will/shouldbe run post Chestnuts ?
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How many clubs in Con North have got more players than us signed up ? Not many . Early days for the moaners to start complaining .
Others seem to underestimate the size of Craig's task , is it really that easy to replace the likes of Keane Hemmings etc . I think not .
Think back a few seasons we were told by a small band of supporters if we sacked the manager we would go on to better things and bigger gates ,, easily replacing the likes Mills , Southwell, Pidge , Kaine etc Don't think we should listen to them anymore . They should take on board the comments of delbar , Pete B etc .
Just to add to the comments while many complain of other clubs funded above their income thats the way its been for us for decades , from the Malkinsons through to the HMRC {Evans era ) and now Chestnuts .
At the same time we boasted of playing in a great stadium , sadly it was a stadium that in all honesty was too expensive and we lived above our means in that respect .
Any of the moaners out there got a blueprint of how the club will/shouldbe run post Chestnuts ?
I am just thankful we still have a club to watch, it was never going to be easy for us to compete after the financial collapse of the club.
I don't get it how some fans just expect us to be successful, because we have a nice stadium and are Boston United.
As l have said before we are not a big club in non league anymore, and we have to accept that and just keep the club afloat until it can stand on its own two feet financially.
You are spot on GHM regarding the fact that no one is willing to come forward with a blue print for taking the club forward after the the Chestnut's have gone.
I as everyone else wants us to be successful and I see Craig as our opportunity to improve on the pitch without putting the club at serious financial risk.
Our future star players will be gem's from the lower leagues, who he can develop.
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We are a traditional non-league 'sleeping giant'. If and when we become successful, we'll see crowds shoot up like they did at Lincoln (relatively speaking of course, not saying we'll get 9k a game). I know it might seem unambitious to some, but I'm quite happy with how the club is run and operated at the moment. There are always caveats to that of course (I want to see that effin' new stadium started), but in the absence of any other alternatives to the current situation I'm really at a complete loss as to how people can complain.
You only have to look across non-league at various clubs in states of acute financial distress to realise we're actually quite lucky to have a chairman who runs us as well as he does. No of course we can't compete financially but aside from that I'd say we are easily in the top rung of NLN clubs when it comes to how we go about our business. That, if nothing else, is a hell of a thing to be proud of.
We're a clever manager away from being a real force in this league. And NEWSFLASH! We've got a clever manager....
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Keane was probably Murray's key signing pushing Jamma close. However, let's be honest about him....he was only an average holding midfielder/centre half. Yes he will always give 100%. Was he an Ellender or a Ross, Richards or a Pearson....No!
Under AM like all of them he looked lost, CE cleverly made him skipper & he stepped up. He will be replaced by better & we will be more potent in that holding midfield area next time round. Stockport have more or less been a midtable outfit since they joined us from the conference 5 yrs ago; the main reason for that is constantly signing players of Keane's ilk. He's probably no better than they already have & if they are eying play offs next season he will be a squad no utility bench warmer for them. It's actually a sign that we have eyes on at least top 7 that CE has not fought 2 keep him. It's freed up the budget for a better defensive midfield option.
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If I recall correctly Keane was voted 2nd in the fans POY , more tellingly he was voted NUMBER 1 by his team mates so if the comments by posters on here questioning his contributions are correct it appears last seasons players AND supporters are appalling judges of a players ability . ???
When a teenager I was contemplating a career as a vicar thinking a job turning up 2 hrs on a Sunday morning with a plate full of tax fee cash at the end of the stint would be a great career . Then someone wiser than me pointed out that the job involved funerals plus Weddings on SATURDAY AFTERNOONS and the collection plate cash was not tax free , add to that the fact the morality rate has escalated I think my decision to earn a honest living elsewhere was fully vindicated .
Turning back to football , is Craig's job really as simple as some on here think? Is it really that easy to tell your best player that the budget will not allow a bigger pay offer then tell him to p*ss off , can you really sign a better player than him for less money ?
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Good player good luck to him! Don't think we will see Hemmings again either...……….