Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Bodge on May 23, 2018, 01:59:00 PM
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Just read the chairman’s statement. Sounds like there’s no one wanting to run it with the debts it has. How lucky we are that there was at Boston.
Could Gainsborough be getting a reprieve?
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http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/nuneatontownfc/news/statement-from-the-owner-2308752.html
"The club must meet certain conditions to fulfil our licence to compete in the competition. We had three things to tick off to enable this to happen, we now have one item outstanding."
What are the 3 things to fulfil? A ground must be one, plus paying the membership fee (due 7 days before the AGM)... what's the 3rd?
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Things seem to be getting worse, Supporters Club chairperson packs it in .
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I believe it may be end for them again.
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Any club can get into financial strife, we know that more than anybody. But to go bankrupt, reform and then go bankrupt AGAIN is just ridiculous. Especially in such a short time. Both Chester and Telford are both in real trouble too.
Telford in particular should never be in this situation. Have great facilities and a perfect location for attracting players from the numerous big midlands clubs. Nuneaton not dissimilar but you would say this is the highest level they should be playing at.
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Reading Nunny fans forum a few minutes ago they have a potential buyer for the ground .
Reading the details I think it is goodbye Nunny , happy returns Blues .
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As the old saying goes, there by the grace of God. ;)
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https://nuneatontownsupporterscoop.com/2018/06/05/coop-conversation-with-mr-norman-smurthwaite/
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https://nuneatontownsupporterscoop.com/2018/06/05/coop-conversation-with-mr-norman-smurthwaite/
A lot of ifs and buts in that statement, nothing is signed and sealed at all.
I would be very concerned if was a supporter.
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Reading Nunny fans forum a few minutes ago they have a potential buyer for the ground .
Reading the details I think it is goodbye Nunny , happy returns Blues .
Nunny fans said to us a couple of seasons ago when we drew 2--2 (after being 2--0 up) that they were going under within 18 months. Looks like they weren't far wrong? They were totally disgusted with the way their club was being run. The current sell, sell sell (basically any player worth anything) policy was a clear message to them that Nunny were not building a team to challenge; rather a club being exploited financially for non football reasons. They gave the example of the Joe Mcquire transfer to us. He had been a steady, reliable, playmaking centre back for them. Most of them wanted to keep him to play along side a taller centre half, due to Joe's ability on the deck. As soon as other clubs (eventually us), showed interest in him the owner saw only the colour of cash & like all their other talent, Mcquire would be sold to allegedly help address nunnys serious debt situation?
What is fact is that all sorts of haggling & intrigue followed between BUFC & Nunny over the Joe Mcquire transfer. They obviously held out for as much as they could possibly get for him. Baring in mind we had just missed out on a play off final we really should have been in , & had just had 3 excellent seasons in the CN. DG had convinced Mcquire he was coming here to win promotion with us. Greedy Nunny played out that on 2 the max & got a decent fee for Joe out of us that was never disclosed by either club. It's just an example of a selling club thats chickens as they always do come home to roost. I know their fans said they had sold about 5/6 of their best in a pre/early season period 2015/16 & 17 & where had the dosh gone? Also when if ever was their new ground happening? They weren't optimistic regarding any positive future for their club ,& they weren't wrong.
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Did Joe end up at Buxton, was he released at the end of the season?
I remember him going out on loan there.
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He's at Trinity now.
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So we paid money for him and he's at Trinity now. That was an excellent bit of business, did Murray bring him here in the first place?
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No, he was a DG signing in summer 2016... I believe Murray's first game in charge at FCUM was Maguire's last as he got injured, and didn't play for us again.
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Manager sacked via Twitter
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Not quite the case is it?
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Coventry v Derby C played a friendly at Nuneaton last night .
Ref finished game early because of bad light due to floodlight failure .
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More to the point, why were Nuneaton Town permitted to use the name of the old, defunct club? If you read their Wikipedia page it's quite misleading as it seems this Nuneaton side are the same one who were around in the 1930s, which isn't the case.
Allowing phoenix clubs to reclaim the history of previous clubs is a very dangerous game: it means clubs will no longer fear the nuclear option of liquidation and feel there are no long term consequences for being run into the ground. They can just start again as many times as they like, carrying on as though nothing happened apart from a pesky demotion. We all suffer as a result of this kind of irresponsibility (and indeed may ourselves become victims of unscrupulous owners).
And if this is FA policy now, what the hell is the point of forcing new clubs to change their name in the first place?
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Good point. How can we find out what the FA's Policy actually is now?
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Interesting reading on their fans forum. Not all the fans believe the stories of the floodlight generator being vandalised. Could be playing home games at Rugby or Tamworth. Why a generator anyway, can’t they be connected to the main electrical supply. All seems rather strange.
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Maybe no electrical supply companies will touch them after they went bust...
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The good thing is our home fixture against them is early season , cannot see then lasting the season .
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Good point. How can we find out what the FA's Policy actually is now?
That's assuming they even have a policy. I suspect they just make it up as they go along. Clubs should not be allowed to think that liquidation is a temporary inconvenience. It isn't - it's the end of your club, full stop.
Quite why the FA have apparently abandoned this deterrent is beyond me. Non-league football is being increasingly ruined by money as it is and as such the authorities should be doing everything in their power to ensure there's no easy get-out for clubs knowingly run into the ground. Sure, a few fans suffer (as we nearly did) but the integrity of the game is more important.
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Seen the highlights of Coventry v Derby from Wednesday night. Well done both teams for playing on without floodlights. Nuneaton appear to have serious issues - now that is an understatement!
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Don’t clubs have to satisfy the league they are in that they have the finances, ground etc to fulfill the seasons games. Surely there must be serious concerns whether Nuneaton will be able to do that, if you look at the fans Facebook page there seems to be some disagreement with the rugby club which it looks like own the ground to the point of them blocking access to the turnstiles only a week ago.
As ever it’s the fans that suffer and if I was a Nunny fan I would be really concerned.
Are you out there Moley for a take on what’s happening.
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Don’t clubs have to satisfy the league they are in that they have the finances, ground etc to fulfill the seasons games. Surely there must be serious concerns whether Nuneaton will be able to do that, if you look at the fans Facebook page there seems to be some disagreement with the rugby club which it looks like own the ground to the point of them blocking access to the turnstiles only a week ago.
As ever it’s the fans that suffer and if I was a Nunny fan I would be really concerned.
Are you out there Moley for a take on what’s happening.
They had the same issue in the season where there gates got blocked. They had to play a game with part of the ground closed due to limited access
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Ilkeston had similar problems a couple of years back. They couldn't pay the leccy bill and tried to run it off generators with disastrous results. Several floodlight failures
, no power to the social club, alarms tripping out every time supply failed. If non payment of bills is an issue it usually escalates. Go knows what fate awaits them. Hope it's ok for the long suffering fans
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Reading Nunny fans forum a few minutes ago they have a potential buyer for the ground .
Reading the details I think it is goodbye Nunny , happy returns Blues .
All players have been told they can leave , one gone to day to Brackley .
Players been told they need not turn up for training thus saving them the expense of travel .
Gainsborough entitled to be bitter .
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Not good GHM. If it goes pear shape that's 3 points we have lost
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Gainsborough entitled to be bitter .
Not really.. had they not finished in the relegation zone there would be no doubt they could have stayed up!
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£6,250 player wage bill a week, wonder how that compares to BUFC. 1 players just left that was on £400 a week, do we pay that level or more, scary if we are.
Reading the chairman’s statement they will most likely be gone within the month. Everyone could see this happening at the end of last season after the floodlight debacle and being locked out the ground.
A club that didn’t learn its lesson from previous bankruptcy and was allowed to repeat the same mistakes again and again. Something that’s always on my mind when we are pleading for the chairman to spend big to give us success.
How lucky we are the Chestnuts came to town when they did.
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I think most teams pray that NUNNY fold before the winter .
How many players would fancy a COLD SHOWER on a Saturday afternoon in the winter ?
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If they dropped out today it would drop us to 7th with a 3 point reduction. Telford, Bradford and Chester haven't played them yet, so wouldn't lose anything, and would therefore go above us.
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Nunny never had a game yesterday, was this on the fixture list or could they not raise a team?
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Nunny never had a game yesterday, was this on the fixture list or could they not raise a team?
Postponed due to international call ups.
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£6,250 player wage bill a week, wonder how that compares to BUFC. 1 players just left that was on £400 a week, do we pay that level or more, scary if we are.
Reading the chairman’s statement they will most likely be gone within the month. Everyone could see this happening at the end of last season after the floodlight debacle and being locked out the ground.
A club that didn’t learn its lesson from previous bankruptcy and was allowed to repeat the same mistakes again and again. Something that’s always on my mind when we are pleading for the chairman to spend big to give us success.
How lucky we are the Chestnuts came to town when they did.
Reading the AGM financial results from 2016/7 wages were about 330,000... An increase of nearly 100k on the Ferriby playoffs season before it
Suspect it was higher last season and even higher this season
That said, largely due to Craig working magic with sponsorship deals so we could afford to do this
I bet our weekly budget is between 8 and 10 grand a week.
A lot!
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£6,250 player wage bill a week, wonder how that compares to BUFC. 1 players just left that was on £400 a week, do we pay that level or more, scary if we are.
Reading the chairman’s statement they will most likely be gone within the month. Everyone could see this happening at the end of last season after the floodlight debacle and being locked out the ground.
A club that didn’t learn its lesson from previous bankruptcy and was allowed to repeat the same mistakes again and again. Something that’s always on my mind when we are pleading for the chairman to spend big to give us success.
How lucky we are the Chestnuts came to town when they did.
Reading the AGM financial results from 2016/7 wages were about 330,000... An increase of nearly 100k on the Ferriby playoffs season before it
Suspect it was higher last season and even higher this season
That said, largely due to Craig working magic with sponsorship deals so we could afford to do this
I bet our weekly budget is between 8 and 10 grand a week.
A lot!
Much bigger than l thought it was, nice to have a chat with you down John Adams way yesterday.
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£6,250 player wage bill a week, wonder how that compares to BUFC. 1 players just left that was on £400 a week, do we pay that level or more, scary if we are.
Reading the chairman’s statement they will most likely be gone within the month. Everyone could see this happening at the end of last season after the floodlight debacle and being locked out the ground.
A club that didn’t learn its lesson from previous bankruptcy and was allowed to repeat the same mistakes again and again. Something that’s always on my mind when we are pleading for the chairman to spend big to give us success.
How lucky we are the Chestnuts came to town when they did.
Reading the AGM financial results from 2016/7 wages were about 330,000... An increase of nearly 100k on the Ferriby playoffs season before it
Suspect it was higher last season and even higher this season
That said, largely due to Craig working magic with sponsorship deals so we could afford to do this
I bet our weekly budget is between 8 and 10 grand a week.
A lot!
Many underestimate Craig's value to the club , good that Josh gives us all a reminder .
Re: the 2016/17 wages of £330k an increase of £100k the previous season , this validates DN comment that Greene was over achieving .
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£6,250 player wage bill a week, wonder how that compares to BUFC. 1 players just left that was on £400 a week, do we pay that level or more, scary if we are.
Reading the chairman’s statement they will most likely be gone within the month. Everyone could see this happening at the end of last season after the floodlight debacle and being locked out the ground.
A club that didn’t learn its lesson from previous bankruptcy and was allowed to repeat the same mistakes again and again. Something that’s always on my mind when we are pleading for the chairman to spend big to give us success.
How lucky we are the Chestnuts came to town when they did.
Reading the AGM financial results from 2016/7 wages were about 330,000... An increase of nearly 100k on the Ferriby playoffs season before it
Suspect it was higher last season and even higher this season
That said, largely due to Craig working magic with sponsorship deals so we could afford to do this
I bet our weekly budget is between 8 and 10 grand a week.
A lot!
Many underestimate Craig's value to the club , good that Josh gives us all a reminder .
Re: the 2016/17 wages of £330k an increase of £100k the previous season , this validates DN comment that Greene was over achieving .
Spot on - Craig's value to the club is something we should all take the time to appreciate. Whatever he's paid, it's not enough!
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Established Step 2 players regularly get five or six hundred a week. Bostons big hitters will likely be on that sort of money although that will be eased by the departures of Marriott and Arnold
Allott will probably have been on 250 at Frickley I'd think. Problem at Boston seems to have been geography and the impact on a players pocket of petrol money
Seems lessons have been learnt re recruitment of 'superstars' with yesterday's result a prime example. Hopefully a longer term lesson too. Great performance too against an awful Blyth side
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£6,250 player wage bill a week, wonder how that compares to BUFC. 1 players just left that was on £400 a week, do we pay that level or more, scary if we are.
Reading the chairman’s statement they will most likely be gone within the month. Everyone could see this happening at the end of last season after the floodlight debacle and being locked out the ground.
A club that didn’t learn its lesson from previous bankruptcy and was allowed to repeat the same mistakes again and again. Something that’s always on my mind when we are pleading for the chairman to spend big to give us success.
How lucky we are the Chestnuts came to town when they did.
Reading the AGM financial results from 2016/7 wages were about 330,000... An increase of nearly 100k on the Ferriby playoffs season before it
Suspect it was higher last season and even higher this season
That said, largely due to Craig working magic with sponsorship deals so we could afford to do this
I bet our weekly budget is between 8 and 10 grand a week.
A lot!
Many underestimate Craig's value to the club , good that Josh gives us all a reminder .
Re: the 2016/17 wages of £330k an increase of £100k the previous season , this validates DN comment that Greene was over achieving .
Yes
2015/6 £240,000 wage bill
2016/7 £330,000 wage bill
2017/8 Unknown as yet but we did have a mini FA Cup run (albeit gates dropped by a further 5% or so)
2018/9- unknown as yet but suspect plenty high enough given an open league and gambling on a decent average gate
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The shady financial stuff has gone on there for at least 4/5 yrs, or more? Last season a couple of their fans reeled off a host of good players they had sold on for really good money over the past few years. Didn't Fylde pay them about 30 grand for Bradley a couple of seasons back? I remember them trying to get crazy cash out of us for Joe McGuire as well. I could be wrong here & will stand corrected....did they sell a site designated for a new stadium that was all planned: then get involved in the ground share fiascos??
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Talking to two supporters in the club before our home match with them, they said they had restricted access to their ground. The club could not go forward until full access was granted. I do not know any details.
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Didn't Fylde pay them about 30 grand for Bradley a couple of seasons back? I remember them trying to get crazy cash out of us for Joe McGuire as well.
Dan Bradley never played for Nuneaton - it was Alfreton where he moved from to go to Fylde, and is now at Kiddy.
I think we only paid a few grand for Maguire.
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Didn't Fylde pay them about 30 grand for Bradley a couple of seasons back? I remember them trying to get crazy cash out of us for Joe McGuire as well.
Dan Bradley never played for Nuneaton - it was Alfreton where he moved from to go to Fylde, and is now at Kiddy.
I think we only paid a few grand for Maguire.
Ta 4 sorting that Pilgrim 're DB. Nunny have sold any player they could get a fee for tho over past few seasons. Most of their fans are disgusted with the board. They are amazed they haven't folded b4 now.... Didn't we only get the play off place in Ferriby play off season because Nunny had points deducted?
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Didn't Fylde pay them about 30 grand for Bradley a couple of seasons back? I remember them trying to get crazy cash out of us for Joe McGuire as well.
Dan Bradley never played for Nuneaton - it was Alfreton where he moved from to go to Fylde, and is now at Kiddy.
I think we only paid a few grand for Maguire.
A bloody waste of money Maguire was.
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Didn't Fylde pay them about 30 grand for Bradley a couple of seasons back? I remember them trying to get crazy cash out of us for Joe McGuire as well.
Dan Bradley never played for Nuneaton - it was Alfreton where he moved from to go to Fylde, and is now at Kiddy.
I think we only paid a few grand for Maguire.
A bloody waste of money Maguire was.
Blimey. I didn't realise we actually paid a fee for Maguire.... I missed that one.
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Didn't Fylde pay them about 30 grand for Bradley a couple of seasons back? I remember them trying to get crazy cash out of us for Joe McGuire as well.
Dan Bradley never played for Nuneaton - it was Alfreton where he moved from to go to Fylde, and is now at Kiddy.
I think we only paid a few grand for Maguire.
Ta 4 sorting that Pilgrim 're DB. Nunny have sold any player they could get a fee for tho over past few seasons. Most of their fans are disgusted with the board. They are amazed they haven't folded b4 now.... Didn't we only get the play off place in Ferriby play off season because Nunny had points deducted?
They sold a couple to Peterborough - they had a decent relationship with them because I think Barry Fry's son was involved at Nuneaton.
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Didn't Fylde pay them about 30 grand for Bradley a couple of seasons back? I remember them trying to get crazy cash out of us for Joe McGuire as well.
Dan Bradley never played for Nuneaton - it was Alfreton where he moved from to go to Fylde, and is now at Kiddy.
I think we only paid a few grand for Maguire.
A bloody waste of money Maguire was.
Blimey. I didn't realise we actually paid a fee for Maguire.... I missed that one.
Think I read somewhere we paid £10,000 for him. Maybe the manager thought we were getting one of his brothers😅
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Didn't Fylde pay them about 30 grand for Bradley a couple of seasons back? I remember them trying to get crazy cash out of us for Joe McGuire as well.
Dan Bradley never played for Nuneaton - it was Alfreton where he moved from to go to Fylde, and is now at Kiddy.
I think we only paid a few grand for Maguire.
A bloody waste of money Maguire was.
Blimey. I didn't realise we actually paid a fee for Maguire.... I missed that one.
Think I read somewhere we paid £10,000 for him. Maybe the manager thought we were getting one of his brothers😅
Bloody must have done, l remember Greg Smith absolutely smashing him when we played Stamford in a friendly, and of course his sending off against Kettering in our FA cup defeat to them.
He was a huge let down, not as bad as Arnold and Marriott,but still a let down.
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There's probably a good thread to be had in biggest let downs/disappointments of all time.
Personally, Nathan Arnold has surely got to be up there, but I also remember thinking Carl Smaller was going to absolutely rip the Unibond a new one back in the 90s after his move from Town and... well....
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Kevin Slinn for me - scored bags full for Raunds Town and looked pretty good pre-season then absolutely nothing
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Gary Porter.
The Fatwah proclaimed he could put a ball on a toadstool from 60 yards.
Needless to say he was gone by the end of September.
Shame old Fatwah didn't follow him really.
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Jim Dick, the first ever "best midfielder in our league!" . Fatty McFraud built him up, put a label/target on his back, and from then on he was doomed. Can't think where I've seen this exact scenario more recently?😁
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willy gamble enough said!!!!
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willy gamble enough said!!!!
Now we are on the same wavelength here.
Bloody awful he was.
"Willy Gamble's Boots" who remembers that?
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Didn't Evans pay £15,000 for a defender Mark Freeman, who never then played for the club because he was injured?
Leon Constantine and Miguel de Souza also underwhelmed.
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Kevin Hector - never went into a challenge even when the ball was 60/40 in his favour.
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http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/nuneatontownfc/news/club-statement-introducing-our-new-owner-2363673.html
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Pleased they have a new man at the top, after all we were there a few years back. I like the idea of the man of the match presentation in the club bar afterwards. These days there is so little interaction with the players, when i was a teenager going into the Sports Bar was great as all the players were mingling, and it created a great atmosphere.
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Mmmmm, if i'd have been booed all match by my own supporters, would I want to 'mingle' in the bar with them after the game? Nah. ::) ::) ::)