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Title: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: Cavalier on March 19, 2018, 10:27:31 PM
Several lower placed teams will slug it out in the next few games, beginning the scrap to keep clear of the play-off places.

Tomorrow night Gainsborough (21) are away at FCUM (18) and Telford (20) are away at Alfreton (17)
On Saturday Curzon (19) are home to Tamworth (16)
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on March 21, 2018, 09:11:49 AM
The alarming manner in which our form has collapsed means we're now in as much danger of going down as at any time under AM's reign (although the mini-revival under Elliott has spared us from the indignity being cast adrift at the bottom and essentially relegated already). With some really tough games to come, this might well go down to the wire on the last day v Telford.
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: Lee Newell on March 21, 2018, 09:19:53 AM
Wow, just noticed we're only 3 points off a relegation spot. We've got some tough games coming up too.
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: oxo on March 21, 2018, 09:55:37 AM
"So, Having read the opinions of lots of Stockport fans it appears they like us found our goalkeeper "A joke". "A ridiculous time waster from the first minute". And some descriptions I will not put on here. In my opinion he must be dropped as it is clear he is costing us points and defenders have no confidence in him. Yes there are others not good enough and I hate singling anyone out but it is so clear to see. Personally I think we will be okay but it is worrying.  UTP.
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: Tash on March 21, 2018, 10:13:50 AM
IMO we need 9 more points (out of 30)to avoid the drop if we can’t achieve that total then we will deserve to be relegated. In the words of Corporal Jones
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Don’t panic Mr Elliott
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on March 21, 2018, 11:15:11 AM
Wins away at Chorley and Brackley in our next two games should see us through. Very confident we'll win both of these.

TEP
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: St Botolphs on March 21, 2018, 12:50:43 PM
Good point oxo , still not clear on Elliot’s philosophy though in his after match interview. He’s happy with things at the moment, we played for a 0-0 ( strange since we haven’t kept a clean sheet this year). He says for 8 years he is used to managing a winning team so maybe shaw lane didn’t have to do much defending, so why fetch there goalie and main defender at a cost to us, we had just won all 4 games in December and appeared to have turned the corner, our last clean sheet Boxing Day. Since then Stewart and Qualter have played all 8 games resulting in no clean sheets and no winin the last five.
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: tom and jerry on March 21, 2018, 01:53:15 PM
There's a massive difference between the NPL and this league. Nothing wrong with Willis. Experience at this level which current gk isn't I don't think. Mind you, there was not not much wrong with Durrant and money was paid to bring Willis in to replace him. Folks my old game. One things for sure, current side is in just as much danger of relegation at this stage as the lot who were written off as not good enough by many this time last season

Big difference is the wage bill is now much much higher and the club is no further forward
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: green hats mate on March 21, 2018, 02:50:50 PM
At  least if we are better prepared for relegation with CE having had success in lower leagues .
Two seasons of misery now , low morale , low expectations and declining gates , 
None of us seem to know the answer as to why .

Maybe the vociferous band  of supporters who convinced DN that replacing a manager would improve on play-off positions previously achieved and improve gates can tell  us .?
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on March 21, 2018, 03:22:30 PM
At  least if we are better prepared for relegation with CE having had success in lower leagues .
Two seasons of misery now , low morale , low expectations and declining gates , 
None of us seem to know the answer as to why .

Maybe the vociferous band  of supporters who convinced DN that replacing a manager would improve on play-off positions previously achieved and improve gates can tell  us .?

I think the primary objection of the anti-Den 'army' was about his off-field behaviour. Both AM and CE have been exemplary in that regard (thus far).
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: Dipdodah on March 21, 2018, 05:12:05 PM
I do not know if it is a coincidence, but things have took a downward turn since the Grimsby alleged interest.
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: youngchubby69 on March 21, 2018, 05:26:19 PM
 I don't think the Grimsby things has any bearing, it's more to do with other teams playing better than us, we are wasteful in front of goal, and our keeper is poor.
The defence is not good enough, the defence went down hill as soon as Ben Middleton left.
But he is back now so things should get better in that department.
But after our next two games we will be in the relegation places.
I still think we will go down, and that's really our level.
We have to face up to it now, prepare yourself for it,as it is coming.
We are a struggling club on and off the field, the new stadium is just a pipe dream really.
It will be built eventually but not in the next 5 years, and not by the chestnuts.
I have lost total faith in it all.
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: tom and jerry on March 21, 2018, 07:06:56 PM
The manager admitted in his interview that he didn't go to Stockport to try and win the game

That admission is startling. He doesn't think his team is good enough to even try to win

Just sums up where the once great club currently sits

Lack of ambition when there is nothing to lose. Very disappointing and negative. Only one way someone with that approach will take the club
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on March 21, 2018, 07:40:27 PM
There's a massive difference between the NPL and this league. Nothing wrong with Willis. Experience at this level which current gk isn't I don't think. Mind you, there was not not much wrong with Durrant and money was paid to bring Willis in to replace him. Folks my old game. One things for sure, current side is in just as much danger of relegation at this stage as the lot who were written off as not good enough by many this time last season

Big difference is the wage bill is now much much higher and the club is no further forward

Hoe much more is the wage bill now ? I'd be interested to see the figures if you are able to share ?
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: green hats mate on March 21, 2018, 07:58:46 PM
I don't think the Grimsby things has any bearing, it's more to do with other teams playing better than us, we are wasteful in front of goal, and our keeper is poor.
The defence is not good enough, the defence went down hill as soon as Ben Middleton left.
But he is back now so things should get better in that department.
But after our next two games we will be in the relegation places.
I still think we will go down, and that's really our level.
We have to face up to it now, prepare yourself for it,as it is coming.
We are a struggling club on and off the field, the new stadium is just a pipe dream really.
It will be built eventually but not in the next 5 years, and not by the chestnuts.
I have lost total faith in it all.
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Agree with your Grimsby and poor players comments chubby , at the moment we have not the players to fulfil the fans expectations .    We will have to wait until the summer to see what qaulity players CE can get in .
Hopefully the Stadium will be built in less time than you forcast ,  then again it may not be up to some fans extravagant expectations .  If as planned Chestnuts pass on the club on leaving  YS it will be a big game changer for the club . 

If my memory is correct unless a sugar daddy steps in it we be the first time in the last 50 years that the club wil have had to stand on it's own feet .    Over those years it has been financed by the generosity of the Malkinson family , Chestnuts and at the pinnacle of our history the HMRC . :(

Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: oxo on March 21, 2018, 08:24:13 PM
I don't think the Grimsby things has any bearing, it's more to do with other teams playing better than us, we are wasteful in front of goal, and our keeper is poor.
The defence is not good enough, the defence went down hill as soon as Ben Middleton left.
But he is back now so things should get better in that department.
But after our next two games we will be in the relegation places.
I still think we will go down, and that's really our level.
We have to face up to it now, prepare yourself for it,as it is coming.
We are a struggling club on and off the field, the new stadium is just a pipe dream really.
It will be built eventually but not in the next 5 years, and not by the chestnuts.
I have lost total faith in it all.


If you have lost all faith and are convinced we will be relegated go watch somebody else and stop your moaning and groaning on here, it's at these times we need to be behind the club not trying to make everyone else as miserable as you.  UTP.
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: oxo on March 21, 2018, 08:29:14 PM
There's a massive difference between the NPL and this league. Nothing wrong with Willis. Experience at this level which current gk isn't I don't think. Mind you, there was not not much wrong with Durrant and money was paid to bring Willis in to replace him. Folks my old game. One things for sure, current side is in just as much danger of relegation at this stage as the lot who were written off as not good enough by many this time last season

Big difference is the wage bill is now much much higher and the club is no further forward


Not being as well informed as you appear to be will you please tell us all what the wage structure is now and what it was before Craig arrived?.
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: Champs next year on March 22, 2018, 07:59:10 AM
At  least if we are better prepared for relegation with CE having had success in lower leagues .
Two seasons of misery now , low morale , low expectations and declining gates , 
None of us seem to know the answer as to why .

Maybe the vociferous band  of supporters who convinced DN that replacing a manager would improve on play-off positions previously achieved and improve gates can tell  us .?

Excellent post GHM. I have had a break from social media. Still a lifelong season ticket holder with BUFC running through the veins like yourself & most on here. Your theory on the financial aspect of Relegation v Promotion (at present) was indeed Correct. Like u said I've done the maths! Yes I got a bit passionate re: the "R" word, but hey mate your a bit longer in the tooth & like the rest of us nothing at the moment can assure us we WILL have a good enough back 5 to keep us in this League????
You have rationaley stated on here since DG walked that the manager who achieved more ON THE PITCH than DG would be hard to find?? Greene's history at BUFC is his Legacy & those oh so near play off defeats & rapid attacking football was great 2 watch. YES I was critical of that last half season, when he lost a Team! Yes it was tough & tearful at Fylde to take a 9-2 defeat. Rather remember the previous 3 seasons!! Where are we NOW? Any further forward? Remaining fixtures all cup finals! Lap of the Gods? Boston Loyal. X
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: howmanynames2pick on March 22, 2018, 05:02:56 PM
the last 5 results of 3 losses and two draws are not good reading... up coming fixtures against teams challenging to go up are going to be a big test..
been on the wrong end of some 0-1's .. hopefully get on the right side :)
as OXO says UTP
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: Fishtoft Crew on March 22, 2018, 05:48:44 PM
I still maintain the boss is using these games to have a real look to see if they are up for it. Next season when he can hit the ground running is when i will judge, not when hes come in and tried to rebuild mid season, hes earnt that due to the fantastic run we had.
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: oxo on March 22, 2018, 08:12:08 PM
I still maintain the boss is using these games to have a real look to see if they are up for it. Next season when he can hit the ground running is when i will judge, not when hes come in and tried to rebuild mid season, hes earnt that due to the fantastic run we had.


Couldn't agree more. FC
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: Dipdodah on March 22, 2018, 09:12:57 PM
I am not worried one iota, CE will see us safe.
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: delbar on March 22, 2018, 09:30:41 PM
I still maintain the boss is using these games to have a real look to see if they are up for it. Next season when he can hit the ground running is when i will judge, not when hes come in and tried to rebuild mid season, hes earnt that due to the fantastic run we had.

Tend to agree, feel the team will look very different next season, many departures through choice, and some not so much.

Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: Champs next year on March 22, 2018, 10:30:47 PM
I sincerely hope CE can fully assembled his own squad next pre season & that we are still playing in the Conference North. I like his calm demeanor & attitude. His success record albeit lower level is excellent. That fantastic run he took us on has given us a chance of staying in this league. With Ferribye gone we are Scrapping like hell not to be one of the other 2 to go down. Some are saying we may need 9 more PTS to stay up?? The remaining fixtures look tough.
 Chorley (a) , Brackley (a) , Kiddi (h) , Nunny (a) , Darlington (a) , Spennymoor (a), BPA (h) , Harrogate (h), Salford (a) , finishing with Telford at home.

I'm backing a squeaky arse escape job but it may be a winner takes all v Telford last game at York Street?
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: youngchubby69 on March 23, 2018, 05:32:07 AM
I don't think the Grimsby things has any bearing, it's more to do with other teams playing better than us, we are wasteful in front of goal, and our keeper is poor.
The defence is not good enough, the defence went down hill as soon as Ben Middleton left.
But he is back now so things should get better in that department.
But after our next two games we will be in the relegation places.
I still think we will go down, and that's really our level.
We have to face up to it now, prepare yourself for it,as it is coming.
We are a struggling club on and off the field, the new stadium is just a pipe dream really.
It will be built eventually but not in the next 5 years, and not by the chestnuts.
I have lost total faith in it all.


If you have lost all faith and are convinced we will be relegated go watch somebody else and stop your moaning and groaning on here, it's at these times we need to be behind the club not trying to make everyone else as miserable as you.  UTP.
I am not a moaner or miserable, and l support this club.
So like you I have the right to voice my opinion, I see in a previous post of yours you were too being negative about our keeper.
So I will not go and moan somewhere else thanks.
But I will not view our situation through rose tinted spectacles.
But we may have to prepare ourselves for the worst.
UTP
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on March 23, 2018, 08:18:41 AM
Another result in our favour last night with Leamington losing.

TEP
Title: Re: The relegation scrap is on
Post by: Finchley Tiger on March 23, 2018, 10:04:37 AM
There's a massive difference between the NPL and this league. Nothing wrong with Willis. Experience at this level which current gk isn't I don't think. Mind you, there was not not much wrong with Durrant and money was paid to bring Willis in to replace him. Folks my old game. One things for sure, current side is in just as much danger of relegation at this stage as the lot who were written off as not good enough by many this time last season

Big difference is the wage bill is now much much higher and the club is no further forward

Jon Stewart does have experience at this level. He left Worksop to join Bradford Park Avenue where he was the regular 'keeper for a season (maybe slightly longer) until he joined Shaw Lane. He also played in over 30 games for Alfreton in the Conference National.