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Title: Dennis Greene
Post by: Steviemas on January 16, 2018, 12:44:45 PM
New Boston Town manager : ;D
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: delbar on January 16, 2018, 01:07:35 PM
One way to get yourself a managers job!

Feel sorry for Frosty and hope he get another job around that level.

Good luck to Boston Town though.

Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Pilgrim86 on January 16, 2018, 01:41:01 PM
Hostile takeover?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: kingofnaves on January 16, 2018, 02:34:15 PM
Great to see Den back in football. Just wondered if all his admirers will drift towards Tattershall Rd on a Saturday.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: The Third Twin on January 16, 2018, 04:23:29 PM
New Boston Town manager : ;D
good luck to them!
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: kingofnaves on January 16, 2018, 04:37:21 PM
Just wondered if Bunny will join him?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: youngchubby69 on January 16, 2018, 05:04:59 PM
Very good appointment for them.
Good luck Dennis.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: green hats mate on January 16, 2018, 05:53:16 PM
Sounds interesting times at Town with Paul Wilkinson on the board we should see some new ideas from a successful local business .

Credit to  Mick Vines for his hard work and backing over the years.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: youngchubby69 on January 16, 2018, 06:34:23 PM
Sounds interesting times at Town with Paul Wilkinson on the board we should see some new ideas from a successful local business .

Credit to  Mick Vines for his hard work and backing over the tears .
What business does Mr Wilkinson own GHM, I am no familiar with him.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Pilgrim86 on January 16, 2018, 07:12:44 PM
Sounds interesting times at Town with Paul Wilkinson on the board we should see some new ideas from a successful local business .

Credit to  Mick Vines for his hard work and backing over the tears .
What business does Mr Wilkinson own GHM, I am no familiar with him.

https://companycheck.co.uk/director/913317678/PAUL--WILKINSON/companies
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Tash on January 16, 2018, 07:15:33 PM
Sounds interesting times at Town with Paul Wilkinson on the board we should see some new ideas from a successful local business .

Credit to  Mick Vines for his hard work and backing over the tears .
What business does Mr Wilkinson own GHM, I am no familiar with him.

Is he the guy behind the Waterfall Plaza?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: mike brolly boots on January 16, 2018, 08:59:45 PM
Good luck to DG wish him all the best
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Cavalier on January 16, 2018, 09:37:31 PM
Sounds interesting times at Town with Paul Wilkinson on the board we should see some new ideas from a successful local business .

Credit to  Mick Vines for his hard work and backing over the tears .
What business does Mr Wilkinson own GHM, I am no familiar with him.

Is he the guy behind the Waterfall Plaza?

I heard he's sold it.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Burgh Boy on January 17, 2018, 08:44:55 AM
Good appointment for our friends at Boston Town. However, feel sorry for Frosty who did a great job there and I hope he can get back into football management asap.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: noughtyforties on January 17, 2018, 09:09:38 AM
I just wonder if we missed a trick by not courting Mr Wilkinson as a potential addition to the board? An excellent local businessman with good contacts.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on January 17, 2018, 10:51:41 AM
I just wonder if we missed a trick by not courting Mr Wilkinson as a potential addition to the board? An excellent local businessman with good contacts.

But what would he bring to the party that Newton and Kempster don't already have?

If it was "investment" he'd want a slice of the Quandrant pie in return. I can imagine Newton's response to that proposal would be unprintable.

I think our chairman is perfectly happy running the club in the benign dictatorship mould, and the absolute last thing he'd want right now is a local businessman sticking his oar in.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: green hats mate on January 17, 2018, 01:07:03 PM
I just wonder if we missed a trick by not courting Mr Wilkinson as a potential addition to the board? An excellent local businessman with good contacts.

I think it may well come in the fairly near future Andy , a man with great business acumen and also a genuine football fan .
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on January 17, 2018, 01:12:21 PM
I just wonder if we missed a trick by not courting Mr Wilkinson as a potential addition to the board? An excellent local businessman with good contacts.

I think it may well come in the fairly near future Andy , a man with great business acumen and also a genuine football fan .

Which would contradict everything that's been said about Wilkinson eventually taking over from Mick Vines as chairman and Town being a 'long term' project.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: youngchubby69 on January 17, 2018, 05:36:46 PM
Don't the chestnuts own the land that Boston town's ground is on, I thought I would just throw that in the mix.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Bostonshire on January 17, 2018, 06:53:45 PM
Don't the chestnuts own the land that Boston town's ground is on, I thought I would just throw that in the mix.

Its listed on there asset files for 3/4 years now. about the time the new lease was agreed by Boston town
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: green hats mate on January 17, 2018, 07:46:42 PM
I just wonder if we missed a trick by not courting Mr Wilkinson as a potential addition to the board? An excellent local businessman with good contacts.

I think it may well come in the fairly near future Andy , a man with great business acumen and also a genuine football fan .

Three years is considered long term in football !!!
Which would contradict everything that's been said about Wilkinson eventually taking over from Mick Vines as chairman and Town being a 'long term' project.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on January 18, 2018, 07:56:04 AM
But why would Wilkinson chuck a load of money in to Town only to abandon his "project" there and chuck a load more money at United after a couple of years? That makes literally no sense.

If anything, the sums he finds himself having to plough into Town to drag them up a couple of divisions will mean he won't want to touch us - or any other club - with a bargepole come 2021... he may well be a successful local businessman, but there are clubs in our sphere owned by people in the £200m+ wealth bracket.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: green hats mate on January 18, 2018, 10:14:06 AM
But why would Wilkinson chuck a load of money in to Town only to abandon his "project" there and chuck a load more money at United after a couple of years? That makes literally no sense.

If anything, the sums he finds himself having to plough into Town to drag them up a couple of divisions will mean he won't want to touch us - or any other club - with a bargepole come 2021... he may well be a successful local businessman, but there are clubs in our sphere owned by people in the £200m+ wealth bracket.

Don't think anyone will have to find a load of money to buy BUFC .  David Newton has said all along he will hand the club over debt free , add the fact that the club will not own any valuable assets .

Paul Wilkinson is a very astute business man as the records prove .    Unlike most owners who puts pots of money into clubs I feel sure he would be hands on and work to a sustainable business plan .
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Steelihat on January 18, 2018, 10:55:21 PM
But why would Wilkinson chuck a load of money in to Town only to abandon his "project" there and chuck a load more money at United after a couple of years? That makes literally no sense.

If anything, the sums he finds himself having to plough into Town to drag them up a couple of divisions will mean he won't want to touch us - or any other club - with a bargepole come 2021... he may well be a successful local businessman, but there are clubs in our sphere owned by people in the £200m+ wealth bracket.

Don't think anyone will have to find a load of money to buy BUFC .  David Newton has said all along he will hand the club over debt free , add the fact that the club will not own any valuable assets .

Paul Wilkinson is a very astute business man as the records prove .    Unlike most owners who puts pots of money into clubs I feel sure he would be hands on and work to a sustainable business plan .

Running a club with no debts or assets is not an easy task (ask our chairman)
Your new ground will be owned by someone else, and you will have a lease on it. DN has subsidised BUFC’s budget every year since he took over. Your new owner will need to at least guarantee any shortfall, and as this league is getting even more ridiculous with stupid budgets -then the job is not for the faint hearted
Good business acumen and good luck are needed in equal measure
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Lee Newell on January 19, 2018, 07:11:56 AM
DN has mentioned before that the aim is that the new ground will generate additional revenue from corporate facilities etc that we do not have at York Street and this will hopefully plug the shortfall that DN currently has to put his hand in his pocket for.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Tash on January 19, 2018, 08:44:18 AM
Not forgetting the rent at the moment is £75000 and will be nothing like that when we move. The shortfall will be considerably less than it is now,if it isn’t who would take it on?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on January 19, 2018, 10:11:31 AM
But why would Wilkinson chuck a load of money in to Town only to abandon his "project" there and chuck a load more money at United after a couple of years? That makes literally no sense.

If anything, the sums he finds himself having to plough into Town to drag them up a couple of divisions will mean he won't want to touch us - or any other club - with a bargepole come 2021... he may well be a successful local businessman, but there are clubs in our sphere owned by people in the £200m+ wealth bracket.

Don't think anyone will have to find a load of money to buy BUFC .  David Newton has said all along he will hand the club over debt free , add the fact that the club will not own any valuable assets .

Paul Wilkinson is a very astute business man as the records prove .    Unlike most owners who puts pots of money into clubs I feel sure he would be hands on and work to a sustainable business plan .

Running a club with no debts or assets is not an easy task (ask our chairman)
Your new ground will be owned by someone else, and you will have a lease on it. DN has subsidised BUFC’s budget every year since he took over. Your new owner will need to at least guarantee any shortfall, and as this league is getting even more ridiculous with stupid budgets -then the job is not for the faint hearted
Good business acumen and good luck are needed in equal measure

As I understand it (and happy to be set right if I've misunderstood this), while you are technically correct, the new ground is supposed to be placed into community ownership with the club paying a peppercorn rent for its use - hopefully safeguarding it from ever falling into the hands of one individual (as was thankfully averted at Trinity). The revenue from the community facilities will go towards their upkeep and that of the stadium. I doubt they will be sufficient to run the football club to the extent that we will be entirely self-sufficient, but they will at least reduce the burden.

That's the theory anyway....
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Pilgrim86 on January 19, 2018, 11:24:28 AM
As I understand it (and happy to be set right if I've misunderstood this), while you are technically correct, the new ground is supposed to be placed into community ownership

Correct. The planning application for the stadium was made "...made on behalf of Chestnut Homes (Land) Ltd and Boston United Football Club Community Interest Company...".

http://thequadrantboston.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/DAS-Community-Stadium.pdf
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: youngchubby69 on January 19, 2018, 01:58:29 PM
But why would Wilkinson chuck a load of money in to Town only to abandon his "project" there and chuck a load more money at United after a couple of years? That makes literally no sense.

If anything, the sums he finds himself having to plough into Town to drag them up a couple of divisions will mean he won't want to touch us - or any other club - with a bargepole come 2021... he may well be a successful local businessman, but there are clubs in our sphere owned by people in the £200m+ wealth bracket.

Don't think anyone will have to find a load of money to buy BUFC .  David Newton has said all along he will hand the club over debt free , add the fact that the club will not own any valuable assets .

Paul Wilkinson is a very astute business man as the records prove .    Unlike most owners who puts pots of money into clubs I feel sure he would be hands on and work to a sustainable business plan .

Running a club with no debts or assets is not an easy task (ask our chairman)
Your new ground will be owned by someone else, and you will have a lease on it. DN has subsidised BUFC’s budget every year since he took over. Your new owner will need to at least guarantee any shortfall, and as this league is getting even more ridiculous with stupid budgets -then the job is not for the faint hearted
Good business acumen and good luck are needed in equal measure

I really do think that Trinity are in a better financial position than Boston, at least you have assets (your ground) and the best business acumen was shown by yourselves by not selling the ground to Mr Swan, because whether you agree or disagree with his intentions, he truly showed his true colours in the end"which were not Blue" when he could not get his hands on what he truly wanted.
Maybe he would have honoured his promise and built you another ground , but there was always the risk he wouldn't once he got his hands on a prime piece of development land.
The same would have happened to Boston if the Malkinson family had sold out to dodgy Evans and Sotnick, you have only got to look at Darlington now to know what a conman Sotnick is.
Boston will in the future be owned by the community, the ground anyway, but I would imagine we will need a private investment to give us a decent budget, I don't see the new stadium providing the income on its own.

Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: green hats mate on January 19, 2018, 02:13:21 PM
But why would Wilkinson chuck a load of money in to Town only to abandon his "project" there and chuck a load more money at United after a couple of years? That makes literally no sense.

If anything, the sums he finds himself having to plough into Town to drag them up a couple of divisions will mean he won't want to touch us - or any other club - with a bargepole come 2021... he may well be a successful local businessman, but there are clubs in our sphere owned by people in the £200m+ wealth bracket.

Don't think anyone will have to find a load of money to buy BUFC .  David Newton has said all along he will hand the club over debt free , add the fact that the club will not own any valuable assets .

Paul Wilkinson is a very astute business man as the records prove .    Unlike most owners who puts pots of money into clubs I feel sure he would be hands on and work to a sustainable business plan .

Running a club with no debts or assets is not an easy task (ask our chairman)
Your new ground will be owned by someone else, and you will have a lease on it. DN has subsidised BUFC’s budget every year since he took over. Your new owner will need to at least guarantee any shortfall, and as this league is getting even more ridiculous with stupid budgets -then the job is not for the faint hearted
Good business acumen and good luck are needed in equal measure

As others have pointed out the new ground will be at a peppercorn rent thus lowering the overheads .
As for the other points you make Steeli they cannot be questioned .   People mention extra income streams when we move ,  what are they and what income are they likely to bring ?  I suggest nowhere near the £150K a year Chestnuts put in ( remember R & D ).   

Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Pilgrim86 on January 19, 2018, 04:09:55 PM
I really do think that Trinity are in a better financial position than Boston, at least you have assets (your ground)

The football club do not own the ground - The Northolme is owned by the supporters club (Blues Club).
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on January 20, 2018, 01:11:08 PM
I really do think that Trinity are in a better financial position than Boston, at least you have assets (your ground)

The football club do not own the ground - The Northolme is owned by the supporters club (Blues Club).

It's an ideal setup really - makes the club a less attractive prospect for the wrong kind of businessman.

Our ground being in the hands of a CIC will be perfect for us, and we should *always* resist anyone who comes along wanting to change it because it won't be for a good reason.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: green hats mate on January 20, 2018, 01:25:35 PM
No fear of asset strippers coming in , we've no assets to strip .

Keep our fingers crossed that a genuine football loving party will take over the club .
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Bostonshire on January 20, 2018, 04:03:34 PM
No fear of asset strippers coming in , we've no assets to strip .

Keep our fingers crossed that a genuine football loving party will take over the club .

Think the idea behind it is to stop any so called owners racking debt up secured on club assets, getting bored and walking away.
Giving Boston United a ring fence against the hobby men. The idea works well at Trinity having the ground not owned by the club gives them a Safty board
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: youngchubby69 on January 27, 2018, 09:48:23 PM
Not the start DG wanted a 3-4 defeat.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: father Ted on January 28, 2018, 04:52:40 PM
Typical DG I would say .

  Gets a few goals but no consistent grip in defending .

  A distance behind CE  :blank:
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: miele on January 28, 2018, 06:54:50 PM
ot the start DG wanted a 3-4 de] after going 4 -1 down the lads never gave up in fact they never wanted the game 2 end they were getting stronger as the game went on, best of luck 2 all at town your well worth watching 4sure
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: The Third Twin on February 06, 2018, 10:00:03 PM
The Dennis effect is working at Yaxley tonight! 8-0! #greatmanager #bringbackfrost
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: miele on February 07, 2018, 10:48:33 AM
under frost they drew 2-2against yaxley scorers nuttall and field anyone no were frost is at the mo
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: miele on February 07, 2018, 11:07:11 AM
under den they lost the first game 4-3 and under frost I think they won the same team 3-0
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Cavalier on February 07, 2018, 12:32:01 PM
under frost they drew 2-2against yaxley scorers nuttall and field anyone no were frost is at the mo

frost is everywhere this week!   :D
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: kingofnaves on February 07, 2018, 04:34:19 PM
Frosty is on twitter liking all our tweets!
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: miele on February 15, 2018, 02:07:49 PM
united loaned d'g 2under 21 players on sat.all he wont's now is a little support wen united ar not at home  me and granddad r proad  2 say we du oar best 2 support both football club,s in boston ;) ;)
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: kingofnaves on March 12, 2018, 03:01:58 PM
Been told Den is taking a 3 week break.Aparently Lori and Ollie are in charge.Bring back Frosty!
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: delbar on March 13, 2018, 01:42:57 PM
Been told Den is taking a 3 week break.Aparently Lori and Ollie are in charge.Bring back Frosty!

I cannot see him back, should have given Frosty the chance with a bit more funding behind him instead of going for a romancer who before even managing a game spoke about two promotions, blah this and blah that!
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: kingofnaves on March 13, 2018, 01:57:34 PM
He will be back with his massive signings. Does anybody know how Towns league is being changed?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: kingofnaves on March 13, 2018, 03:09:38 PM
Now confirmed on Standard Facebook page.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Endeavour fm sports on March 13, 2018, 06:05:34 PM
Another good player leaves the club in Jordon Nuttell :'(
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Pilgrim86 on March 13, 2018, 10:57:15 PM
Been told Den is taking a 3 week break.Aparently Lori and Ollie are in charge.Bring back Frosty!

They lost again tonight.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: The Third Twin on March 13, 2018, 11:21:35 PM
Been told Den is taking a 3 week break.Aparently Lori and Ollie are in charge.Bring back Frosty!

They lost again tonight.
at home against a team who hadn't won in their last ten matches!
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Endeavour fm sports on March 14, 2018, 08:39:49 AM
Thought they should have got a draw, poor Payney has no luck, pulled off a great save then they blast it in from rebound,   the 1st goal for Rothwell was a great shot to be fair, going in after crashing in off the underside of the crossbar.
The odd rumour was flying about last night about certain things, be interesting to see if these are true,  also saw Frosty last night, told me he had been the last 2 games, nothing to do with the team mind.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: miele on March 14, 2018, 02:19:22 PM
yes a draw I thought was on the cards as they say; towns goaly kept them in the game that's for sure. the last 20mins I thought pinner mite of taken charge and ask a little more from the players' it was a good game to watch and for the price to watch them'  I will be going again 4 sure 
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: The Third Twin on April 07, 2018, 12:51:45 PM
I was looking at some old programs and early on in the ill fated 92/3 Conference campaign I came across the home league match on Sept 9th against Martin O'Neill's table topping Wycombe. #12 on the program was "Dennis Greene. Forward aged 26 signed February 1992 for £15,000 from Chelmsford City. Scored 43 goals from 83 games in 18 months."
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: youngchubby69 on April 07, 2018, 04:36:04 PM
I was looking at some old programs and early on in the ill fated 92/3 Conference campaign I came across the home league match on Sept 9th against Martin O'Neill's table topping Wycombe. #12 on the program was "Dennis Greene. Forward aged 26 signed February 1992 for £15,000 from Chelmsford City. Scored 43 goals from 83 games in 18 months."

I remember some clown on Spayne Road shouting out from behind me"Green you no nothing about attacking play"
His goals scoring record proves that comment wrong.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Pilgrim86 on April 07, 2018, 07:57:37 PM
Greene was essentially signed by Wycmbe to replace Mickey Nuttell, after we paid £14k for him!