Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: soccermad67 on October 31, 2017, 09:54:36 AM
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any ideas folks
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gary mills
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gary mills
He will be weighing up whether he wants the challenge, or not? I think he's still based near Nottingham so the training base would suit him. As GHM said could we meet his financial requirements? Would think the current budget is spent. However the cost of relegation would put the expense of some new signings into perspective.
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No more shortish ex midfields who have 'played at a high level ' .
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No more shortish ex midfields who have 'played at a high level ' .
We will ignore that advice Ted , your bias towards 6ft 6ins M/F who tips the scales at 17st is well documented in your posts :)
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I don't mind if he is well known or unknown, a shorty, shouty, fatty, cockney or a northerner but what he needs to be is a winner, I don't envy the board in making the big decision as it is so easy to get it wrong. I wish them all the luck in the world.
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No more shortish ex midfields who have 'played at a high level ' .
We will ignore that advice Ted , your bias towards 6ft 6ins M/F who tips the scales at 17st is well documented in your posts :)
He is right! well., about the management side of it...Zola, Wise were not the best managers.
(looking forward to seeing short midfield management success stories :) )
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Richard Money ? Just quit at Solihull after 26 days. He knows this level of football well.
TEP
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When did he last manage in Conference North?
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Assume you mean the National League North ? He didn't but the league above is good enough for me.
TEP
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What happened in 26 days ?
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I think Richard Money still lives in the Peterborough area so could be him
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If Hawley wins 4nil with attacking footy tonight he will do me.........Bunny as his side kick...........
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Let's keep our eyes peeled tonight and look out for any possible candidates lurking amongst us.
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Greg Fee and Dick Creasey
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Greg Fee and Dick Creasey
Greg and Dick have given good service to the club in the past , but no thank you .
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Billy Heath who isn't doing so well at Halifax.
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Billy's doing ok. Two wins off a top three spot.
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I think Richard Money still lives in the Peterborough area so could be him
He lives in Sutton Coldfield.
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give hawley & McGuire a chance for me, Mcguire is leader on the pitch
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give hawley & McGuire a chance for me, Mcguire is leader on the pitch
they could well be worth a go, at least for the remainder of this season
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give hawley & McGuire a chance for me, Mcguire is leader on the pitch
they could well be worth a go, at least for the remainder of this season
It's a real tough one TTT, do we stick or twist I suppose that will depend on who applies for the job.
No matter what happens,we are going to have to spend some money, because we desperately need a few more quality players and they are not going to come cheap at this stage of the season.
As from what I saw last night,we cannot finish a move off, and the opposition know this.
Don't get me wrong I love Greg Smith, but he his not skillful and quick enough for this league.
Pidge had him in his pocket last night and Greg couldn't flick the ball on much, and when he tried to hold it with his body, he couldn't turn and bring players into play, that's because sadly he doesn't trust that ankle, you can see it in his body language.
We might have to loose him in the end as I don't think he would be happy as a defender.
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give hawley & McGuire a chance for me, Mcguire is leader on the pitch
they could well be worth a go, at least for the remainder of this season
No way No way, same old same old, who do you think was first team coach with AM, we don’t want novices , now is the time to get a manager who knows the league we are playing in, by looking at what the chairman said in his statement on AMs departure the board also want that type of manager,with experience and contacts in our league, there are plenty of applicants who want the job, surely some of those know this league and the type of player they need in their team.
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Have to agree with the above post keep McGuire as a player but don't give the old assistants the job.
Let's not get carried away with the slight improvement last night as after all they will have all upped their games new manager syndrome and playing top of the league side.
This appointment is vital to the future of the club it must be thought through and the manager must have contacts and experience of this league.
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give hawley & McGuire a chance for me, Mcguire is leader on the pitch
they could well be worth a go, at least for the remainder of this season
No way No way, same old same old, who do you think was first team coach with AM, we don’t want novices , now is the time to get a manager who knows the league we are playing in, by looking at what the chairman said in his statement on AMs departure the board also want that type of manger,with experience and contacts in our league, there are plenty of applicants who want the job, surely some of those know this league and the type of player they need in their team.
earlier in the week somebody posted with KH at the helm, then maybe a more attacking approach might be something he employed. Well, last night we saw 1 less defensive player, replaced by another attacking option, and a link man for the front 3 in Harry Vince. I know we were beaten, but I thought a much better performance generally, with a more conventional back 4, who with an odd exception, I thought looked more like a unit. I agree with other posters that GS is maybe not the man for the #9 shirt, and rather than fight Pidge with strength, we might have been better using the extra speed of Kabi. But for a first game I thought it was positive in many areas. We even used the good surface and played the ball on the deck for some of the game.
Maybe long term, experience and contacts are desirable qualities, but short term, KH could be the answer? There's some tough games ahead, so whoever's at the helm needs a fair crack at it. Success and safety won't come easily, so time to dig in, whoever gets the job.
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give hawley & McGuire a chance for me, Mcguire is leader on the pitch
they could well be worth a go, at least for the remainder of this season
No way No way, same old same old, who do you think was first team coach with AM, we don’t want novices , now is the time to get a manager who knows the league we are playing in, by looking at what the chairman said in his statement on AMs departure the board also want that type of manger,with experience and contacts in our league, there are plenty of applicants who want the job, surely some of those know this league and the type of player they need in their team.
earlier in the week somebody posted with KH at the helm, then maybe a more attacking approach might be something he employed. Well, last night we saw 1 less defensive player, replaced by another attacking option, and a link man for the front 3 in Harry Vince. I know we were beaten, but I thought a much better performance generally, with a more conventional back 4, who with an odd exception, I thought looked more like a unit. I agree with other posters that GS is maybe not the man for the #9 shirt, and rather than fight Pidge with strength, we might have been better using the extra speed of Kabi. But for a first game I thought it was positive in many areas. We even used the good surface and played the ball on the deck for some of the game.
Maybe long term, experience and contacts are desirable qualities, but short term, KH could be the answer? There's some tough games ahead, so whoever's at the helm needs a fair crack at it. Success and safety won't come easily, so time to dig in, whoever gets the job.
Agree with your positive comments re match v Salford TTT. I think KH will get 2 more matches to show his potential as a manager and if he shows positive signs DN will give him an extended trial . Alternatively he will have to shift through the applications of failed managers and decide which one to risk with the job .
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the Scarboro boss Kittrick has ruled himself out of the job.
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the Scarboro boss Kittrick has ruled himself out of the job.
That's a relief . Left Telford in a similar sort of mess as AM left us .
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What I’d like to know is who rules in all these managers that rule themselves out :)
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Richard Mooney had resigned his position from Solihull Moors, or is that old news.
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Going back 20 years ,excluding pisspoor poor and moneyed , he will have to rival or surpass
Greg Fee good defensive organisor
S & S very good
DG good attacking flavors .. :)
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Listening to BBC Lincs Sport tonight it was interesting to hear AM reveal again the good job he had done at Boston .
David Newton also on discussing the appointment of a new manager .
Most enlightening was Mark Hone , I think Mark is streets ahead of any of the other sports journalist on Lincs Sport with his constructive and forthright comments combined with his non-league knowledge ,
Briefly what Mark said was that we are in a real relegation fight , 2 mid-fielders and 2 centre half's are the main priority adding that he though our 3 forwards against Salford were decent but we need 7 new players to get the team up to scratch .
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Is he available ?
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It's one thing being able to tell everyone else what they need, but sadly Mark Hone didn't walk the walk at Spalding, it was not long before he was told to walk.
Not a manager for Boston.
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Richard Mooney had resigned his position from Solihull Moors, or is that old news.
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Richard Money ? Just quit at Solihull after 26 days. He knows this level of football well.
TEP
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Just an 'archive' question ..
Why was Don Donovan replaced by Jim Smith ?
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Just an 'archive' question ..
Why was Don Donovan replaced by Jim Smith ?
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I think it was down to the poor performance in the first season (68/9) in the Northern Premier League when Boston United only finished in 14th place out of 20 teams (http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/tab68.html).
I think it was felt that Donovan wasn't the best manager to cope with the more physical approach adopted by the other clubs in the Northern Premier League - see the "Classic Game" write up of the first game in the NPL against Macclesfield (http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/C100868.html).
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Just an 'archive' question ..
Why was Don Donovan replaced by Jim Smith ?
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Because Dons team was on the slide .
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Succinctly put GHM :angel:
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I remember those bone crunching games against the Macclesfield Maulers. In particular, they had a player called Fidler who played in that epic game. He did everything possible to antagonise the Boston fans with his hard "tackling" physical challenges. In those days, players got away with murder.
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Remember Leo Skeete Ted ? A prolific scorer who played for several northern non league clubs , capable of scoring a goal and getting a red card before half time .
I think we tried to sign him but was unsuccessful , pretty sure he played for Runcorn a team that would make Tom Denton and NFU look graceful.
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I have a chap that works with me, and his surname is Fidler.
I think some of them live in the Long Sutton area, perhaps some relation,as they are all know for being tough hardmen.
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I have a chap that works with me, and his surname is Fidler.
I think some of them live in the Long Sutton area, perhaps some relation,as they are all know for being tough hardmen.
I've met a few Fidlers in my time chubby , best to steer clear of them :)
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Remember reports of him GHM .
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Leo Skeete was in the Mossley side that beat us in the FA Trophy semi's in 1980 drawing away 1-1 loosing the 2nd leg 1-2. Bobby Brown scoring both of our goals
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Att in that August 68 York St game 2867 ..
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I’ve got a black and white photo which I took at that away match at Mossley showing Bobby Brown, if I remember right the pitch was on top of a hill in Mossley between Hyde and Stalybridge, We travelled over via Woodhead From Sheffield to get to Mossley, that was in the days before the M62 was built , Also remember travelling to Canal Street Runcorn for a FA Trophy match, and when we arrived there the match was called off by the referee because the pitch was waterlogged.
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yes on an hill side, good pub at the end of the road, m62 complete 1976
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Is this the chap you are talking about
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Fidler
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Looks if there were 2 Fidlers playing for Macc around that time .
Denis Fidler appeared in that 1968 YorkSt match , and appeared to retire in 1973 .
Brian Fidler played for BUFC 74/75
Regards
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Were they both hard nuts Ted.
But many were in those days,I grew up in a little farming village in the fens, a place called Gedney Drove End.
I remember the football teams they had down there, real hard men.
I cut my footballing teeth down there as many young lads did, when you went down they chucked a wet sponge on your affected part, and said "get up boy and run it off, yo be right".
They had 3 teams down there, and they had a moto above the changing room door that read, " If it moves above the grass kick it, and if it doesn't kick it until it does"
Sadly they don't have a team that plays there anymore or any facilities.
Loved every minute playing there, even the painful one's.
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lee Thompson as put his hat in the ring according to the Standard
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lee Thompson as put his hat in the ring according to the Standard
Well if Lee gets the job, the tactics will no doubt be atttack attack attack, and a little a bit of defence.
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Looks if there were 2 Fidlers playing for Macc around that time .
Denis Fidler appeared in that 1968 YorkSt match , and appeared to retire in 1973 .
Brian Fidler played for BUFC 74/75
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Not the last pair of "fiddlers" at Boston! Sorry, couldn't resist!
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Lee Thompson is an intelligent guy. Would be a popular appointment.
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Lee Thompson is an intelligent guy. Would be a popular appointment.
Jim Rodwell was an inteligent guy............
What managerial experiene has Thompson has got?
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Lee Thompson is an intelligent guy. Would be a popular appointment.
Jim Rodwell was an inteligent guy............
What managerial experiene has Thompson has got?
nothing to do with credentials, but he scored the Pilgrims' only ever football league hat trick away at Darlington. Otherwise, he's mid thirties, ex-midfielder, and only approx 5'6, so he fits the criteria almost perfectly. The only missing quality is he's from Sheffield not the east midlands, so midweek training might need moving north a few miles?
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How long does KH get to impress ?
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How long does KH get to impress ?
I'd give him a few more games at least. It's a difficult one though. His first two games have shown a more balanced approach to the back and front lines, rather than the defensive stack we've seen with AM, but up front, it's an elusive search for regular goals and a settled line, but then it has been all season. The quicker a decision is made, then the more chance the new nan has got to climb up the table, but KH knows the team already, so there's no "bedding in" period if he was chosen, which should be an advantage to consistency. Admittedly, the current side has got plenty of weaknesses, wholesale change (like last year) won't help either.
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nothing to do with credentials, but he scored the Pilgrims' only ever football league hat trick away at Darlington.
Andy Kirk scored 3 at Kidderminster, past a future England international goalkeeper.
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Again according to the report in the Standard, KH hasn't put his name forward for the managers job, so obviously he's not interested in it, so why do the interim managers job??
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Why not... the team needed someone to takeover as caretaker, more often than not it is someone already at the club.
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...but why does this news, including timing for interviews, hit The Standard before it's announced on the Club website?
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cutting edge journalism
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nothing to do with credentials, but he scored the Pilgrims' only ever football league hat trick away at Darlington.
Andy Kirk scored 3 at Kidderminster, past a future England international goalkeeper.
apologies, I stand corrected, you're quite right.
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...but why does this news, including timing for interviews, hit The Standard before it's announced on the Club website?
Is it true?
Newspapers do have a habit of speculating on news items and the truth is entirely different.
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I had the pleasure of working with George Wheatman at the Standard. He always kept me in the loop on United matters and he was a true gentleman.
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KH should be made caretaker to when the Xmas games are over
Then a final selection made until season end ::)
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"He who hesitates is lost"
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"He who hesitates is lost"
"Fools rush in "
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"He who hesitates is lost"
"Fools rush in "
"He who laughs last, didn't get the joke to start with"
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Never piss in to head wind 😂
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Wonder if Hawley is gunna go for it!!!!!
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Wonder if Hawley is gunna go for it!!!!!
I hope the Chestnuts approach him (or have already, maybe?). For me, albeit only for 3 matches, but the players look ten times what they did under AM. I say give KH a go, at least until the end if the season.
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I think the recent performances show that the board do not need to rush into an appointment.
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I think the recent performances show that the board do not need to rush into an appointment.
Can't think of an out of work North Con manager who would be preferable to KH, unlikely that a top manager in a job in our league would apply unless Kevin Wilkin fancies a change .
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I think the Owner would favor an internal appt ..
Would like to hear KH view ,then again he could be just being diplomatic .
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Yan Yeoman has signed a deal until the end of the season , would think KH would have had an input on this decision and probably indicates that he will be next manager .
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Yan Yeoman has signed a deal until the end of the season , would think KH would have had an input on this decision and probably indicates that he will be next manager .
quite possibly an indicator, yes. Pleased for Jan. He's not without fault, but he's one who has played to the best of his abilities week in, week out, irrelevant of the general lacklustre-ness of the mediocre team performances earlier in the season.
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Yan Yeoman has signed a deal until the end of the season , would think KH would have had an input on this decision and probably indicates that he will be next manager .
quite possibly an indicator, yes. Pleased for Jan. He's not without fault, but he's one who has played to the best of his abilities week in, week out, irrelevant of the general lacklustre-ness of the mediocre team performances earlier in the season.
First name on the team sheet for me, well pleased he's signed up and yes it would seem rather strange if this happened prior to a new appointment.
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When asked if he will have any more games in charge Karl says he will have to see what the Chairman says. I think he will agree with the fans that everyone at the club has been lifted by the performances in the last three games and the continuity that Karl brings is what is needed at this difficult time.
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If no outstanding candidate, keep KH in until May, then see
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Unless Karl tells the chairman, "I don't want the job" i'd leave him in charge for the time being.
Obviously the lads are happy with him running the show, so why change things.
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CRAIG ELLIOTT confirmed as new BUFC boss!
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Who?