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Title: Today v Brackley
Post by: Greengrass on October 28, 2017, 01:20:30 PM
Just getting ready to head off to the match. Blowing a gale outside so expecting plenty of slick passing football on display. Up the Pilgrims.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: green hats mate on October 28, 2017, 01:43:06 PM
Just getting ready to head off to the match. Blowing a gale outside so expecting plenty of slick passing football on display. Up the Pilgrims.

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Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: porl99 on October 28, 2017, 02:59:47 PM
Great to see Kaine Felix starting today, just not for Boston
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: porl99 on October 28, 2017, 03:07:11 PM
And he's scored already ;D
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 28, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
He needs to be back at York Street, how the hell have we missed out on him.
Bloody gutted.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Bunyan on October 28, 2017, 03:15:39 PM

Ten minutes gone and 1-0 down
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 28, 2017, 03:16:53 PM
Bloody rubbish, Willis again can't stop a long range shot.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Winging It on October 28, 2017, 03:17:57 PM
2-0 down....for crying out loud.....Murray OUT !!!!!!
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 28, 2017, 03:20:16 PM
This is going to be a cricket score, Murray needs to walk now and go this minute.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: porl99 on October 28, 2017, 03:22:04 PM
Get Felix signed up NOW just scored again he has not lost it. Only on a temp contract at Deeping
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 28, 2017, 03:24:28 PM
Murray won't sign him, he is not from Mansfield.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Bunyan on October 28, 2017, 03:26:28 PM
Seems as though Endeavour fm are only playing music this afternoon - no commentary. have they given up on us as well!
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 28, 2017, 03:31:36 PM
Murray was asked if he was interested in Felix last night he just replied "no" #idiot
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Bunyan on October 28, 2017, 03:38:09 PM
FCUM 1-0 up
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Bunyan on October 28, 2017, 03:51:02 PM
Half times
Boston 0-2 Brackley
Trinity 0-0 Curzon
FCUM 1-0 Nuneaton
Leamington 2-0 N Ferriby
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 28, 2017, 03:56:43 PM
Murray was asked if he was interested in Felix last night he just replied "no" #idiot
That says it all about him,no fxxking idea, what is going on.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Lee Newell on October 28, 2017, 03:57:51 PM
One thing is for sure we're in a relegation battle now and need to turn things around fast.

Ferriby will go down.

Then 2 of 4 from Boston, Gainsborough, FCUM, Nuneaton.

Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Winging It on October 28, 2017, 04:00:04 PM
Surely even those loyal to Murray must now be feeling like a little slice of humble pie and admit they got it all wrong and he is not the man to lead this club forward ? There is only one direction we are going, and that is far from forward !! It would be wrong to bring Greene back as we've now moved on, but we need some fresh input by someone with at least a bit of creativity.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 28, 2017, 04:06:26 PM
I'd get him back in , needs an experienced manager at this level to work the players Murray has got in , he's done it once with Drurys team give him short term contract til end of season . If we lose 3 more games on the bounce that's it for me we're relegated
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Bunyan on October 28, 2017, 04:07:59 PM
0-3 2 mins of second half gone!
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 28, 2017, 04:11:02 PM
I'd get him back in , needs an experienced manager at this level to work the players Murray has got in , he's done it once with Drurys team give him short term contract til end of season . If we lose 3 more games on the bounce that's it for me we're relegated
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I agree what have we got to loose, give him a go.
I know one thing he wouldn't have ruled out Kane Felix.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Bunyan on October 28, 2017, 04:13:38 PM
1-3 penalty
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Winging It on October 28, 2017, 04:15:10 PM
I'd get him back in , needs an experienced manager at this level to work the players Murray has got in , he's done it once with Drurys team give him short term contract til end of season . If we lose 3 more games on the bounce that's it for me we're relegated
The problem is, it would upset a lot of the "KA". I liked the style of play we had under the previous manager, but if you were supportive of him you only got slagged and slated so I'm keeping shtum about it.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 28, 2017, 04:22:44 PM
Stuff them, there actions have put us in this mess.
Which means one thing, they know nothing about what a good manager looks like.
I wonder if the bucket full man will be dishing a bucket full out today to Mr Murray.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Bunyan on October 28, 2017, 04:26:59 PM
Trinity 1-0 up via penalty
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 28, 2017, 04:27:10 PM
Trinity 1-0 now.
Looks like we will be 6 points behind them.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Bunyan on October 28, 2017, 04:32:51 PM
2-3 comeback on? Jay Rollins the scorer
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Winging It on October 28, 2017, 04:46:53 PM
At least this England game is giving some joy !!! 
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: father Ted on October 28, 2017, 04:52:44 PM
Its mainly a defensive problem ..
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Winging It on October 28, 2017, 04:54:24 PM
So.......yet another loss and down even further, bottom two !!!  Shameful, absolutely disgraceful and certainly there has to be no defending of the manager tonight.  He has to go !
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Bunyan on October 28, 2017, 04:56:31 PM
Full times
United 2 Brackley 3
Trinity 1 Curzon 0
FCUM 2 Nuneaton 1
Leamington 3 N Ferriby 0
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: natmic 66 on October 28, 2017, 04:57:43 PM
Only Salford next :o
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: father Ted on October 28, 2017, 05:00:57 PM
As I say ,anything less than a win Tues and its wave goodbye .
 Thought he might have risked Chapman today in the desperation ..  :'(
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 28, 2017, 05:08:02 PM
I didn't go today because I am showing my disgust by not paying Murray's wage's.
If the chairman won't sack him on performance, perhaps he will not have a choice if the gate is down and the money stops rolling in.
He must go now,I have had enough it's shameful.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Burgh Boy on October 28, 2017, 05:22:22 PM
DN has already giving his backing - but how can the current situation be allowed to continue? I had previously described Mr Murray as a brilliant young manager but I am now regretting that comment. This was supposed to be a re-building season under his tenure but it is the same old same old loan players galore revolving door option. I have to ask myself what are the expectations from the footballing side of the business.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Pilgrim till i die on October 28, 2017, 05:40:46 PM
At this rate we will lose to Gainsborough Boxing Day and nyd
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 28, 2017, 05:46:49 PM
Green in the stands taking notes today, I would love to see the look on Andy's face if he reinstated.
I would love it, let's hope it happens.
Just stay off the social media DG.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: father Ted on October 28, 2017, 05:50:54 PM
Cmon , he didn't consistently have a good defence .. ???
  Attacking scout .
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: jelangley on October 28, 2017, 05:51:37 PM
Green in the stands taking notes today, I would love to see the look on Andy's face if he reinstated.
I would love it, let's hope it happens.
Just stay off the social media DG.

I.hope.ur right or is this just bullshit
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 28, 2017, 05:53:11 PM
Murray declined post match interview on radio hmmm
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: jelangley on October 28, 2017, 05:56:06 PM
Interesting, what i will say is we looked a side of no confidence, pasing back afraid to go forwrd......attendance down......
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Johnny Pilgrim on October 28, 2017, 05:58:16 PM
At 0-3 down today we suddenly decided to "play some football",and ,quite frankly,with a bit of luck we could have drawn the game....However for 47 minutes BUFC were {ONCE AGAIN} dreadful...a thoroughly dull,uninspired performance from a group of seemingly uninterested players in a completely disjointed and confusing formation...Once again our "manager" showed no emotion or passion,and quite frankly,in my opinion,no tactical awareness...Its a mess and now the Club are in serious danger of being relegated....The blame is firmly with Adam and he needs to up his game immediately...
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: aggy on October 28, 2017, 06:00:03 PM
He doesn't need to up his game.

He needs to go.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 28, 2017, 06:00:17 PM
Cmon , he didn't consistently have a good defence .. ???
  Attacking scout .

Yes true but DG never had us in the relegation zone, and yes I would love to see him back, and shove it up the AB knob head army.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 28, 2017, 06:00:41 PM
We keep saying he needs to up his game but he never does , with the games coming up it can only get worse
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 28, 2017, 06:02:43 PM
Green in the stands taking notes today, I would love to see the look on Andy's face if he reinstated.
I would love it, let's hope it happens.
Just stay off the social media DG.

I.hope.ur right or is this just bullshit
Well four people texted in to Radio Lincolnshire saying the same thing.
Fingers crossed
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: father Ted on October 28, 2017, 06:04:49 PM
Could be it then .. DG was just on a sabbatical  ..
 
 If it is DG again I hope he gets someone to organise the defense .

 Bet  GHM has a warm feeling tonite   ::)
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 28, 2017, 06:06:35 PM
If it is I hope he gets someone to sort his social media too
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: lonegunman on October 28, 2017, 06:15:28 PM
I have nothing against AM but I do believe he didn't understand NL football.
You don't need fancy managers, you need a manager who's been there and got several tee shirts.
If he walks, or is shoved, I feel sorry for the bloke. He talks a good game but sadly he hasn't got the skill to put in into practice.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Franketh on October 28, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
Would like to see Greene back, he had half a bad season out of 4 with probably a smaller budget. Victim of his own success, I honestly don't care about the social media etc if he gets results.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Artemis on October 28, 2017, 06:23:42 PM
It's almost November and Murray still doesn't know his starting 11.
He has to go otherwise we won't be in this league next season and the gates will be even lower.

He has had his chance and failed miserably.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Keynsham Pilgrim on October 28, 2017, 06:33:10 PM
It was a correct call, at the time, for Greene to go as he appeared to have assembled a poor team who would throw in the towel as soon as they went 1-0 down. For the Greene defenders then please let’s not forget Fylde last year amongst other examples. He did fantastically for the previous 3 seasons but appeared to run out of ideas with a team that was not as good as previously.

As for Murray: I had great hopes for this year with the lines given and pre-season results but was concerned from the Hednesford result as this was the first one that seemed to matter, in hindsight. Southport confirmed that and set the tone.

The issues appeared to be location when attracting players and so he moved where we trained by this hasn’t worked. Unlike some, I am more than happy with using technology such as gps in training but again this doesn’t give an advantage.

I do not wish to call for anyone to lose their job and the impact that has on an individual and their family but I love my club more than that and so it is now time to say thank you Adam, and goodbye.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 28, 2017, 06:35:10 PM
As one who was sorry to see DG go and particularly in the way he went I would really love to see him turn it around.... It won't be easy but hopefully his contacts might help him out.
It's an interesting few weeks, possibly days.
AM has a lot of qualities and wish he could turn this situation around, however I'm not 100% sure that this is one of his qualities.
We have used almost the equivalent of three different teams this year and his first choice 11 remain a mystery ....l
Much like DG last year some players have not delivered for him .
So glad I'm self employed and don't have around a thousand "inspectors" watching me each week!
I hope whether AM carries on or who ever comes in they get a big dose of luck.....they're going to need it
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 28, 2017, 06:41:24 PM
I have no axe to grind against Murray I never thought he was the right choice I would have gone for Frecklington who did want the job or anyone from the conference north or a level below . Having managed in the league is never a guarantee of success you need someone who knows the league and the players . I understand his reasons for taking the job but he's doing his reputation no good and looks like a rabbit in the headlights . I never wanted DG to go but for me his social media left no choice but if I was to get a Manager in to sort this mess out he would be a first point of call , knows the club the town and the players in this league . I don't think he will come back but I would love to see it and be excited about watching again
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: jelangley on October 28, 2017, 06:42:44 PM
I dont know Adam but a personality is crucial, and he doesnt appear to have one, dull, unenergetic and uninspiring.  DG catches the eye, always had time yto speak to my little lads, it seems.forced with Adam- same in any job, playrs respond to good communication, at a a personable level.  I think DG was approachable but i dont think AM is
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: green hats mate on October 28, 2017, 06:46:29 PM
Green in the stands taking notes today, I would love to see the look on Andy's face if he reinstated.
I would love it, let's hope it happens.
Just stay off the social media DG.

Don't know what Greene was putting in his notes chubby ,   but at half time I thought I heard him ask Andy who was sitting alongside him 
" how do you spell job application ".  :)
 
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: jelangley on October 28, 2017, 06:50:53 PM
Its all fitting into place - DG asked to.visit today by DN to prepare to take the helm until end of season, keep us up and the jobs urs.  I think AM new he was here and knows hes going.....stand by for announcments
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 28, 2017, 06:56:56 PM
Its all fitting into place - DG asked to.visit today by DN to prepare to take the helm until end of season, keep us up and the jobs urs.  I think AM new he was here and knows hes going.....stand by for announcments


If only
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: oxo on October 28, 2017, 07:18:05 PM
Before this thread ( Today v Brackley ) gets any dafter I would actually like to make a comment on the game. I have been calling for Vince ( Local Lad )to be included for weeks now and what a difference we saw in the second half when Wakefield one of our worst players was replaced by Vince, we immediately saw movement and passing and a little calmness on the ball. Who knows another local lad Adams if he ever gets a chance could prove his worth. However, AM doesn't rate them although he talks them up.   
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: green hats mate on October 28, 2017, 07:24:35 PM
Could be it then .. DG was just on a sabbatical  ..
 
 If it is DG again I hope he gets someone to organise the defense .

 Bet  GHM has a warm feeling tonite   ::)

If you look through my posts Ted you will see I enjoyed watching DG teams but have stated players and managers often disappoint second time round .
My hope is that Adam quickly recovers from a very stressful job and finds less demanding employment .
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: garry@ on October 28, 2017, 07:31:40 PM
Agree oxo,
Wonder how they feel when AM brings in players that are no better/worse than them.

For others information Mr Greene actually paid to get in.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 28, 2017, 07:43:38 PM
So he paid, what does that prove.
If DN had invited him,how would have that looked to Adam Murray.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: father Ted on October 28, 2017, 07:46:00 PM
 Always interesting when manager types sit and take notes ..
 
   Humour and intringue required, in equal quantities   ???
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: kingofnaves on October 28, 2017, 07:49:49 PM
No notes taken! Only thing taken was his winnings from guess the gate!
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Ed Kandi on October 28, 2017, 08:21:01 PM
Always interesting when manager types sit and take notes ..
 
   Humour and intringue required, in equal quantities   ???
You need plenty of humour and intringue to overcome the first half performance  :o
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Champs next year on October 28, 2017, 08:49:17 PM
15 games played, 30 goals conceded, 1 place off the bottom. Today the worst 50 mins of a shocking season by far. Yes better when Vinno came on, but he should be starting in that midfield!
When their 3rd went in they took the foot off the gas, they sat back & we had a go. We just look so fragile at the back, the 2 central defenders are OK in the air but poor on the deck. Let's face it none of the back four were Murray's original signings.

Murray sat in the dugout throughout the second half, he knows that the game is up. FFS get someone in before it's too late.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: kingofnaves on October 28, 2017, 08:54:19 PM
Had to laugh when a supporter said to Den "The best 2 players are your signings'... Vince and Rollins!
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: green hats mate on October 28, 2017, 09:22:27 PM
Had to laugh when a supporter said to Den "The best 2 players are your signings'... Vince and Rollins!

Food for thought for the Knob Head Army .
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 28, 2017, 10:37:55 PM
So do we think Den will be back in charge,or are we playing fantasy football here.
Murray manages like a consultant,the ideas are flowing but in reality it doesn't work.
So why would Den just turn up now, he knows that this is Adams last chance saloon.
No smoke without fire.
Or perhaps it's just a pipe dream.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: jelangley on October 28, 2017, 10:55:45 PM
Its all fitting into place - DG asked to.visit today by DN to prepare to take the helm until end of season, keep us up and the jobs urs.  I think AM new he was here and knows hes going.....stand by for announcments


If only

Well....part 1 is complete just DG to come back
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Artemis on October 28, 2017, 11:01:24 PM
Dennis would come back but will David Newton want him back?

If he was to come back I do believe he would keep Boston Utd in this league - everyone knows what he can achieve.
On the other hand if another manager is appointed there is no guarantee he will be any better than Murray plus it could be at least 2/3 weeks before a new manager is appointed. . 
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: jelangley on October 28, 2017, 11:04:27 PM
no brainer
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 28, 2017, 11:24:58 PM
Dennis would come back but will David Newton want him back?

If he was to come back I do believe he would keep Boston Utd in this league - everyone knows what he can achieve.
On the other hand if another manager is appointed there is no guarantee he will be any better than Murray plus it could be at least 2/3 weeks before a new manager is appointed. .

Agree with all that plus for me is the fact he knows this league , town , players in this league and does have a good record , despite what people may think of him as a person I think his results as a manager wherever he's been stack up
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Crazy Neil on October 29, 2017, 12:47:46 AM
DG has been to more than today's game, spotted him a few times as he has come into the main stand.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: kingofnaves on October 29, 2017, 08:51:21 AM
Last time was 10/11 months ago.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: oxo on October 29, 2017, 10:14:20 AM
I didn't go today because I am showing my disgust by not paying Murray's wage's.
If the chairman won't sack him on performance, perhaps he will not have a choice if the gate is down and the money stops rolling in.
He must go now,I have had enough it's shameful.



Well you won't have to boycott anymore games so expect you to be there on Tuesday showing support to the Chairman for granting your wish. By the way I feel the time is right for the change to be made.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Fishtoft Crew on October 29, 2017, 11:38:14 AM
Your right Mel sadly Andy had to move on, shame. However the people now wanting Dennis back amazes me, this was the manager who last year didn't go on the team bus to some away games, had players at training who he simply didnt speak to, and allowed the pitch to become a disgrace for our level.

I have no gripe with Dennis nor Andy as its a thankless task,  we shouldn't go back, look forward.

Finally, I found Andy a decent bloke who tried different things, tried to be professional and do the right things and wasn't afraid to muck in, I hope he gets another chance somewhere.

Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: oxo on October 29, 2017, 11:52:01 AM
Your right Mel sadly Andy had to move on, shame. However the people now wanting Dennis back amazes me, this was the manager who last year didn't go on the team bus to some away games, had players at training who he simply didnt speak to, and allowed the pitch to become a disgrace for our level.

I have no gripe with Dennis nor Andy as its a thankless task,  we shouldn't go back, look forward.

Finally, I found Andy a decent bloke who tried different things, tried to be professional and do the right things and wasn't afraid to muck in, I hope he gets another chance somewhere.

 

Agree mate, by the way it is Adam unfortunately Andy has been no more successful this year.



Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: Fishtoft Crew on October 29, 2017, 11:54:13 AM
Hangover is killing me and my memory.
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 29, 2017, 12:14:10 PM
Your right Mel sadly Andy had to move on, shame. However the people now wanting Dennis back amazes me, this was the manager who last year didn't go on the team bus to some away games, had players at training who he simply didnt speak to, and allowed the pitch to become a disgrace for our level.

I have no gripe with Dennis nor Andy as its a thankless task,  we shouldn't go back, look forward.

Finally, I found Andy a decent bloke who tried different things, tried to be professional and do the right things and wasn't afraid to muck in, I hope he gets another chance somewhere.
Agree with most if that FC...however blaming DG for the state of the pitch is harsh!
Women training on it mid week for hours was the problem!
The club got funding for women's football... DG finally got them thrown off .. (I think they train at Tatt road if it's still going)
Title: Re: Today v Brackley
Post by: youngchubby69 on October 29, 2017, 01:37:29 PM
I didn't go today because I am showing my disgust by not paying Murray's wage's.
If the chairman won't sack him on performance, perhaps he will not have a choice if the gate is down and the money stops rolling in.
He must go now,I have had enough it's shameful.



Well you won't have to boycott anymore games so expect you to be there on Tuesday showing support to the Chairman for granting your wish. By the way I feel the time is right for the change to be made.
I will be there matey, but will have to leave before the end as I have to go to work, but at least I didn't have to protest to long.
I never want to hurt the club, but sometimes you just have to do things,we couldn't keep on going like this, it was just absurd, thank God it's over.
I agree that he was nice guy and helpful but sometimes that's not enough.