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Title: Vs Haughmond
Post by: The Third Twin on September 16, 2017, 12:06:52 PM
So, with about 3 hours to kickoff, a few stats..

Haughmond have a 100% away record this season. They have won 3 away league games, and 2 away cup games, including a replay win at Matlock in the last round, who included Marc Newsham and Jamie Yates.

They are yet to win at home.

Their average home attendance is 62.

Odds today are Boston to win 1/5, the draw 5/1, or Haughmond to win 7/1.

Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: youngchubby69 on September 16, 2017, 12:56:16 PM
We are in fairness, a different kind of opposition, even with our poor start to the season.
I wouldn't think they have ever had to deal with a Greg Smith or the pace of Jay and Kaba.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: leicester pilgrim on September 16, 2017, 01:35:22 PM
Haughmond have a 100% away record this season. They have won 3 away league games, and 2 away cup games, including a replay win at Matlock in the last round, who included Marc Newsham and Jamie Yates.

There are two Yates in the Matlock squad and I think it was Adam Yates that was playing. Last I heard Jamie Yates was more involved in some kind of coaching role rather than playing too regularly
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Bodge on September 16, 2017, 03:50:02 PM
Banana has been peeled, just now need to make sure we don't slip on it
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: father Ted on September 16, 2017, 04:12:45 PM
HT clean sheet , starting Chumpman doesnt seem a great dividend at present ..


80 mins  1-1

Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Bunyan on September 16, 2017, 04:52:50 PM
FT 1-1 ☹️
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: miele on September 16, 2017, 04:56:43 PM
town win 2/1how well r they doing  :)
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: father Ted on September 16, 2017, 05:03:18 PM
Well , due to any number of excuses , I feel BUFC are now no better than Unibond / regional seeking a future  :-\
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Burgh Boy on September 16, 2017, 05:05:21 PM
Congratulations to the Poachers! What a win at Dereham against a team from a higher league. A credit to the town of Boston. (I will refrain from discussing United's result today and its implications. That is a matter for the Chairman and Manager to perhaps make a statement in the very near future.)
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: steve m on September 16, 2017, 05:10:16 PM
What utter dross. I can't see where this team is going other than down. The body language of the players was grim.......surely we must have a change?
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Boo on September 16, 2017, 05:11:59 PM
Well done Boston (you know which one)
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: father Ted on September 16, 2017, 05:36:14 PM
Still in the mix ..loanees need games ..any matches next week ?
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 16, 2017, 05:37:42 PM
I - 1 a fair result in a match of two well matched teams .
We need to find more to overcome the villagers on their home ground
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: aggy on September 16, 2017, 05:44:10 PM
Loan in the Poachers tean and management to play in United's colours.
Cannot do worse than AM & buddies.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 16, 2017, 05:58:41 PM
Just listened to AM interview , still seems we have  the same problems .........Players and fans not doing their bit . ::)
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: youngchubby69 on September 16, 2017, 06:22:57 PM
Well what a let down, we just can't put teams away, chance after chance goes begging, Greg Smith was woeful today, some of them played well but others are just not up to it.
We are a team with no belief or direction, and no leader on the field.
Our opponents didn't even play well, yes their keeper played well, but come on have we sunk that low.
I wanted to give Murray a bucket load as he came off pitch, but I refrained from doing so, because he looked like a man who now knows he has no future at this club.
I think he knows that the final whistle is about to blow on his project.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: youngchubby69 on September 16, 2017, 06:32:47 PM
Hang on a minute, there is something to celebrate, Salford are out of the FA CUP, get in there York City.
See there is always a positive somewhere to cheer you up.
No BBC cameras for them this year.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 16, 2017, 06:54:04 PM
Well what a let down, we just can't put teams away, chance after chance goes begging, Greg Smith was woeful today, some of them played well but others are just not up to it.
We are a team with no belief or direction, and no leader on the field.
Our opponents didn't even play well, yes their keeper played well, but come on have we sunk that low.
I wanted to give Murray a bucket load as he came off pitch, but I refrained from doing so, because he looked like a man who now knows he has no future at this club.
I think he knows that the final whistle is about to blow on his project.

An accurate summing up chubby .   The question most of us would like to ask Adam is  why are the players you signed who were pursued by higher league clubs performing so badly ?
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Champs next year on September 16, 2017, 06:58:33 PM
Comfortable on the ball, good movement, ball played through midfield - that's enough about them. What are we working on in training, how is this team being coached to play?? First half we just lumped long hopeful balls up to Smithy second half they played with a higher back line & we didn't have a clue how to break them down. We have no creativity whatsoever in midfield. The new lad was defensively tidy but we need some flair so badly. If we are not getting the centre forward AM promised then at least give Waite a go there. This is getting harder to watch by the week & as gates continue to fall The Chairman will be forced to act.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: miele on September 16, 2017, 07:04:23 PM
me granddads in a foul mude he sed u aint having any fish an chips 2nite boy get yourself a potnoodle out the cubberd then I said town won granddad he sed ok u can av a bag of chips 2 go with yor noodles and thank town for that boy
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Ed Kandi on September 16, 2017, 07:09:20 PM
I haven't seen many games this season. 
The ones I have seen haven't been great, but there's been signs of potential so I thought, given enough time, the team would gel and start playing some decent football.
Sadly that is not the case and one of the reasons appears all too obvious.
Criticism of individuals can be damaging to a team, so I will avoid that and just ask one question.
Why, when playing at home to a team much further down the pyramid, would you kick the ball straight back to the goalkeeper from kick off?  ???
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Ed Kandi on September 16, 2017, 07:11:41 PM
me granddads in a foul mude he sed u aint having any fish an chips 2nite boy get yourself a potnoodle out the cubberd then I said town won granddad he sed ok u can av a bag of chips 2 go with yor noodles and thank town for that boy

Has grandad sold his bulldozer yet miele?  ???
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: jelangley on September 16, 2017, 08:13:17 PM
I went with my 2 lads, yes paid the full family ticket price.for the family stand (21 quid), would of been nice to have free kid entry but oh well - honest opinion, Boston played against a well organised side well a GIANT dictating their play, good player.....they couldn cope with our attacking play but had us on a set peice, we missed at least 5 clear chances, not.clinical enough and thats why we got the draw - there is a problem with bufc though at the moment, cant quite put my finger on it but something isnt working, i suspect manager but the players aint 100% happy its very obvious - too much tension ( smith nearly got.sent.off again), this must be frustration for some reason or another......My guess is that there is shit going.on in the dressing room that we dont know about....
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Tash on September 16, 2017, 09:19:31 PM
Just listened to AM interview , still seems we have  the same problems .........Players and fans not doing their bit . ::)

Pete you sure he's not DG in disguise  :D :D
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Shrimperpilgrim on September 16, 2017, 10:02:12 PM
Yet another woefully poor performance against a side that attempted to play the correct way.
Why oh why do we play long ball against a supposedly inferior team.
Surely the gulf in ability should have shone through in our possession keep ball all neat and tidy with the visitors chasing shadows?
No the reality was play long ball and scrap for the seconds all over the pitch.
Yet another example of poor tactics.
The pitch which was used as one of the managers excuses last season was looking fantastic you could see Haughmond players in the warm up loving the surface.
So we have the pitch but still play in the air to Smith who looked way off the pace today.
For me the time has come decision at the top to show Murray the door.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: father Ted on September 16, 2017, 10:44:48 PM
 Murray may survive if he prevails v Haughmond

  but League excuses are threadbare

   In the words of GHM ..who could you choose  :-X
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Shrimperpilgrim on September 16, 2017, 11:14:46 PM
Go get Ian culverhouse from kings lynn.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 17, 2017, 07:33:12 AM
Murray may survive if he prevails v Haughmond

  but League excuses are threadbare

   In the words of GHM ..who could you choose  :-X
Time flies Ted ,   my comment was fully justified a year ago when the so called "knobhead army " was demanding the removal of a manager with an impressive CV at non league level .

Now I am certain that many can come up with many  names that have a superior CVs to the manager that now needs replacing .

In fact it would not surprise me if a Patter poster comes on and suggests his neighbour  for the job !!!   anyone on here live next door to Gary ?
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Artemis on September 17, 2017, 08:37:19 AM
There is a proven manager at  this level who has been successful on low budgets plus he is available.

He isn't every ones cup of tea but AM seems out of his depth.

What I noticed when AM first arrived he practically ignored Bunce  and wasn't surprised when Bunce  was no longer required in the dugout.  However yesterday Bunch was back in the dugout along with the rest of the hangers on and  AM was actively involving Bunce. 
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: youngchubby69 on September 17, 2017, 08:56:20 AM
David Newton has probably ordered that Bunny goes in there.
Looks like DN is covering all angles and probably making sure Bunny is familiar with the squad if needed to take over.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 17, 2017, 09:26:25 AM
Ignore AM after match comments (goes without saying now) most who witnessed the match will be of the opinion that in the last 10 mins Haughmond were gaining confidence by the minute .   Retain the same set up for Tues and we are probably doomed .  Big decisions for DN.

Lumbered with what we have got I suggest we take positive action and in the limited time try to lift players morale on and off the pitch .
Only option open to us as I see it place AM on gardening leave .
put Mcquire in midfield as captain/ manager and Bunny on the bench asst manager.
Chapman deserves a well earned rest ,  leave him at home for the night to catch up with Emmerdale .
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: father Ted on September 17, 2017, 09:48:07 AM
Bunce had a go when DG left, not for me .
  You may as well send for Steve Welsh or Dick Creasey
    5 League managers sacked yesterday ..
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: tom and jerry on September 17, 2017, 09:59:06 AM
How big does the squad need to be for christs sake? Every week more and more players come in and nothing changes. There must be 25 players on the books. Wage bill must be massive yet there's still no settled side. Bizarre
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Cavalier on September 17, 2017, 10:40:52 AM
How big does the squad need to be for christs sake? Every week more and more players come in and nothing changes. There must be 25 players on the books. Wage bill must be massive yet there's still no settled side. Bizarre

Current squad is 17+3 loans in=20 (19 with Vince suspended).  Only Beatson and Hare not in the team or sub yesterday.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: womble on September 17, 2017, 11:07:21 AM
I am disappointed and frustrated at how the season is going but I have to admire Adam's honesty at admitting he has made mistakes. He knows things need to change and needs to be given the chance to try. Unfortunately I think Greg Smith needs to go out on loan to get fit. Looked off the pace, couldn't hold the ball up and kept having a go at his team mates (not in a nice way).
Will be interesting to see what squad movement there is this week but whatever happens I will be there next saturday supporting the lads in amber and black.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 17, 2017, 11:46:29 AM
I am disappointed and frustrated at how the season is going but I have to admire Adam's honesty at admitting he has made mistakes. He knows things need to change and needs to be given the chance to try. Unfortunately I think Greg Smith needs to go out on loan to get fit. Looked off the pace, couldn't hold the ball up and kept having a go at his team mates (not in a nice way).
Will be interesting to see what squad movement there is this week but whatever happens I will be there next saturday supporting the lads in amber and black.

Not much option but to admit to mistakes  after 9 months or bad signings  or lack of ability to bring the best out of them .
Things are only getting worse .
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Bostonshire on September 17, 2017, 11:58:30 AM
I am disappointed and frustrated at how the season is going but I have to admire Adam's honesty at admitting he has made mistakes. He knows things need to change and needs to be given the chance to try. Unfortunately I think Greg Smith needs to go out on loan to get fit. Looked off the pace, couldn't hold the ball up and kept having a go at his team mates (not in a nice way).
Will be interesting to see what squad movement there is this week but whatever happens I will be there next saturday supporting the lads in amber and black.

Not much option but to admit to mistakes  after 9 months or bad signings  or lack of ability to bring the best out of them .
Things are only getting worse .

Im going to go with lack of ability to bring the best because i believe we have some really good players
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: oxo on September 17, 2017, 12:30:30 PM
I have said from day one that Chapman is a useless misfit and been castigated for not getting behind him. I have not shouted at him recently after being asked to support him and not upset him. Yesterday the big number six playing the same role as him for an unpaid team two leagues below had more ability in his little finger than Chapman. I have supported Adam but must now say that his persistence in playing a washed up footballer is really testing that support. Get rid of him Adam along with McGuire who is wearing out Mick Smalls cushion on goodness knows what money. It gives me no pleasure posting this but the supporters are really being short changed and trust me if you act on this plea the fans will get right behind you and the team again. I am here to be shot at but who ever shoots should give me proof I am wrong.    UTP.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Ghostwriter on September 17, 2017, 01:00:01 PM
Agree with your comments about their no 6 yesterday.  He is a big lad and performed the role for them that Chapman fails week on week to do for BUFC.  AM needs to make the change now as it looks to me as though we are only playing with 10 men most games.

I thought James Thomas added some much needed energy to midfield and look forward to seeing him play alongside Harry Vince.

Don't understand why we signed McGuire if all he does is warm the bench. Let's get rid and free up some cash for a much needed striker, as we needed our left back to score yesterday, as non of the strikers looked like doing so.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: The Third Twin on September 17, 2017, 01:35:03 PM
Nothing to cheer yesterday. Sadly, I wasn't surprised by the result. Have to congratulate the minnows from Haughmond. They didn't look like minnows by the end.

Whichever way AM dresses things up in interviews, he's ultimately responsible for the rubbish we are watching. Times up in my book. The Chestnuts need to find the balls to act regards his position. They let the Dennis situation fester too long, and I hope they don't make the same mistake twice.

A replay defeat would have to be the final straw, surely?
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Cousin Jack on September 17, 2017, 03:54:24 PM
 
     Haughmond were well organised & confident, but with four promotions in six seasons they would be. Still think that we will beat them in the replay IF we abandon the long ball and play possession football. Hope AM will drop Smith and give Tyrell Waite a chance.Five off his eight appearances have been off the bench, his only full 90 minutes being against Chorley and Tamworth - both wins and I thought he was combining well with Hemmings in preseason.  Haughmond"s home record isn't so good, perhaps we"ll play better away from what was a very subdued York Street yesterday?
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Artemis on September 17, 2017, 05:05:06 PM
I do wonder with rumours of dressing room unrest and the players seemingly cannot be bothered on the pitch that Murray is putting Chapman in the team every match to prevent the players from "forcing Murray's hand".  If the dressing room won't play for the manager then he will eventually lose his job.  Chapman and Murray are friends and any collution by the players would be prevented with Chapman in the team. 

However - including Chapman in the team will eventually cause Murray to lose his job anyway.

Even if we win on Tuesday I think he is one game away from losing his job.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: miele on September 17, 2017, 07:46:25 PM
did anyone go wotch boston town yesterday or no of anyone with coments pl.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: youngchubby69 on September 17, 2017, 09:18:23 PM
He won't be sacked,we can't afford to pay him off, and that's because he is on a four year contract.
Yes you will all say he is not, but believe me he is.
It's a four year project, and he will be still at the club, unless he is paid off and if he is the budget will be seriously affected for the next two seasons.
Promotion to the next league is not going to happen,why??
Let me ask you all a simple question, we don't have the money to compete for the best players in this league,so how are we going to be able to compete in the league above, it's a simple answer really we can't.
David Newton knows it will be financial suicide and the club will be in free fall,you have only got to look at NFU, even Halifax and money bags Fylde are not having it easy by a long shot.
We are stuck in this league for sometime to come.
I don't like it you don't like it,but that's how it is.
Sorry to be a party pooper but I am realistic and David Newton is also.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 17, 2017, 09:26:11 PM
He won't be sacked,we can't afford to pay him off, and that's because he is on a four year contract.
Yes you will all say he is not, but believe me he is.
It's a four year project, and he will be still at the club, unless he is paid off and if he is the budget will be seriously affected for the next two seasons.
Promotion to the next league is not going to happen,why??
Let me ask you all a simple question, we don't have the money to compete for the best players in this league,so how are we going to be able to compete in the league above, it's a simple answer really we can't.
David Newton knows it will be financial suicide and the club will be in free fall,you have only got to look at NFU, even Halifax and money bags Fylde are not having it easy by a long shot.
We are stuck in this league for sometime to come.
I don't like it you don't like it,but that's how it is.
Sorry to be a party pooper but I am realistic and David Newton is also.

If the four year contract is true chubby then we have already started the suicide process .
Ultimately it will be money i.e. declining gates that dictates Adams departure .
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Pilgrim86 on September 17, 2017, 09:27:06 PM
4 year contract, my *rse.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: noughtyforties on September 17, 2017, 09:33:02 PM
Personally I think DN has faith in his manager and he's going to give him every chance to turn things round.

Lots of rumblings of discontent 2 years ago especially after a grim home defeat to Chorley, but DN stood by DG and ultimately a play off place was delivered. We all know DN is a realist and he knows top 10 would be a major achievement given the silly money in this league, silly money I'm delighted we're not chucking about after the Evans/Sotnick/Rodwell era of boom and bust.

I may be wrong but I can see Adam being here for a long while yet.

 
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: The Third Twin on September 17, 2017, 09:38:01 PM
He won't be sacked,we can't afford to pay him off, and that's because he is on a four year contract.
Yes you will all say he is not, but believe me he is.
It's a four year project, and he will be still at the club, unless he is paid off and if he is the budget will be seriously affected for the next two seasons.
Promotion to the next league is not going to happen,why??
Let me ask you all a simple question, we don't have the money to compete for the best players in this league,so how are we going to be able to compete in the league above, it's a simple answer really we can't.
David Newton knows it will be financial suicide and the club will be in free fall,you have only got to look at NFU, even Halifax and money bags Fylde are not having it easy by a long shot.
We are stuck in this league for sometime to come.
I don't like it you don't like it,but that's how it is.
Sorry to be a party pooper but I am realistic and David Newton is also.
sorry to be a realist YC, but if the Chestnuts are as smart as you constantly remind us, there's no way a four year contract would be offered to any Boston manager, so I doubt very much what you said is anywhere near right.

A week ago you called for his head and crossed over to the dark side, and now you've seemingly jumped back to support his every move, and you seem to manage to argue with both sides of the debate at once.

Just to be sure, what's your personal viewpoint on AM and whether he should stay or go?
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Artemis on September 17, 2017, 09:46:08 PM
He may well be here for some time to come - but unless the matches start to be enjoyable to watch and we start to win at home then the attendance will continue to fall.

I don't think David Newton would be stupid enough to offer a 4 year contract to a manager with relatively little experience at managing (he hardly set the footballing world alight when he was manager at Mansfield) - and with no experience in non-league unless there were conditions attached to it.

And unless the team does start to perform better and soon - giving him until Christmas may be too late to turn it round.


Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 17, 2017, 09:47:14 PM
Personally I think DN has faith in his manager and he's going to give him every chance to turn things round.

Lots of rumblings of discontent 2 years ago especially after a grim home defeat to Chorley, but DN stood by DG and ultimately a play off place was delivered. We all know DN is a realist and he knows top 10 would be a major achievement given the silly money in this league, silly money I'm delighted we're not chucking about after the Evans/Sotnick/Rodwell era of boom and bust.

I may be wrong but I can see Adam being here for a long while yet.

I take it you don't agree with DN aspirations then Andy ,  you demanded the removal of a manager for "only" finishing 3rd and 5th in
the league .   
You also overlook the fact now we are based to attract players easier ,  pay fees ,  extra training , advanced training methods , anything less than 7th place would be a disaster , surely DN deserves better return for the backing he has given Murray .
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: youngchubby69 on September 17, 2017, 09:55:34 PM
I don't like it as much as you GHM, the club is in such a low.
Probably the lowest since we nearly went out of existence.
We really need our chairman to come out and give us his thoughts on our current situation, and we really need an update on the new ground.
I really don't want Adam to fail, but I will say that the two new signings looked good, but we really need a striker and quick.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: youngchubby69 on September 17, 2017, 10:14:59 PM
He won't be sacked,we can't afford to pay him off, and that's because he is on a four year contract.
Yes you will all say he is not, but believe me he is.
It's a four year project, and he will be still at the club, unless he is paid off and if he is the budget will be seriously affected for the next two seasons.
Promotion to the next league is not going to happen,why??
Let me ask you all a simple question, we don't have the money to compete for the best players in this league,so how are we going to be able to compete in the league above, it's a simple answer really we can't.
David Newton knows it will be financial suicide and the club will be in free fall,you have only got to look at NFU, even Halifax and money bags Fylde are not having it easy by a long shot.
We are stuck in this league for sometime to come.
I don't like it you don't like it,but that's how it is.
Sorry to be a party pooper but I am realistic and David Newton is also.
sorry to be a realist YC, but if the Chestnuts are as smart as you constantly remind us, there's no way a four year contract would be offered to any Boston manager, so I doubt very much what you said is anywhere near right.

A week ago you called for his head and crossed over to the dark side, and now you've seemingly jumped back to support his every move, and you seem to manage to argue with both sides of the debate at once.

Just to be sure, what's your personal viewpoint on AM and whether he should stay or go?

Stay.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: noughtyforties on September 17, 2017, 10:17:47 PM
Personally I think DN has faith in his manager and he's going to give him every chance to turn things round.

Lots of rumblings of discontent 2 years ago especially after a grim home defeat to Chorley, but DN stood by DG and ultimately a play off place was delivered. We all know DN is a realist and he knows top 10 would be a major achievement given the silly money in this league, silly money I'm delighted we're not chucking about after the Evans/Sotnick/Rodwell era of boom and bust.

I may be wrong but I can see Adam being here for a long while yet.

I take it you don't agree with DN aspirations then Andy ,  you demanded the removal of a manager for "only" finishing 3rd and 5th in
the league .   
You also overlook the fact now we are based to attract players easier ,  pay fees ,  extra training , advanced training methods , anything less than 7th place would be a disaster , surely DN deserves better return for the backing he has given Murray .

Greene was asking for the sack; he took full advantage of a rare DN mistake and signed that contract BEFORE the play off debacle against NFU knowing full well the team would need rebuilding that summer yet cleared off on a jaunt around the party hotspots of The Med while others went about their business. When the inevitable shambolic recruitment policy bore its rotten fruit he was quick to blame everyone from the fans to DN but not himself knowing eventually there'd be a parting of the ways and a pay off.

If Greene is as good as you and a few others think tell me why is he still out of work? Why is such a talent with such a glowing CV of achievement not working in football?  How can anyone of his stature pass under so many radar's when managers are getting fired after a few games?

I still maintain individually we're head and shoulders above last season's rabble, conversely I'll also maintain its ultimately AM's team and therefore his responsibility to get a reaction from them. At present he's coming up well short and it does need to change and quickly, but I maintain he deserves time to sort it out, sacking him will achieve nothing other than destabilizing an already rocky ship.
   
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: youngchubby69 on September 17, 2017, 10:23:41 PM
Personally I think DN has faith in his manager and he's going to give him every chance to turn things round.

Lots of rumblings of discontent 2 years ago especially after a grim home defeat to Chorley, but DN stood by DG and ultimately a play off place was delivered. We all know DN is a realist and he knows top 10 would be a major achievement given the silly money in this league, silly money I'm delighted we're not chucking about after the Evans/Sotnick/Rodwell era of boom and bust.

I may be wrong but I can see Adam being here for a long while yet.
So how do you rate Murray above Green then, was it because Green was a poor manager, or was it just personal.
Are you sometime soon going to start giving Murray a bucket full??
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: youngchubby69 on September 17, 2017, 11:02:33 PM
Personally I think DN has faith in his manager and he's going to give him every chance to turn things round.

Lots of rumblings of discontent 2 years ago especially after a grim home defeat to Chorley, but DN stood by DG and ultimately a play off place was delivered. We all know DN is a realist and he knows top 10 would be a major achievement given the silly money in this league, silly money I'm delighted we're not chucking about after the Evans/Sotnick/Rodwell era of boom and bust.

I may be wrong but I can see Adam being here for a long while yet.

I take it you don't agree with DN aspirations then Andy ,  you demanded the removal of a manager for "only" finishing 3rd and 5th in
the league .   
You also overlook the fact now we are based to attract players easier ,  pay fees ,  extra training , advanced training methods , anything less than 7th place would be a disaster , surely DN deserves better return for the backing he has given Murray .

Greene was asking for the sack; he took full advantage of a rare DN mistake and signed that contract BEFORE the play off debacle against NFU knowing full well the team would need rebuilding that summer yet cleared off on a jaunt around the party hotspots of The Med while others went about their business. When the inevitable shambolic recruitment policy bore its rotten fruit he was quick to blame everyone from the fans to DN but not himself knowing eventually there'd be a parting of the ways and a pay off.

If Greene is as good as you and a few others think tell me why is he still out of work? Why is such a talent with such a glowing CV of achievement not working in football?  How can anyone of his stature pass under so many radar's when managers are getting fired after a few games?

I still maintain individually we're head and shoulders above last season's rabble, conversely I'll also maintain its ultimately AM's team and therefore his responsibility to get a reaction from them. At present he's coming up well short and it does need to change and quickly, but I maintain he deserves time to sort it out, sacking him will achieve nothing other than destabilizing an already rocky ship.
 
God you have a chip on your shoulder still, Dennis Green is still out of work because he has plenty of money left from his pay off from DN.
Yes from the sacking that you instigated, why the hell did anyone listen to you, probably because you shouted your mouth off at Green, and of course being the super fan you are, everyone around you had no choice but to listen.
And the sad thing is we now have to watch what you wanted,and you still defend your behaviour.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Fishtoft Crew on September 18, 2017, 06:45:49 AM
YC this is Boston United not Manchester United how much do you think Greene got as a pay off. Six-eight weeks pay id imagine surely not enough to live off for this long, dont always agree with NF view but I am with him on this one.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: noughtyforties on September 18, 2017, 07:04:05 AM
Personally I think DN has faith in his manager and he's going to give him every chance to turn things round.

Lots of rumblings of discontent 2 years ago especially after a grim home defeat to Chorley, but DN stood by DG and ultimately a play off place was delivered. We all know DN is a realist and he knows top 10 would be a major achievement given the silly money in this league, silly money I'm delighted we're not chucking about after the Evans/Sotnick/Rodwell era of boom and bust.

I may be wrong but I can see Adam being here for a long while yet.

I take it you don't agree with DN aspirations then Andy ,  you demanded the removal of a manager for "only" finishing 3rd and 5th in
the league .   
You also overlook the fact now we are based to attract players easier ,  pay fees ,  extra training , advanced training methods , anything less than 7th place would be a disaster , surely DN deserves better return for the backing he has given Murray .

Greene was asking for the sack; he took full advantage of a rare DN mistake and signed that contract BEFORE the play off debacle against NFU knowing full well the team would need rebuilding that summer yet cleared off on a jaunt around the party hotspots of The Med while others went about their business. When the inevitable shambolic recruitment policy bore its rotten fruit he was quick to blame everyone from the fans to DN but not himself knowing eventually there'd be a parting of the ways and a pay off.

If Greene is as good as you and a few others think tell me why is he still out of work? Why is such a talent with such a glowing CV of achievement not working in football?  How can anyone of his stature pass under so many radar's when managers are getting fired after a few games?

I still maintain individually we're head and shoulders above last season's rabble, conversely I'll also maintain its ultimately AM's team and therefore his responsibility to get a reaction from them. At present he's coming up well short and it does need to change and quickly, but I maintain he deserves time to sort it out, sacking him will achieve nothing other than destabilizing an already rocky ship.
 
God you have a chip on your shoulder still, Dennis Green is still out of work because he has plenty of money left from his pay off from DN.
Yes from the sacking that you instigated, why the hell did anyone listen to you, probably because you shouted your mouth off at Green, and of course being the super fan you are, everyone around you had no choice but to listen.
And the sad thing is we now have to watch what you wanted,and you still defend your behaviour.

And you really think DN listened to me?

You must be more deluded than I took you for.......

If I remember that afternoon v Halifax I was far from being the only dissenting voice but there you go. Would you like to mention the gathering by the tunnel after the game too by 100+ people?

I was 100% right that afternoon too, the only shame is I didn't say it a few weeks earlier, we might have been shut of him sooner.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on September 18, 2017, 11:42:10 AM
Leaving suited DG as he'd just become a father. I imagine having some time away from football has enabled  him to fulfill his parental duties without distractions.

With regards to the abuse he received, particularly one evening game, the said individual should really have done this on a one to one basis rather than the soap box way. It reminded me of that premier league game when the fan threw his season ticket at the dug out. No need for that anywhere - particularly at this level.

TEP

Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: kingofnaves on September 18, 2017, 12:41:20 PM
Went to Spain to sell some boxes! Sounds about right when one of his tweets was located in Spain!!!
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: howmanynames2pick on September 18, 2017, 01:04:24 PM
DG's mother lives out in Spain!
is he not allowed to go and visit his mother ffs
was he not allowed a holiday??
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Lee Newell on September 18, 2017, 01:07:12 PM
Third qualifying round -

AFC Mansfield or Rushall Olympic v Boston United or Haughmond

Away draw :(  But against lower league opposition so theoretically a better chance of progressing if we can beat Haughmond tomorrow.


But home draw for Boston Town

Boston Town v Warrington Town or Hyde United
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 18, 2017, 02:21:40 PM
Personally I think DN has faith in his manager and he's going to give him every chance to turn things round.

Lots of rumblings of discontent 2 years ago especially after a grim home defeat to Chorley, but DN stood by DG and ultimately a play off place was delivered. We all know DN is a realist and he knows top 10 would be a major achievement given the silly money in this league, silly money I'm delighted we're not chucking about after the Evans/Sotnick/Rodwell era of boom and bust.

I may be wrong but I can see Adam being here for a long while yet.

I take it you don't agree with DN aspirations then Andy ,  you demanded the removal of a manager for "only" finishing 3rd and 5th in
the league .   
You also overlook the fact now we are based to attract players easier ,  pay fees ,  extra training , advanced training methods , anything less than 7th place would be a disaster , surely DN deserves better return for the backing he has given Murray .

Greene was asking for the sack; he took full advantage of a rare DN mistake and signed that contract BEFORE the play off debacle against NFU knowing full well the team would need rebuilding that summer yet cleared off on a jaunt around the party hotspots of The Med while others went about their business. When the inevitable shambolic recruitment policy bore its rotten fruit he was quick to blame everyone from the fans to DN but not himself knowing eventually there'd be a parting of the ways and a pay off.

If Greene is as good as you and a few others think tell me why is he still out of work? Why is such a talent with such a glowing CV of achievement not working in football?  How can anyone of his stature pass under so many radar's when managers are getting fired after a few games?

I still maintain individually we're head and shoulders above last season's rabble, conversely I'll also maintain its ultimately AM's team and therefore his responsibility to get a reaction from them. At present he's coming up well short and it does need to change and quickly, but I maintain he deserves time to sort it out, sacking him will achieve nothing other than destabilizing an already rocky ship.
 
I did hear that Greene went off on a med jaunt for a few weeks last summer while others were rebuilding teams .
Can you enlighten me Andy as to what Adam has been up to the last 9 months that has seen  him fail to improve the poor squad he inherited .?

It is good and wise for Adam not to blame the chairman for our mess,  but I am not so sure if he is wise to blame it on the fans and players .
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: noughtyforties on September 18, 2017, 02:40:51 PM
An over reliance on youth and senior players letting him down.

And we're not party to what goes on behind the scenes, however the squads of a few seasons back seemed to have a good spirit, like a close bunch of mates; I'm not sure there's that togetherness here.

I still maintain man for man its a better squad than last seasons.

However you can't compare it with squads from the last 4 or 5 years.

Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Artemis on September 18, 2017, 04:08:53 PM
An over reliance on youth and senior players letting him down.

And we're not party to what goes on behind the scenes, however the squads of a few seasons back seemed to have a good spirit, like a close bunch of mates; I'm not sure there's that togetherness here.

I still maintain man for man its a better squad than last seasons.


So if we have the players but they aren't performing - that is down to the Manager. 
He didn't perform well at Mansfield and so far at Boston United he is doing a worse job and the performances aren't improving.

He appears to blame the fans for the players' performances at home - what is his excuse for away matches where our performances are even worse?
He can't keep bringing out the excuse that his team has a lot of young players - because 2 seasons ago - Scott Garner was the oldest player in the team and he was only 24.  It is his team and if he is unable to motivate them - then I suggest he leaves it to someone who can.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 18, 2017, 04:17:27 PM
An over reliance on youth and senior players letting him down.

And we're not party to what goes on behind the scenes, however the squads of a few seasons back seemed to have a good spirit, like a close bunch of mates; I'm not sure there's that togetherness here.

I still maintain man for man its a better squad than last seasons.

However you can't compare it with squads from the last 4 or 5 years.

We can't have over reliance on youth ,  Vince is our only youth ,  fully agree senior players (Mansfield 4) letting us down , sadly Adam can't see it .
Certainly it is easy to assess that the present team morale is lagging way behind the teams of past years .

If your assertion that man for man this seasons squad is superior to last seasons is correct then it begs the question why no improvement in results ?    Extra training , advanced training equipment , full-time manager what's gone wrong ? Is it that we underestimated Greens coaching ability or have you been taken in by Adams bullsh*t .?

Correctly you say we can't compare it to teams of the last 4/5 yeats ,    Newsham , Miller, Souhwell , Pidge , Mills , Steer, Garner , Agnew, Stryjek etc etc .says it all . 
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: youngchubby69 on September 19, 2017, 03:32:30 PM
As anyone took notice of who the ref is tonight,its only Mr Massey Ellis, which means he will do some of these things, send one of our players off, give a penalty against us, disallow our goal,be totally biased for our opponents.
We are now certainly going to go out, He is the worst ref ever to take charge of our games.
Remember Kettering last year, he just hates Boston.
A complete knob head, who lives in the shadow of his wife.
God help us tonight.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: noughtyforties on September 19, 2017, 03:56:31 PM
As anyone took notice of who the ref is tonight,its only Mr Massey Ellis, which means he will do some of these things, send one of our players off, give a penalty against us, disallow our goal,be totally biased for our opponents.
We are now certainly going to go out, He is the worst ref ever to take charge of our games.
Remember Kettering last year, he just hates Boston.
A complete knob head, who lives in the shadow of his wife.
God help us tonight.

I saw that too.

Not a great omen it has to be said.

I'm loathe to blame referee's as without them there is no game and they are at this level because, like the players, they are either on the way up or in most cases not good enough to go any higher. I cringe at some of the abuse dished out to officials but this guy does seem to have an issue with us.

But we had our chance on Saturday, there can be no blaming outside influences if we don't progress, the buck must stop with the players and management.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 19, 2017, 04:42:58 PM
As anyone took notice of who the ref is tonight,its only Mr Massey Ellis, which means he will do some of these things, send one of our players off, give a penalty against us, disallow our goal,be totally biased for our opponents.
We are now certainly going to go out, He is the worst ref ever to take charge of our games.
Remember Kettering last year, he just hates Boston.
A complete knob head, who lives in the shadow of his wife.
God help us tonight.

I saw that too.

Not a great omen it has to be said.

I'm loathe to blame referee's as without them there is no game and they are at this level because, like the players, they are either on the way up or in most cases not good enough to go any higher. I cringe at some of the abuse dished out to officials but this guy does seem to have an issue with us.

But we had our chance on Saturday, there can be no blaming outside influences if we don't progress, the buck must stop with the players and management.

Correct Andy ,       
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 19, 2017, 04:53:12 PM
Brad McGowan has signed up until the end of the season .    In my opinion our best defender , some good news on signings at last .

Anyone know admission prices for tonight ?
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Tash on September 19, 2017, 05:12:55 PM
Brad McGowan has signed up until the end of the season .    In my opinion our best defender , some good news on signings at last .

Anyone know admission prices for tonight ?

Pete you're in danger of becoming a subtle DT of W😀
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on September 19, 2017, 06:03:54 PM
Haughmond are 5/1 on B365. Boston 2/5  :-\
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 19, 2017, 06:21:51 PM
Haughmond are 5/1 on B365. Boston 2/5  :-\

Your as hesitant as our defenders TEP ,  at that price rush to the bookies and slap some new ten pound notes on a Haughmond win .
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: The Third Twin on September 19, 2017, 06:36:24 PM
As anyone took notice of who the ref is tonight,its only Mr Massey Ellis, which means he will do some of these things, send one of our players off, give a penalty against us, disallow our goal,be totally biased for our opponents.
We are now certainly going to go out, He is the worst ref ever to take charge of our games.
Remember Kettering last year, he just hates Boston.
A complete knob head, who lives in the shadow of his wife.
God help us tonight.
he NEVER gives us anything apart from headaches. His wife is 100 times the ref that he is.  One word comes to mind......"bugger"!
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Tash on September 19, 2017, 08:58:55 PM
2 up could this be Adams Fergie moment ???
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: The Third Twin on September 19, 2017, 09:10:58 PM
2 up could this be Adams Fergie moment ???
let's hope he has a "EurekA" moment and realises his self proclaimed "best midfielder" is best warming the bench.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Lee Newell on September 19, 2017, 09:11:04 PM
4 nil up, we're into the next round  :)
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: youngchubby69 on September 19, 2017, 09:21:00 PM
I said in a previous post that Clifton is a good player and I was right.
Come on you Pilgrims.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: father Ted on September 19, 2017, 09:28:49 PM
Ye he looks a Fylde type .. :angel:
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: father Ted on September 19, 2017, 09:36:12 PM
Now there's an U17 on the pitch for Boston .bring it on  ;)
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: youngchubby69 on September 19, 2017, 09:45:13 PM
5-0
Well-done done Boston and a very we'll done to Adam.
Dropped his mate and a very good win
Yes against a lower league team.
And an away tie against AFC Mansfield.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: youngchubby69 on September 19, 2017, 09:54:03 PM
As anyone took notice of who the ref is tonight,its only Mr Massey Ellis, which means he will do some of these things, send one of our players off, give a penalty against us, disallow our goal,be totally biased for our opponents.
We are now certainly going to go out, He is the worst ref ever to take charge of our games.
Remember Kettering last year, he just hates Boston.
A complete knob head, who lives in the shadow of his wife.
God help us tonight.

I saw that too.

Not a great omen it has to be said.

I'm loathe to blame referee's as without them there is no game and they are at this level because, like the players, they are either on the way up or in most cases not good enough to go any higher. I cringe at some of the abuse dished out to officials but this guy does seem to have an issue with us.

But we had our chance on Saturday, there can be no blaming outside influences if we don't progress, the buck must stop with the players and management.

Well that's a first Andy, he gave us a penalty and didn't send anyone off, but did disallow a goal.
But 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: oxo on September 19, 2017, 09:59:44 PM
Come on you Adam critics lets hear what you have to say now. Yes it was a lower league team, Adam had the balls to drop Chapman and how interesting that he took the captains armband into the dressing room tossed it on the floor and told them to choose their captain. Out came Clifford wearing it and scoring two goals this must convince Adam that this should be the start of a new chapter.  UTP.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: noughtyforties on September 19, 2017, 10:04:59 PM
I'm sure some people will have mixed feelings about tonight's result.........
I hope we get a positive result on Saturday, another at Mansfield in the next round and get the season back on track.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 19, 2017, 10:11:40 PM
Come on you Adam critics lets hear what you have to say now. Yes it was a lower league team, Adam had the balls to drop Chapman and how interesting that he took the captains armband into the dressing room tossed it on the floor and told them to choose their captain. Out came Clifford wearing it and scoring two goals this must convince Adam that this should be the start of a new chapter.  UTP.

Got to do it against professional players on a regular basis Mel ,  given him breathing space and progress in the cup .

I disagree with you about him having balls to drop Chapman ,   I see it as him not having the balls to ignore you and chubby  :)

Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: oxo on September 19, 2017, 10:13:22 PM
Love it Pete.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: The Third Twin on September 19, 2017, 10:14:55 PM
Come on you Adam critics lets hear what you have to say now. Yes it was a lower league team, Adam had the balls to drop Chapman and how interesting that he took the captains armband into the dressing room tossed it on the floor and told them to choose their captain. Out came Clifford wearing it and scoring two goals this must convince Adam that this should be the start of a new chapter.  UTP.
It's the players who should be praised for a much better performance. I will take a rain check 're; AM, and see what team he picks on Saturday. If Chapman's back in, then AM learnt nothing from either leaving him out tonight, or the result or the performance. And, yes, I am an AM critic, and come 5pm on saturday, I'll happily apologise if he's picked the same or a similar side, and they've put in a decent performance. If that happens, then i will admit I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: Mick lawson on September 19, 2017, 10:18:16 PM
What a difference playing attacking football makes the team have finally had there shackles taken off and aloud to play. Great team performance.
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: father Ted on September 19, 2017, 10:18:31 PM
If AM can reach FAC 4Q that wiill satisfy owners FAcupwise..
  But the League should  be a pressing matter still ..
Title: Re: Vs Haughmond
Post by: green hats mate on September 19, 2017, 10:40:16 PM
Love it Pete.

Yes Mel ,  and we will all love it when you and chubby complete your crusade by getting AM to pledge that Chapmans arse will be stuck to Mick Smalls cushion for the remainder of the season   :)