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Title: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: The Third Twin on August 12, 2017, 01:46:22 PM
their bus has broken down.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: bostonwoody on August 12, 2017, 02:07:59 PM
Is anybody consoling it?
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: jelangley on August 12, 2017, 02:18:02 PM
sounds a tad fishy to me
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: The Third Twin on August 12, 2017, 02:25:48 PM
Is anybody consoling it?
They should be! If I was a conspiracy theorist, I would say there may be an alternate reason for not arriving on time... according to their twitter they only set off just after eleven, which was never getting to Boston until very close to kick-off, if on time at all. I made exactly that journey this week in a car and it took just under 4 hours. Did the bus initially break down before they left Co. Durham? According to their own official website, there were players needing fitness tests this morning, curious timing perhaps? Maybe they have players who have not turned up at the meeting points? Maybe the Delorean they usually use didn't turn up? Seems a little strange, and indeed hasty, to postpone before kick-off time. I presume a delayed kick-off may not have been considered? Did the match officials have urgent things pre-arranged this evening? Dare I even mention betting patterns?
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Ken Fox on August 12, 2017, 02:28:16 PM
Remember I was saying that last week's game at Southport was the biggest opening day defeat for Boston United in the history of the club - the only defeat coming close was the 4-1 loss to Peterborough in 1950/51 (http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/seas50.html). Well later on in that season Boston played the return match at Peterborough and four Boston players failed to arrive because their car had broken down. Rather than call off the match Club Director Reg Dilley and club trainer Freddy Tunstall took to the field for United as replacements, even though Tunstall was 52 years old at the time! And they only lost 3-1.  :)
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Steviemas on August 12, 2017, 02:45:26 PM
There supporters bus passed them and offered to swap coaches, their manager refused, something very fishy.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: jelangley on August 12, 2017, 02:50:28 PM
obv very dissapointing as was taking my lads to the game - thi k its disgusting that they couldnt get there, as a club they should be fined aa have let alot of people down no doubt costing them for nowt
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: youngchubby69 on August 12, 2017, 03:15:38 PM
This needs to be investigated by the League and FA , remember Chorley last season with the frozen pitch saga.
Surely if they were offered a coach by their supporters, they would have taken it if they seriously wanted the game to go ahead,which they didn't because of injuries to their squad.
If they Spenymore called it off, surely they must now forfeit the game and Boston get the three points.
Does anyone on here know what the rules are regarding postponements and genuine reasons for this.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: green hats mate on August 12, 2017, 04:00:02 PM
Remember I was saying that last week's game at Southport was the biggest opening day defeat for Boston United in the history of the club - the only defeat coming close was the 4-1 loss to Peterborough in 1950/51 (http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/seas50.html). Well later on in that season Boston played the return match at Peterborough and four Boston players failed to arrive because their car had broken down. Rather than call off the match Club Director Reg Dilley and club trainer Freddy Tunstall took to the field for United as replacements, even though Tunstall was 52 years old at the time! And they only lost 3-1.  :)

Remember being at that match ,  seem to recall Tommy Lowder playing for Boston that day.  I guess the crowd would be 6k -8k .
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: yam man on August 12, 2017, 04:39:39 PM
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There supporters bus passed them and offered to swap coaches, their manager refused, something very fishy.


Insurance?
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: wismo on August 12, 2017, 04:45:57 PM
Where did the bus break down?
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Ken Fox on August 12, 2017, 05:24:38 PM
Where did the bus break down?

Doncaster apparently. Here's Duncan Browne's account in the Standard.

http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/sport/football/boston-united/we-offered-to-send-mini-buses-murray-frustrated-as-boston-united-v-spennymoor-postponed-an-hour-before-kick-off-1-8100111 (http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/sport/football/boston-united/we-offered-to-send-mini-buses-murray-frustrated-as-boston-united-v-spennymoor-postponed-an-hour-before-kick-off-1-8100111)
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: dt woodhall on August 12, 2017, 05:55:15 PM
This is diabolical. They should be fined by our league (I am sure we would
if the circumstances were the opposite ) they should have to reimburse
Boston Utd all reasonable costs incurred eg stewards, ref fees, travelling
by our players etc and clearly forfeit the 3 points for the game.

I am sure the league will bottle out of any contentious decision but from
what has been said on here there seems to be something very dodgy
about them trying to get here at all.

Typical it was the first game I was able to come to after 2 years of illness
only to be told as I walked down York St it was off
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Steviemas on August 12, 2017, 06:45:34 PM
Just read the Spennymoor statement on their website,  ::)
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: garry@ on August 12, 2017, 06:46:35 PM
https://spennymoortownfc.co.uk/club-statement-boston-united-vs-spennymoor-town-fixture/
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: green hats mate on August 12, 2017, 07:04:22 PM
There supporters bus passed them and offered to swap coaches, their manager refused, something very fishy.
   
Can see why having read the statement ,  the supporters bus belonging to the same company broke down tues night taking fans to AFC Man Und .     Would it have made Boston ?          Real Micky Mouse stuff .
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on August 12, 2017, 07:17:50 PM
Really annoyed with this. Left a function early in Newark to get Boston for 2pm. My brother had also travelled up from Cornwall. This is a shambles. Bad enough last year with the Chorley game.

Spennymoor should lose the points.

TEP
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Crazy Neil on August 12, 2017, 07:51:53 PM
Fishier than all the Grimsby trawlers put together. Referee was happy for it to be a later kick off so why they shifting the blame, it came from their management and the staff that had arrived in a mini bus.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: The Third Twin on August 12, 2017, 08:32:52 PM
Is there a coincidence that Dan Lowson (shoulder) was named by them on their official site and official match preview, as one player out of three who faced a late fitness test? The relevance? He's their keeper! I'll let the rest of you join the dots......
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Steviemas on August 12, 2017, 08:54:33 PM
Sat in social club chatting to a fellow who's nephew was playing for spennymoor, he was in contact with him on their team bus, fully assured that their manager turned down the offer of  swapping coaches, what I gather didn't want the game to go ahead, pure speculation though, don't believe a word, :blank:
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Burgh Boy on August 12, 2017, 09:00:59 PM
Another farcical situation which, like the Chorley game, makes a mockery of Step 2 Non-League Football.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Bunyan on August 12, 2017, 09:42:49 PM
Perhaps we have just found a club that is even more tinpot than Trinity!🙂
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: stevie blue on August 13, 2017, 11:03:28 AM
Perhaps we have just found a club that is even more tinpot than Trinity!🙂

I really don't know what why your mentioning "Trinity" a far as I can see they are a well run Club. As know doubt you judge Boston! 
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: beefpilgrim on August 13, 2017, 11:38:31 AM
Yes i think Ferriby has overtook Trinity now.
Trinity are in third spot.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Pilgrim86 on August 13, 2017, 11:51:06 AM
Perhaps we have just found a club that is even more tinpot than Trinity!🙂

I really don't know what why your mentioning "Trinity" a far as I can see they are a well run Club. As know doubt you judge Boston! 

Ooh, defensive ;)
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: stevie blue on August 13, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
Perhaps we have just found a club that is even more tinpot than Trinity!🙂

I really don't know what why your mentioning "Trinity" a far as I can see they are a well run Club. As know doubt you judge Boston! 

Ooh, defensive ;)
Of course  :)
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: green hats mate on August 13, 2017, 02:18:00 PM
Can,t recall Trinity having any embarrassing incidents that could be termed tinpot .

A club run to live within its means having at the same time maintained it status .

NFU ?   Sinking fast ,  true football fans will give little sympathy .
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Pilgrim86 on August 13, 2017, 02:34:35 PM
Can,t recall Trinity having any embarrassing incidents that could be termed tinpot .

Apart from being chucked out of the FA Cup? They've also never been promoted... that's tinpottery on its own.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Dipdodah on August 13, 2017, 03:14:06 PM
Can,t recall Trinity having any embarrassing incidents that could be termed tinpot .

Apart from being chucked out of the FA Cup? They've also never been promoted... that's tinpottery on its own.

I know what you're saying, but we are not in a position to judge.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: green hats mate on August 13, 2017, 03:14:54 PM
Can,t recall Trinity having any embarrassing incidents that could be termed tinpot .

Apart from being chucked out of the FA Cup? They've also never been promoted... that's tinpottery on its own.

I think you are talking about a loan cock-up between Gainsborough and IMPS .

Tinpot stuff by Trinity ,   Our transfer "cock ups "    took us to he high court and the national media as well  as sowing the seeds that took us to the verge of extinction .


Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: lonegunman on August 13, 2017, 07:05:38 PM
I have no real interest in Trinity but their fans do.
To them that team and all that goes with it no doubt means the world to them.
Just the same as Boston does to us, I say good luck to Trinity, except when we play them of course.  ;)
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: father Ted on August 13, 2017, 09:56:00 PM
 Spennymoor won't complete the season at this rate .. ???
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: garry@ on August 13, 2017, 11:44:42 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-33109986

TINPOT!!
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: garry@ on August 13, 2017, 11:50:54 PM
Spennymoor won't complete the season at this rate .. ???

Spennymoor caused chaos last time they didn't complete a season, or a team from spennymoor before anyone says.

PMSL at their Moto on side of their van that managed to make it to York street
"With hope no one shall fail"
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Ernie100 on August 14, 2017, 09:35:16 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-33109986

TINPOT!!
 ;D ;D

Just had a look, lower down the page it says "Gainsborough a potted history" shouldn't that have read "A Tinpotted History" ;)
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on August 14, 2017, 03:41:48 PM
Rearranged for Tuesday 22nd August.

TEP
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Martyn Bishop on August 14, 2017, 07:23:03 PM
Damn, I'm on holiday. A long way to come back from Bognor Regis. Chris B says he's arranged another match for us to see down there.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Dave H on August 14, 2017, 08:01:32 PM
I wouldn't worry , with Spennymoor  having the equivalent of  Hoggs Buses  ;) run their team and supporters coach (2 breakdown in the last 5 days) I'm quite confident they'll get a hat trick and won't make it .
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: youngchubby69 on August 14, 2017, 08:36:52 PM
I suppose that will depend on how many injuries they have, to as if they show up or not.
Perhaps David Newton should send a spare coach up just in case, but they would probably refuse to get on that one, probably would be the wrong colour or the seats are to hard, any pathetic excuse will do for them.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on August 14, 2017, 09:13:40 PM
Apparently they are setting off on Sunday....
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: The Third Twin on August 14, 2017, 09:39:33 PM
Apparently they are setting off on Sunday....
more likely at 4pm Tuesday if rumours of journey time from Saturday are to be believed, but of course, only if the keeper is fit!
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Burgh Boy on August 14, 2017, 11:11:57 PM
Apparently they are setting off on Sunday....
more likely at 4pm Tuesday if rumours of journey time from Saturday are to be believed, but of course, only if the keeper is fit!

Lol! Shame the League doesn't stamp out all this kind of sharp practice or at least investigate the alleged circumstances as to why they failed to turn up on Saturday. Makes a mockery of the competition and takes the micky out of both sets of fans.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: The Third Twin on August 14, 2017, 11:34:21 PM
Apparently they are setting off on Sunday....
more likely at 4pm Tuesday if rumours of journey time from Saturday are to be believed, but of course, only if the keeper is fit!

Lol! Shame the League doesn't stamp out all this kind of sharp practice or at least investigate the alleged circumstances as to why they failed to turn up on Saturday. Makes a mockery of the competition and takes the micky out of both sets of fans.
agreed. It may be a case of 2+3=5, but the info i have quoted is all on their own social media / official web etc. Departure time on official twitter, keeper injury on their official web preview, And if you go on their unofficial forum on Facebook, you can see one of their fans stating his own embarrassment over the issue, agreeing the above is very likely, and correcting another of his own fans!
Of course, I could have it all wrong, and the bus just broke down, but that wouldn't be half as interesting!
Maybe next Tuesday there'll be a freak frost about 19.30 and Spayne Road will be unplayable?
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: John C on August 15, 2017, 07:01:45 AM
I think it is disappointing that Spennymoor are compensating their fans who made the journey to Boston on Saturday but have made no gesture to the Boston supporters who were inconvenienced.

I know it wouldn't help every Boston fan (including myself), but it would be polite on their part to, for example, offer to fund the BUSA bus for the return fixture.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Cavalier on August 15, 2017, 10:19:24 AM
Have Spenneymoor been fined for not fulfilling a fixture?  Although it would be impracticable to implement, it would be great if they were made to compensate those of our fans who made long and wasted journeys last Saturday.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on August 15, 2017, 11:30:41 AM
I can't believe they won't be fined. Otherwise any team could do this. Have a few players out injured, order a crap bus, 'breakdown' - play the fixture at a later date. If they don't get fined or docked points, they have nothing to lose.

TEP
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: yam man on August 15, 2017, 01:23:53 PM
Have Spenneymoor been fined for not fulfilling a fixture?  Although it would be impracticable to implement, it was be great if they were made to compensate those of our fans who made long and wasted journeys last Saturday.

And who might not bother now it's an evening kickoff. I'm sure BUFC will be worse off financially.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Ernie100 on August 15, 2017, 03:19:15 PM
Have Spenneymoor been fined for not fulfilling a fixture?  Although it would be impracticable to implement, it was be great if they were made to compensate those of our fans who made long and wasted journeys last Saturday.

And who might not bother now it's an evening kickoff. I'm sure BUFC will be worse off financially.

Will they even have a team to fulfil an evening kick off with their coach having to depart at about 2pm to get here for 7pm, allowing for the A1 traffic.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: green hats mate on August 15, 2017, 04:56:17 PM
See that Compass the coach company have apologised to the Spennymoor fans and club .   they are also giving free transport for the fans and team next Tuesday .       Shame they can't give a cost free apology to BUFC and the fans for the expense and inconvenience caused .
Not a very professional run company .
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: leicester pilgrim on August 15, 2017, 06:25:02 PM
Spennymoor need to do something to apologise, but not sure that them paying for the BUSA coach for the reverse fixture would be the right gesture. Most of the people who travel on the BUSA coach will be living local to Boston, whereas the people most inconvenienced by Saturday would have been the ones making longer trips to York Street. My round trip is 3 hours, others come from further away. Wouldn't the fairest solution be for Spennymoor to offer free ground admission to all away fans in January?
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: green hats mate on August 15, 2017, 07:03:36 PM
Spennymoor need to do something to apologise, but not sure that them paying for the BUSA coach for the reverse fixture would be the right gesture. Most of the people who travel on the BUSA coach will be living local to Boston, whereas the people most inconvenienced by Saturday would have been the ones making longer trips to York Street. My round trip is 3 hours, others come from further away. Wouldn't the fairest solution be for Spennymoor to offer free ground admission to all away fans in January?

YES.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: John C on August 16, 2017, 06:43:26 PM
Yes LP my first thought was free admission for Boston fans for the return fixture for exactly the same reasons as you (I travelled from Sheffield on Saturday ultimately to watch Boston Town v Newport Pagnell) but I wasn't sure how easy this would be to sort out. Would there be league regulations about minimum pricing for matches which rule out free admission? I have no idea but it wouldn't surprise me if there were. The free coaches whilst not helping me, you and the others who travel from out of Boston to games, would at least be straightforward to arrange.

I don't suppose Spennymoor will do anything though. I'll just have to settle for cheering on whoever is playing them for the rest of the season and you can't have too many clubs you want to lose!
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on August 17, 2017, 08:29:08 AM
Yes LP my first thought was free admission for Boston fans for the return fixture for exactly the same reasons as you (I travelled from Sheffield on Saturday ultimately to watch Boston Town v Newport Pagnell) but I wasn't sure how easy this would be to sort out. Would there be league regulations about minimum pricing for matches which rule out free admission? I have no idea but it wouldn't surprise me if there were. The free coaches whilst not helping me, you and the others who travel from out of Boston to games, would at least be straightforward to arrange.

I don't suppose Spennymoor will do anything though. I'll just have to settle for cheering on whoever is playing them for the rest of the season and you can't have too many clubs you want to lose!

It's the trauma of the screaming kids on the Skeg train I want compensating for.
Title: Re: Vs Spennymoor MATCH OFF
Post by: leicester pilgrim on October 11, 2017, 07:00:41 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41570290

Well done Eastleigh. Now time for Spennymoor to follow the precedent.