Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: green hats mate on May 17, 2017, 04:19:01 PM
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Beginning this coming season the 6th and 7th places qualify for the play-offs . With the expansion of full-time clubs and rumours of another club getting millionaire backing play-offs still a big ask for us .
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If we finish 6th or 7th it would be seen as progress from this season. However before the start of the season surely we should set the aim to finish in the top 5.
Just re-read to see that that finishing 7th could mean a play off spot, would be an interesting change.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39951821
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So is'nt it time we saw few signings / or intention to sign ?
Even Gainsboro have made signings according to Picheroo ..
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Given the managers hype and ambition for the club, there can be no excuses next season and we must be aiming for top 5 surely ? Forget all the talk about 'money clubs', money does not automatically buy success. Forget about where we sit on the map of the Country, the size of our club should sell itself to ambitious players regardless of travel. But, we must have some solid, proven, signings come the start of the season. A new team from scratch needs time to gel and get an understanding of each other, but we cannot afford a poor start again. Would be nice if we can get the majority of the team in place come the pre season games, with the odd addition added during those trials.
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Newsnow seems a good source on Conf North movements
See a Euromillions winner is backing ..Alfreton .
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Newsnow seems a good source on Conf North movements
See a Euromillions winner is backing ..Alfreton .
former Grimsby director I believe.
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mm Heard there was another winner closer to home ..
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Is the BUFC manager job full- time ?
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mm Heard there was another winner closer to home ..
I got this info from Vanarama North News official website, unless I've misread or misinterpreted it.
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Your right ..Mr Mullen backed Grimsby ..and now Alf
Its on Newsnow which seems good fo Conf news ..
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Top ten could be a tall order. I laughed at someone when he had us 15th on a prediction.... but actually, I couldn't find many teams who I'd back us to beat over a season
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We will finish were we finish, no body can truly predict anything, I don't think it's right to put a team down when we don't even know or have seen the players play yet, we don't even have a full squad, and the signings have not been completed yet.
Let's stop jumping to conclusions and just get behind the AM the players and club, for god sake we are building a new ground this season, that's got to be a positive thing at least.
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are you Adam Murrays dad ? ;)
three signings from a poor gainsborough is not enough to make me part with season ticket money.
hopefully he has something lined up....
tbh signing a keeper is a good move....the last few dabbles and dibbles at the start season haven't been good
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Yes ..I wouldn't buy a season ticket on these signings .
Nice to see Howmany getting more realistic about prospects .
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no body can truly predict anything
So why do we have a Prediction League?
Yes ..I wouldn't buy a season ticket on these signings .
I buy a season ticket to support my club, not the players... at this level, you must know that most of the players signed this summer will not be here in a year's time.
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are you Adam Murrays dad ? ;)
three signings from a poor gainsborough is not enough to make me part with season ticket money.
Willis and Beatson makes two. Who is the third?
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Fairplay P86 .
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Yes ..I wouldn't buy a season ticket on these signings .
Nice to see Howmany getting more realistic about prospects .
I like to think I've always been realistic Ted ;)
what is surprising me is the role reversal in many posters..
a lot of Happy Clappers are now moaners and moaners have become Happy Clappers (sort of)
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are you Adam Murrays dad ? ;)
three signings from a poor gainsborough is not enough to make me part with season ticket money.
Willis and Beatson makes two. Who is the third?
Chapman
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Bit like politics Howmany ..
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Yes ..I wouldn't buy a season ticket on these signings .
Nice to see Howmany getting more realistic about prospects .
I like to think I've always been realistic Ted ;)
what is surprising me is the role reversal in many posters..
a lot of Happy Clappers are now moaners and moaners have become Happy Clappers (sort of)
the thing is, many posters wanted to "Gr-exit", but after the initial "good idea" wore off, are some of these posters now disillusioned with the reality that decision left us with? Is the reality seemingly different to the Greener grass that was promised? Sort of a parallel situation isn't it? (For the record, I was a leave, not a remain)
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Regardless of League posn , lets see how far AM gets in the FA cup ..
I mean if Graham Drury can reach FAC 1 proper !
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are you Adam Murrays dad ? ;)
three signings from a poor gainsborough is not enough to make me part with season ticket money.
hopefully he has something lined up....
tbh signing a keeper is a good move....the last few dabbles and dibbles at the start season haven't been good
No I am not Adam Murray's dad, god knows what that comment means anyway, I support the club, so you will not be parting with your money, your choice.
But I am not going to join the negative gang, we have signed two players from Gainsborough trinity not the whole team, and the ones we have signed have real potential.
You ,me and the rest of the fans don't know who is going to be signed.
But we were poor last season and Jay Rollins is going to be signed by a full-time club,so by your reckoning he must be rubbish too. Hmmmm!!!
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Are the fickle football fan ,were would the game be without us.
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I'm with P86 on this one, I buy a season ticket every year because I am a BUFC supporter. You will never get 100% agreement on a manager or players all you can do as a supporter is support. Some people are very critical of AM in a very subtle way I am sure they wish DG was still here but, he is not.
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Are the fickle football fan ,were would the game be without us.
I'm not a fickle fan chubby , I've supported the Pilgrims 70+years . I shall be renewing my season ticket this week but fully understand why many like Howmanynames are thinking differently . Why commit if you think the product may not be up to the standard of the past few seasons . At present looking at the poor signings he has made in his time here I see little prospect of AM improving his win ratio so far achieved in his managerial career . I can't see the usual uptake in season tickets until a few quality signings are made .
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are you Adam Murrays dad ? ;)
three signings from a poor gainsborough is not enough to make me part with season ticket money.
hopefully he has something lined up....
tbh signing a keeper is a good move....the last few dabbles and dibbles at the start season haven't been good
No I am not Adam Murray's dad, god knows what that comment means anyway, I support the club, so you will not be parting with your money, your choice.
But I am not going to join the negative gang, we have signed two players from Gainsborough trinity not the whole team, and the ones we have signed have real potential.
You ,me and the rest of the fans don't know who is going to be signed.
But we were poor last season and Jay Rollins is going to be signed by a full-time club,so by your reckoning he must be rubbish too. Hmmmm!!!
just leg pulling Chubby.
as for the Rollins comment..not sure where that came from?
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Just getting back on topic (every thread seems to end up with the same debate at the moment :) ) am I right in thinking this play off change hasn't been agreed yet ? My understanding was that every club could vote at the end of season meeting in a few weeks time ?
TEP
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I'm with P86 on this one, I buy a season ticket every year because I am a BUFC supporter. You will never get 1 JB00% agreement on a manager or players all you can do as a supporter is support. Some people are very critical of AM in a very subtle way I am sure they wish DG was still here but, he is not.
Agreed Tash, I support the club first, of course we all want success on the field & getting behind the players & manager when we're rebuilding is only going to help. I renewed my season ticket like others last week. The money in the kitty from season ticket sales may help with the budget for new players?
Yes there is plenty of subtle criticism of AM. Remember there was a "MURRAY OUT" thread running on here after about his first 7 games?? Many are still angry at the nature of DG"s departure & won't move on & fully support the new Manager.
As regards new signings: as others have said how can we compete with these full-time, moneybags outfits? I would point to Macclesfield in the league above to show we can very much do well. They had the Lowest budget in the conference last season. They flirted with the play off places all season, falling away in the last 6 games & ending 9th on 68pts. They got to the Trophy final & the 2nd round of fa cup.
Chorley are the example in our league, they were so close to promotion on an average budget.
Yes we are all waiting for marquee signings. But sometimes it's the ones who come in under the radar that are successful. Dayle Southwell unwanted at Grimsby, Ricky, Zak & Pidge likewise at previous clubs.
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Just getting back on topic (every thread seems to end up with the same debate at the moment :) ) am I right in thinking this play off change hasn't been agreed yet ? My understanding was that every club could vote at the end of season meeting in a few weeks time ?
TEP
Correct. Apparently it's been agreed in principle, and just needs to pass the vote as a formality.
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Very good post champs, can't fault any of it.
Let the big money boys waste there money on showboating players.
Boston needs to concentrate on Boston, bugger the rest.
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Be nice if there is some Euromillions money in the frame .
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Richard Peniket leaving Halifax for "new challenge". 6'3" centre forward, 24yrs old. Highly rated by most Shay fans. Wonder where his heading?
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Richard Peniket leaving Halifax for "new challenge". 6'3" centre forward, 24yrs old. Highly rated by most Shay fans. Wonder where his heading?
I guess his "new challenge" will be to score a lot more goals , 19 goals in 140 games is not an acceptable return for a striker .
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Richard Peniket leaving Halifax for "new challenge". 6'3" centre forward, 24yrs old. Highly rated by most Shay fans. Wonder where his heading?
I guess his "new challenge" will be to score a lot more goals , 19 goals in 140 games is not an acceptable return for a striker .
Fair play GHM, I know shay fans said he was played out wide alot to accommodate Denton, but that goals return ain't good.
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Richard Peniket leaving Halifax for "new challenge". 6'3" centre forward, 24yrs old. Highly rated by most Shay fans. Wonder where his heading?
I guess his "new challenge" will be to score a lot more goals , 19 goals in 140 games is not an acceptable return for a striker .
Fair play GHM, I know shay fans said he was played out wide alot to accommodate Denton, but that goals return ain't good.
he spent the end of the season on the bench with Denton, neither were starting regularly.
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Richard Peniket leaving Halifax for "new challenge". 6'3" centre forward, 24yrs old. Highly rated by most Shay fans. Wonder where his heading?
I guess his "new challenge" will be to score a lot more goals , 19 goals in 140 games is not an acceptable return for a striker .
Fair play GHM, I know shay fans said he was played out wide alot to accommodate Denton, but that goals return ain't good.
he spent the end of the season on the bench with Denton, neither were starting regularly.
He scored Halifax's goal in the play off first leg v Salford. Really surprised at his low career goal tally.
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Dayle Southwell played 45 games for Grimsby(42) and Harrogate (3) and scored 4 goals. He came to us and scored 52 in 74 games.
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and he's only scored 1 in 10 appearances for Wycombe!!
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Richard Peniket signed one year deal at Gateshead.
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Hope we get some more signings this week, I am checking two or three day's to see, I think I am getting OCD condition. 😁
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Hope we get some more signings this week, I am checking two or three day's to see, I think I am getting OCD condition. 😁
No panic yet chubby , but the new men coming in must have a good National North pedigree .
From the top of my head the 11 fit players we have got signed up to present have a aggregate total of NN 110 games between them .
The 6 defenders including goalie Willis have played about 75 games aggregate between them at this level , got to have more experience in defence .
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Kaine Felix & Josh Robinson among a number of players told they will not feature for York next season. Thing is they all have 12mths left on contracts. Both good players we know; but they must be on £5-700 a week, wonder if season long loans we be the option if we were interested?
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Have York still got them on there books champs?
We could do with them both,but with the amount of defenders already signed, I think Robinson would have to up his game to hold down a regular starting place.
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Have York still got them on there books champs?
We could do with them both,but with the amount of defenders already signed, I think Robinson would have to up his game to hold down a regular starting place.
Yes they both signed to York for another year.
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Robinson - another average defender. Must be plenty out there AM could source without reverting to him. For me, he is a bit too hot headed - and doesn't always channel this in the right way. Felix was good when he was with us before and I would welcome him back. Having said that, surely we don't have to keep dipping back into our previous players. I would like to think AM and his team are well connected enough not to have to do this.
TEP
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Pleased to see some experience coming in. For a while, we've been naive in games, although often that exuberance you get with youth, someone eager to show what they can do, is better than a 30-something on a last payday. Delicate balance.
I'm sure the lad from Barnsley wants to show that he can play at a higher level, likewise the older lad from Mansfield will hopefully nurture some of our younger players (Vinno, Liam Adams etc) about in the middle of the park (something useful given he is now also a youth coach!)
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Colby Bishop signed for Leamington.
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Colby Bishop signed for Leamington.
absolutely no loss there. I struggled to see anything positive in his game. Good luck to him, and to AP Leamington.
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Colby Bishop signed for Leamington.
absolutely no loss there. I struggled to see anything positive in his game. Good luck to him, and to AP Leamington.
No connection to Automotive Products since 1988
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Colby Bishop signed for Leamington.
absolutely no loss there. I struggled to see anything positive in his game. Good luck to him, and to AP Leamington.
No connection to Automotive Products since 1988
I'm old school! I often refer to former teams names! e.g. Nuneaton Borough, not Town, etc, etc
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There will be some good games to watch next season in league2 with Lincoln, Grimsby and Notts County all in that league together, will try and get to the County home games against them next season.
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This must be the first season for a while that our home shirt hasn't been changed in design/style. A good deal of fans buy the new style home shirt pre season & this must be worth a good few quid to the club each year.
It seems a strange one keeping the home shirt the same as last season; the club will loose money as fans already have the seat belt on shirt??
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I thought the respective home and away shirts changed every two years. This year it's the turn of the away shirt ?
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The new away shirt is out now
White with grey sleeves
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Please do not forget we still have Harry Vince, newly capped England C International and the club's senior player, next season too!
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Play offs going down to 7th place has now been ratified.
TEP
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We will finish were we finish, no body can truly predict anything, I don't think it's right to put a team down when we don't even know or have seen the players play yet, we don't even have a full squad, and the signings have not been completed yet.
Let's stop jumping to conclusions and just get behind the AM the players and club, for god sake we are building a new ground this season, that's got to be a positive thing at least.
How wrong was I when I wrote this, and what's happened to starting the build of the new stadium this year.
Or have I missed something.
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We will finish were we finish, no body can truly predict anything, I don't think it's right to put a team down when we don't even know or have seen the players play yet, we don't even have a full squad, and the signings have not been completed yet.
Let's stop jumping to conclusions and just get behind the AM the players and club, for god sake we are building a new ground this season, that's got to be a positive thing at least.
How wrong was I when I wrote this, and what's happened to starting the build of the new stadium this year.
Or have I missed something.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn't it? You usually look at things with great positivity and optimism. Even your enthusiasm has waned recently, and a grey cloud hovers over your normally buoyant belief in all things Pilgrim. What a shame we find ourselves in the current predicament, where we seem to be teetering on the dark void that is the Unibond vortex, and a "tasty" Yuletide double header with The Gingerbreads. My big concern is the lack of the new stadium. Nothing built, so no future home. No doubt a huge saving for the Chestnuts if it's not built. Okay, so they say it will be, but will a reduction in available funds mean a reduction in size?, What level football would be played in it? The way things are going, who knows?
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TTT its Gainsboro not gingerbreads in yuletide double header . Impressive win again tonight for blues .
Has Lincolnshires best non-league side done the double on us ? :'(
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TTT its Gainsboro not gingerbreads in yuletide double header . Impressive win again tonight for blues .
Has Lincolnshires best non-league side done the double on us ? :'(
I meant looking forward to next year's double header! Hence The Gingerbreads! It was an unsaid suggestion of relegation.
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Yes TTT I am really struggling to keep my faith with the club, I don't know why DN has not yet given us an update on the stadium situation and the club in general, I have emailed him to express my concern, but he doesn't reply,he usually does.
Who would have thought a local trophy final and an festive derby match would be the highlight of this season.
We are in very worrying time's, perhaps DN feels the same way as us.
Do you think Green would ever come back, if approached and would it make a difference anyway.
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TTT its Gainsboro not gingerbreads in yuletide double header . Impressive win again tonight for blues .
Has Lincolnshires best non-league side done the double on us ? :'(
I meant looking forward to next year's double header! Hence The Gingerbreads! It was an unsaid suggestion of relegation.
See it now .
I was still recovering from the Blues win tonight , not looking forward to this years double header , if AM is still here then the outcome could provoke the KH Amy into action again .
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That result tonight for the now not so looking Tinpots has possibly pushed us into a position of a must win game this weekend to save Murrays job ! Surely even Mr Newton can now see the only way is down if this form continues. It baffles me as to why some long standing fans are buying Murrays excuses, yet dare I say it, had the previous manager or others before him said these same things over and over after the same shambolic run of bad form then one huge call of out would be heard ! I would like to know where they see we're improving ?? Results certainly do not show it. And after the result from tonight it makes our position look even more precarious.
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TTT its Gainsboro not gingerbreads in yuletide double header . Impressive win again tonight for blues .
Has Lincolnshires best non-league side done the double on us ? :'(
I meant looking forward to next year's double header! Hence The Gingerbreads! It was an unsaid suggestion of relegation.
See it now .
I was still recovering from the Blues win tonight , not looking forward to this years double header , if AM is still here then the outcome could provoke the KH Amy into action again .
with only 6 points from the last 30, I'm amazed there hasn't been the proverbial lynch mob out already.
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AFC MAN U have sacked their manger today , more pressure for us !
Even Adam got the "new manager bounce" so presumably their new manger will , lose next to games and we could be 4/5 points adrift of safety .
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[/quote] with only 6 points from the last 30, I'm amazed there hasn't been the proverbial lynch mob out already.
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Me too , seems a general apathy around the club to accept what's happening