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Title: thank goodness that's over
Post by: howmanynames2pick on April 22, 2017, 05:10:10 PM
well done Liam Adams on bringing something different to a one dimensional performance.
Great effort from Jay Rollins.
Hawley on for Hilliard??
Chapman best midfielder in the league??
Broadbent already signed??

Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: lonegunman on April 22, 2017, 05:19:08 PM
Be interested to see who will be on that retained list.
I wonder how many Lincoln players will be looking for new clubs next season.
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: jelangley on April 22, 2017, 05:29:12 PM
I actually didnt think fc fylde were that much better than us, we allowed them too much space and they were clinical, but not as good as i thought they might be.

Good clear out required of dead wood, especially our on loan striker from lincoln who seems to think he knows better than Adam Murray
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: youngchubby69 on April 22, 2017, 06:35:30 PM
Well after that performance,Adams retained list has just got shorter, the difference between them and us is Rowe, as simple as that.
They have the ex - factor striker and we don't.
Anyway well done to Fylde,they have been knocking on the door for a few seasons.
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: Johnny Pilgrim on April 22, 2017, 06:56:14 PM
IMO FCF werent that much better from ourselves...I,for one,expected them to be much better...Rowe was the difference between the two teams today...FCFs second and third goals were both classy,clinical finishes...To be frank,I just couldnt see us scoring today....
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: lonegunman on April 22, 2017, 07:04:48 PM
Rowe is playing 3, if not 4 leagues below his level, you expect him to be good. How many goals has he knocked in, 40+, any team would be top if you had a player who scores that many a season.

We're poor up front, I expect to see a lot of movement in players in the close season.
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: tom and jerry on April 22, 2017, 07:42:02 PM
most posters have a common  theme ie we just lack punch

i didn't think fylde were as good as kiddy but they have the resources to pay people a grand a week which we don't have

we weren't too bad. pen was nailed on. tommo just dived in. waiting to see highlights because the second goal looked 3 or 4 yards off side to me. will stand corrected if wrong of course

third goal was a really good finish too but they've really only had about 5 chances and taken 3 of them. that's the difference. jay had a decent chance from the header but missed a sitter

my long term concern is over our lack of ambition. if chapman is to play we need to play 4 5 1 as he hasn't got the legs for 4 4 2 so we're going to be a 4 5 1 side unless he gets the right people for a 4 3 3

we've got a decent base for a squad. with 3 or 4 more we'll finish top 10 but i think we're miles away from top 5 unless a massive overhaul comes

Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: howmanynames2pick on April 22, 2017, 07:43:31 PM
I wasn't just on about the game I meant the season...
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on April 22, 2017, 07:59:36 PM
Big big clear out. So many average and below average players that we don't need to hang on to.

TEP
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: oxo on April 22, 2017, 08:11:31 PM
Just changing the subject for a moment. May I sincerely thank all those who have responded to my coins in a jam jar fund raiser over just three home games. Quite a few jars filled and handed in plus donations which are very welcome and very generous, I will update you on here when I bank this week, but for such a simple idea I think you will be impressed. Please carry on filling your jars over the close season as I intend to keep this moving as long as it takes. Just a little amusing ditty, A chap came to me and said "I'm sorry but I don't have any jam jars". "I replied that's okay sir". He said "How do you get rid of them?"  You guessed it he honestly thought I was collecting empty jam jars, It could only happen in Boston.     
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: Winging It on April 22, 2017, 08:12:23 PM
Am pleased this season is over, we couldn't score in a brothel for most of it !  Ok, so we do score the odd goal, but we seem to be a bit one dimensional this season.  Sure we have tightened things up at the back, well, until letting three in today that is. But we need an awful lot more to be competitive next season, otherwise we'll be looking at mid table again.  I cannot deny that the new manager has had to work with who he could get in halfway through a season, but some of his signings so far have seemed not up to the required standard to be competing for the play offs next season. As always though, i am willing to give the manager all the time throughout the summer to get the right players in, and i trust he will. We all have to move on from the early times of this season now, forget the past, regroup, have a good summer, and hopefully get a good pre-season run and hit the ground running come the start of what could be an exciting season. Lets hope we can even win a few cup games, wouldn't that be nice !
UNITED NOT DIVIDED  :)
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: oxo on April 22, 2017, 09:48:28 PM
What are you talking about? The season is not over for us devoted fans who will be at next weeks game at Curzon Ashton, room on the bus if you want to come.   UTP.
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: howmanynames2pick on April 22, 2017, 10:45:38 PM
you are a credit Mel and I admire your devotion....for me a bit of the magic has gone. The knobhead army...the bad and devisive feeling and the dull fare on offer (a problem with the pitch I believe was said at the forum)....

maybe a few weeks away from it and the promise of some exciting talent may get me to renew my ticket.
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: Shrimperpilgrim on April 22, 2017, 10:49:05 PM
A shocking season with 2 managers that are worlds apart in setting a team out but weirdly somehow a combination of the 2 styles could be the happy medium!!!
Worryingly tho many players that were obviously not up to the standard in pre season and then more substandard signings by the new gaffer.
So with Mr Murray constantly suggesting promotion is his aim for next season he must have one hell of a lot of contacts or maybe a big wallet to tempt them along.
The current crop will only bring another season of mid table struggle.
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: lonegunman on April 23, 2017, 06:12:04 AM
I missed who got MOM yesterday, i'd have voted for Nat Brown, I thought he had a tremendous game yesterday. 
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: The Third Twin on April 23, 2017, 10:33:37 AM
I missed who got MOM yesterday, i'd have voted for Nat Brown, I thought he had a tremendous game yesterday.
is was Nat Brown.
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: lonegunman on April 23, 2017, 11:27:37 AM
Pleased for him.
He's had a stop start season, but when he's in the side we look a lot better.
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: joshb on April 23, 2017, 11:43:53 AM
I was worried when Brown was in the team as they'd run rings around him but fair play to him and the defence, I thought generally we limited them.

Unfortunately they scored every time they had a decent sight of goal! And when we made a good chance of our own we didn't take it, albeit at 0-3 it wouldn't have made much difference.

Excellent home atmosphere during and after the game. That's what it should be like every game, not making YS an easy place to go for visitors, as AM referred to, we want them beaten by the time they get off the bus
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: Pilgrim86 on April 23, 2017, 11:48:44 AM
A shocking season with 2 managers that are worlds apart in setting a team out but weirdly somehow a combination of the 2 styles could be the happy medium!!!

The attacking play of DG, and the solid defence of AM and we'd win the league by February
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: howmanynames2pick on April 23, 2017, 03:07:51 PM
are you suggesting a dream ticket  P86??  :)
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: youngchubby69 on April 23, 2017, 04:57:58 PM
After reading the comments on here, I don't understand what all the negativity is about, we didn't get relegated, we have stopped conceding bucket loads of goals and of late had some decent performances against the top five.
I just wish people would stop slating Chapman, what has he done wrong, he can cross the ball well, score penalties,pick a pass and has a long throw,not to mention that he actually talks and organises the players and talks to the ref, he is no Pogba but he his a good influence on this team.
Adam will bring in much better players next season, the budget is his to spend next seasonr, after all I wouldn't think there wasn't much left to spend after DG had spent his bit.
So come on chin up everyone and lets really get behind him and the players old and new.
And a big thankyou to OXO for his efforts in raising money,good on you 😊.
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: yam man on April 23, 2017, 07:09:12 PM
waiting to see highlights because the second goal looked 3 or 4 yards off side to me. will stand corrected if wrong of course

Good luck with that! Need a few more cameras.
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: howmanynames2pick on April 23, 2017, 07:43:40 PM
After reading the comments on here, I don't understand what all the negativity is about, we didn't get relegated, we have stopped conceding bucket loads of goals and of late had some decent performances against the top five.
I just wish people would stop slating Chapman, what has he done wrong, he can cross the ball well, score penalties,pick a pass and has a long throw,not to mention that he actually talks and organises the players and talks to the ref, he is no Pogba but he his a good influence on this team.
Adam will bring in much better players next season, the budget is his to spend next seasonr, after all I wouldn't think there wasn't much left to spend after DG had spent his bit.
So come on chin up everyone and lets really get behind him and the players old and new.
And a big thankyou to OXO for his efforts in raising money,good on you 😊.

You are either AM or AC's  dad ;)
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: green hats mate on April 23, 2017, 07:57:44 PM
After reading the comments on here, I don't understand what all the negativity is about, we didn't get relegated, we have stopped conceding bucket loads of goals and of late had some decent performances against the top five.
I just wish people would stop slating Chapman, what has he done wrong, he can cross the ball well, score penalties,pick a pass and has a long throw,not to mention that he actually talks and organises the players and talks to the ref, he is no Pogba but he his a good influence on this team.
Adam will bring in much better players next season, the budget is his to spend next seasonr, after all I wouldn't think there wasn't much left to spend after DG had spent his bit.
So come on chin up everyone and lets really get behind him and the players old and new.
And a big thankyou to OXO for his efforts in raising money,good on you 😊.

You are either AM or AC's  dad ;)

Adam Chapmans dad more likely !!!!      How many goals have come from his throw-ins and corners ?     Love to know his % rate on misplaced passes .

Give us a skipper who leads by example ,    Gregg Smith is the man .
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: youngchubby69 on April 23, 2017, 08:28:08 PM
His throwing's are more productive than you throwing your insults at me GHM.
You slag of everything I say on here, what's your problem with me?
Another one who hide's behind a keyboard.
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: youngchubby69 on April 23, 2017, 08:39:44 PM
GHM is Gregg supposed to captain a team when he is injured,please explain how that works, have you gave your thoughts on team selection to Adam personally, I am sure he would love to hear them.
Who really cares about pointless % they mean nothing, we had one the worst defensive % under DG but still made the play offs, so they mean nothing.
No doubt I will get a clever sarcastic,insulting reply from the superior GHM
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: green hats mate on April 23, 2017, 09:25:30 PM
His throwing's are more productive than you throwing your insults at me GHM.
You slag of everything I say on here, what's your problem with me?
Another one who hide's behind a keyboard.

I am doing what most on here do Chubby ,  expressing an opinion .   In fact I think it is safe to say I do not comment on players performances as often as you , therefore I will use the forum to make comments as you do .   I think you take some comments out of context ,  nothing in my comments aimed at you ,  they were my views on the player .
My opinion  is Chapman will not be the best mid-fielder in the CN as AM predicts  ,  his throws and corners are non- productive , plus he puts too many passes astray . A high percentage of successful passes is a key asset of a mid-fielder .

I did manage to figure out Gregg can.t skipper the side when injured  ::)
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: howmanynames2pick on April 23, 2017, 09:34:47 PM
one thing I do like about Chapman is that he has a lot to say to other players...we have been lacking a leader since GS got injures. however  his talent with his feet has left me a bit cold.....
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: Pilgrim86 on April 23, 2017, 09:37:49 PM
GHM is Gregg supposed to captain a team when he is injured,please explain how that works

Gregg is club captain, and represents the club at a few off-pitch functions, including the younger kids teams. He is a fantastic role model, and Chapman is captain only because Gregg is injured.

IMO a fit Grant Roberts is better than Chapman - does everything Chapman does, including long throws and set pieces, but can also whack one in from 30 yards.
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: youngchubby69 on April 23, 2017, 09:38:26 PM
Point taken GHM, maybe I am just a sensitive type of chap.
So apologies if I sound off on one, this has certainly been a season like no other, perhaps it will be a catalyst for a better season, and perhaps we both have something in common in "seeing is believing".
I do look at next season with much optimism and a sort of excitement. I think!!
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: Champs next year on April 23, 2017, 10:08:20 PM
one thing I do like about Chapman is that he has a lot to say to other players...we have been lacking a leader since GS got injures. however  his talent with his feet has left me a bit cold.....

Absolutely right let's remember before Chapman arrived we were leaderless. Gregg had just got injured & we were lacking a talker & organiser. He's sat in front of the back four & directed operations it's a vital but unspectacular role & it was exactly what we were lacking before he came.

As regards not maximising on his long throws & corners his deliveries are excellent & it's up to others to gamble & get on the end of them. Like Nat Brown did V Salford. Wouldn't mind seeing how many Pidge would bang in from his deliveries!!
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: father Ted on April 23, 2017, 11:55:42 PM
  Well A M said at Forum he wants to sign most/all new players just into close season .
    Should be interesting ..
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: Artemis on April 24, 2017, 11:09:57 AM
Hillary had a much better game than Chapman and he is a similar player to Ian Ross  - unlike a lot of players he thinks before he passes the ball and most of his passes reach their target.   So was bemused when he was replaced by Hawley instead of Chapman.  Best midfielder in the league?   No way.
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: tom and jerry on April 24, 2017, 11:43:03 AM
i like chapman as a leader. his communication is good and he helps the other players to keep their shape which is the benefit of playing at a higher level i guess

my concern is more around the formation we play. unless we are chasing a game we seem to be set up 4 5 1 which is fairly negative. i don't feel chapman has the legs to play in the middle of midfield in a 4 4 2 which, in my view somewhat limits our formation options

that said, 4 5 1 can easily become 4 3 3. for example if we had say mani with rollins and briscoe either side of him that's fairly attacking so it is possible to be adventurous if he wants to be

chapman looks like being the first name on the team sheet if fit so we have to live with this and hope AM gets the right players to go 4 3 3 and improve our 'goals for' column. defensively we have very few issues. much better than it was so let's see what the recruitment process brings

i think we have much to look forward to. cautiously optimistic
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: green hats mate on April 24, 2017, 02:31:35 PM
Hillary had a much better game than Chapman and he is a similar player to Ian Ross  - unlike a lot of players he thinks before he passes the ball and most of his passes reach their target.   So was bemused when he was replaced by Hawley instead of Chapman.  Best midfielder in the league?   No way.

A shame Hilliard is inconsistent ,  on his day he makes far more impact than any of our other midfielders . 
Most games with Gregg out he has look more likely to score than any forward apart from Jay .
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: oxo on April 24, 2017, 03:07:44 PM
Hillary had a much better game than Chapman and he is a similar player to Ian Ross  - unlike a lot of players he thinks before he passes the ball and most of his passes reach their target.   So was bemused when he was replaced by Hawley instead of Chapman.  Best midfielder in the league?   No way.

A shame Hilliard is inconsistent ,  on his day he makes far more impact than any of our other midfielders .


Spot on Pete.
Most games with Gregg out he has look more likely to score than any forward apart from Jay .
Title: Re: thank goodness that's over
Post by: The Third Twin on April 24, 2017, 07:20:59 PM
Hillary had a much better game than Chapman and he is a similar player to Ian Ross  - unlike a lot of players he thinks before he passes the ball and most of his passes reach their target.   So was bemused when he was replaced by Hawley instead of Chapman.  Best midfielder in the league?   No way.

A shame Hilliard is inconsistent ,  on his day he makes far more impact than any of our other midfielders . 
Most games with Gregg out he has look more likely to score than any forward apart from Jay .
if Hilliard was more consistent he'd be playing at a higher level. No doubt he's talented, but lack of consistency is why we have him, and not higher up. He certainly has an eye for goal, and he can pick a pass.