Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: joshb on March 20, 2017, 08:24:55 PM
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Anyone else going?
Another chance to back up a solid result on the road, where results have tended to come in recent weeks with only an unlucky defeat at Tamworth since the debacles at Fylde and Witton.
Alfreton have an unlucky knack against us of losing by a single goal in about the last 5 meetings, hopefully that carries on tomorrow.
Assume we'll go for the same team as Saturday- there didn't seem to be any injuries for once.
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Anyone else going?
Another chance to back up a solid result on the road, where results have tended to come in recent weeks with only an unlucky defeat at Tamworth since the debacles at Fylde and Witton.
Alfreton have an unlucky knack against us of losing by a single goal in about the last 5 meetings, hopefully that carries on tomorrow.
Assume we'll go for the same team as Saturday- there didn't seem to be any injuries for once.
except Harry Vince?
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Anyone else going?
Another chance to back up a solid result on the road, where results have tended to come in recent weeks with only an unlucky defeat at Tamworth since the debacles at Fylde and Witton.
Alfreton have an unlucky knack against us of losing by a single goal in about the last 5 meetings, hopefully that carries on tomorrow.
Assume we'll go for the same team as Saturday- there didn't seem to be any injuries for once.
Aye, I'm off. Been so busy recently haven't made many games, and there's a good chance this will be my final game of the season.
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Yep, I'll be there. One of a few away games I can get to after work!
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More comments on the match on the Mansfield forum than on here , see the Louis Briscoe thread . Comments seem to agree Boston lacked penetration otherwise they would have won .
Mansfield fans speak well about Briscoe time at the club , but commented against Alfreton he was ineffective along with Chapman ,
seemed it was expected of Chapman based on his time at Mansfield .
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we do lack a 20 goal forward but we also lack a midfielder who can 'pick a pass'
chapman can pass but plays very deep. hilliard for me should be the one pulling the strings but he has one good game in 4 and in the other 3 he's ineffective and doesn't put himself about enough
vince will be an excellent long term signing. great to see him commit. with greg we'd be 6 or 8 points better off than we have been since his break so all is not lost and we have much to enthuse about long term i think
the back 5 are pretty solid. since AM came we've kept 3 clean sheets in 15, let one goal in 8 times, 2 and 3 twice each so in 11 of 15 we've let 1 or less in which is much improved. this gives us a sound base to work with. add a striker (who we already have in greg) and a schemer and we'll do well
onward and upward
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is this the most ignored game in the history of Patter??
no one calling for Murray head.
no one saying it was all Greenes rubbish players..
must be all excited about seeing the class of 92 on Saturday
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is this the most ignored game in the history of Patter??
no one calling for Murray head.
no one saying it was all Greenes rubbish players..
must be all excited about seeing the class of 92 on Saturday
I was thinking the same yesterday, not many comments on either fans forum pages. After yet another lackluster performance in front of goal, although we played ok..ish, we see yet another loss against of form book. If this run of form was under the previous manager, there would have been a tirade of comments so i cannot understand just what the difference is here. Points is what it is all about, looking like we're improving is not getting us points. I don't think most of us care what the old manager is tweeting, but it seems to some, its the bread and butter of being a Pilgrim. Isn't this where the original trouble all started after all ?!! I fear that this is what is dragging this clubs support downwards, i have never previously felt that we had such a spit bunch of supporters as i do now. We either need to move forward, forget what the past was, and focus solely on one thing, league survival. Poor players have moved on, a manager has moved on, ...now we ALL need to move on. UTP
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Agree. It's frustrating to watch and looks crap when we let one in and rarely threaten but we're not leaking chances for fun and not conceding hatfuls (let's see against $alford though....)
What concerns me is no Plan B if we go behind and no midfield/striker combination where we can pick a pass or play a telling ball and s striker on the end of it or even someone to make something from nothing.
Had we had a Miller or Southwell we'd have got something out of it but if we'd also had a midfielder who could create a couple of chances alongside that, we'd have won convincingly.
So much of the ball yet so little real chances?
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Agree. It's frustrating to watch and looks crap when we let one in and rarely threaten but we're not leaking chances for fun and not conceding hatfuls (let's see against $alford though....)
What concerns me is no Plan B if we go behind and no midfield/striker combination where we can pick a pass or play a telling ball and s striker on the end of it or even someone to make something from nothing.
Had we had a Miller or Southwell we'd have got something out of it but if we'd also had a midfielder who could create a couple of chances alongside that, we'd have won convincingly.
So much of the ball yet so little real chances?
We were warned by Stag fans that we must get used to goalless games from our team on a regular basis .
You point out AM biggest challenge josh , DG brought in Miller , Southwell and Gregg Smith , now if AM can secure a striker of their calibre on their pay scale gaols will come .
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Gregg Smith always gives it his all. His attitude is superb, but he is not in the same league as Miller or Southwell. He is a target man who needs a Ricky or Dayle alongside him.
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Gregg Smith always gives it his all. His attitude is superb, but he is not in the same league as Miller or Southwell. He is a target man who needs a Ricky or Dayle alongside him.
agreed, the combination could be lethal, but you're right, he does need a 20 a season man alongside.
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Yes definitely, a 20+ a season striker alongside Gregg, who would chip in with 10-15 himself would be excellent!
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Yes definitely, a 20+ a season striker alongside Gregg, who would chip in with 10-15 himself would be excellent!
I wish I could say Jay Rolllins, but as good as he can be, he's not an up top forward for me. Are there any forwards that have played down here this year for other teams that would fit the role? What about Halifax's Adam Morgan, who stood out for me when he played for Curzon earlier this year? Or maybe the much travelled Liam Hearn, to name another?
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hearn is a poacher. proven scorer. but his injury record is dreadful
morgan, for a relative youngster, has had lots of clubs. never a good sign. can be effective on his day in the same way hilliard can (albeit in a different position)
neither diesurewe or bishop are the answer. smith and rollins as a front two i think would be an excellent combination
suspect that within a few weeks we'll know which of the current squad will be retained
we have vince broadhead and smith on contracts until the end of 2018
if it was up to me i'd retain batchelor, rollins, thomas, yeomans, gordon, briscoe, robinson (if york let him go), durrant, chapman and maybe roberts depending on how his injury works out
that gives us 12 or 13 which is a decent nucleus. 8 or 9 places to fill on top of that which shouldn't be difficult. maybe be harsh on hilliard but he doesn't deliver often enough for me and needs to work harder. haven't been impressed with simmons either TBH
releasing the likes of fairhurst, brown, hilliard, clarke, pepe, bishop, maguire, burgess, marshall etc frees up quite a bit of budget
if burton don't retain gatter i'd look at him if step 2 football is to be a permanent option for him as he shows promise
would be interested in the views of others on the above
keep the faith chaps and ladies, we must all pull together and try to avoid negativity but i don't think good times are far away. we have a good manager and coaching staff and a solid board
onward and upward eh?
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Do agree with most of that, but for me Hilliard is someone I would keep, he can and does score goals.
Pepe should be given a chance to prove himself, looked a decent player before his injury.
Bishop is a worker and run's and chases all day long, and you don't find many like him.
The rest should be given the chance to prove themselves to the end of the season.
Roberts is another I would keep,we know what he can do and brings to the team.
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Bishop is a worker and run's and chases all day long, and you don't find many like him.
Talking about Colby Bishop? You sure? Looks off the pace to me
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Bishop is a worker and run's and chases all day long, and you don't find many like him.
Talking about Colby Bishop? You sure? Looks off the pace to me
No goals , little contribution .
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hilliard on his day is just the player we need. for me he just isn;t consistent enough. one decent game in 4 isn't good enough but the lad can play. no doubt about that. just needs to work harder when he hasn't got the ball and i'm not convinced he has that work ethic in his make up. hope he proves me wrong as he's got ability
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Agree on Hilliard posts. He's the most skillful player at the club. If you look at his goalscoring record for previous clubs it's excellent for a midfielder. One season for st. neots he scored 24. For me if you bang in 24 goals in a season your more likely a forward than a midfielder.
Why not push him up front to play like an inside forward alongside Colby or Mani? He can take the ball into his feet, turn & beat a man left or right & see the pass if it's on to his strike partner. Most importantly for a forward he scores from anywhere. He has scored some spectacular goals for us & also some tap ins.
I think his ability is wasted in an industrious midfield role, he has much too offer pushed further forward. If he gets his share of goals from midfield how many would he get in a more advanced role?