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Title: Lynn wound up...
Post by: woad_pilgrim on November 25, 2009, 11:19:57 AM
According to their forum (http://www.thelinnets.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=52723.0)

Hope they get something sorted as it's not good to see any clubs struggling. Also means we'll lose our Boxing Day and Easter Monday fixtures.

Makes me appreciate more every day what a fantastic board we have here now.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Pilgrims67 on November 25, 2009, 07:14:38 PM
Totally right.
Supporters suffer the short comings of poor leadership at the helm

we are VERY lucky too have such a fantastic team running the club
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Pride of Bostonshire on November 26, 2009, 11:53:02 AM
http://www.twohundredpercent.net/?p=2907 (http://www.twohundredpercent.net/?p=2907)

A nice little article, briefly summing up the goings on down there.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: oxo on November 26, 2009, 01:51:51 PM
It has been sugested on here that we should hold a bucket collection or play a friendly with Kings Lynn with all gate receipts going to them in their hour of need. These are noble sugestions but I tend to agree with PILGRIMS 67 that 65k may only be the tip of the iceberg.
Yes we should help any club at our level who are in danger but only if that money will not just be a delay of the inevitable.
At this moment in time if there are to be bucket collections or other methods of raising money it should be for BUFC, this is not being selfish it is being realistic. The facts as I understand them are that Kings Lynn require 65k to have a chance of survival yet it is easy to forget that only a few short weeks ago BUFC were landed with an unexpected rise on the ground rent and a loan to repay that was taken out by our previous owners which amounted to more than twice the 65k owed by Kings Lynn. As we know David Newton almost walked away over this but thank God we still have him. David and Neil will not say it but Iwill, not only do they deserve our heartfelt thanks for saving us but they also deserve every supporter to make greater efforts to raise funds to offset these unexpected setbacks and assist in seeing their excellent vision of a club at the centre of the community.
I make no apologies for saying look at our club first and foremost, only when other clubs have a board with the merits of our own should we look to give money.
I still wish the supporters of Kings Lynn all the very best and hope that they can somehow sort out the mess. 
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: green hats mate on November 26, 2009, 02:46:51 PM
You are right Oxo . If we had collected 20k in the bucket in the Lavaflow days would it have prolonged the life of the club, ? no . Nor will it at Lynn at the moment. Lets hope they can rid themselves of this present board then we can think about giving help.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Bostonshire on November 26, 2009, 04:12:20 PM
I think from reading the papers from that direction today,going throu the countless sites of different news on the issue,reading the forum and listening to the radio, It seems that £67k will overturn the wining up order but will only by them time, the estermated figure to get kings lynn fc running smooth and the minimum that is needed to get propper payment plans in place is around 150k(this will not clear the dept thou so they must be more in the mill than even the fans now) althou at the mo it seems any body at the club must have a gagging order or summit.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Baker Boy on November 26, 2009, 04:25:55 PM
I'm a Lynn fan living and working in Boston. At the moment I am totally gutted. I've waited 10 years to stand at York Street and cheer my team on, instead of standing there pledging a bit of support for you on the odd occasion. Now to get to within a month and lose it.
 If there is anything you can do to help it would be grateful.  Sorry I am begging a bit.

http://www.thelinnets.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=52782.0

All the best for your season, and at the moment i would love Milly to score a goal against us Easter Monday to take you up. Least Lynn would still be here!
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: green hats mate on November 26, 2009, 04:36:46 PM
Sorry Baker Boy but there is nothing that can be done to help until the present regime have gone .
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Baker Boy on November 26, 2009, 04:40:20 PM
I echo your feelings and think that you were very very lucky to get rid of a certain person linked to both clubs. He managed to do to us what he didnt to you.
O really hope we can stay somehow, because as well as us still playing football, i know how handy the revenue from Boxing Day would be to you. 
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Bostonshire on November 26, 2009, 05:00:20 PM
Just makes me think why wasnt we doomed with a unpaid tax bill of over 1 mil for around 5 years(i may be thick but can someone help me work out how the hell we was given so long)
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Shodfried on November 26, 2009, 06:35:16 PM
I didn't see too many clubs rallying round Boston when we needed help.......

Fine sentiment people but charity begins at home. I won't be chucking anything in anyones bucket, I remember how we were treated by other clubs when we needed help.

Now don't forget to bid on that shirt on e-bay to help BOSTON UNITED.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Seenbetter on November 26, 2009, 07:08:31 PM
Got to agree with oxo. Not heartless, just practical. Very sad about KL though.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: green hats mate on November 26, 2009, 07:57:21 PM
As you say Shodfried nobody nobody gave us help , but then again they were like you and I and could see what a load of rabble was running the club. With that lot you and I would,nt put anything in the bucket (well i hope you would,nt). for BUFC.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Baker Boy on November 26, 2009, 08:35:56 PM
I get your point guys, and yes i did feel as you did about the previous regime at york street. I am sorry if i caused you all offence, just desperate to do anything to get us out of trouble.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Bostonshire on November 26, 2009, 08:40:13 PM
I get your point guys, and yes i did feel as you did about the previous regime at york street. I am sorry if i caused you all offence, just desperate to do anything to get us out of trouble.

I dont think you have caused any offence, were just as sad as you about klfc, i think the point that as came up is we are still fighting for our own club and arnt in any possission to be able to help.

Im sure people would if they could as bufc fans are also aware on the impact the loss of the kings lynn game will have on our club
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Baker Boy on November 26, 2009, 08:53:39 PM
Thanks Bostonshire, i do a little bit for you, putting the odd change into the pot at work. Never know we still might be at York Street on Boxing Day, if we are i'll love every minute of it. Guess the difference between both our problems, is that you had time, not just 7 days, to come up with solutions. Thanks again for your support, lets hope get Boxing Day here we can repay it for you all.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: woad_pilgrim on November 26, 2009, 09:11:39 PM
Bostonshire and oxo are right, we have to look after our own club as we are far from safe. I think most feel for the Lynn fans and if we where in a better position I personally would have no qualms about helping out but at the mo any spare money I have (which isn't a lot) goes into Boston United. Saying that I'd probably still throw a few quid in as a 1 off  :-\

To the people who say they didn't help us so why should we them? Maybe 2 wrongs don't make a right, and if you did help despite them not doing likewise would make you the better person. Seems some people are very bitter, at some stage it needs to be let go else it eats away at you.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: father Ted on November 26, 2009, 09:40:48 PM
 Agreed w_p .. it's a bit of  a tough time to be asking for money .
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on November 26, 2009, 09:42:44 PM
is that you had time, not just 7 days, to come up with solutions.

not strictly true, don't think the Chestnuts had even 7 days, I remember the radio show where they announced we had been saved, I truely thought we were gone and that I'd be a football fan without a club come August.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: woad_pilgrim on November 26, 2009, 09:48:06 PM
is that you had time, not just 7 days, to come up with solutions.

not strictly true, don't think the Chestnuts had even 7 days, I remember the radio show where they announced we had been saved, I truely thought we were gone and that I'd be a football fan without a club come August.

Yeah remember it well, on the Sunday (fathers day) there was the appeal from Barry Pierpoint and on the Tuesday it was announced Chestnut Homes where taking over, it was also said the club was a few days from going bust.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: les on November 26, 2009, 10:02:22 PM
Not quite true about the seven days.
Handley had already got them a six week extension on the origional order and they did not put up any offer to the taxman or defence to the winding up order.
Whatever solution they try to come up with now, they could have tried to do during the six weeks, rather than apparently telling everyone they had the matter in hand.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: bb1 on November 26, 2009, 11:35:03 PM
Don't be to harsh on other clubs not helping us as when the bucket went round FCUM through a fair few quid in and were very sympathetic to our plight as a one off i would throw two or three quid in if only to see what would have been a good derby
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Bostonshire on November 27, 2009, 12:17:10 AM
is that you had time, not just 7 days, to come up with solutions.

not strictly true, don't think the Chestnuts had even 7 days, I remember the radio show where they announced we had been saved, I truely thought we were gone and that I'd be a football fan without a club come August.

It was hours not days when we were plucked from the fires of football hell. god bless the chestnut duo
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: leicester pilgrim on November 27, 2009, 06:38:47 AM

As a result of a busy period at work I haven't been able to follow the King's Lynn story as closely as I'd like to, and am not too well "read up" on the subject. I think the sentiments of other supporters are about right, when they say that we need to look after our own club first and foremost.

But two hypothetical questions are springing to my mind:

(1) Would King's Lynn be any better off financially if they didn't have to fund the upkeep of their Walks Stadium?

and

(2) Would there ever be a case for King's Lynn becoming a tenant at York Street, playing their matches on either alternate Saturdays to Boston or Sundays and making a contribution towards Boston's own spiralling rent? This would presumably allow for Boston's own playing budget to be increased.

Controversial, I know, but a Lynn move to Boston wouldn't really take them any further from home than (say) Worksop playing at Hucknall and Ilkeston. Some pitches do stand up to having two home sides play there - look at Gigg Lane. And if any Unibond pitch can stand up to the rigours of an extra set of games then I'm confident it would be York Street.

Views?

Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on November 27, 2009, 07:54:12 AM
I'm not 100% on it, but I don't think the ground is the issue. I'm fairly certain if they carried on it would be at The Walks.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: O CHO MEALLT on November 27, 2009, 11:08:48 AM
I get your point guys, and yes i did feel as you did about the previous regime at york street. I am sorry if i caused you all offence, just desperate to do anything to get us out of trouble.
No offence taken Baker boy.I do agree with others though,that it would be wrong to throw money at the existing regime at Lynn.It would only delay what looks like the inevitable when the others creditors come out of the woodwork.I understand why the Lynn fans would want to retain their current league status,but I think you would get a lot more help and sympathy if you were talking about a reformed Lynn run by the fans,even if that had to be at Ridgeons League level.Which ever way you go,whatever happens,i feel for those who really matter-the fans,and wish you all the luck in the world.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: green hats mate on November 27, 2009, 11:27:23 AM
The long term solution for Lynn is for the club to fold next week . This gives the likes of KEN KLFC  ample time to reform and get tenantcy of the Walks and membership of the Ridgeons League , ready to kick off next season . In 2/3 seasons time you may be back at step 3 level and dept free,  If any of the people involved now some how manage "to pull it of "and "save" the club it will only delay the inevitable.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: green hats mate on November 27, 2009, 11:51:55 AM
Just been on" Todays Lynn news "thread on the Lynn forum . Seems Bobbins , Handley and Mr Chinn all claim to have the cash to pay the taxman but for various reasons are not stumping up. Seem they all want to talk to the council.  I can see a Laverflow mark 2 here and them trying as Laverflow did to wrongly make the council the scapegoat for the mess they will leave the club in.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Baker Boy on November 27, 2009, 01:06:34 PM
Thanks for your messages, sorry if i got it wrong about being saved, but i heard for a long time about Boston struggling, where as we was told everything was fine and sorted up until last weekend when we were hinted at it not being good news. Thats the comparison I was making. Green Hat, me and my boss was saying exactly the same thing this morning, comparing Lynns woes to yours, really hope things work out for you at the end of the season, and if you are succesful in promotion someone up high realises that you aren't anywhere near the label you club once had. All The Best!
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: father Ted on November 27, 2009, 01:56:12 PM
Re 'groundshare ' .. seeing klfc appear to pay a 'peppercorn'  rent and we pay an upwardly mobile rent to the Malks ..
  It' ll be more a  case of us sharing with them !
    And maybe a couple of their star players could join us ..
   
 
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Lord Cutler Knobhead on November 27, 2009, 07:05:58 PM
    And maybe a couple of their star players could join us ..

We don't do 'star' players, just willing to win players this season.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: John C on November 28, 2009, 12:21:06 AM
Its been said before on other threads, but all of this makes me realise we have the best board you could possibly have. And whilst I've been in the pub since 7.45, that's not the beer talking...
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Pilgrims67 on December 01, 2009, 10:21:41 PM
Looks like mr chinn is going to save the day! Is that a blessing? I note he is effectively lending them £300k. All sounds ominous on a club that has no assets mmmm all sounds familiar
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: green hats mate on December 02, 2009, 12:31:02 PM
Great news (if it happens) we shall get the Boxing day derby. Bad news for Lynns long term future , plenty of cash there to entice Evans in.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Baker Boy on December 03, 2009, 12:39:56 PM
Agreed about Mr Chinn, and the worries over Mr Evans. Honestly dont believe Chinn will come through tho.
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: BU on the up on December 03, 2009, 02:51:36 PM
    And maybe a couple of their star players could join us ..

We don't do 'star' players, just willing to win players this season.

I'd be surprised if any of their players would get in our side the way we are playing at the mo.
I don't see how the FA can just sit back and not really help the struggling sides out - raises questions over the distribution of money through the leagues in English football 
Title: Re: Lynn wound up...
Post by: Seenbetter on December 03, 2009, 04:52:18 PM
I don't really think that the fa give a rats arse about the lower leagues.