Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: jelangley on February 25, 2017, 05:15:27 PM
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Dire, dross, and have got to say where was murray? for a manager whos team was being badly beaten found it strange he never got out of his dug out once.in the 2nd half to shout instructions? dont get me started on Karl Hawley...
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No. Just no.
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i wish i could agree, but honestly, he didnt get out of his dugout once in the 2nd half which is very suprising
, a manager needs to be pushing his team.all the way.
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No not out,lets not start with that again, judge him on next season.
I do agree that he did not get out of the dug out much, he really does have to stop sulking over the pitch though, its the same playing surface for us and our opponents.
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judge him on next season
Which division will we be in?
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Maybe Murray was like the rest of us and thought wtf? Defender calls out his ball and then promptly tamely heads it to the only forward player with 30 yards. It has now proved that half this squad (at least) will be moved on. Batchelor looks decent but needs help. As for Clarke, why does he insist on letting the ball roll past him so he can try and spin and get away? It only works once then the opposition are aware of it and snatch it back everytime after that. Lewis put some life into it once he came on but again we had numerous shooting opportunities but insisted on passing it wide for a cross that we hardly won. First 20 minutes could not fault them but as soon as Jay went off we seemed bereft of ideas.
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judge him on next season
Which division will we be in?
This league of course,we are 7 points above and yes above the relegation zone.
Doom and gloom I don't do.
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I don't do doom and gloom either but I am a little concerned. 42 points should thankfully be be enough to stay in the league as Alty, Staylbridge and Worcester are poor. So 7 more points needed, Alty and Telford, maybe Gloucester at home, Worcester, Alfreton and Curzon away are games we should get something from but I can't see anything other than defeats coming at the other 5 games. Still some work to do.
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Ridiculous thread
Although I'm happy to admit Harrogate and yesterday were as bad as anything I've seen in years.
Are we really playing at home when we use 48 players a season? There's no routine, no continuity and the players are effectively strangers to eachother.
We need to make sure nothing stupid happens this season, maybe take a handful of players forwards then give the group the whole season to get to know eachother and play like a team again.
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Why is it ridiculous Josh?
He has had 11 games..brought in players who are no better than the ones shipped (Colley excepted)
The standard of play is dire...it's all about winning I know but it would be nice to be entertained.
I'm sure there were clamouring for Graham Drurys head well before 11 games.
Has Adam Chapman improved the team? Apart from long throws not sure what he gives us.....is he better than Chippy?..
The two full backs brought in...better than Thomas and Gordon?
On a slightly different note....changing dug outs....I can see warming up in front of town end might be an advantage....however....kicking towards York street in the 2nd half was a bit of an advantage as the sun was setting over town end and away keeper gets sun in his eyes...
Who would be a manager ? :)
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Ridiculous thread
Although I'm happy to admit Harrogate and yesterday were as bad as anything I've seen in years.
Are we really playing at home when we use 48 players a season? There's no routine, no continuity and the players are effectively strangers to eachother.
We need to make sure nothing stupid happens this season, maybe take a handful of players forwards then give the group the whole season to get to know eachother and play like a team again.
I get your point josh but you will find 40+ players a season is about normal for our league , with having 7/8 long term injuries all season I suppose that 48 roughly translates into about 40 .
When looking at what players to take forward for next season I cannot see any of AM new signings which we would want to keep . Agree about constant team chances , this has escalated under AM , got to the stage where we play mid-fielders at fullback etc , knee jerk reactions ?
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I don't do doom and gloom either but I am a little concerned. 42 points should thankfully be be enough to stay in the league as Alty, Staylbridge and Worcester are poor. So 7 more points needed, Alty and Telford, maybe Gloucester at home, Worcester, Alfreton and Curzon away are games we should get something from but I can't see anything other than defeats coming at the other 5 games. Still some work to do.
You'll not need 42 this season Worcester have no team they'll be lucky to get 1 point. And how the other 2 will get 42.
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No way you need 40 players at this level.... 25 at most. The vast majority of your starting XI being ever presents (or thereabouts) with the odd horses for courses selection and the inevitable injuries/bans/strengthening the squad
Worcester do seem to be grim and I expect them to get nowhere near 40 points this season. Who knows we may already have enough.... but you don't wanna be relying on that. Its them 3 games in a row after next week that will define whether we can rest easy for the last 6 weeks or bricking ourselves about the prospect of the unthinkable
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judge him on next season
Which division will we be in?
This league of course,we are 7 points above and yes above the relegation zone.
Doom and gloom I don't do.
Still a long way to go! We need to improve.
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Come on everyone, lets get our chins of the floor and fight on, this club has always had to fight for everything.
Things will get better, if we all stick together and get behind this team and manager.
AM will improve this team enormously next season, no budget left to spend this season so he can only get what's cheap and free, and lets face it,if it's available this time of the season, its for a reason.
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On a slightly different note....changing dug outs....I can see warming up in front of town end might be an advantage....
How exactly would this be an advantage?
Most of the York Street end support tends to arrive fairly early and will applaud the team as they run out and start their warm-up. As we're closer to the tunnel the players will hear this. Meanwhile the Town End doesn't start filling up until ten minutes before kick off (by which time the players are on their way back in) having completed a warm-up in front of a large but predominantly empty terrace. I'd say it was more of a disadvantage than an advantage!
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Just don't subscribe to the myths that things will necessarily improve ..
~ next season
~ when the manager has his own players
~ when we move to new stadium ( if ? )
~ everyone gets behind manager and team .
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On a slightly different note....changing dug outs....I can see warming up in front of town end might be an advantage....
How exactly would this be an advantage?
Most of the York Street end support tends to arrive fairly early and will applaud the team as they run out and start their warm-up. As we're closer to the tunnel the players will hear this. Meanwhile the Town End doesn't start filling up until ten minutes before kick off (by which time the players are on their way back in) having completed a warm-up in front of a large but predominantly empty terrace. I'd say it was more of a disadvantage than an advantage!
fair point
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On a slightly different note....changing dug outs....I can see warming up in front of town end might be an advantage....
How exactly would this be an advantage?
Most of the York Street end support tends to arrive fairly early and will applaud the team as they run out and start their warm-up. As we're closer to the tunnel the players will hear this. Meanwhile the Town End doesn't start filling up until ten minutes before kick off (by which time the players are on their way back in) having completed a warm-up in front of a large but predominantly empty terrace. I'd say it was more
of a disadvantage than an advantage!
Fully agree, plus the Main Stand and Spain Road are much fuller in the half nearer to York Street.
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Suppose tradition goes out the window when someone comes in and knows best?
Wonder what the statistics are at playing to town end second half?
I'd say we've lost 75% of the time, and that's not changed since the management decision 8)
Roll on next season, looking forward to a team built round the best midfielder in the league ;D ;D >:(
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No way you need 40 players at this level.... 25 at most. The vast majority of your starting XI being ever presents (or thereabouts) with the odd horses for courses selection and the inevitable injuries/bans/strengthening the squad
Worcester do seem to be grim and I expect them to get nowhere near 40 points this season. Who knows we may already have enough.... but you don't wanna be relying on that. Its them 3 games in a row after next week that will define whether we can rest easy for the last 6 weeks or bricking ourselves about the prospect of the unthinkable
Not known a team to have 40 players at this level all at one time , most clock up over 40 during a season though . Even with all the injuries I doubt we have had over 25 on the books at any time .
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Just don't subscribe to the myths that things will necessarily improve ..
~ next season
~ when the manager has his own players
~ when we move to new stadium ( if ? )
~ everyone gets behind manager and team .
Me neither Ted .
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We accept AM is overseeing a difficult period at our club. There will be more ups & downs between now & the end of the season. AM knows what we need to go up next season & he will deliver for us!! From Mansfield & Ashfield Chad 22/04/13: Mansfield captain AM ranked Stags BSP title glory as his greatest achievement in football. AM in his 3rd spell at the club has been previously promoted with the Stags in 2001/2 and Oxford Utd in 2009/10 season. Let him bring his own players in pre season and there could be in excess of 12 and he will have the whole pre season to develop his own team. Let's keep the faith for rest of this season & AM will take us up next season. Let's thank the Chestnuts too for such an ambitious appointment!!
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We accept AM is overseeing a difficult period at our club. There will be more ups & downs between now & the end of the season. AM knows what we need to go up next season & he will deliver for us!! From Mansfield & Ashfield Chad 22/04/13: Mansfield captain AM ranked Stags BSP title glory as his greatest achievement in football. AM in his 3rd spell at the club has been previously promoted with the Stags in 2001/2 and Oxford Utd in 2009/10 season. Let him bring his own players in pre season and there could be in excess of 12 and he will have the whole pre season to develop his own team. Let's keep the faith for rest of this season & AM will take us up next season. Let's thank the Chestnuts too for such an ambitious appointment!!
Welcome to Patter .
Success as a player does not mean it is going to be replicated as a manager . AM only produced average results at Mansfield .
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Thanks for the welcome GHM. AM was assistant manager to Paul Cox when Mansfield won the BSP in 2013 (& Captain). He also had two other promotions with Carlisle Utd between 2006-9. He also as Manager in his first season took the Stags to there highest league finish in 10 yes. Just think & hope AM can bring his promotion winning mentality to the Pilgrims next season!!
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Thanks for the welcome GHM. AM was assistant manager to Paul Cox when Mansfield won the BSP in 2013 (& Captain). He also had two other promotions with Carlisle Utd between 2006-9. He also as Manager in his first season took the Stags to there highest league finish in 10 yes. Just think & hope AM can bring his promotion winning mentality to the Pilgrims next season!!
I agree, we have got to give him a chance.
Nothing I have seen as given me much hope at present. But he has a solid track record.
It must be hard to take over mid season with a team in such a mess. I say let him bring in the right type of player post season, because mid season all the best players have been snapped up.
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I would think we will see a dramatic improvement when our performance analyst reports start taking effect .
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I thought AM moved the dugouts so he could be nearer the linesman to bet in his ear, and the Boston subs wouldn't be warming up in front of the away fans... which makes a bit more sense.
Little things can make a difference. Of course, it helps if you aren't effing crap too, that bit needs a little work, but with a summer to work on it I am hopeful next season will be better than this. Even if Fylde and, say, Salford go up though, still a massively tough ask to compete for the title. On the plus side, maybe an away day in York on the cards!
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Adam Murray must be given a chance and there should be no judgement made until at least halfway through next season. I don't know how everyone else feels but there seems to be nothing to excite me when I arrive at the ground for a home game leaving aside the prospect of the usual defeat, throughout the week there is little on the official site of interest and certainly nothing to lift the spirits of supporters and get them enthusiastic about the future. A feeling of fans being taken for granted, I recently donated to the excellent crowdfunding initiative but the club has done little to encourage this. Every Saturday home game it is the same routine with the CEO dishing out flags to a group of school children to wave as the teams emerge, Now everyone will know I have always encouraged the club to play an important part in the community and in many areas they are doing this but surely on game day they can do better. As for the new stadium many questions are being asked and indeed many have doubts it will ever happen, what has happened to the regular fans forums where we were always brought up to date with the progress of all thing BUFC, as it appears the club is being run by the CEO surely he has the authority to arrange one. Gates are falling, interest is waning so there needs to be some initiatives to halt this and embrace the clubs supporters.
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Adam Murray must be given a chance and there should be no judgement made until at least halfway through next season. I don't know how everyone else feels but there seems to be nothing to excite me when I arrive at the ground for a home game leaving aside the prospect of the usual defeat, throughout the week there is little on the official site of interest and certainly nothing to lift the spirits of supporters and get them enthusiastic about the future. A feeling of fans being taken for granted, I recently donated to the excellent crowdfunding initiative but the club has done little to encourage this. Every Saturday home game it is the same routine with the CEO dishing out flags to a group of school children to wave as the teams emerge, Now everyone will know I have always encouraged the club to play an important part in the community and in many areas they are doing this but surely on game day they can do better. As for the new stadium many questions are being asked and indeed many have doubts it will ever happen, what has happened to the regular fans forums where we were always brought up to date with the progress of all thing BUFC, as it appears the club is being run by the CEO surely he has the authority to arrange one. Gates are falling, interest is waning so there needs to be some initiatives to halt this and embrace the clubs supporters.
Agree Murray has to be given time , many have the same match day lack of expectations and have the same thoughts as you Mel ,
Must be time that the club gave an update regarding off the field matters .
What concerns me short term on the field is many of the players should do better , Lets hope AM can get motivating the players and not fail on motivational skills like Jason Lee .
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Adam Murray must be given a chance and there should be no judgement made until at least halfway through next season. I don't know how everyone else feels but there seems to be nothing to excite me when I arrive at the ground for a home game leaving aside the prospect of the usual defeat, throughout the week there is little on the official site of interest and certainly nothing to lift the spirits of supporters and get them enthusiastic about the future. A feeling of fans being taken for granted, I recently donated to the excellent crowdfunding initiative but the club has done little to encourage this. Every Saturday home game it is the same routine with the CEO dishing out flags to a group of school children to wave as the teams emerge, Now everyone will know I have always encouraged the club to play an important part in the community and in many areas they are doing this but surely on game day they can do better. As for the new stadium many questions are being asked and indeed many have doubts it will ever happen, what has happened to the regular fans forums where we were always brought up to date with the progress of all thing BUFC, as it appears the club is being run by the CEO surely he has the authority to arrange one. Gates are falling, interest is waning so there needs to be some initiatives to halt this and embrace the clubs supporters.
Mel this is a massive worry to me too, the interest from the club side has dropped since JB retired.
Us as fans have many questions to raise,and a fans forum is over due, but saying that David Newton has always replied to my emails,and answered any questions that I have put to him.
The new ground issue is playing on a lot of peoples mind, and we all know that we cant move forward until it is built,and promotion is near impossible without it,due to the rent being paid on York Street.
I just really hope AM does not get frustrated with the budget situation and leave, as I think DG lost heart when he knew that he could not offer his top players more money to stay.
This season has been terrible for sure.
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With the lease on York Street expiring Jan 18th next year it seems we are cutting it fine to have the new stadium completed by then? This is what the Chairman said in Saturday's programme. "The question I am constantly been asked is when the new stadium will start? The simple answer is when we have accurately bottomed out the costs (construction costs have increased significantly over the past 2 years) & secured all the funding that will be required. We are not being secretive or evasive on this, but until we can see that all the funding will be in place, clearly we cannot start such a large project. We will let everyone know as soon as we are in a position to move things forward. I know many people are keen to help fundraise, but unless we know the amount to raise, again it is difficult to get things launched. We are making progress on the Quadrant project as a whole, which is of course where the majority of the funding for the new stadium will come from. The land sales of the commercial sites at the Quadrant are moving forward well & the infrastructure for the first part of the residential sites will be completed in March, so construction can commence on the new housing". I'm no expert in finance, fundraising or construction deadlines but this all seems a big big ask to be in place for next January. Maybe we will be ground sharing when we leave York Street?
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Perhaps if I had purchased a programme on Saturday,I could have a answered my questions and concerns.
Lesson learned their I think 😃
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Or maybe we'll just move in to a incomplete stadium
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Or maybe we'll just move in to a incomplete stadium
This is preferable to a ground-share, IMO.
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Or maybe we'll just move in to a incomplete stadium
This is preferable to a ground-share, IMO.
I'd say so you'd only need the minimum required for this level.
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A partially completed new stadium may not meet health and safety requirements for spectators. Personally, I think the club should try and ground share with our friends at Tattershall Road like the successful Youth team already do. I am sure Town's stadium probably meets the requirements for NPL or Conference (North) standards. As for Mr Murray, I have said before he is a brilliant young manager but I am not 100% sure if he is getting much job satisfaction at the moment at the Club - I hope that I am wrong.
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Not a chance of the ground being open by January 18th next year. For that to happen they'd need to be in a position to start building pretty much tomorrow, which quite clearly they're not if they're still not even sure how much the thing is going to cost.
I don't know where this leaves us. Arranging a ground share somewhere will be a horrendous distraction, and crowds and finances will inevitably take a hell of a hit, but it's looking increasingly likely if a lease extension cannot be negotiated.
It's a shame this stuff only ends up in the match programme too. Exiles are as keen for updates on this critically important milestone as anyone else.
Still. Hiccups were to be expected. It's a vastly complicated scheme when you factor in all that needs to happen for the Chestnuts to pull this off, so let's just cross our fingers and hope they can iron out the issues asap. I'm fed up of being dicked around by crap like Nuneaton and Harrogate.
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Back to the topic of AM. Listening to him he knows what needs doing but his hands are tied as we have too many "players" on contracts that we cannot afford to pay off and move on allowing others to join (this stage of the season we would not attract much only fringe players) so he has to shuffle what he has. It seems to me that a lot of the players signed were snapped up without seeing them play (Colley for instance) how else did they get a contract? As AM said Saturday night, too many boys not enough men and they cannot keep feeling sorry for themselves when a goal goes in and basically wave the white flag.
As for some of his selections, did he not say on day one of taking over that he wanted the lads in training three nights a week and if they could not commit to that they would not be selected? He saw a bunch of unfit players and is trying to get them fit, this has worked as we have witnessed late goals in games where the opposition have tired and we have kept going.
Clarke for me needs to get the ball under control first, he lets it roll across his body and tries to turn to the ball hopefully wrong-footing his opponent, this only works once as the opponent soon wises up to this but Clarke insists on doing it all match then stand in midfield watching the defence cope with runners.
I like the way AM never singles players out for criticism in interviews unlike some ex-managers, things like that should stay in the dressing room and not publicised to the media.
I will give my verdict again next season when he has had a chance to get his own team together and outed some of the current squad, talking of which who would you keep out of this squad? I can think of about 7 of the squad (cannot judge injured players until they make a return).
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A partially completed new stadium may not meet health and safety requirements for spectators. Personally, I think the club should try and ground share with our friends at Tattershall Road like the successful Youth team already do. I am sure Town's stadium probably meets the requirements for NPL or Conference (North) standards. As for Mr Murray, I have said before he is a brilliant young manager but I am not 100% sure if he is getting much job satisfaction at the moment at the Club - I hope that I am wrong.
Knowing a bit about ground grading not a chance would Tattershall rd make it. You'd need new floodlights for a start. I did state get the new Ground up to minimum requirements.
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A partially completed new stadium may not meet health and safety requirements for spectators. Personally, I think the club should try and ground share with our friends at Tattershall Road
1) It will if you make it do so. Corby's is fine, and they have 2 stands.
2) Why would Tatt. Road be more likely to meet H&S requirements for a 1000+ crowd, than a brand new purpose-built facility (albeit at reduced capapcity)?
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Back to the topic of AM. Listening to him he knows what needs doing but his hands are tied as we have too many "players" on contracts that we cannot afford to pay off and move on allowing others to join (this stage of the season we would not attract much only fringe players) so he has to shuffle what he has. It seems to me that a lot of the players signed were snapped up without seeing them play (Colley for instance) how else did they get a contract? As AM said Saturday night, too many boys not enough men and they cannot keep feeling sorry for themselves when a goal goes in and basically wave the white flag.
As for some of his selections, did he not say on day one of taking over that he wanted the lads in training three nights a week and if they could not commit to that they would not be selected? He saw a bunch of unfit players and is trying to get them fit, this has worked as we have witnessed late goals in games where the opposition have tired and we have kept going.
Clarke for me needs to get the ball under control first, he lets it roll across his body and tries to turn to the ball hopefully wrong-footing his opponent, this only works once as the opponent soon wises up to this but Clarke insists on doing it all match then stand in midfield watching the defence cope with runners.
I like the way AM never singles players out for criticism in interviews unlike some ex-managers, things like that should stay in the dressing room and not publicised to the media.
I will give my verdict again next season when he has had a chance to get his own team together and outed some of the current squad, talking of which who would you keep out of this squad? I can think of about 7 of the squad (cannot judge injured players until they make a return).
Don,t think AM has thought some of his plans though , fine saying getting the players in 3 nights a week . Many p/t will not or cannot commit to 3 nights a week , this will restrict he number of players available . To get players to commit to 3 nights a week a bigger wage is demanded , do we have a smaller squad ? increase the budget ? or get cheaper lesser quality players ?
When we concede a few early goals one late goal due to superior fitness is of little use .
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Don,t think AM has thought some of his plans though , fine saying getting the players in 3 nights a week . Many p/t will not or cannot commit to 3 nights a week , this will restrict he number of players available . To get players to commit to 3 nights a week a bigger wage is demanded , do we have a smaller squad ? increase the budget ? or get cheaper lesser quality players ?
When we concede a few early goals one late goal due to superior fitness is of little use .
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a previous, now gone and name escapes me, fitness coach gave the players a regime they were asked to adhere to...
cheaper less quality players??? Aldi sell big bags of peanuts.................
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Back to the topic of AM. Listening to him he knows what needs doing but his hands are tied as we have too many "players" on contracts that we cannot afford to pay off and move on allowing others to join (this stage of the season we would not attract much only fringe players) so he has to shuffle what he has. It seems to me that a lot of the players signed were snapped up without seeing them play (Colley for instance) how else did they get a contract? As AM said Saturday night, too many boys not enough men and they cannot keep feeling sorry for themselves when a goal goes in and basically wave the white flag.
As for some of his selections, did he not say on day one of taking over that he wanted the lads in training three nights a week and if they could not commit to that they would not be selected? He saw a bunch of unfit players and is trying to get them fit, this has worked as we have witnessed late goals in games where the opposition have tired and we have kept going.
Clarke for me needs to get the ball under control first, he lets it roll across his body and tries to turn to the ball hopefully wrong-footing his opponent, this only works once as the opponent soon wises up to this but Clarke insists on doing it all match then stand in midfield watching the defence cope with runners.
I like the way AM never singles players out for criticism in interviews unlike some ex-managers, things like that should stay in the dressing room and not publicised to the media.
I will give my verdict again next season when he has had a chance to get his own team together and outed some of the current squad, talking of which who would you keep out of this squad? I can think of about 7 of the squad (cannot judge injured players until they make a return).
Don,t think AM has thought some of his plans though , fine saying getting the players in 3 nights a week . Many p/t will not or cannot commit to 3 nights a week , this will restrict he number of players available . To get players to commit to 3 nights a week a bigger wage is demanded , do we have a smaller squad ? increase the budget ? or get cheaper lesser quality players ?
When we concede a few early goals one late goal due to superior fitness is of little use .
Also i find it unfair on players already signed, to then say you have to come in more nights. They my have arranged work around it the way it was
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It sounds to me like AM wants the players to train 3 nights in some weeks but not others. In his post-match video on Saturday, he said he'd be having the players in for an extra session.
I can see the benefit if we play on a Tuesday night, of a tactical session on a Monday.
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It sounds to me like AM wants the players to train 3 nights in some weeks but not others. In his post-match video on Saturday, he said he'd be having the players in for an extra session.
I can see the benefit if we play on a Tuesday night, of a tactical session on a Monday.
Like other work forces some players will have genuine reasons to miss the extra session , a few will have a "funeral " "wedding " or "important meeting to attend" , (we've all done it ). A recipe for friction in the squad .
"tactical session" ! when are we going to start them ?
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All this talk about the new stadium...we've been told countless times by 'those in the know' that no stadium is going to be built !
;D ;D :bunny :o
I've resigned myself to thinking we are now going to be homeless for good, lol.
Conspiracy theories
BUFC
Hand in Hand
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Regarding a new stadium all I'm saying is when you have valuable land and 2 sets of property hungry people involved on many occasions the football club will be forgot about.
Kettering, Edgware Town, Grays Athletic and Scarborough are a few examples.
In the case of Grays they were promised a new stadium from the sale of the old Rec a few years went past support dwindled the plans were scrapped and now the are just existing and guess what groundshareing still!!!!
For me a cautionary read is the answer to the programme notes.
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The stadium has to be built,it is part of the planning consent for the Quadrant, the council donated the land to BUFC that it is being built on.
Did nobody watch the podcast at the council planning meeting,when the plans were being passed.
If you had then you would have known that, David Newton is legally bound to build it, if he doesn't then he will be in breach of planning laws, and face huge fines sanctions.
Probably enough to put chestnuts out of business.
But DN does not have to build it before the Quadrant is built,there is obviously a timescale to allow him to generate money for the stadium from the Quadrant.
Why wouldn't he build it anyway,after all he has done for the club, so far ge has delivered everything he has promised.
After loosing the sport England grant, he could have come cap in hand to the Jo public to raise funds,but what has he done,he has decided to sell off the commercial land on the Quadrant to raise the money for the shortfall in funds for the stadium, no doubt these commercial plots were going to be leased out to generate long term income for Chestnut homes, so he is loosing money there.
After all just remember one thing,this club has no assets and you try building a stadium without any money in the bank, because that's what DN is trying to do.
If we have to ground share,so be it, but I have no doubt that DN has that already planned out as a contingency anyway.
That's what makes a successful businessman, always planning and thinking ahead.
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A partially completed new stadium may not meet health and safety requirements for spectators. Personally, I think the club should try and ground share with our friends at Tattershall Road like the successful Youth team already do. I am sure Town's stadium probably meets the requirements for NPL or Conference (North) standards. As for Mr Murray, I have said before he is a brilliant young manager but I am not 100% sure if he is getting much job satisfaction at the moment at the Club - I hope that I am wrong.
Tattershall Road might meet standards required but the access road certainly wouldn't! Just imagine leaving time!!!
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We accept AM is overseeing a difficult period at our club. There will be more ups & downs between now & the end of the season. AM knows what we need to go up next season & he will deliver for us!! From Mansfield & Ashfield Chad 22/04/13: Mansfield captain AM ranked Stags BSP title glory as his greatest achievement in football. AM in his 3rd spell at the club has been previously promoted with the Stags in 2001/2 and Oxford Utd in 2009/10 season. Let him bring his own players in pre season and there could be in excess of 12 and he will have the whole pre season to develop his own team. Let's keep the faith for rest of this season & AM will take us up next season. Let's thank the Chestnuts too for such an ambitious appointment!!
"Let him bring his own players in " . I,m sure you agree that these new players will have to be a lot better than Adam Chapman , one player not rated by most Stag fans . No better than the mid-fielders we had on the books . Any idea why AM signed him .?
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A partially completed new stadium may not meet health and safety requirements for spectators. Personally, I think the club should try and ground share with our friends at Tattershall Road
1) It will if you make it do so. Corby's is fine, and they have 2 stands.
2) Why would Tatt. Road be more likely to meet H&S requirements for a 1000+ crowd, than a brand new purpose-built facility (albeit at reduced capapcity)?
Hello Scotty. Very good points as usual. As long as H&S are happy that playing football at partially completed new Chestnuts/Quadrant Stadium in an ongoing construction area is safe with minimal danger to spectators then, maybe, games could be played there.
In reply to your second question, I do not know! Does Tattershall Road already meet H&S requirements for a 1000+ crowd? I am sure that better men that you and me have looked into this. Which is a better venue for a short period of time - a partially built Chestnuts/Quadrant stadium or Tattershall Road? Not for me to say as I do not know all the pitfalls.
Either way, the new Chestnuts/Quadrant stadium will eventually be built as the roundabout and service road is already there and so is the "stadium" directional sign on the A16!
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Prior to joining Trinity last Nov Adam Chapman's last 112 club appearances were in League 2 between 2013 & September 2016. Newport Co offered him a new deal at the end of 2015 but he chose to join Mansfield in a 1 year deal and went on to play 37 times 2015/16. I think it must be fair to say he has League 2 pedigree! This could be part of the reason AM has given him a chance here. Because that's what I think it is: an opportunity to adjust, adapt & perform for us at a competitive lower level. AM played in midfield with him in Oxford United's 2010 Conference promotion winning side so he knows what he brings to the team. Will he do it for us?? For me fitness looks an issue at the moment. He was injured in his brief spell at Trinity. Dom Roma said of him "he is a great lad who I have allot of time for & he undoubtedly has a lot of talent". As said by other posters many of the current crop won't be here next season, Chapman may or may not cut it here? Murray said of Chapman when he came "he knows he will have to prove himself to a new set of supporters but at his best he is way too good for this level". I thoroughly agree that we haven't seen him at his best yet but i do think AM was right to give him a go because of his recent League 2 track record.
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How long do we give him?
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How long do we give him?
Chapman or Champs next year??
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How long do we give him?
Chapman or Champs next year??
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Prior to joining Trinity last Nov Adam Chapman's last 112 club appearances were in League 2 between 2013 & September 2016. Newport Co offered him a new deal at the end of 2015 but he chose to join Mansfield in a 1 year deal and went on to play 37 times 2015/16. I think it must be fair to say he has League 2 pedigree! This could be part of the reason AM has given him a chance here. Because that's what I think it is: an opportunity to adjust, adapt & perform for us at a competitive lower level. AM played in midfield with him in Oxford United's 2010 Conference promotion winning side so he knows what he brings to the team. Will he do it for us?? For me fitness looks an issue at the moment. He was injured in his brief spell at Trinity. Dom Roma said of him "he is a great lad who I have allot of time for & he undoubtedly has a lot of talent". As said by other posters many of the current crop won't be here next season, Chapman may or may not cut it here? Murray said of Chapman when he came "he knows he will have to prove himself to a new set of supporters but at his best he is way too good for this level". I thoroughly agree that we haven't seen him at his best yet but i do think AM was right to give him a go because of his recent League 2 track record.
If he is way too good for this level he will soon be gone , or do we pay him Div 2 wages ?
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How long do we give him?
Chapman or Champs next year??
Maybe they are the same person :laugh: :laugh:
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How long do we give him?
Chapman or Champs next year??
Maybe they are the same person :laugh: :laugh:
funny how we now have a new well informed (apparently) poster ........
where is ShauneyG these days?
Danny Davidsons left foot?
Miele?
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How long do we give him?
Chapman or Champs next year??
Maybe they are the same person :laugh: :laugh:
funny how we now have a new well informed (apparently) poster ........
where is ShauneyG these days?
Danny Davidsons left foot?
Miele?
And oop's the 60minute wonder with his record breaking 4 posts in 60mins, never to be seen again .
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Are you suggesting,that some BUFC players or Management come on here sometimes,post a bit then bugger off.
Wow 😲 who would of thought our little forum would attract such interest!!
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How long do we give him?
Chapman or Champs next year??
Maybe they are the same person :laugh: :laugh:
funny how we now have a new well informed (apparently) poster ........
where is ShauneyG these days?
Danny Davidsons left foot?
Miele?
And oop's the 60minute wonder with his record breaking 4 posts in 60mins, never to be seen again .
maybe they're in a Pilgrims protection program, with new identities? If anyone finds one out, may be they should be added to the "where are they now?" thread!!!!!!
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Are you suggesting,that some BUFC players or Management come on here sometimes,post a bit then bugger off.
Wow 😲 who would of thought our little forum would attract such interest!!
I think you maybe referring to my post chubby , no BUFC players or management suspected in this case .
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Are you suggesting,that some BUFC players or Management come on here sometimes,post a bit then bugger off.
Wow 😲 who would of thought our little forum would attract such interest!!
Well if Robbie Savage can do it...
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Are you suggesting,that some BUFC players or Management come on here sometimes,post a bit then bugger off.
Wow 😲 who would of thought our little forum would attract such interest!!
Well if Robbie Savage can do it...
Robbie Savage can write?
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Are you suggesting,that some BUFC players or Management come on here sometimes,post a bit then bugger off.
Wow 😲 who would of thought our little forum would attract such interest!!
Well if Robbie Savage can do it...
Robbie Savage can write?
it's rumoured, but not joined up and words of four letters or less..............
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Definitely not joined up, and mainly with a dictionary handy,just in case he needs to write big words such as,it,in,cat,dog,off,on,and a really tricky word like Robbie.
😃 lol
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I fully understand the suspicion concerning any unidentified new poster on Patter! I spoke to 2 Salford fans at our game there last October & they said an 1883 fan had got onto their forum & thoroughly stirred things up! However I am a lifelong BUFC fan who attends most games home & away. I have missed one away game this season (just wish it had been Fylde)!! We will be at Halifax Saturday. So all things considered I accept my welcome to PP as being humourously sceptical I expected nothing less!!
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Welcome champs,we do love a bit of banter and teasing at times, please feel free to give as good as you get, I have not been a member long,but a life long fan .
What you do get on here is plenty of honest options and sometimes put in your place,which is good thing.
You also get plenty of information and sound advice, not all of us see eye to eye,but we never stoop as low to throw personal insults at each other,which you find on other forums.
Enjoy the banter,don't be afraid to say what you think or feel.
Have a safe journey to Halifax on Saturday,oh and if you get a chance,don't forget to give Dents' a bit of abuse,he would think it strange if Boston fan's didn't lol.
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Thanks for the welcome yc69. Agree great debates, valued opinions, information sharing & of course good banter on PP. Found your post on the legal side of the new stadium informative. I didn't realise the Chestnuts were legally bound to build the new ground due to the planning contract for the Quadrant project. So it's just a case of when not if.
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You are very welcome,the stadium will be built at some time soon,it does make sense what the chairman is saying about bottoming out the cost for the new Stadium,you can't have a budget for building if you don't know how it is going to cost.
I can't wait for it to be built, looking forward to the future and knowing the club will have a sustainable income for years to come.
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What's more preferable though?
Another short term lease at York Street (presumably costing us loads), or a year or two groundsharing somewhere. Where could we go? Town? Stamford? Grantham? I'd hate to become nomadic like Gloucester.
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What's more preferable though?
Another short term lease at York Street (presumably costing us loads), or a year or two groundsharing somewhere. Where could we go? Town? Stamford? Grantham? I'd hate to become nomadic like Gloucester.
Surely a short-term lease extension would be preferable - does it really matter in the long run if the club remains at the ground another year? The Malkies will still get their money. I dunno. Maybe it does. I'm not in full command of the facts, so I have no idea how amenable they would be to the idea of an extension, or if the rent is so astronomical that the club would prefer a year away somewhere else at cheaper rates to give our exhausted finances a bit of a breather.
That said, if we *did* have to ground-share, my vote would be for Stamford. It's a smidge further than Grantham (an extra ten minutes ish according to Google Maps) but the stadium is infinitely better than that horrible athletics track, and it's also near the A1 so the hit on crowds might not be as bad as we think.
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I am nearly 100 percent sure we will see out another season here at York Street.
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I am on total agreement Shrimp,ot wouldn't matter a jot to stay there.
I did here a rumour that Chestnut Homes had agreed to buy York Street,but that is only a rumour and I have no evidence to substantiate it
But if that was the case,staying there for another season would be no problem, as the chairman owns bots CH & BUFC.
It's just a case of wait and see.