Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: jelangley on February 04, 2017, 05:10:39 PM
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It's a struggle at the moment isnt it? We can't keep the ball, we struggle to play long ball never mind on the floor. Brodie? comes across as totally unfit and surely needs a couple.of months to get match sharpness, he maybhave history but on this showing no future. Much like that Skoda that had to be moved in the 2nd half, we were slow, uninteresting and not good value for money.
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as a season ticket holder I gave it a miss.
I was at Haven High watching the United Cheerleader show.
it was excellent.
Appears I made a good decision.
is the honeymoon over???
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To be honest took the 5yr old to his footy at haven this morning and would of gladly paid a gate fee, much better standard
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Very poor ,comedy of errors at the back , not one proper shot on target poor pitch and a team to match .
not impressed with new signings lets hope we can get some training in a next match play as a team :( :(
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Signings are complete tripe. All journeymen (that is a compliment), all mostly finnished and unfit, why do we keep playing them? id rather play a team of fit boston youth than pay to watch this dross.
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We were absolutely dreadful vs Harrogate today {who incidentally weren't not much better than we were...but were more professional in their approach to the game and capitalised 3 times on our terrible defending}....
=Brodie clearly isn't match fit...
=Did we actually start the game with "a plan?"...
=No,absolutely none,width...
=No shots on target...
=Basic defensive errors all game...
=No passion from anybody on the pitch...
=And once again no midfield...
I had high hopes with Adam Murrays appointment,but after an encouraging start it all seems to have reverted back to "as we were"....
I know new players need to "bed in" but really todays performance was not acceptable...
Chorley are next up,and that wont be easy....
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Dross !!!! Has the manager lost the dressing room already ?
Certainly the season is not over .
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Agreed, i know hes not long been here, and like his accent (im from the west midlands too) lol, but he talks too much bullshit, fair enough, he knows to talk the talk, but im afraid it aint showing
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Well that was terrible, Okay we are rebuilding but it appears that certain individuals believe they can get away with showing no desire or passion. It has to be said that Brodie is either not fit, over the hill, or both. Captain Clarke! what a joke he was absolutely shocking which does nothing for team spirit. As usual Jay was our only threat and we never saw a decent pass until Hillyard came on. It also has to be said that the pitch resembles a cow patch on which we will never be able to play football on even if we were capable.Not really disappointed that I cannot make the next game if this is the sort rubbish that is to be served up but I do have faith in Adam sorting things out.
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forgot about Clarke, why did we miss him that much? like i said, journeyman, not sure what is the answer but its been a common theme over the last 12 months - we must not play brodie next game, i aint paying to watch an unfit has been attempt to slow walk the ball on the edge of the box then proceed to boot it into fishtoft such was the height, awful
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Bloody rubbish,no passion,no guts,no understanding of basic tactics, no ideas.
But with all fairness to AM, he is having to rebuild a squad in the back end of the season, can't be many players out there to sign, the ones that not got a club now, have not for a reason.
I would imagine this team will look completely different next season.
I am not going to subscribe to the Adam Murray out brigade, give the fella a chance for gods sake.
Yes its hard to watch and frustrating for everyone including Adam.
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Really shows what a great asset Greg Smith is /was .
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i would agree with not going with the adam out brigade, but bloody Brodie????, honestly.he was so poor, so lifeless, hopeless and aimless, why didnt he pull him off and put the 17yr old on? Brodie.and others don't give a shit playing.for boston, its a part time wage and thats it, as is.demonstarted by their commitment, not sure ill be going next week i aint supplementing brodies wages. Chapman was alright, but alright aint going to win football matches. Use the youth, at least their heart is in it
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I was one who thought Brodie would be a good signing. Looks like I was wrong
So far he;s been very poor. Doesn't run, wins nowt in the sky, is constantly offside and gives too many free kicks away. A cross between pantomime villain and pantomime horse!
Chapman looked far from 'the best midfielder in the league' went for glory balls all the time and didn't pick his man up. In my view gave us nothing Hilliard wouldn't have given us
I'll bet the two of them are costing us a grand a week combined. Probably more. Ridiculous in my view. Interesting to see if both start v Chorley. I'm certain they will. Manager can't afford his big name signings to fail so he will keep picking them to the detriment of the team
To end- the pitch is an embarrasment. Top two inches were loose sand. If you're going to sand it you've got to roll it. Players from both sides slipping all over the place. Makes for very poor football. Rather than spending a grand :D a week on the two big names, how about some TLC for the pitch?
Views?
Takes a long time to get a pitch improved , looks like they have compromised and loaded lots of sand on it to make it playable for donkeys ;)
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But the donkeys didnt 'play' they just made a mess
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Obviously weren't the Nuttles donkeys, the last Nuttel I saw play on that pitch was pretty good.
Most Donkeys can be led, but it looks like we got the stubborn ones.
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The manager summed it up himself on Radio Lincs when he used the words "disjointed" and "unacceptable". I don't see the need to say any more than that.
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Our donkeys aint stubborn, just heartless journerymen with no desire to win for boston other than to collect their moneys, murray, get rid for god sake, yes thats includes brodie - i notice the attendance was down today will be even less next week!
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my ratings up until.now..
Durrant - looks short of confidence and.doesnt command, Thomas - ok Robinson - ok, Batchelor - Poor decision making out of depth, Gordon - Best defender for boston, strong in tackle, Clarke - Who? bow legged and uncommited Chapman - 2 good touches but uneffective, Gatter - No confidence and struggled, Rollins - Bostons only comitted player for the cause, he bleeds yellow, Brodie - Manequin best used in Aldrids, Chippendale - Steady....Steady..
SUBS: Hawley - Fantastic...NOT, Hilliard - Totally underated, has a lot of talent when given the space, Fitzpatrick - Yeah Simmons, Yeomans.
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Hawley was bollocking Brodie when he came on telling him where to be, when to make runs etc and get involved. I have never been one to slate players but where the hell did we get him from? Bet they pissed themselves laughing when we took him off their hands, seen better on a Sunday Morning, even pissed up lads put a shift in but he came off the pitch as clean as he went on it. ONE shot on target and that was a free kick that hit the inside of the post. Knew they would get a penalty as they tried all the first half to get one with the constant diving but as for the second goal, dear oh dear, it was Chucklevision time. you have it, no you have it no you have it the attacker thought ok I will have it then and game over.
Surely it is time to give youth a chance and drop the dead donkey, feel we are stuck with what we have until the end of the season though as most players are tied to clubs so will have to see what AM does in the close season but I am thinking there will be a lot of ins and outs.
One thing I did say when AM was appointed and I listened to his first interview was oh shit it is LVG NNNNOOOO when he said about his philosophy and we all know where that got Man United. Football, play on the ground get the ball into the other teams net, that is not philosophy that is just what it is.
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Genuine question, as i've not been able to get recently, are Murray's signings any better than those that Greene signed when there was so much unrest and anger ? Or is there belief that all these will come good, and soon ? It seems we are unable to defend well this season, and do lack a half decent goal scorer.
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Hurry up Greg
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Genuine question, as i've not been able to get recently, are Murray's signings any better than those that Greene signed when there was so much unrest and anger ? Or is there belief that all these will come good, and soon ? It seems we are unable to defend well this season, and do lack a half decent goal scorer.
genuine answer, initially I thought that the new manager was doing the right by strengthening the spine if the team. 2 big strong centre backs, more rugged types in centre mid, and a target man up top. Strength through the side from front to back. However, for me, today there were too many changes, both in personel and in the playing system and shape on the field. The players didn't gel, and didn't look like they'd played much together.
I was one of the people who didn't like Dennis revolving door, and sorry to rain on AM's parade, what I watched today bore too many similarities to Dennis' more recent darker hours as Boston manager. I came away thinking the good start AM has made still needs much more work if we're going to avoid a relegation scrap. There's some tough matches in the next few weeks, so let's hope Park Avenue don't embark on a heroic run, or the 7 point cushion we have won't be there for long.
I still think that AM is doing the right things, but today was a stark reminder of what more needs doing, and the hard work has only just started. In AMs own words, "it's going to be a long 11 weeks".
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Awful performance today the second goal was a catalogue of errors which you would struggle to see in the bottom division of the Boston league.
You'd also struggle to see a worse pitch in the Boston league as well.
The so called best midfielder in the league was surely not out there today or his just blended in with the general dross on display.
It was half price tickets for the next home game on this viewing they should be giving them away!
No width at times it looked like 4 central midfielders all on each other's toes, shocking.
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agree re chapman. didn't pick his man up and wanted to 'go long' too often with glory passes
let's give him the benefit of the doubt as it's his first game. as for brodie though he's really struggled and surely, based on his displays for us so far has to be benched next time out?
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apparently AM doesn't like criticism (do any of us?)
tonight's comments will make uncomfortable reading.
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Before a ball had been kicked we looked clueless,
Team went wrong end of ground, then the bench followed.
Think criticism of Brodie is a bit unfair he's had 2 shots in 2 games ;D
At lest we have cover from the bench if things not going well, I'm sure Hawley
Can still do a job??.
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seriously, why is the pitch so bad? a club with our resources shouldn't allow their surface to get this bad surely? anyone know if there are plans to put it right and whether a short term fix is possible as it's really not helpful is it?
What resources?? It can cost tens of thousands of pounds to fully relay a pitch from scratch.
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Why bother spending on it when we are moving is probably the thinking behind it.
As for changing the warm up and dug out, just watched AM's interview and he says there are reasons but he will not go into them cos other teams watch the videos.
He did make a lot of sense after the game and knows where it went wrong and why without moaning about the pitch/referee or supporters so that is a plus. Ten days now to sort it out and get us going again, I was not one who was thinking playoffs after the start he had, just avoiding the drop will be a plus on this forgetful season.
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Genuine question, as i've not been able to get recently, are Murray's signings any better than those that Greene signed when there was so much unrest and anger ? Or is there belief that all these will come good, and soon ? It seems we are unable to defend well this season, and do lack a half decent goal scorer.
genuine answer, initially I thought that the new manager was doing the right by strengthening the spine if the team. 2 big strong centre backs, more rugged types in centre mid, and a target man up top. Strength through the side from front to back. However, for me, today there were too many changes, both in personel and in the playing system and shape on the field. The players didn't gel, and didn't look like they'd played much together.
I was one of the people who didn't like Dennis revolving door, and sorry to rain on AM's parade, what I watched today bore too many similarities to Dennis' more recent darker hours as Boston manager. I came away thinking the good start AM has made still needs much more work if we're going to avoid a relegation scrap. There's some tough matches in the next few weeks, so let's hope Park Avenue don't embark on a heroic run, or the 7 point cushion we have won't be there for long.
I still think that AM is doing the right things, but today was a stark reminder of what more needs doing, and the hard work has only just started. In AMs own words, "it's going to be a long 11 weeks".
Thanks, i appreciate an honest response. As many know, i was one that backed the previously manager up until the last few months when even i knew we had to make a change. I even got into a few silly heated exchanges with fans over the whole issue, which i regret as after all, we are all Boston. We all have differing views, but being away from the action made me want to gain some feedback from the fans that are at the games as to what the general feeling was on the current players etc. I hope that these new signings do come good, but i guess we can only judge the new manager from the start of next season when the whole team becomes his and not a mix from the previous regime. Would you say Brodie has goals in him from what you have seen so far ? Is it fair to say maybe he has not had any decent delivery ?
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It would help Brodie if he looked interested in playing IMO. He was either offside or giving free kicks away and unless the ball was straight to him he wasn't interested and seemed to be content staying in the middle rather than drawing defenders out of position and then 9 times out of 10 he would be in the way when someone was trying to make inroads into the box As a target man he is no Greg Smith and it says something when Hawley comes on and starts telling him what to do, I mean at 29 if he has no idea how to be a forward by now then it is too bloody late.
Admittedly he was fouled a few times but he committed twice as many.
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It would help Brodie if he looked interested in playing IMO. He was either offside or giving free kicks away and unless the ball was straight to him he wasn't interested and seemed to be content staying in the middle rather than drawing defenders out of position and then 9 times out of 10 he would be in the way when someone was trying to make inroads into the box As a target man he is no Greg Smith and it says something when Hawley comes on and starts telling him what to do, I mean at 29 if he has no idea how to be a forward by now then it is too bloody late.
Admittedly he was fouled a few times but he committed twice as many.
Hawley looks good then, despite his age ? I agree about Smith, he seems like a good find and i really hope he is around next season and back to his best.
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Cannot comment on Hawley as he was not on that long, was just pointing out that he was giving Brodie a verbal so maybe that was why he came on.
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As for changing the warm up and dug out, just watched AM's interview and he says there are reasons but he will not go into them cos other teams watch the videos.
There are 2 possibilities - 1. he wants the players to warm up in front of the home end. Although there are sometimes far more home fans at the other end of the pitch & main stand. Or 2. He wants the linesman to be away from the opposition dugout.
Whatever the reason(s) it didn't work today.
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Genuine question, as i've not been able to get recently, are Murray's signings any better than those that Greene signed when there was so much unrest and anger ? Or is there belief that all these will come good, and soon ? It seems we are unable to defend well this season, and do lack a half decent goal scorer.
genuine answer, initially I thought that the new manager was doing the right by strengthening the spine if the team. 2 big strong centre backs, more rugged types in centre mid, and a target man up top. Strength through the side from front to back. However, for me, today there were too many changes, both in personel and in the playing system and shape on the field. The players didn't gel, and didn't look like they'd played much together.
I was one of the people who didn't like Dennis revolving door, and sorry to rain on AM's parade, what I watched today bore too many similarities to Dennis' more recent darker hours as Boston manager. I came away thinking the good start AM has made still needs much more work if we're going to avoid a relegation scrap. There's some tough matches in the next few weeks, so let's hope Park Avenue don't embark on a heroic run, or the 7 point cushion we have won't be there for long.
I still think that AM is doing the right things, but today was a stark reminder of what more needs doing, and the hard work has only just started. In AMs own words, "it's going to be a long 11 weeks".
Thanks, i appreciate an honest response. As many know, i was one that backed the previously manager up until the last few months when even i knew we had to make a change. I even got into a few silly heated exchanges with fans over the whole issue, which i regret as after all, we are all Boston. We all have differing views, but being away from the action made me want to gain some feedback from the fans that are at the games as to what the general feeling was on the current players etc. I hope that these new signings do come good, but i guess we can only judge the new manager from the start of next season when the whole team becomes his and not a mix from the previous regime. Would you say Brodie has goals in him from what you have seen so far ? Is it fair to say maybe he has not had any decent delivery ?
A very good opinion, I agree totally with this,we as a club have a long way to go,but we do have a lot to look forward too,the new ground etc.
When AM signed Brodie,I recall him saying that he was here for this season,but had to prove himself to earn another contract,or something along those lines.
But I agree,he has not had the decent service a striker needs,that might change when StJuste is fit again.
Who knows,but we are all need to show more patience,and try to be positive.
Have a good Sunday everyone.
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It would help Brodie if he looked interested in playing IMO. He was either offside or giving free kicks away and unless the ball was straight to him he wasn't interested and seemed to be content staying in the middle rather than drawing defenders out of position and then 9 times out of 10 he would be in the way when someone was trying to make inroads into the box As a target man he is no Greg Smith and it says something when Hawley comes on and starts telling him what to do, I mean at 29 if he has no idea how to be a forward by now then it is too bloody late.
Admittedly he was fouled a few times but he committed twice as many.
Brodie knows how to score goals, not be the big lump up front he's being expected to be. Get the ball into the box from the wings and he'll do better - the formation didn't suit him at all.
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Mr brodie has a wonderful way of words in his old twitter account, google it and check it out
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Mr brodie has a wonderful way of words in his old twitter account, google it and check it out
comments from 7 years ago, but he's fluent in profanities, isn't he? A shining example of how negative social media can be.
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Mr brodie has a wonderful way of words in his old twitter account, google it and check it out
That looks like a parody account to me.
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more i've thought about it the more i reckon yesterday is just a blip. we all have bad days at work and yesterday was just one such day
we were decent at BPA, decent second half and Tamworth but just bad bad bad yesteday. nothing we tried went right did it? that said, would like us to try to play more football
like an earlier poster points out, brodie isn't mobile enough to get onto long punts from the back but he's certainly equipped to attack crosses. can't think of a decent cross we put in from open play yesterday so let's go 4 4 2, get it wide and get ball in for brodie to attack. with hawley's pedigree i'd like to see him start alongside brodie too
don't know if anyone from the club read this but guys, the surface is a disgrace for this level. the players and manager are being let down by asking them to play on a ploughed field. we have some lovely footballers, let's give them a decent top to perform on eh? the performance was unacceptable correct, but the pitch is unacceptable too
just a blip i reckon so keep the faith people, the future is bright if the present is still cloudy! we as fans can do better too i reckon- not a great atmosphere yesterday so let's turn out in numbers on valentine's night. treat him/ her to a fish supper, a pint in the pilgrim and cheer the team on
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Thought the "Town End" were too quiet, the youngsters sat in the stands made more noise than our, supposedly, vociferous supporters that gather there! (duck) ;)
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You're right Ernie, it was hard work getting anything going. So empty up there. Embarrassing when 57 of them make more noise than us and a few kids in the main stand (good on 'em) make more noise than us. Flattest atmosphere for a home game in a while, and we've had some flat atmospheres this year
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You're right Ernie, it was hard work getting anything going. So empty up there. Embarrassing when 57 of them make more noise than us and a few kids in the main stand (good on 'em) make more noise than us. Flattest atmosphere for a home game in a while, and we've had some flat atmospheres this year
Disappointing when many town enders were vociferous in there abuse to get the previous manger out .
Any idea josh why they are not getting behind the new manager ?
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Not the manager that was the problem with some in the town end it was Brodie.
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we can do better as a crowd so let#s give it a big go v chorley
whilst i thought brodie struggled badly, i thought chapman was miles off it too. just seemed to stroll through the game and didn't engage physically with the opposition and looked for the long pass most of the time
if you watch the highlights back on harrogate's site, the early clearance from ross goes straight to him but he mis controls it into their lad's path and the second goal he drops kalern right in the s**t with a horrible chipped square pass when he has a man closing him down. they then nick it and, as the manager points out, batch should then whack it over the stand once the ball is in front of him. he had a clear shout to clear it
mistakes do happen though and all of the above aren't helped by our dreadful pitch are they?
on another note, given the trinity job is up for grabs- which of our players are a) non contract and b) favourites of the previous manager therefore making them vulnerable to approach should the seemingly inevitable appointment come? just interested in people's views. enjoy your weeks people. just a shame we have no game next week to put things right
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I think if Green got the job then Hilliard would be a target he would probably have a go at getting Rollins but I feel he will be off to play higher in the summer.
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I think if Green got the job then Hilliard would be a target he would probably have a go at getting Rollins but I feel he will be off to play higher in the summer.
That would be a blow below the belt , losing Hilliard to Trinity and us getting Chapman !!! not good .
Ironic that we have had constant demands for "mid-field midgets " to be replaced by big experienced players . Several comments on Saturdays match remarked that the midget midfielder replacing Chapman improved the team .
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I think if Green got the job then Hilliard would be a target he would probably have a go at getting Rollins but I feel he will be off to play higher in the summer.
Hilliard is under contract, as is Rollins, until the end of the season
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Not the manager that was the problem with some in the town end it was Brodie.
Not able to hear any chants on Saturday where I sit . Could hear them clearly earlier in the season when chanting abuse at the manager .
What were they shouting at Brodie ?
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Not the manager that was the problem with some in the town end it was Brodie.
Not able to hear any chants on Saturday where I sit . Could hear them clearly earlier in the season when chanting abuse at the manager .
What were they shouting at Brodie ?
Just general abuse not chanting as such I was fairly near the front
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The very worse bit is the fact that their strikers were defenders
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The very worse bit is the fact that their strikers were defenders
agreed, but in fairness, #9 had scored 4 in a game vs Alfreton not that long ago, so not a novice.
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I think they are all on contracts until the summer, and the other ones are long term injuries, so I wouldn't worry to much about them following him to Trinity.
There's only a few of his favourites I would want to keep anyway, Rollins,Roberts,Maguire and Smith is on a two year deal anyway.
The rest can go and join him.