Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: colindavy on January 17, 2017, 01:17:24 PM
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A couple of years ago, I took my Australian son-in-law to see Everton play. It was a dull game, so to make up for it, I took him to see Southport.
It was a great laugh. A jumped-up nobody playing for Southport embarrassed himself and the home fans by behaving like a total clown. At the merest touch, he continually fell over and complained to the referee. Even his own fans started to barrack him. That may be why he's moved on so much.
Have we really fallen this low? I only hope he's changed his ways, or he'll be gone soon.
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A lot can change in two years, give the lad a chance.
I don't think Adam would ever sign a clown, you can't judge a player on one performance.
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A couple of years ago, I took my Australian son-in-law to see Everton play. It was a dull game, so to make up for it, I took him to see Southport.
It was a great laugh. A jumped-up nobody playing for Southport embarrassed himself and the home fans by behaving like a total clown. At the merest touch, he continually fell over and complained to the referee. Even his own fans started to barrack him. That may be why he's moved on so much.
Have we really fallen this low? I only hope he's changed his ways, or he'll be gone soon.
His goals say different
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Seems pretty clear cut to me - we'd best preemptively sack Brodie now before he brings shame on the club. We've got a reputation to maintain, after all.
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A good manager, no matter what the line of work, will get the best out of his employee. I guess the fans will have to trust AM to do this. Let's judge a bit further down the line.
TEP
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I go along with TEP on this one .
I recall when Greene signed Scott Garner the forums of Imps , Grimsby and Cambridge U all claimed that Garner had been a disruption in their dressing room . In the three years here he was the opposite .
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Whilst I am not doubting your honest assessment of this one game colindavy, I am asking you to consider the damage your thread could do to our club. We have a new manager who is trying his hardest to get the whole club into a different mind-set, to stop the negativity and set the course for a long term progression. This player is our manager's choice and therefore we must trust that he knows more than us. Let us give everyone our respect and support and give them at least a chance.
I am asking you please consider taking down this thread.
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How very dare you Cavalier negativity and agreeing with certain people is what its all about
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Give the bloke a chance, for ****'s sake. He's not even pulled the bloody shirt on yet. I hope he gets a hat-trick, and I, and a few others by the look of it, will wait for your public apology to him. it will be the least he deserves after your public damning of him.
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Saw him about 5 years ago at the Britannia lead the Stoke defence a merry dance whilst playing for York in the FA Cup
Was very impressed and have followed his career ever since. Surprised he's never played higher up
We have a decent signing here. Pleased Gatter has extended his loan too. Fitzpatrick has also impressed me. AM has, in my view, recruited well. Looking forward to a strong finish to this season and a fast start to next
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What a stupid thread. Even more stupid that I am bothering to reply.
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A waste of time taking an Aussie to a football match, their more interested in odd shaped balls.
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Why does nothing ever surprise me any more with some in our fan base. New players, especially when we have not even seen them kick a ball in our shirt, deserve better treatment and more respect.
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OK, it was a nothing game for me and I was bored. I may have caught him on a very bad day (he was substituted just after half-time). His record suggests he has some talent (although the Southport fan who accompanied me was never a fan).
He may have grown up a little since. Happy to be proved totally wrong, and it won't be the first time.
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It was only half a game now you based it on. Even less respect. Delete the thread. :-[
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Why does nothing ever surprise me any more with some in our fan base. New players, especially when we have not even seen them kick a ball in our shirt, deserve better treatment and more respect.
I fully agree. Everyone deserves a chance.
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I've seen him play and he stood out but not for the right reasons. Everyone is allowed a bad game, and if that's all it was, so be it.
We'll see soon enough.
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I've seen him play and he stood out but not for the right reasons. Everyone is allowed a bad game, and if that's all it was, so be it.
We'll see soon enough.
415 appearances in his career, you chose a bad one and he's automatically an awful signing - ignoring the 134 goals, the vast majority at a level above us.
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I've seen him play and he stood out but not for the right reasons. Everyone is allowed a bad game, and if that's all it was, so be it.
We'll see soon enough.
415 appearances in his career, you chose a bad one and he's automatically an awful signing - ignoring the 134 goals, the vast majority at a level above us.
On the evidence of half a game. WTF :'( Do the right thing colindavy. Press the remove button!
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"On the evidence of half a game"
Which happens to be half a game more than you've seen.
He was yanked off because even the home supporters were taking the piss out of him.
It may have been a blip ... but putting your fingers in your ears and chanting "I can't hear you," isn't very grown-up.
The 'more clubs than Jack Nicklaus' phrase springs to mind. He may have been misunderstood - he obviously has some talent, but falling over and appealing to the referee at every tackle didn't endear him to his own supporters. hence he was brought off. Perhaps he's grown up in the two years since. We can but hope.
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A couple of years ago, I took my Australian son-in-law to see Everton play. It was a dull game, so to make up for it, I took him to see Southport.
It was a great laugh. A jumped-up nobody playing for Southport embarrassed himself and the home fans by behaving like a total clown. At the merest touch, he continually fell over and complained to the referee. Even his own fans started to barrack him. That may be why he's moved on so much.
Have we really fallen this low? I only hope he's changed his ways, or he'll be gone soon.
Always like to hear a good story - thanks for sharing.
It's one observation, so let's chill everyone, and stop the abuse. :bunny
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How many clubs has Ricky Miller played for? If we had signed him instead of Brodie would his number of clubs automatically label him as a bad signing?
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No York street you have to watch him play afor a few mins aswel
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Conflicting opinions , but as odd as it seems I have only one problem with any of the posts on this thread .
I think Brodie will turn out to be a top class signing .
I also read a lot of Nat Con forums etc , there are many on the forums at SOME clubs who would back the colindavy post .
Time will tell which is the right prediction , whatever the outcome nothing unusual for any of us to be wrong !!!
We,ve made our point , he,s made his and that's what forums are all about .
What saddens me is colindavy made an overall damning assessment of a short appearance Brodie made but did not contain any abusive content . Yet it is demanded this thread is removed .
During Greene successful period a few posters directed vitriol at Greene on a regular basis and I cannot recall anyone demanding threads to be removed .
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Sober post GHM ;)
Maybe the team needs a bit of 'attitude'
Rem of those big pillaging units from up North who have done Boston the last few seasons ..
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We all don't like Tom Denton,he cheats he plays the ref,he is a bully and sometimes a thug.
Basically an all round trouble maker.
But how many of us would love to see him in a Boston shirt,me for one and probably a lot more, if you are truly honest.
Yes as said before you need characters in every team.
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Cannot believe what I'm reading here it's fine to have opinions but base them on real facts let's make a judgement on him after around at least 4-8 games.
To say he may not be up to it based on watching a half is hardly worthy information to us fellow supporters.
When I was a scout many times I turned up at games to watch a player and thought why am I here today?? Only to go back another 3 times to watch him be a totally different player.
So as fans let's make judgement in a few weeks time.
I wish him well.
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We all don't like Tom Denton,he cheats he plays the ref,he is a bully and sometimes a thug.
Basically an all round trouble maker.
But how many of us would love to see him in a Boston shirt,me for one and probably a lot more, if you are truly honest.
Yes as said before you need characters in every team.
not Denton.
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We all don't like Tom Denton,he cheats he plays the ref,he is a bully and sometimes a thug.
Basically an all round trouble maker.
But how many of us would love to see him in a Boston shirt,me for one and probably a lot more, if you are truly honest.
Yes as said before you need characters in every team.
Denton ..... no thanks ! We should never become a hoof ball team to suit one player. BUFC have always had a history of playing good attractive football on the ground.
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Last time Denton played against us he scored a cracking goal, you can't deny that.
Anyway it's just my opinion.
I am sure Brodie will be awesome and I can't wait to see him and Greg together when he his fit again.
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BUFC have always had a history of playing good attractive football on the ground.
Have we?? In recent seasons we played nice football under Tommy Taylor and Jason Lee - neither won promotion. We always played with either Danny Davidson or Mikael Suarez under Scott and Hurst - we got promoted.
Football was atrocious under Drury. Under Dennis, we had mixed tactics throughout. Even under Murray, we utilised Gregg's strengths up top... might have to change now though, unless Brodie proves his worth as a target man.
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Denton ..... no thanks ! We should never become a hoof ball team to suit one player. BUFC have always had a history of playing good attractive football on the ground.
Have we? Maybe before my time, but certainly not in the last 25 years...
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Really folks ?? Under Scott and Hurst even when we had the likes of DD, we still worked the ball around well and didn't just hoof it up top. Maybe its just me that has noticed the fantastic wing play for instance, or playing it out from the back etc. And i don't think that we can compare the likes of DD to Denton, totally different styles.
It's all about opinions, people read games differently, but i certainly don't think we have been a hoof ball team. And when we have done this, it ends with the crowd shouting 'keep it down'.
Each to their own on the opinions though.
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Really folks ?? Under Scott and Hurst even when we had the likes of DD, we still worked the ball around well and didn't just hoof it up top. Maybe its just me that has noticed the fantastic wing play for instance, or playing it out from the back etc. And i don't think that we can compare the likes of DD to Denton, totally different styles.
It's all about opinions, people read games differently, but i certainly don't think we have been a hoof ball team. And when we have done this, it ends with the crowd shouting 'keep it down'.
Each to their own on the opinions though.
I can see your point as far as playing it up to a big man to play off when you are under pressure. Then when able play to your strengths with wing play and hard work in the middle. As we did under Scott and Hurst
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I am beginning to think that, Scott and Hurst probably had one the best teams we have seen in many years.
I do wonder if they had both stayed with us,what we might have achieved.
Do agree with many on here that Hurst was the tactical master and Scott was the enforcer.
Looking to the future though,I sure Adam will build an awesome team here,and achieve great things with them.
I am genuinely looking forward to next season, just seems very different around the club.
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I am beginning to think that, Scott and Hurst probably had one the best teams we have seen in many years.
I do wonder if they had both stayed with us,what we might have achieved.
Do agree with many on here that Hurst was the tactical master and Scott was the enforcer.
Looking to the future though,I sure Adam will build an awesome team here,and achieve great things with them.
I am genuinely looking forward to next season, just seems very different around the club.
Paul & Rob were able the bring in almost a full team of proven Uni League play-off candidates assembled by their ex-boss David Holdsworth at Ilkeston . Their only outstanding find I can recall is Shane Pearson , but in some quarters this is disputed saying that Shane was recommended to the club by Steve Welch . Sadly they failed to retain Ricky Miller from the previous season .
I may have miss some but the outstanding players in their 2 years were Pearson , Newsham , Church , Sleath , McKeawon
In Green,s time again I may have overlooked some but the outstanding signings I recall are , Ricky Miller , Southwell , Gregg Smith , Steer , Felix , Mills , Agnew, Rollins , Marrs , Richards , Stryjeck , Ravos and Dixon .
I recall 3 of S&H players going to play at a higher level , but church,s was short lived .
I recall 9 from the Greene squads going on to play at an higher level .
Paul "the tactical master " ? Try that comment on Mariners fans Fishy Forum .
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Certainly Pidge missed off the list of Dennis Greene's memorable players.
For me last season's teams was better than Scott and Hurst's.
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Karl Hawley and Alex Simmons (loan) added to the squad for todays game.
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But yes I agree DG did sign some decent players, but did he win us promotion with any of them.
I would have put money on S&H achieving another promotion if they had stayed.
Coming close is not classed as winning.
Please define a great player,is it one that achieves or one that comes close but never wins anything for themselves or as a team.
We have only won one promotion and couple of cups under David Newton's tenure, and if my memory serves me right,wasn't that with S&H in charge.
:P
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But yes I agree DG did sign some decent players, but did he win us promotion with any of them.
I would have put money on S&H achieving another promotion if they had stayed.
Coming close is not classed as winning.
Please define a great player,is it one that achieves or one that comes close but never wins anything for themselves or as a team.
We have only won one promotion and couple of cups under David Newton's tenure, and if my memory serves me right,wasn't that with S&H in charge.
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S & H as I said inherited a team that had made the UNI play-offs , had a budget that would allow them to make improvements to team , yet only gained promotion through extra time play off win . What good players did they recruit ?
With a smaller budget and a more competitive league I would have doubts about them gaining promotion at the present time .
I guess you have not canvassed opinion on The Fishy regarding Paul,s tactical know how
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REALLY hope Karl Hawley still has the legs ..and becomes a good coach .
Welcome to Simmons as well .
So Xmas tree today ?
With mid /attack being
FITZ CLARKE MARSHALL
SIMMONS ROLLINS
BRODSKI
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Didn't Paul Hurst get the FISHY promoted too, must have done it without tactics.
Not another promotion whilst he was in charge of a team, must be pure luck.
Grimsby fans that I shared a train with from Nott's County certainly were full of praise for his efforts,and putting them back in the football league, better I think to hear it from the horses mouth.
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Oh fairplay to GHM .he's been pubbing ;)
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Enjoy the banter Ted, only wish I could be pubbing too, but got a heavy cold.
worst I have had in years.
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Didn't Paul Hurst get the FISHY promoted too, must have done it without tactics.
Not another promotion whilst he was in charge of a team, must be pure luck.
Grimsby fans that I shared a train with from Nott's County certainly were full of praise for his efforts,and putting them back in the football league, better I think to hear it from the horses mouth.
Maybe the fans on the train was right and the fans on Fishy wrong .
Not been to Grimsby for years , the only nice thing when going there is the drive back through Keal , if you avoid the bugs :)
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I remember fans moaning once under Scott and Hurst because we made a 33 pass move starting with our keeper, they wasnt moaning at the end of it when the ball hit the net,
Some see what they want to see but with most managers I seen decent football
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Yes GHM Grimsby is not the best of places. But I always find them friendly.
They beat Notts Country today, I am fearing for county now, never been out of the football league,but looking like it might happen now.
The oldest club in the world.
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Yes GHM Grimsby is not the best of places. But I always find them friendly.
They beat Notts Country today, I am fearing for county now, never been out of the football league,but looking like it might happen now.
The oldest club in the world.
I think Forest have a transfer embargo too , certainly big financial problems .
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It is a real shame both County and Forrest are in this mess, two clubs with massive history's.
County was sold a couple of weeks ago, but the new owner has uncovered more outstanding debt's, that Ray True had hidden.
They are on an embargo too.
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How did Brodie play yesterday ?
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Yes GHM Grimsby is not the best of places. But I always find them friendly.
They beat Notts Country today, I am fearing for county now, never been out of the football league,but looking like it might happen now.
The oldest club in the world.
could it be said that Nottingham cannot support 2 clubs at league level?
if this is the case and you scale it down could it be said Boston cannot support 2 clubs on the pyramid ?
(tin hat on ..ready for replies :) )
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How did Brodie play yesterday ?
Is he looking match sharp ?
TEP
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typical brodie. gave loads of fouls away and that will never change. got right in the officials face and that of the opposition too. got booked after about 25 minutes for about his sixth foul but after that calmed down and go on with his game
his stinger of a free kick was only parried by their keeper for the first goal and all in all he gave us an excellent focal point for building attacks and for runners to get past and run off
put a good shift in chasing down too. based on yesterday i'd say a decent signing. his know how and general football intelligence will come into its own against the better teams i think
the loanee from lincoln showed flashes too and we now have the best motivator of all at the club- namely COMPETITION FOR PLACES. there is nothing like knowing you have to produce 8/10 week in week out to keep your place to focus the mind
the back 5 were once more very solid looking. since AM came in this is clearly a focus and we are shipping fewer goals now which is great to see. for me the big decision for next week is do we replace brown with robinson? decisions decisions........ who'd be a manager eh?
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How did Brodie play yesterday ?
Is he looking match sharp ?
TEP
I do think Nottingham is bog enough to support two league clubs,based on population size, many fans fo travel from outside of the city to watch them both.
I do think you have a point about Boston though,just based on population.
Hopefully in the future we might see some of our eastern European friends come and watch our Boston teams, I know that they like there football very much,and do ask me about Boston on regular basis.
An untapped market there I think.
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Thanks Tom and Jerry - useful report that.
TEP
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the loanee from lincoln showed flashes too and we now have the best motivator of all at the club- namely COMPETITION FOR PLACES. there is nothing like knowing you have to produce 8/10 week in week out to keep your place to focus the mind
You're so right about competition for places - even Waide Fairhurst scored yesterday!
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Two more goals for Fairhurst last night. That's three goals from two apps for Frickley - marginally better than his record for us!
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In my opinion,for what its worth,this is a dreadful post and should be deleted immediately...I'm all for free speech etc and I do respect your opinions and comments but for goodness sake surely a true BUFC would never post negative stuff like this....Unless you went to Bradford you've never seen him play for BUFC,people change and move on...lets all get behind our excellent new manager and embrace what he is trying to do for the club on what I expect is a shoestring budget....{PLEASE}
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In my opinion,for what its worth,this is a dreadful post and should be deleted immediately...I'm all for free speech etc and I do respect your opinions and comments but for goodness sake surely a true BUFC would never post negative stuff like this....Unless you went to Bradford you've never seen him play for BUFC,people change and move on...lets all get behind our excellent new manager and embrace what he is trying to do for the club on what I expect is a shoestring budget....{PLEASE}
All players at any level have shortcomings and these will be picked up by some fans , pleasing to see those pointing out RB weaknesses also observe his assets , mostly good balanced genuine views . keep it going .
Be thankful and reflect that no longer do we get abusive posts that amounted to no more than an hate campaign against the manager who was having a decent run of success .
Well done to Chestnuts again for a great appointment . I think we will see a mainly midlands based team evolve leaving the likes of Halifax , Harrogate etc to compete for the northern based players .
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Just imagine if we'd signed Ched Evans...
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Well Ched Evans would be huge controversy for us.
I don't think we would be brave enough to field him.
He has served hos time though and everyone deserves a new start.
Be gentle with your replies please lol 😁
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In the not so distant past we did sign someone who had been a naughty boy, but for the life of me I can't remember his name. :-[
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In the not so distant past we did sign someone who had been a naughty boy, but for the life of me I can't remember his name. :-[
Rob Wesley?
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Timms
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In the not so distant past we did sign someone who had been a naughty boy, but for the life of me I can't remember his name. :-[
Rob Wesley?
Stabbed horses
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They were worrying the sheep
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Fairhurst has scored again today...
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colindavy seems to see more in half a game than others do in full matches. .......
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colindavy seems to see more in half a game than others do in full matches. .......
I was one who said give the bloke a chance, but many more performances like yesterday, and I might be forced to apologise to colindavy. His observations, albeit brief ones, rang true yesterday. At the same time, Gregg Smith is an exceptional find, and it would be difficult for anyone to measure up. And Waide failed to score at Frickley this weekend!
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colindavy seems to see more in half a game than others do in full matches. .......
See on the OS Murray is seeking a performance analyst . needs to look no further than colindavy . :)
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Contract terminated by the club this morning.
That was quicker than we all thought!!
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Contract terminated by the club this morning.
That was quicker than we all thought!!
it would seem we owe an apology and maybe you can see you you need to in half a game! so, sorry to Colin Davy from me.
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I always knew Colin had more about him ;) 15 to 1 contestant :D
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Why sign him when it was known just what he was like though ? I know for a fact that had the previous manager made this signing, all hell would have broke loose by now. Seemed a panic buy at the time, but like other fans, i am always willing to give the benefit of the doubt with any player or manager.
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Why sign him when it was known just what he was like though ?
Because for all of his traits, he is still a goalscorer - and we needed a striker. It's not like we handed out a 3 year deal straight up. Had it worked out, he'd be here next season as well.
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Why sign him when it was known just what he was like though ?
Because for all of his traits, he is still a goalscorer - and we needed a striker. It's not like we handed out a 3 year deal straight up. Had it worked out, he'd be here next season as well.
It was the same with Timms as well, had proven he is a goalkeeper yet with so much previous, why did we even go close there. Of course, there is the debate of 'a leopard cannot changes it spots' & the counter of 'give people a second chance' but with track records such as both of these guys it does seem like we should have avoided both. I do agree, we still need a proven goalscorer but at this stage of the season finding any is going to be a hard task. Positive here is that at least he got rid quick rather than having someone that could quite possibly have a negative impact in the dressing room, and the team seems to be improving steadily.
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Sometimes it just works - Garner was unwanted at Cambridge and that didn't turn out badly!
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In my humble opinion it was absolutely the right decision to take a punt on him. The guy clearly has talent as his previous record shows, along with the big fee's paid for his services in the past. At 29, I think most people would think he still has time to prove it. For whatever reason though, his career has gone off the rails in recent years. There are numerous examples in the past of players not performing who have come to a new club and given themselves a new lease of life. Conversely there are plenty for whom it hasn't worked out and they've nose dived into oblivion. I personally see Brodie as falling sadly into the latter case, a player with bags of potential when he was younger, but now tragically unable to cut it in the Conference North.
It hasn't worked out and the manager has acted decisively for which he deserves credit. However, with all that previous potential I don't think you could blame AM for taking a punt on him in the hope of him rediscovering some of his past form. And for what it's worth, just because Colin Davy has been proven right in this case, it doesn't make him correct in judging a player based on watching him for 45 minutes!
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Notice that although the player profile section on the OS has been updated recently Brodie still appears on it . Anyone know the reason?
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Has Mr Brodie actually gone? Do BUFC still hold his registration? Is he playing for another club under dual registration?
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It's possible that he has contested his sacking, via employment tribunal. He cannot play for anyone else if he is still contracted to us, unless we loan him out.
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It's possible that he has contested his sacking, via employment tribunal. He cannot play for anyone else if he is still contracted to us, unless we loan him out.
Sounds as though it will cost either way .
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Brodie was removed from the OS site a couple of days ago .
Unused sub for Southport yesterday .
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I suppose it will be down to if he is in breech of his contract or are BUFC.
I know that in normal working life you can't claim unfair dismal until you have worked for them for a minimum of 2 years.
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From what I've heard, he was refusing to train because he felt he had an injury. However, this injury was not found by the medical department, therefore BUFC were insisting he turned up (and I guess he didn't).
Not sure how true this is.