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Title: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: The Third Twin on December 06, 2016, 08:35:50 PM
It's taken 37 minutes for Andrew Simpson from Cheshire (tweeting on tonight's Witton cup tie) to form this opinion. Why has it taken 23 matches for us to still be working out if we have anyone fit enough to pull on the shirt at the back, and what's the best combination? Time for the senior players to stand up and put a shift in. And I include EVERY one of them in that comment.
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Post by: green hats mate on December 06, 2016, 08:40:29 PM
It's taken 37 minutes for Andrew Simpson from Cheshire (tweeting on tonight's Witton cup tie) to form this opinion. Why has it taken 23 matches for us to still be working out if we have anyone fit enough to pull on the shirt at the back, and what's the best combination? Time for the senior players to stand up and put a shift in. And I include EVERY one of them in that comment.

Shift them out !!
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Post by: mike brolly boots on December 06, 2016, 08:40:53 PM
Yeah but you just know they will tweet sorry guys we go again Saturday
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: The Third Twin on December 06, 2016, 08:43:50 PM
It's taken 37 minutes for Andrew Simpson from Cheshire (tweeting on tonight's Witton cup tie) to form this opinion. Why has it taken 23 matches for us to still be working out if we have anyone fit enough to pull on the shirt at the back, and what's the best combination? Time for the senior players to stand up and put a shift in. And I include EVERY one of them in that comment.

Shift them out !!
his follow-up comment...."Witton could score as many as they want tonight".....I almost expected it at Fylde, but this is completely unacceptable, what level have we dropped to?
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: green hats mate on December 06, 2016, 08:45:28 PM
It's taken 37 minutes for Andrew Simpson from Cheshire (tweeting on tonight's Witton cup tie) to form this opinion. Why has it taken 23 matches for us to still be working out if we have anyone fit enough to pull on the shirt at the back, and what's the best combination? Time for the senior players to stand up and put a shift in. And I include EVERY one of them in that comment.

Shift them out !!
his follow-up comment...."Witton could score as many as they want tonight".....I almost expected it at Fylde, but this is completely unacceptable, what level have we dropped to?



Rock bottom
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Post by: madhos on December 06, 2016, 08:45:44 PM
Shambles!!!
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Post by: Ernie100 on December 06, 2016, 09:25:36 PM
No wonder Greeny jumped ship.
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Post by: The Third Twin on December 06, 2016, 09:27:21 PM
No wonder Greeny jumped ship.
it's about the only thing he got right in the last few weeks.
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: wismo on December 06, 2016, 09:34:44 PM
A complete shambles! Don't know why we have got so many poor players this season. Dennis had a high turnover of players but most were decent. Is the the financies or lack of that have dictated the dross we have got. The Sunderland link dried up and we end up getting York City reserves.
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Post by: The Third Twin on December 06, 2016, 09:38:43 PM
And as a parting tweeted gift from the same chap whilst entering injury time...."Boston are like a parody of a football team. Confidence obviously shot, but some of the defensive gaffs are breath-taking". Time to listen to others, even if we disagree between ourselves.
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Post by: mike brolly boots on December 06, 2016, 09:39:57 PM
Too many loan players who don't give a toss they know they will be going back to there parent clubs soon
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Post by: oxo on December 06, 2016, 09:48:28 PM
Thank goodness I didn't go tonight the embarrassment from 150 miles away is bad enough. Well we will have a new manager soon who will have to get rid of the Greene dross but I am afraid the board will have to provide him with funds just to save us from relegation. Thanks once again Greene you useless prat.
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Post by: green hats mate on December 06, 2016, 09:49:38 PM
Too many loan players who don't give a toss they know they will be going back to there parent clubs soon

It,s not only the loan players Mike .
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Post by: kingofnaves on December 06, 2016, 09:52:24 PM
But the apologolists will still say how good he was! The clown is saying Fairhurst is not good enough on twitter! Who signed him????
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: green hats mate on December 06, 2016, 09:58:20 PM
But the apologolists will still say how good he was! The clown is saying Fairhurst is not good enough on twitter! Who signed him????

He left us a load of dross ,  but you can,t take away his record .    Time will tell if overachieved for 3 years , or lost the plot at the end .
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Post by: mike brolly boots on December 06, 2016, 10:11:20 PM
He was good and in my own opinion should still be there to sort it . I think his major downfall was not seeming able to organise a defence and his social media skills , but his gone and the next appointment needs to be spot on Dave Frecklington or Martin Drury for me
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Post by: Artemis on December 06, 2016, 10:12:27 PM
Well it's just as well we lost tonight because with our current defence we would have got hammered at home against Chester.  The defence has been woeful since the start of the season but never got sorted.   Sack the lot of them as they aren't doing what they are paid to do.
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: green hats mate on December 06, 2016, 10:18:12 PM
He was good and in my own opinion should still be there to sort it . I think his major downfall was not seeming able to organise a defence and his social media skills , but his gone and the next appointment needs to be spot on Dave Frecklington or Martin Drury for me

I think our defence is about the same quality as the one Drury left at BPA when he got sacked .
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: oxo on December 06, 2016, 10:20:41 PM
He was good and in my own opinion should still be there to sort it . I think his major downfall was not seeming able to organise a defence and his social media skills , but his gone and the next appointment needs to be spot on Dave Frecklington or Martin Drury for me


You are joking "should still be there" The reason he isn't is because he didn't have a clue how to sort it out. What the hell has social media skills got to do with sorting a shambles out on the football field? For goodness sake admit it he had lost the plot and didn't have it in him to turn things around or the players to do it, HIS PLAYERS.
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: The Third Twin on December 06, 2016, 10:22:35 PM
But the apologolists will still say how good he was! The clown is saying Fairhurst is not good enough on twitter! Who signed him????

He left us a load of dross ,  but you can,t take away his record .    Time will tell if overachieved for 3 years , or lost the plot at the end .
my current opinion is he did both. Got a decent team within a tight budget to do good things for 3 years, but April 2016 is where that stopped. Lost the plot after Ferriby p!ay-off.
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Post by: father Ted on December 06, 2016, 10:25:29 PM
I wonder if Greg Fee is a serious candidate ..seen again tonight . .
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Post by: mike brolly boots on December 06, 2016, 10:28:15 PM
Like I said that's just my opinion to which I'm entitled just like are yours OXO
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: green hats mate on December 06, 2016, 10:32:28 PM
In  our haste to criticise DG we have overlooked the men on the pitch tonight , from what you picked up from radio it appears many treated the match as a jogging session .  Daylight robbery ,   sorry for Chestnuts and Bunny .
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Post by: Oops on December 06, 2016, 10:43:00 PM
Whoever gets the job will need a lot of support from the supporters. Let's face it, anyone prepared to take on the task of saving BUFC from relegation will either be very brave or very confident he can do the job.
Are we in the middle of a DG mid life crisis legacy.
What sort of person tweets that's Fairhurst should be taken off because he's not good enough when, as someone else has posted, he signed that player in the first place and continued to use him despite the fact that nearly everyone in the ground could see he was rubbish from day 1.
Did DG deliberately sign such a lot of not up to standard players knowing he would be leaving and wanted to leave the club in the s****.
Just wondering, that's all.
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Post by: The Third Twin on December 06, 2016, 10:47:24 PM
In  our haste to criticise DG we have overlooked the men on the pitch tonight , from what you picked up from radio it appears many treated the match as a jogging session .  Daylight robbery ,   sorry for Chestnuts and Bunny .
yet these are still Dennis' players, and therefore the criticism still more than partially lies there. OK, so he wasn't at the helm tonight, but he still must shoulder a huge amount if the blame, so, with apologies GHM, Bunny has been left with a temporary bum steer. None of it his fault, he's just mopping up the rubbish that's been left for him by a chap I am still going to level the blame at.
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: Oops on December 06, 2016, 10:56:08 PM
What is interesting is how everyone seems to be singing from the same hymn sheet now that the team is really in the kak. Even GHM hasn't moaned yet about ANYONE thinking differently to him. Perhaps that's because we are all paddling the same boat.
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Post by: father Ted on December 06, 2016, 11:01:19 PM
Yea I,ll say it first,,Up the creek !
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: The Third Twin on December 06, 2016, 11:03:30 PM
What is interesting is how everyone seems to be singing from the same hymn sheet now that the team is really in the kak. Even GHM hasn't moaned yet about ANYONE thinking differently to him. Perhaps that's because we are all paddling the same boat.
I've never changed my stance, but took the opinion that the Chestnuts know best, even though I would have hasd Dennis go a year ago. I was proven wrong last season, but where even a tiny glimmer of hope lies now is beyond me. We need a manager with the nads to grab the team where it hurts, shake them up, get rid if the dross, and find some way of turning a very average bunch into a squad who can at least survive the drag into the bottom three. I'm currently clinging to the hope that there were 3 teams worse than us, but I'm not sure there are.
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Post by: father Ted on December 06, 2016, 11:14:42 PM
Assuming a new mgmt. team is up and running by Xmas , that leaves 4 interesting ? months to concentrate on the League  ???
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Post by: The Third Twin on December 06, 2016, 11:29:27 PM
Assuming a new mgmt. team is up and running by Xmas , that leaves 4 interesting ? months to concentrate on the League  ???
let's hope it's a case of a happy new year!
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on December 07, 2016, 08:01:41 AM
DG said 'my fault' when talking about the current squad on Twitter last night.

Well, yes. I honestly think that the mass post-Ferriby exodus was simply too much for him to fix, especially as his heart didn't really seem in it. Many of us thought as much over the summer, so it's no great surprise the season has unravelled so spectacularly.
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: joshb on December 07, 2016, 08:06:11 AM
I went to that shambles. In s season of new lows, we've crawled under the lower bar again. Shameful how players couldn't pass, win headers, track runners and win 50/50s after they got one back.
We were a car crash again all night at the back, had they had a prolific striker in the 2nd half especially,  they would've racked up eight or nine. We missed a sitter at the back post and their keeper made one comfortable save all night.
Embarrassing.
Can only wish them well in Rd 1 but imagine they'll be in for a shock at the gulf in level between us and chester
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: Tash on December 07, 2016, 08:09:32 AM
Whoever gets the job will need a lot of support from the supporters. Let's face it, anyone prepared to take on the task of saving BUFC from relegation will either be very brave or very confident he can do the job.
Are we in the middle of a DG mid life crisis legacy.
What sort of person tweets that's Fairhurst should be taken off because he's not good enough when, as someone else has posted, he signed that player in the first place and continued to use him despite the fact that nearly everyone in the ground could see he was rubbish from day 1.
Did DG deliberately sign such a lot of not up to standard players knowing he would be leaving and wanted to leave the club in the s****.
Just wondering, that's all.

He actually said he was not fit so should be taken off.
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Post by: Mick lawson on December 07, 2016, 10:13:31 AM
I went to that shambles. In s season of new lows, we've crawled under the lower bar again. Shameful how players couldn't pass, win headers, track runners and win 50/50s after they got one back.
We were a car crash again all night at the back, had they had a prolific striker in the 2nd half especially,  they would've racked up eight or nine. We missed a sitter at the back post and their keeper made one comfortable save all night.
Embarrassing.
Can only wish them well in Rd 1 but imagine they'll be in for a shock at the gulf in level between us and chester
I was at the game last night and it has taken me till now to try to put into words what happens. We started like a team fired up ready to prove people wrong and got 2 good goals. Then one silly foul and they score and the game totally changed they grew in confidence and our defence looked like what we all know it is a group of people low in confidence and unable to do the simple things. On the way home we all agreed we really are in desperate trouble on the pitch and the new manager is going to have to be able to get rid of the players we have and bring in a whole new defence or I fear relegation. Only my honest opinion of the game some may see it differently I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by: Shaun G on December 07, 2016, 10:15:46 AM
He was good and in my own opinion should still be there to sort it . I think his major downfall was not seeming able to organise a defence and his social media skills , but his gone and the next appointment needs to be spot on Dave Frecklington or Martin Drury for me

I think our defence is about the same quality as the one Drury left at BPA when he got sacked .

I think you will find that Martin drury defence at Bpa was certainly not the issue, I believe they were defensively sound about 5th best in the league. Didn't score enough goals and drew too many games!!
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: green hats mate on December 07, 2016, 11:35:25 AM
In  our haste to criticise DG we have overlooked the men on the pitch tonight , from what you picked up from radio it appears many treated the match as a jogging session .  Daylight robbery ,   sorry for Chestnuts and Bunny .
yet these are still Dennis' players, and therefore the criticism still more than partially lies there. OK, so he wasn't at the helm tonight, but he still must shoulder a huge amount if the blame, so, with apologies GHM, Bunny has been left with a temporary bum steer. None of it his fault, he's just mopping up the rubbish that's been left for him by a chap I am still going to level the blame at.

No need to apologise TTT . my point was we was all having a go at DG and it is true what you say  ,  when in fact by all reports the players just did not turn up and do a fair nights graft .  Green,s gone , if they had issues with him that's no excuse now ,  their duty is to the club who pay them . They grossly let the club and fans down .
Getting endless posts now but while on the DG subject,  I was insistent he was the man when others predicted otherwise .  looking at the league tables for the last three seasons I think I have been vindicated .  Yes I agree now he must go .   How many who predicted failure for DG have admitted they were wrong and their abusive posts were unjustified ?
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Post by: Oops on December 07, 2016, 11:51:12 AM
There you go again GHM. You just can't help having a dig at other posters on here can you. Others criticise the football side and you criticise the posters. No wonder people stop contributing.
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Post by: green hats mate on December 07, 2016, 12:07:52 PM
What is interesting is how everyone seems to be singing from the same hymn sheet now that the team is really in the kak. Even GHM hasn't moaned yet about ANYONE thinking differently to him. Perhaps that's because we are all paddling the same boat.

The majority of fans had been singing from the same hymn sheet the last three seasons ,  only a minority underestimated Greene .

I have submitted posts recently trying to explaining the drawbacks to managing BUFC as opposed to managing most the other teams in our league .  Some have rushed on the keyboard without absorbing my points claiming I was defending DG .   Well yes I was , but in most my posts I made it clear the new manager would be confronted with the same problems .  Sadly I fear that fans will be having to be reminded with future managers .    Still many fans believe that BUFC is still a top team in this league  , not so , sadly other clubs for various reasons have overtook us and make it difficult to compete.
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Post by: green hats mate on December 07, 2016, 12:39:20 PM
There you go again GHM. You just can't help having a dig at other posters on here can you. Others criticise the football side and you criticise the posters. No wonder people stop contributing.

Your 3rd post !!!!welcome to the Patter Oops,  good to see you enjoying contributing to the Patter .

Many posters do not fit your description ,  yes a few do come on with the sole purpose of moaning , and you mostly find these object to a suggestion that they may be wrong .
Most come on to express an opinion which some agree with and some don,t  ,  its called debate  and is a usually conducted in a civilised manner .  Certainly if every one agreed with each other it would be pointless having a discussion forum .

Some people disagree with we and others agree with me which is par for the course so I am happy .

Being new I suggest you go back in the Patter archives before passing judgement .  hope you note that it was recommended by one poster that a contribution of mine should be displayed in the club programme every match .
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Post by: Dipdodah on December 07, 2016, 01:36:57 PM
There you go again GHM. You just can't help having a dig at other posters on here can you. Others criticise the football side and you criticise the posters. No wonder people stop contributing.

Your 3rd post !!!!welcome to the Patter Oops,  good to see you enjoying contributing to the Patter .

Many posters do not fit your description ,  yes a few do come on with the sole purpose of moaning , and you mostly find these object to a suggestion that they may be wrong .
Most come on to express an opinion which some agree with and some don,t  ,  its called debate  and is a usually conducted in a civilised manner .  Certainly if every one agreed with each other it would be pointless having a discussion forum .

Some people disagree with we and others agree with me which is par for the course so I am happy .

Being new I suggest you go back in the Patter archives before passing judgement .  hope you note that it was recommended by one poster that a contribution of mine should be displayed in the club programme every match .

Woe betide anyone who has an opinion on this forum GHM.
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Post by: Oops on December 07, 2016, 01:52:34 PM
I'm sure that there are many of your contributions that should be printed out and would then be very useful in many places. It doesn't alter the fact that you just can't help yourself having digs at other posters. Perhaps you should take time to reflect on your old posts and maybe the penny will drop and and you will see what I mean. By the way, I have been reading the stuff put on here for several years now so I don't need to look through any archives to form my opinion that anyone with a different view to yours should shut up.
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Post by: father Ted on December 07, 2016, 02:23:30 PM
 GHM is a robust cove
 I think there's a sense of humour in there some where  ;)
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Post by: Dipdodah on December 07, 2016, 02:37:02 PM
I have known GHM for over forty years.  He tends to speak a lot of sense, as pointed out by FT, some tongue in cheek.

Like myself we cast the line to see what we can hook.

Sad really, we have nothing better to do ;) ;)
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Post by: father Ted on December 07, 2016, 02:50:42 PM
I will say true of anyone posting on an weekday afternoon !
 
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Post by: green hats mate on December 07, 2016, 04:00:18 PM
I'm sure that there are many of your contributions that should be printed out and would then be very useful in many places. It doesn't alter the fact that you just can't help yourself having digs at other posters. Perhaps you should take time to reflect on your old posts and maybe the penny will drop and and you will see what I mean. By the way, I have been reading the stuff put on here for several years now so I don't need to look through any archives to form my opinion that anyone with a different view to yours should shut up.

 Oops ,   , we have so much in common you should have joined years ago . 8)
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Post by: green hats mate on December 07, 2016, 04:14:33 PM
There you go again GHM. You just can't help having a dig at other posters on here can you. Others criticise the football side and you criticise the posters. No wonder people stop contributing.

Don,t think it will be long before a regular comes on and suggests we are twins , so many very similar characteristics. :)
Title: Re: "Pilgrims are an absolute shambles defensively"
Post by: The Third Twin on December 07, 2016, 05:12:04 PM
There you go again GHM. You just can't help having a dig at other posters on here can you. Others criticise the football side and you criticise the posters. No wonder people stop contributing.

Don,t think it will be long before a regular comes on and suggests we are twins , so many very similar characteristics. :)
there can only be so many twins!
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Post by: howmanynames2pick on December 07, 2016, 06:40:56 PM
There you go again GHM. You just can't help having a dig at other posters on here can you. Others criticise the football side and you criticise the posters. No wonder people stop contributing.

Don,t think it will be long before a regular comes on and suggests we are twins , so many very similar characteristics. :)
there can only be so many twins!

Conspiracy theory. ..you're Dens brother who hasn't forgiven him for your lad getting injured....:)
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Post by: The Big M on December 07, 2016, 06:44:38 PM
There you go again GHM. You just can't help having a dig at other posters on here can you. Others criticise the football side and you criticise the posters. No wonder people stop contributing.

Don,t think it will be long before a regular comes on and suggests we are twins , so many very similar characteristics. :)

Ghm is a troll and a bully if you dont agree with him ive fell foul before
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Post by: Ernie100 on December 07, 2016, 06:53:00 PM
There you go again GHM. You just can't help having a dig at other posters on here can you. Others criticise the football side and you criticise the posters. No wonder people stop contributing.

Don,t think it will be long before a regular comes on and suggests we are twins , so many very similar characteristics. :)
there can only be so many twins!

Quintuplets gives you 10 sets of twins ;D
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Post by: howmanynames2pick on December 07, 2016, 07:16:14 PM


Ghm is a troll and a bully if you dont agree with him ive fell foul before
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He certainly hasn't got purple hair.
I've always found him pleasant.....
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Post by: The Big M on December 07, 2016, 07:20:33 PM
Very amusing
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Post by: green hats mate on December 07, 2016, 08:24:13 PM
There you go again GHM. You just can't help having a dig at other posters on here can you. Others criticise the football side and you criticise the posters. No wonder people stop contributing.

Don,t think it will be long before a regular comes on and suggests we are twins , so many very similar characteristics. :)

Ghm is a troll and a bully if you dont agree with him ive fell foul before

Think you maybe referring to the Felix Kaine thread Big  M  ,  seemed a typical minor skirmish , a few questioned each others figures ,  I did not consider those who question my posts bullys .   muck in M , give as good as what you get .

   A new member joined about 10 o,clock last night ,  came on at 7.30 this morning with his first post , and has followed up with 4 more since .    One post discussed football the other 4  attacking me for  alleged  non-football related  posts (ironic :).  Its the jokers that make it good clean fun .   Hope he does,nt run out of ideas first day .!!!
  Looking forward to his trolling tomorrow .   I wonder who this guy can be  :police:
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Post by: Burgh Boy on December 07, 2016, 10:14:53 PM
Only consolation is that last night's fiasco was just a FA Trophy game, which, to be frank, is a millstone around the neck of most clubs and a competition we won't really benefit from being in. BUFC's current on-field priority is to concentrate on what is now appearing a battle against relegation (although we still do have a slim mathematical chance of making the play offs!). Sadly, the FA Trophy would only be a distraction from that task.