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Title: Gr-exit
Post by: The Third Twin on November 28, 2016, 07:03:52 PM
Bunny in charge tomorrow
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: jelangley on November 28, 2016, 07:12:22 PM
Amazed and really annoyed that he didnt have the balls to see it through, obviously cost the club more now to pay him off, yes a difficult season but he could of turned it around.  Really disapointed, thought he was better than this.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: kingofnaves on November 28, 2016, 07:20:23 PM
Merry Christmas everybody let's get behind Bunny
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: doc on November 28, 2016, 07:35:05 PM
Would have liked him to stay. All is not lost though as there are some great people on this site who know how to manage much better than him - or so they keep saying - go expect alot of applications arriving on DN door mat
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on November 28, 2016, 07:36:35 PM
Let's get the Main Stand ranter from a few weeks ago to run the team:)
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: green hats mate on November 28, 2016, 07:39:14 PM
Not a great surprise , after the abuse Dennis has took from a small number of fans it is understandable that he choose a time to suit himself to leave .   I suspect he will get fixed up with a new position quickly .

I wish Bunny all the best and he will get the backing of all fans initially , we are low on numbers of players of required ability , lets hope all the better one,s stick with us as often they follow the departing manager .

Feel for David Newton ,  can,t see applications flooding in with a CV to match the one that Greene takes away with him .

Great opportunity for those who have been calling for Greenes head to nominate a candidate , surely they have got ideas .   Any thoughts on players you would like the new manager to bring in .?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: kingofnaves on November 28, 2016, 07:43:36 PM
Abuse he started all himself.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Lee Newell on November 28, 2016, 07:54:23 PM
A real shame this, thought everything was sorted out a few weeks ago after the Halifax match.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: The Big M on November 28, 2016, 07:55:32 PM
Abuse he started all himself.

Agreed
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on November 28, 2016, 07:58:28 PM
What's changed since the positive talks a few weeks ago ?

The Premier League wannabes will love this - as changing the manager is always the right answer. Just look how well Man Utd have done since firing Moyes.

Fear the worst for the season now. I thought under DG we would achieve mid table this season. I think we'll be lucky to avoid relegation now.

Oh dear.


TEP
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: mike brolly boots on November 28, 2016, 08:11:54 PM
What's changed since the positive talks a few weeks ago ?

The Premier League wannabes will love this - as changing the manager is always the right answer. Just look how well Man Utd have done since firing Moyes.

Fear the worst for the season now. I thought under DG we would achieve mid table this season. I think we'll be lucky to avoid relegation now.

Oh dear.

I agree , wouldn't surprise me if he's managing a national league side soon , should be careful what you wish for . Whoever the new manager is he will no doubt get stick after the first few games. He leaves with one of the best records as a manager here for years

TEP
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: green hats mate on November 28, 2016, 08:15:03 PM
What's changed since the positive talks a few weeks ago ?

The Premier League wannabes will love this - as changing the manager is always the right answer. Just look how well Man Utd have done since firing Moyes.

Fear the worst for the season now. I thought under DG we would achieve mid table this season. I think we'll be lucky to avoid relegation now.

Oh dear.


TEP

It is difficult to see how we can obtain a manager to attract the players of the quality Dennis Greene did ,
victim of his own success really with teams snapping up our best players at the end of last season .
Also hindered by appalling luck with injuries  .   I share your pessimism TEP .

Often when a new manager comes in he gets an initial upturn in form , hopefully this will happen and we get enough points on the board to avoid relegation .    The future  :'(
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Mick lawson on November 28, 2016, 08:25:13 PM
What's changed since the positive talks a few weeks ago ?

The Premier League wannabes will love this - as changing the manager is always the right answer. Just look how well Man Utd have done since firing Moyes.

Fear the worst for the season now. I thought under DG we would achieve mid table this season. I think we'll be lucky to avoid relegation now.

Oh dear.


TEP
nice to see you are giving bunny your full backing saying you fear for the season
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: green hats mate on November 28, 2016, 08:33:18 PM
What's changed since the positive talks a few weeks ago ?

The Premier League wannabes will love this - as changing the manager is always the right answer. Just look how well Man Utd have done since firing Moyes.

Fear the worst for the season now. I thought under DG we would achieve mid table this season. I think we'll be lucky to avoid relegation now.

Oh dear.


TEP
nice to see you are giving bunny your full backing saying you fear for the season

Maybe his comment will help to take the pressure off Bunny .

My guess is that it will be a present long serving  Con North manager who will be losing sleep tonight .
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: kingofnaves on November 28, 2016, 08:38:14 PM
Good players not seen in the present squad GHM ? Name a decent player Den has in that team?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on November 28, 2016, 08:42:42 PM
Mick,

I may be wrong but Bunce appears to lack experience playing and managing at this level and has no positive track record as a number one - hence my view.

I really hope he does succeed for however long he is in charge.

TEP
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Pilgrim86 on November 28, 2016, 08:44:03 PM
Good players not seen in the present squad GHM ? Name a decent player Den has in that team?

Gordon, Brown, Agnew, Marshall, Roberts, Rollins, Smith
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Pilgrim86 on November 28, 2016, 08:44:27 PM
Mick,

I may be wrong but Bunce appears to lack experience playing and managing at this level and has no positive track record as a number one - hence my view.

I really hope he does succeed for however long he is in charge.

TEP

I think Bunny has too much of a job in the Community/Youth side...
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: leicester pilgrim on November 28, 2016, 08:50:16 PM
Discussing other managers whilst Dennis was still in post was always a bit disrespectful in my opinion. Now he's gone that changes. I wonder if Rob Scott has any aspirations to manage on his own? He may feel he has unfinished business at Boston. Additionally, I wonder how low Neil Redfearn would drop to get himself back into management?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: green hats mate on November 28, 2016, 08:50:38 PM
Good players not seen in the present squad GHM ? Name a decent player Den has in that team?

Many teams would like Gregg Smith ,  Jay Rollins and Grant Roberts for starters , there you are I,ve named three in response to your request a few minutes ago .

Now you and your pals have been calling for DG to be dismissed for ages ,  surely you all have ideas on who to replace him with after all this time .   give us a few names . Or don,t any of you think that far ahead ?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: green hats mate on November 28, 2016, 09:01:37 PM
Discussing other managers whilst Dennis was still in post was always a bit disrespectful in my opinion. Now he's gone that changes. I wonder if Rob Scott has any aspirations to manage on his own? He may feel he has unfinished business at Boston. Additionally, I wonder how low Neil Redfearn would drop to get himself back into management?

Don,t know how low Neil would drop down the leagues LP but it was reported in the press a few weeks ago that he lost interest in the Oldham job when he was told it was "only" £50k a year .  If you look up his management record it is very difficult to find a worse one .
I think Rob Scott would appeal to many fans .
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: mike brolly boots on November 28, 2016, 09:04:59 PM
Need someone with a good track record in conference north who's available ? Ah yeah Dennis Greene 🙈
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: garry@ on November 28, 2016, 09:23:23 PM
I said last time DG left that I would like Rob Scott back, this was in reply to the usual GHM posts that he's started again zzzzz

I would however like to see Bunny do well and hopefully get some good results after all he does do most of the organising during the game?
But then again does he know any contacts to get in new Players.

Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: green hats mate on November 28, 2016, 09:43:04 PM
I said last time DG left that I would like Rob Scott back, this was in reply to the usual GHM posts that he's started again zzzzz

I would however like to see Bunny do well and hopefully get some good results after all he does do most of the organising during the game?
But then again does he know any contacts to get in new Players.

Fully agree with the bottom paragraph garry .

Don,t get your first line comment , please elaborate .
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Pilgrim86 on November 28, 2016, 09:43:42 PM
I wonder if Rob Scott has any aspirations to manage on his own? He may feel he has unfinished business at Boston.

In that case, maybe he shouldn't have resigned in the first place?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Burgh Boy on November 28, 2016, 09:51:36 PM
Bizarre news. Assume it was DG's own choice to move on with DN's approval. Fully understand if Dennis found very little job satisfaction in his now former role and, he being an ambitious manager, I sincerely hope that he finds a more rewarding appointment soon. In the meantime lets ALL get behind Bunny who is a decent and well respected bloke. He will be a busy man looking after the Youth set up as well so there may well be further appointments to be made in the next dew weeks.   
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Tash on November 28, 2016, 09:53:38 PM
I think when the draw was made today that made Dennis's mind up to have another chat with the chairman. He knows Wilton will be absolutely fired up on Tuesday to secure a derby game at home with Chester and after the first half on Saturday he knows we will struggle and I don't think he fancied it. I would offer the job to Steve Thompson till the end of the season to work with Bunny and Cav, don't think he would do it but might be worth a try.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Mick lawson on November 28, 2016, 09:55:29 PM
Mick,
Doesn't everyone have to start somewhere and what a good time to give a local lad a chance till the end of the season
I may be wrong but Bunce appears to lack experience playing and managing at this level and has no positive track record as a number one - hence my view.

I really hope he does succeed for however long he is in charge.

TEP
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Winging It on November 28, 2016, 10:26:32 PM
Not shocked at that he has gone now, driven out by a mix of bad results and the hate campaign.  I just hope that the next manager will keep off, and not be invited, onto the other fans forum on facebook where let's face it, Den was a target for some to constantly abuse way before the whole knobhead comment. They should also keep off twitter too, and not be added by fans.  I remember rightly that is was the usual few who tagged Den's name into debates, then once he replied, he was subjected to personal comments which really did overstep the mark. It kicked off from there, and the rest is history. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and i would never knock that.  But some of the non football things that were said would upset anyone when those words get personal.

So, onto the next victim....i mean manager, oops.  Joking aside, lets hope that all of us can come together now and stop the snide remarks and get behind everyone at the club, the new manager/managers, staff, players, and even the poor chairman who astoundingly has been another subjected to bizarre claims about the non building of the stadium.

Lets move on now, kill off the knobhead army chants, forget about the past, each and every one of us, and support this decent club !

Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Mick lawson on November 28, 2016, 10:40:18 PM
I agree with that the whole knob head army chant is not what some of us like as boston fans I'm sure we can get back to yellow and black army and everyone pull together for the sake of the club
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: howmanynames2pick on November 28, 2016, 11:04:15 PM
Keep seeing Rob Scotts name cropping up. ..
He was not one to suffer fools easily.
Didn't he have a pop at someone behind the dug outs? ?
I certainly heard him put a fan in his place at a away game.
Didn't he also have a player by the throat at Grimsby? ?
Also left under a bit of a cloud having had some success after bringing a decent bunch from previous clubs??
Not one for me I'm afraid.
The brains are at Shrewsbury
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: father Ted on November 28, 2016, 11:48:33 PM
With all this doom and gloom , it falls to GHM and me to tell of our times watching Forest in the 1960s .
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Ken Fox on November 29, 2016, 07:50:05 AM
Wonder if Dennis Greene's twin brother has considered moving into football management. Anyone know what he's up to nowadays? :)
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Pete B on November 29, 2016, 08:07:03 AM
I keep seeing Rob Scott mentioned and tagged in tweets.

Er - really? It was hardly a cordial break-up - it ended up in court. As if David Newton's forgotten that. We're more likely to end up with Mel Sterland.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on November 29, 2016, 08:28:19 AM
Maybe we could have a poll on here and the fans could choose the next manager. My money is on Bunce & Cavell as a joint partnership until the end of the season - with the sole target of retaining National North League status.

TEP
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: green hats mate on November 29, 2016, 10:20:53 AM
I keep seeing Rob Scott mentioned and tagged in tweets.

Er - really? It was hardly a cordial break-up - it ended up in court. As if David Newton's forgotten that. We're more likely to end up with Mel Sterland.

Good point Pete .

Maybe Mel would bring a load of money with him  :)
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: soccermad67 on November 29, 2016, 10:48:10 AM
I thought Dennis was a very good manager, and took us to the play offs. but with nearly all the team from last season had gone,at the end of last season,that must be hard to form a strong team, and be near the play offs... With the ABUSE from so call FANS towards Dennis most of this current season, I can see why Dennis has left.   Good luck to you Dennis for the future, ..  Get behind Martin for tonights game  hope you have a good win.
ABUSE NOTE   For those who go to work, would you have your Boss hurling abuse at you all day long,and would you stay in your job, ?
Hurling Abuse is another way of being a BULLY.

"Come on Boston" 
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: kingofnaves on November 29, 2016, 11:08:25 AM
Would you abuse your customers? Remember who started it.Fully deserved it and looks like ex players have already got Den biting on twitter this morning!
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: green hats mate on November 29, 2016, 11:24:57 AM
Would you abuse your customers? Remember who started it.Fully deserved it and looks like ex players have already got Den biting on twitter this morning!

Most of us don,t know how it started .   Give us a graphic account and then maybe you will convert others .
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: green hats mate on November 29, 2016, 11:37:07 AM
With all this doom and gloom , it falls to GHM and me to tell of our times watching Forest in the 1960s .

11.38 PM .!!!! started clubbing again Ted ?  I must come over for a week-end  ;)

Later than the 60,s I recall going to Forest , Pineapple Head was playing and getting good humoured banter from fans .   
About 4 years ago I recall him walking from the Boston dug out at YS for the last time getting vile abuse from about 30/40 "fans "
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: howmanynames2pick on November 29, 2016, 11:39:29 AM
Would you abuse your customers? Remember who started it.Fully deserved it and looks like ex players have already got Den biting on twitter this morning!
Ryan Robbins?
A bad apple if there ever was one.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: green hats mate on November 29, 2016, 11:48:18 AM
Would you abuse your customers? Remember who started it.Fully deserved it and looks like ex players have already got Den biting on twitter this morning!
Ryan Robbins?
A bad apple if there ever was one.

Yes , we,ve seen that a few times !   Omit a detail to give a very different complex to the message .
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Bostonshire on November 29, 2016, 11:53:32 AM
Would you abuse your customers? Remember who started it.Fully deserved it and looks like ex players have already got Den biting on twitter this morning!

I'm pleased things have changed as they need to but yes the crowd did get some abuse but frankly some supporters was embarrassing, a lot of abuse aimed towards him was way way over the mark and very personal.. Anyone who came to my place of work and told me to take less time f***ing the slut and do your job would struggle to walk with broken legs.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Winging It on November 29, 2016, 12:18:29 PM
Would you abuse your customers? Remember who started it.Fully deserved it and looks like ex players have already got Den biting on twitter this morning!

I'm pleased things have changed as they need to but yes the crowd did get some abuse but frankly some supporters was embarrassing, a lot of abuse aimed towards him was way way over the mark and very personal.. Anyone who came to my place of work and told me to take less time f***ing the slut and do your job would struggle to walk with broken legs.

Those types of personal posts, then tagging dens name into it just to make sure he sees it, was the most low of all the anti greeners posts.  And yet now, they want us to believe that they are totally blameless in it all !  BOTH were bad as each other with the ongoing abuse back and forwards, yet i didn't see den tagging any of these fans into his posts.   The conduct of some 'fans' won't improve though, it's just how they are wired and operate and it really is sad to say that they must shoulder some of the blame for bringing this club down all the time with one conspiracy after another.  I think it's time we all moved on now, cut out the crap, and get behind this team.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Pilgrim86 on November 29, 2016, 12:27:28 PM
I keep seeing Rob Scott mentioned and tagged in tweets.

Er - really? It was hardly a cordial break-up - it ended up in court. As if David Newton's forgotten that. We're more likely to end up with Mel Sterland.

Rob Scott also got sacked by Grimsby for gross misconduct... offering a fight to a manager opponent, I believe!!
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Pete B on November 29, 2016, 01:05:35 PM
I keep seeing Rob Scott mentioned and tagged in tweets.

Er - really? It was hardly a cordial break-up - it ended up in court. As if David Newton's forgotten that. We're more likely to end up with Mel Sterland.

Rob Scott also got sacked by Grimsby for gross misconduct... offering a fight to a manager opponent, I believe!!

He made comment about the other manager's wife and was fired as a result of that, from what I remember. I honestly can't see Newton going for him.

Greg Fee's perked up on Twitter today - maybe a good time to bring him back!?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: mike brolly boots on November 29, 2016, 02:12:17 PM
Need someone to push on from what Dennis has done not look backwards to appoint someone who failed , and I can't see many managers about who can do that . If looking for a manager to take us to the next step shouldn't be looking at previous managers . And while I wish Martyn all the best wasn't he the asst manager to Dennis so has to take some blame in the position the teams in
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: green hats mate on November 29, 2016, 03:06:56 PM
Need someone to push on from what Dennis has done not look backwards to appoint someone who failed , and I can't see many managers about who can do that . If looking for a manager to take us to the next step shouldn't be looking at previous managers . And while I wish Martyn all the best wasn't he the asst manager to Dennis so has to take some blame in the position the teams in

 I agree about not looking back , because if we do it will mean we will appoint someone with a less impressive record here on what must almost certainly been a bigger budget .   I suspect nearly all applicants will be managers dismissed from their jobs having not achieved near what DG as done .

Just because Martyn has been asst to DG it does,nt mean he believed in all DG did ,  maybe he will bring fresh ideas , and seems to have lots of enthusiasm which will hopefully rub off on to the players . 
Give him a fair chance before making another appointment .
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Dipdodah on November 29, 2016, 05:08:14 PM
Come on GHM, I am putting in our joint application as I speak ;)
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: The Third Twin on November 29, 2016, 09:23:37 PM
I keep seeing Rob Scott mentioned and tagged in tweets.

Er - really? It was hardly a cordial break-up - it ended up in court. As if David Newton's forgotten that. We're more likely to end up with Mel Sterland.

Rob Scott also got sacked by Grimsby for gross misconduct... offering a fight to a manager opponent, I believe!!
it was as a direct result of a crude racist remark made to a player who had got himself sent off, in Robs view, unnecessarily. I know the guy who was fourth official that night. He was a key witness in the investigation that followed.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Deeping Pilgrim on November 30, 2016, 06:49:14 AM
I would like to suggest a long-shot for the next BUFC manager - Andy Preece.

He knows this league from his time at Worcester City, which he took from 18th in the Conference North when he joined to an 8th place finish.  He led Worcester to two further top 10 finishes.  Preece also guided them to the 2nd round of the FA cup.

He also enjoyed a successful time at cash-strapped Northwich Victoria, which included another FA cup run, Northwich beat Charlton Athletic in the first round.

Preece has had both a long playing and coaching career, so he may have a few useful contacts, has done well at clubs with small budgets and fits the 'northern manager' tag that gets mentioned on here.  Unfortunately he doesn't seem to be on Twitter so I can't 'tap him up' about the job like one or two others seem to have done with Rob Scott, Dave Frecklington and Curtis Woodhouse.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on November 30, 2016, 10:11:03 AM
I would like to suggest a long-shot for the next BUFC manager - Andy Preece.

He knows this league from his time at Worcester City, which he took from 18th in the Conference North when he joined to an 8th place finish.  He led Worcester to two further top 10 finishes.  Preece also guided them to the 2nd round of the FA cup.

He also enjoyed a successful time at cash-strapped Northwich Victoria, which included another FA cup run, Northwich beat Charlton Athletic in the first round.

Preece has had both a long playing and coaching career, so he may have a few useful contacts, has done well at clubs with small budgets and fits the 'northern manager' tag that gets mentioned on here.  Unfortunately he doesn't seem to be on Twitter so I can't 'tap him up' about the job like one or two others seem to have done with Rob Scott, Dave Frecklington and Curtis Woodhouse.

Two concerns there DP ,  don,t think the  "Greene out" army would approve ,  after all the departing manager achieved 3 consecutive top 6 finishes , don,t see how they would accept someone with 3 top 10  finishes . 
Secondly after Saturday and last night farces do we want anyone who,s been associated with Northwich ? ;)

Andy Preece is a manager fans at many clubs touted  for as manager with good grounds ,  seeing that he falls well short of the standard set by some Boston supporters  is shows what a thankless task is confronting DN with a new appointment .
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Pete B on November 30, 2016, 10:24:52 AM
Rob Scott has already intimated he's not applying, so I think we can safely rule him out.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on November 30, 2016, 10:28:25 AM
Rob Scott has already intimated he's not applying, so I think we can safely rule him out.

Steve Thompson the same !!!    no big loss here !
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: dt woodhall on November 30, 2016, 10:32:48 AM
My one email other than predictions. Best for the club that he has gone.
In my opinion it should have been a long time ago, several missed opportunities.

We need to get a northern based manager and before anybody says anything
that is down to the chairman to decide and I have faith in him to get it right.

I will not respond further. Enough problems as it is.


Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: mike brolly boots on November 30, 2016, 12:59:04 PM
I would be happy to see Dave Frecklington given a shot at it
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Pete B on November 30, 2016, 01:03:59 PM
Probably the wrong side of the country for him, and he's got a nice job at Carlisle Utd's academy I doubt he'd want to pass up, but I'd love to see Darren Edmondson apply.

Great track record at Conf North level, and seemingly a top bloke. And funny, too. I've always thought a good sense of humour is an underrated trait in a manager, but I think it helps relax everyone (see Klopp at Liverpool), especially when things aren't going so well. Plus it means you're probably not a bellend.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: kingofnaves on November 30, 2016, 03:20:02 PM
Agree with DT Woodhall! Shame DN never acted to DT post a couple of years ago!!! We could now be in the conference not a relegation battle!
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on November 30, 2016, 04:45:52 PM
My one email other than predictions. Best for the club that he has gone.
In my opinion it should have been a long time ago, several missed opportunities.

We need to get a northern based manager and before anybody says anything
that is down to the chairman to decide and I have faith in him to get it right.

I will not respond further. Enough problems as it is.

Difficult post to understand for some maybe ,  hypocrisy is a word that may spring to mind . 
March 4th 2013 on the appointment of Greene as manager,  DT was urging us to " get behind the new manager " and the chairman .  In fact DT was true to his word commenting weeks later stating he liked him .   This pledge quickly became worthless as he soon continually  mounted constant abuse directed at Greene .   Little respect there for the Chairman,s choice of manager .   

Apart from his postings on Patter many of us have witnessed him directing  vitriol on a regular basis at all the managers DN has appointed ,  particularly Jason Lee , Graham Drury and Greene .  No respect whatsoever for the chairman.
On the commercial side many fans on Spayne Terrace suspect from his comments to match officials that he has a financial interest in Specsavers  :)   Never short of an idea as the where the lino,s should stick their flagsticks . :)

Lets hope when DN appoints a new manager DT is true to his word and this time show respect for the appointment . 

On the plus side unlike many others when pressed to name a new manager DT did respond .  Neil Redfern was his choice .
Neils management record .
                              P 120   WON 32     DRAW  23     LOST 26 
Be nice if DN can meet Neils demand of in excess of £50k per annum and provide him with the budget he demands and keep one supporter happy ,  well for a week or to !!!



Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on November 30, 2016, 04:53:55 PM
Agree with DT Woodhall! Shame DN never acted to DT post a couple of years ago!!! We could now be in the conference not a relegation battle!

Maybe DN would claim if he acted on DT comments we would be in the Uni South .

DG did in fact sign a player that DT expressed a wish for us to sign ,   Jason St Juste .  ???
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: The Third Twin on November 30, 2016, 08:15:36 PM
My one email other than predictions. Best for the club that he has gone.
In my opinion it should have been a long time ago, several missed opportunities.

We need to get a northern based manager and before anybody says anything
that is down to the chairman to decide and I have faith in him to get it right.

I will not respond further. Enough problems as it is.

Difficult post to understand for some maybe ,  hypocrisy is a word that may spring to mind . 
March 4th 2013 on the appointment of Greene as manager,  DT was urging us to " get behind the new manager " and the chairman .  In fact DT was true to his word commenting weeks later stating he liked him .   This pledge quickly became worthless as he soon continually  mounted constant abuse directed at Greene .   Little respect there for the Chairman,s choice of manager .   

Apart from his postings on Patter many of us have witnessed him directing  vitriol on a regular basis at all the managers DN has appointed ,  particularly Jason Lee , Graham Drury and Greene .  No respect whatsoever for the chairman.
On the commercial side many fans on Spayne Terrace suspect from his comments to match officials that he has a financial interest in Specsavers  :)   Never short of an idea as the where the lino,s should stick their flagsticks . :)

Lets hope when DN appoints a new manager DT is true to his word and this time show respect for the appointment . 

On the plus side unlike many others when pressed to name a new manager DT did respond .  Neil Redfern was his choice .
Neils management record .
                              P 120   WON 32     DRAW  23     LOST 26 
Be nice if DN can meet Neils demand of in excess of £50k per annum and provide him with the budget he demands and keep one supporter happy ,  well for a week or to !!!
GHM, curiosity begs me to feel I have to ask regarding the stats on Mr Redferns record above. What happened in the other 39 matches?  ::)
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: aggy on November 30, 2016, 08:32:06 PM
Steve Kittrick - storming the Unibond North  with Scarborough & bags of this level experience with Guisley



Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Pilgrim86 on November 30, 2016, 08:55:58 PM
Steve Kittrick - storming the Unibond North  with Scarborough & bags of this level experience with Guisley

Also sacked twice whilst in Conference North... 
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on November 30, 2016, 09:03:15 PM
My one email other than predictions. Best for the club that he has gone.
In my opinion it should have been a long time ago, several missed opportunities.

We need to get a northern based manager and before anybody says anything
that is down to the chairman to decide and I have faith in him to get it right.

I will not respond further. Enough problems as it is.

Difficult post to understand for some maybe ,  hypocrisy is a word that may spring to mind . 
March 4th 2013 on the appointment of Greene as manager,  DT was urging us to " get behind the new manager " and the chairman .  In fact DT was true to his word commenting weeks later stating he liked him .   This pledge quickly became worthless as he soon continually  mounted constant abuse directed at Greene .   Little respect there for the Chairman,s choice of manager .   

Apart from his postings on Patter many of us have witnessed him directing  vitriol on a regular basis at all the managers DN has appointed ,  particularly Jason Lee , Graham Drury and Greene .  No respect whatsoever for the chairman.
On the commercial side many fans on Spayne Terrace suspect from his comments to match officials that he has a financial interest in Specsavers  :)   Never short of an idea as the where the lino,s should stick their flagsticks . :)

Lets hope when DN appoints a new manager DT is true to his word and this time show respect for the appointment . 

On the plus side unlike many others when pressed to name a new manager DT did respond .  Neil Redfern was his choice .
Neils management record .
                              P 120   WON 32     DRAW  23     LOST 26 
Be nice if DN can meet Neils demand of in excess of £50k per annum and provide him with the budget he demands and keep one supporter happy ,  well for a week or to !!!
GHM, curiosity begs me to feel I have to ask regarding the stats on Mr Redferns record above. What happened in the other 39 matches?  ::)

Thanks for pointing out my error TTT .    he lost the  other 39 matches .    P 120  WON 32  DRAW 23   LOST  65 .
At least it made it less embarrassing for DT Woodhall until it was corrected .
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: leicester pilgrim on November 30, 2016, 09:07:07 PM
Basford United have had a few promotions in recent seasons under Martin Carruthers as manager and Mark Clifford as first team coach. Up and coming and also ex Pilgrims - wonder if they might apply?
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on November 30, 2016, 09:17:51 PM
Steve Kittrick - storming the Unibond North  with Scarborough & bags of this level experience with Guisley

Also sacked twice whilst in Conference North...

Started last season with Telford ,  left them early doors bottom of the league with a lot of players not good enough and on contracts .

How about Mark Bower who replaced Kittrick at Guiseley ?.   Speaking from memory his first game in charge for Guiseley was at Boston ,  looked worse than we do now and lost 4-1 .   Bower went on to take them to promotion , only to get sacked last season .
BPA were bottom of the league when he took over there about 6 weeks ago ,  I think they have won 5 and drawn 1 in the league since then .
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on November 30, 2016, 09:26:35 PM
Basford United have had a few promotions in recent seasons under Martin Carruthers as manager and Mark Clifford as first team coach. Up and coming and also ex Pilgrims - wonder if they might apply?

Both popular and respected at Boston ,  would be worthy of consideration I would have thought .

Suggestions beginning to roll in but none seem to be coming from those most vociferous in he demand for DGs removal ,  were this people genuinely interested in the football aspect ?
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: The Third Twin on November 30, 2016, 10:45:57 PM
Basford United have had a few promotions in recent seasons under Martin Carruthers as manager and Mark Clifford as first team coach. Up and coming and also ex Pilgrims - wonder if they might apply?

Both popular and respected at Boston ,  would be worthy of consideration I would have thought .

Suggestions beginning to roll in but none seem to be coming from those most vociferous in he demand for DGs removal ,  were this people genuinely interested in the football aspect ?
ok, I'll stand up as an anti-Dennis person and make what I hope is a reasonable suggestion.  A long while back I'd suggested Gareth Jelleyman, as he is obviously well known to the club, he knows the non league scene at our level and above and specifically in the more local catchment area , and  I believe he still lives around or in Peterboro and plays for Corby. At 36, this club could be a good launch platform for his managerial career, a man with ambition, you might say.  However, at the risk of seeming to contradict myself, the downside would be would he want to throw himself into his first managerial position at a club seemingly in a bit of a fix with a season to save and little funds to save it with?
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: leicester pilgrim on December 01, 2016, 07:06:33 AM
ok, I'll stand up as an anti-Dennis person and make what I hope is a reasonable suggestion.  A long while back I'd suggested Gareth Jelleyman, as he is obviously well known to the club, he knows the non league scene at our level and above and specifically in the more local catchment area , and  I believe he still lives around or in Peterboro and plays for Corby. At 36, this club could be a good launch platform for his managerial career, a man with ambition, you might say.  However, at the risk of seeming to contradict myself, the downside would be would he want to throw himself into his first managerial position at a club seemingly in a bit of a fix with a season to save and little funds to save it with?

Advert does ask for candidates with managerial experience, so I'd expect Jelleyman might not get an interview. Same rationale would seem to exclude someone like Nat Brown from applying. Both though would arguably fit the bill as pofential assistant managers.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Ferret on December 01, 2016, 08:10:07 AM
Would you abuse your customers? Remember who started it.Fully deserved it and looks like ex players have already got Den biting on twitter this morning!

Most of us don,t know how it started .   Give us a graphic account and then maybe you will convert others .

I think the whole story is a bit akin to the remarks made regarding the Ched Evans case - nobody comes out of the situation with any credit.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: howmanynames2pick on December 01, 2016, 09:56:29 AM
Would you abuse your customers? Remember who started it.Fully deserved it and looks like ex players have already got Den biting on twitter this morning!

Most of us don,t know how it started .   Give us a graphic account and then maybe you will convert others .

I think the whole story is a bit akin to the remarks made regarding the Ched Evans case - nobody comes out of the situation with any credit.

Fully agree Pat.
Re the ex players comments....I'm only aware of two ...Robbins a sacked player and Piergianni  who wasn't. ..
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: green hats mate on December 01, 2016, 10:36:02 AM
Would you abuse your customers? Remember who started it.Fully deserved it and looks like ex players have already got Den biting on twitter this morning!

Most of us don,t know how it started .   Give us a graphic account and then maybe you will convert others .

I think the whole story is a bit akin to the remarks made regarding the Ched Evans case - nobody comes out of the situation with any credit.

Fully agree Pat.
Re the ex players comments....I'm only aware of two ...Robbins a sacked player and Piergianni  who wasn't. ..

Spending much time on Patter I am beginning to master the art of hindsight .
In future when these fans receive similar alleged abuse from a manager ,  approach to the chairman (not via social media ) with the accusation and it will quickly be resolved .   Or does that not fit into their agenda ?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: Pete B on December 01, 2016, 11:24:49 AM
Would you abuse your customers? Remember who started it.Fully deserved it and looks like ex players have already got Den biting on twitter this morning!

Most of us don,t know how it started .   Give us a graphic account and then maybe you will convert others .

I think the whole story is a bit akin to the remarks made regarding the Ched Evans case - nobody comes out of the situation with any credit.

Fully agree Pat.
Re the ex players comments....I'm only aware of two ...Robbins a sacked player and Piergianni  who wasn't. ..

Waide Fairhurst seemed happy enough with Greene's departure too.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene gone by mutual consent
Post by: green hats mate on December 01, 2016, 02:41:10 PM
Would you abuse your customers? Remember who started it.Fully deserved it and looks like ex players have already got Den biting on twitter this morning!

Most of us don,t know how it started .   Give us a graphic account and then maybe you will convert others .

I think the whole story is a bit akin to the remarks made regarding the Ched Evans case - nobody comes out of the situation with any credit.

Fully agree Pat.
Re the ex players comments....I'm only aware of two ...Robbins a sacked player and Piergianni  who wasn't. ..

Waide Fairhurst seemed happy enough with Greene's departure too.

A lot of fans would be delighted to have seen Waide go .
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 01, 2016, 03:11:56 PM
One man who will not be applying for the Boston job is Martin Allen who has today left Div 2 Barnet to join National conference Eastleigh.     It is rumoured that some of the Eastleigh players wages are on a par with some Championship clubs .
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Pilgrim86 on December 01, 2016, 03:53:19 PM
Martin Allen will find himself back at Barnet in a couple of years. He always returns!
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: The Big M on December 01, 2016, 06:26:56 PM
Basford United have had a few promotions in recent seasons under Martin Carruthers as manager and Mark Clifford as first team coach. Up and coming and also ex Pilgrims - wonder if they might apply?

Both popular and respected at Boston ,  would be worthy of consideration I would have thought .

Suggestions beginning to roll in but none seem to be coming from those most vociferous in he demand for DGs removal ,  were this people genuinely interested in the football aspect ?

Very big budget at Basford however
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 01, 2016, 07:24:13 PM
Basford United have had a few promotions in recent seasons under Martin Carruthers as manager and Mark Clifford as first team coach. Up and coming and also ex Pilgrims - wonder if they might apply?

Both popular and respected at Boston ,  would be worthy of consideration I would have thought .

Suggestions beginning to roll in but none seem to be coming from those most vociferous in he demand for DGs removal ,  were this people genuinely interested in the football aspect ?

Very big budget at Basford however

Our Chairman says he wants the club to progress ,  seeing there is getting more teams turning full-time  in this league we will need an increase in budget to stand still .    I think the league has now got to the point that the promotion places will be dominated by F/T teams .    Looks as though the new manager may get an increased budget .
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: The Big M on December 01, 2016, 07:30:50 PM
Basford United have had a few promotions in recent seasons under Martin Carruthers as manager and Mark Clifford as first team coach. Up and coming and also ex Pilgrims - wonder if they might apply?

Both popular and respected at Boston ,  would be worthy of consideration I would have thought .

Suggestions beginning to roll in but none seem to be coming from those most vociferous in he demand for DGs removal ,  were this people genuinely interested in the football aspect ?

Very big budget at Basford however

Our Chairman says he wants the club to progress ,  seeing there is getting more teams turning full-time  in this league we will need an increase in budget to stand still .    I think the league has now got to the point that the promotion places will be dominated by F/T teams .    Looks as though the new manager may get an increased budget .

Ok for the pedantic. A bigger budget than the teams around
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Pete B on December 01, 2016, 08:02:45 PM
We're not going to be rich, so our new gaffer needs to find a way to win without money. Dennis showed that it's possible, but the league is much tougher than it was 12 months ago. Even so, it's not impossible. Hard, yes. Impossible? No.

I'm fine with that: most of the time the cashed-up teams run out of dollar and end up tumbling back down. In some ways it's better for us, if you take a long term view.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: The Third Twin on December 01, 2016, 08:49:34 PM
We're not going to be rich, so our new gaffer needs to find a way to win without money. Dennis showed that it's possible, but the league is much tougher than it was 12 months ago. Even so, it's not impossible. Hard, yes. Impossible? No.

I'm fine with that: most of the time the cashed-up teams run out of dollar and end up tumbling back down. In some ways it's better for us, if you take a long term view.
and for most its likely they will fail. Rushden are a perfect example of a hobby club whose owner got fed up in the end. however, Burton prove it can be done with a long term plan that's properly executed. Ferriby are a shining example of what not to do, only shame is we'll have to suffer them again soon by the look of it.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: nikko on December 01, 2016, 09:00:13 PM


Suggestions beginning to roll in but none seem to be coming from those most vociferous in he demand for DGs removal ,  were this people genuinely interested in the football aspect ?
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has the oracle of all knowledge mr butler given his opinion yet?
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 01, 2016, 09:24:26 PM


Suggestions beginning to roll in but none seem to be coming from those most vociferous in he demand for DGs removal ,  were this people genuinely interested in the football aspect ?

has the oracle of all knowledge mr butler given his opinion yet?
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Looked on BUFC F/B tonight and Andy was moaning (yes really  :) on about a deletion of his on there .   What he did confirm was that
Greene under achieved the last 3 seasons .   Quite a claim considering we have not had three consecutive top six finishes for decades .
Unless Andy can point to the facts that prove otherwise .    To my knowledge he has not revealed his master plan to take the Pilgrims forward , nor revealed the "realistic" budget he claimed Greene had.   
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: nikko on December 01, 2016, 09:29:35 PM
probably still formulating his master plan .... ::)
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 01, 2016, 09:41:07 PM
According to reports Adam Murray ex Mansfield T manager has expressed an interest in the Boston job .
Adam had 14 moves as a player .
Managerial record ....P 103     W32    D27   L44
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Winging It on December 02, 2016, 10:30:13 AM
According to reports Adam Murray ex Mansfield T manager has expressed an interest in the Boston job .
Adam had 14 moves as a player .
Managerial record ....P 103     W32    D27   L44

31.1% win rate,  mmmmm,  will that be good enough for our moaners who are demanding at least a 50% win rate ?  ::)
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: dt woodhall on December 02, 2016, 11:09:21 AM
Seems to me that green hats mate is the magic oracle.

Pity all he does is criticise others especially me and Andy Butler who is one of the most committed supporters there is for the club by the way. It would be nice if GHM came up with some suggestions on the way forward instead of slagging of anybody who has an opinion that does not coincide with his own.

Because of illness I have not been able to attend matches this year despite still getting my regular season ticket, so I cannot express a view on the players brought into the club this year, although sitting on the verge of relegation some of them are clearly not good enough unless its the way they were managed of course!!

I vowed not to respond to comments that have been made against me, but I am getting fed up with it, so come on Pete lets have some constructive views on the way forward instead of all the negative criticism you seem to vent at the likes of me. You never know I might respond
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 02, 2016, 12:05:26 PM
Seems to me that green hats mate is the magic oracle.

Pity all he does is criticise others especially me and Andy Butler who is one of the most committed supporters there is for the club by the way. It would be nice if GHM came up with some suggestions on the way forward instead of slagging of anybody who has an opinion that does not coincide with his own.

Because of illness I have not been able to attend matches this year despite still getting my regular season ticket, so I cannot express a view on the players brought into the club this year, although sitting on the verge of relegation some of them are clearly not good enough unless its the way they were managed of course!!

I vowed not to respond to comments that have been made against me, but I am getting fed up with it, so come on Pete lets have some constructive views on the way forward instead of all the negative criticism you seem to vent at the likes of me. You never know I might respond

Dave where the problem lays is the fact you come criticise the managers (notice the s on the end) on one hand and then add that you respect the chairman ,  the chairman appointed Greene who delivered the best record for decades and yet you along with a little army of youngsters throw vitriol at the appointee ,  Sorry but this shows disrespect to the  chairman and disrespect for expecting him to believe it ..
Your constant demands for new players (ie wheres the new left back Mr Genius) is not constructive when the manager and most the fans are alert to the fact , rudeness is of no constructive use .   What would be constructive is telling  the  manager how to overcome the problem of getting part-time footballers  to fit in playing in the depth of Lincs with their day job ,  or do you know about 18 top quality NC players that are local ?.      You have not still explained what a "proper manager ""is .  Vague demands are not constructive , telling the manager and chairman how to fund these demands is .

I,m sure Andy will be pleased about your concerns , I,m sure next time I bump into Andy we will have a good constructive conversation as always and will both depart with a smile on our faces .

I have expressed satisfaction at the outcome of the last 3 seasons , ok maybe you find it odd people don,t constantly mown .
Cleary you read all my posts therefore you should note that I mentioned recently some like your have expectation that are unrealistic ,
unless you are the knight in shining armour who will  sink about £400k into the club on a yearly basis .  Be positive and enjoy is one profound lesson I have learned recently .

Wish you well with your health ,   having had to contend with two bouts of cancer myself over the last  18 months I know your frustration .
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: The Big M on December 02, 2016, 05:21:54 PM
Still don't understand this name a manager rubbish.  The place i work needs staff I dont have to suggest them   
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Tash on December 02, 2016, 09:59:20 PM
Could John Schofeild and Paul Cavell be the answer.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Pete B on December 02, 2016, 10:22:17 PM
Still don't understand this name a manager rubbish.  The place i work needs staff I dont have to suggest them

No referral policy at your place then? We get a grand per successful suggestion. So after tax, £8.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: AdyG on December 03, 2016, 11:42:22 AM
Still don't understand this name a manager rubbish.  The place i work needs staff I dont have to suggest them

Agreed, and as fans we are customers, not employees.

We have a very successfull, well informed local businessman who decided the time was right to let the manager go. I think most fans would place their trust in the clubs current chairman to make a decision on a new manager after a long carefull consider process of evaulating the 20+ cv/applications already recieved and interviewing the most promising candidates.

While Greene did a reasonably good job & personally i'd have liked/trusted him to have seen the season out, he won NOTHING. In my opinion during the last decade (10 years) we had our best management under Scott & Hurst (who unfortunately were poached by a bigger club in a higher division). in the previous decade Neil Thompson also did a very good job with limited resources in LEAGUE2.

Greene already admitted he couldnt progress the club forward, and followed on by setting up a team and tactics that led to us letting in 6 (SIX) goals in 30mins against fylde (even San Marino dont normally concede 6 in 30mins especially in 1st halfs), then having to be saved by fog 1-0 down against a team 2 divisions lower without looking capable of scoring a goal. Injuries can be an excuse, but chairman was justified to act.

The Chairman sets the budget, sets the targets, appoints the Manager/s. We have a chairman that paid of our CVA, invests £100k+ per year into the club. Greene has gone, now is the time to look to the future.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 03, 2016, 01:02:16 PM
Still don't understand this name a manager rubbish.  The place i work needs staff I dont have to suggest them

Agreed, and as fans we are customers, not employees.

We have a very successfull, well informed local businessman who decided the time was right to let the manager go. I think most fans would place their trust in the clubs current chairman to make a decision on a new manager after a long carefull consider process of evaulating the 20+ cv/applications already recieved and interviewing the most promising candidates.

While Greene did a reasonably good job & personally i'd have liked/trusted him to have seen the season out, he won NOTHING. In my opinion during the last decade (10 years) we had our best management under Scott & Hurst (who unfortunately were poached by a bigger club in a higher division). in the previous decade Neil Thompson also did a very good job with limited resources in LEAGUE2.

Greene already admitted he couldnt progress the club forward, and followed on by setting up a team and tactics that led to us letting in 6 (SIX) goals in 30mins against fylde (even San Marino dont normally concede 6 in 30mins especially in 1st halfs), then having to be saved by fog 1-0 down against a team 2 divisions lower without looking capable of scoring a goal. Injuries can be an excuse.

The Chairman sets the budget, sets the targets, appoints the Manager/s. We have a chairman that paid of our CVA, invests £100k+ per year into the club. Greene has gone, now is the time to look to the future.

The last paragraph says it all ,   Lets ALL respect his  decisions as the majority of us do Andy .   
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: dt woodhall on December 03, 2016, 01:53:30 PM
So still nothing constructive to add for the future Pete, just more grumbling about me
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: noughtyforties on December 03, 2016, 08:37:45 PM
I'll take it as a compliment that someone I don't know and who probably doesn't know me classes me as 'the oracle'! I think this is my first post on here for about 2 years, too many keyboard warriors hiding behind the anonymity of a username on here for my liking, on the Facebook page you know who you are falling out with, and generally its someone who I can have a drink with and respect. On here it can be any old coward who fancies a pop because it was OK to fcuk into me during the Evans regime. As regards my outburst at the Halifax game I apologized on Facebook to anyone who was offended and in the ground v Brackley I apologized to a bloke who pulled me up about what I said and he accepted my apology in the right manner.

Greene made it personal by sending some personal messages via social media to the boy who as you may know, travels from Birmingham to 95% of home and away games (I think he's missed about 4 aways in 3 years and about the same number of homes as midweek trains back to Brum from here are non existent), so it became personal on my part though that.Having said that no one can condone the personal stuff about his partner, that's dragging things back to the bad old days of Evans and the Tartan Taliban and those responsible should be ashamed of themselves. I met Clara(?) at Ferriby and at Alty this season and she was lovely and to think some knuckle draggers were shouting what they did is beyond reprehensible.........as a club we've a few complete tw@ts in the support who need to look at themselves.

Aside from being a complete idiot on social media I will say fair play to him for the 3 full seasons we had him for, although he never sorted the disaster area that was the midfield and defensively looked less than convincing you couldn't fault the entertainment value most of the time. However the fact remains we lost two play off semi finals under him despite taking a two goal lead in both second legs and this summer I got the feeling his recruitment was at best scattergun and at worst just plain lazy.

Giovanni Trappatoni once said that a coach shouldn't stay at a club above 3 years because he is like a fish and begins to stink if things go stale, sadly thats just what happened here.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: howmanynames2pick on December 03, 2016, 08:57:12 PM
Don't always 100% agree with you Andy on all things.
However that it is an honest post.
Respect
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: father Ted on December 03, 2016, 09:50:42 PM
I thought DTW called GHM the oracle ..reply#85 . .
 I take  it Nortyforties =Andy Butler .
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Tash on December 03, 2016, 10:45:51 PM
Think Dennis could be heading to Trinity, after all they arei Carla's first love :D
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 03, 2016, 10:49:51 PM
I'll take it as a compliment that someone I don't know and who probably doesn't know me classes me as 'the oracle'! I think this is my first post on here for about 2 years, too many keyboard warriors hiding behind the anonymity of a username on here for my liking, on the Facebook page you know who you are falling out with, and generally its someone who I can have a drink with and respect. On here it can be any old coward who fancies a pop because it was OK to fcuk into me during the Evans regime. As regards my outburst at the Halifax game I apologized on Facebook to anyone who was offended and in the ground v Brackley I apologized to a bloke who pulled me up about what I said and he accepted my apology in the right manner.

Greene made it personal by sending some personal messages via social media to the boy who as you may know, travels from Birmingham to 95% of home and away games (I think he's missed about 4 aways in 3 years and about the same number of homes as midweek trains back to Brum from here are non existent), so it became personal on my part though that.Having said that no one can condone the personal stuff about his partner, that's dragging things back to the bad old days of Evans and the Tartan Taliban and those responsible should be ashamed of themselves. I met Clara(?) at Ferriby and at Alty this season and she was lovely and to think some knuckle draggers were shouting what they did is beyond reprehensible.........as a club we've a few complete tw@ts in the support who need to look at themselves.

Aside from being a complete idiot on social media I will say fair play to him for the 3 full seasons we had him for, although he never sorted the disaster area that was the midfield and defensively looked less than convincing you couldn't fault the entertainment value most of the time. However the fact remains we lost two play off semi finals under him despite taking a two goal lead in both second legs and this summer I got the feeling his recruitment was at best scattergun and at worst just plain lazy.

Giovanni Trappatoni once said that a coach shouldn't stay at a club above 3 years because he is like a fish and begins to stink if things go stale, sadly thats just what happened here.

Thanks for enlightening us Andy .  Hopefully that's the end of a nasty chapter .

Looking at player recruitment,  I have put a few posts on recently which some people accepted , others dismissed them as Greene propaganda . 
I have a fairly long list of statistics that I have compiled which I will put  on here in the near future in an abbreviated form related to the shift in the league geography .    Briefly what some now refer to as the "Manchester League"  consists of 11 teams (half the league ) within a 25 mile radius of Manchester .   Suddenly the likes of Salford , afc Fylde , demoted Halifax , Harrogate have sucked the neighbours into higher spending .  Apart from their new found wealth,  these teams are in a soccer hotbed,  in the same 25mile radius exist...    2PREM clubs ,  5 Champ clubs and 5 L1 clubs , a hotbed of rejected local talent to draw on .   
Boston catchment area if extended to 35 miles consists of just one league club (Peterborough ). 

The outcome is that these teams between them have 14 derbys of only 10 miles distance ,  another 25 of a distance of 30 miles or under and 19 under 50miles .       Many of these games boosting the gate by 100s.
Contrast these  with our sole derby of 55  miles .     For the above teams 55 miles s a fairly long away trip for players and fans .
More money and less travelling makes these teams a magnet for the better players .

When it comes to us recruiting with little or no local talent to draw on the only option is to draw players from further afield .
Presumably part-time footballers prefer not to drive to the outback of Lincolnshire 2/3 times a week to ply their trade and demand a premium for doing so .  With the above in mind I fear it is very unlikely for the ex-manger or the incoming manager can produce a side to be genuine competitors for a play-off place .    I hope to be proved wrong but cannot see it .

Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: kingofnaves on December 03, 2016, 10:51:51 PM
N40 and DT ignore the apologists our chairman could see where the club was going with Del boy.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: kingofnaves on December 03, 2016, 10:55:53 PM
GHM forget your figures and move on! He's gone and won't be coming back...hopefully
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 03, 2016, 11:12:59 PM
GHM forget your figures and move on! He's gone and won't be coming back...hopefully

What on earth are you taking about ,what an absolute load of crap ,  read the thing correctly .  explain how  I am supporting Greene in any way when I say he could not get us into the play-offs .    The figures are relevant to the club and I have produced them to explain the difficulty confronting whoever manages BUFC .  I like facts and figures they have substance.   What substance does soundbites ...sack the manager ....Greene apologist... etc contain .  have a little sit down with DT  before you abuse the next manager and come up with meaningful comments .  Which statistic(s) is incorrect .?   
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: kingofnaves on December 03, 2016, 11:15:51 PM
Instead of using your figures I suggest somebody to DN for the job!
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 03, 2016, 11:26:58 PM
Instead of using your figures I suggest somebody to DN for the job!
Explain what you mean .
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 03, 2016, 11:44:40 PM
N40 and DT ignore the apologists our chairman could see where the club was going with Del boy.

Andy (n/40) goes to great length to explain details and bring closure to the  subject , which appeared to be successful .
You are not happy with a peaceful outcome and attempt to reignite the flames ,  don,t think you,ll be happy until DN gets Greene back so you can express vitriol again.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 03, 2016, 11:46:17 PM
I thought DTW called GHM the oracle ..reply#85 . .
 I take  it Nortyforties =Andy Butler .

I come back to this later Ted ,  I,m going out clubbing now .
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Cavalier on December 04, 2016, 08:00:06 AM
We could be seeing him again sooner than you think, although not in the home dug-out!
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: kingofnaves on December 04, 2016, 10:46:07 AM
Gainsborough or more likely FC Manchester! Plenty of fans in Manchester to upset!
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: oxo on December 04, 2016, 11:12:43 AM
Not said a word on the subject of Dennis Greens leaving yet as I wanted to understand what had exactly happened. Everyone knows that He and I didn't always see eye to eye but happily that is now in the past and will stay there. I like many thought he was on his way after the Halifax game when we are led to believe he tended his resignation but was talked out of it by the chairman, It was also said that he had been given additional money to strengthen the team. This is now bothering me as he has now gone (by mutual consent ) after the chairman contacted him just a two or three weeks later.  As there has been no strengthening of the squad ( I don't accept a couple of youth team players on loan cost money) Is that money still there? and is it still available to the next manager?.
It has been very apparent from very early on that the majority of the signings were very poor and that this season would be a struggle even I could see that, there was no obvious leader as he had let Garner go perhaps the only one left who as captain could have got them playing as a team. Signing a player on contract without testing his fitness hence he has never played a game ( not the players fault ) this is bad business and bad management. We are lacking all over the park but managing to score goals but the defense has been and still is very poor but the manager showed no acumen in setting up for a defensive game when required and also showed no urgency to rectify the situation.
In conclusion Dennis Greene brought us some good times for a couple of years for which I am grateful but the reality is as he himself said he had taken the club as far as could, having said that there is no way he could carry on collecting his money as the club went down hill.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: The Third Twin on December 04, 2016, 11:41:28 AM
Gainsborough or more likely FC Manchester! Plenty of fans in Manchester to upset!
according to rumour, and I stress, unconfirmed rumour, he was at the Northolme yesterday. Or was it his twin brother?
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 04, 2016, 12:11:25 PM
Gainsborough or more likely FC Manchester! Plenty of fans in Manchester to upset!
according to rumour, and I stress, unconfirmed rumour, he was at the Northolme yesterday. Or was it his twin brother?

Not rumour , reported on bbc lincs .
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: The Third Twin on December 04, 2016, 12:53:47 PM
Gainsborough or more likely FC Manchester! Plenty of fans in Manchester to upset!
according to rumour, and I stress, unconfirmed rumour, he was at the Northolme yesterday. Or was it his twin brother?

Not rumour , reported on bbc lincs .
wonder what Dom Roma thinks to that. His league position and season are similar to ours, and many of the better players  he inherited are at Ferriby or Halifax. At least it's not just us!
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 04, 2016, 01:43:27 PM
Not said a word on the subject of Dennis Greens leaving yet as I wanted to understand what had exactly happened. Everyone knows that He and I didn't always see eye to eye but happily that is now in the past and will stay there. I like many thought he was on his way after the Halifax game when we are led to believe he tended his resignation but was talked out of it by the chairman, It was also said that he had been given additional money to strengthen the team. This is now bothering me as he has now gone (by mutual consent ) after the chairman contacted him just a two or three weeks later.  As there has been no strengthening of the squad ( I don't accept a couple of youth team players on loan cost money) Is that money still there? and is it still available to the next manager?.
It has been very apparent from very early on that the majority of the signings were very poor and that this season would be a struggle even I could see that, there was no obvious leader as he had let Garner go perhaps the only one left who as captain could have got them playing as a team. Signing a player on contract without testing his fitness hence he has never played a game ( not the players fault ) this is bad business and bad management. We are lacking all over the park but managing to score goals but the defense has been and still is very poor but the manager showed no acumen in setting up for a defensive game when required and also showed no urgency to rectify the situation.
In conclusion Dennis Greene brought us some good times for a couple of years for which I am grateful but the reality is as he himself said he had taken the club as far as could, having said that there is no way he could carry on collecting his money as the club went down hill.

A lot of intriguing points there for us to ponder Mel .   Pleased that the DG business is water under the bridge .   On Friday evening I got an email from Steve Housham ,  seems him and DG have made it up as well .  Steve made a brief reference to budgets , and how some teams have big spending power that others can,t compete with .

When S &H came we struck lucky in the fact that they had inherited a ready made team from David Holdsworth that only needed a bit of fine tuning .  They were based local by our standards (Loughboro UNI)  and would be on fairly modest wage I guess .  This served us fine for 2 years until they  and the managers left .

After two short stay managers Dennis came in ,   He signed Miller , Mills ,Felix , Pidge and Southwell,  also some top class loans which secured us play-off places .   The loans he brought this season is utter dross in the main .    Your guess will probably be better than mine Mel but I would hazard a guess that some players in this league now are paid more than Mills , Southwell, Felix and Pidge got at Boston put together . A reality check some seem reluctant to accept , now DG has gone they must accept that any manager at Boston has a massive job on their hands .

I share your concerns over the budget .   The conundrum is that DN rightly avoids a budget that we cannot afford .   Unlike many supporters a good NC manger will factor in that to get players in when competing with the money teams would command a massive budget , which would be unaffordable to us .     Therefore I see the better managers seeing us as only a stop-gap job , if they consider it at all .     Hard to accept but at the moment we are in the "poor relations " of the league and little signs it will change in the very near future .
 
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 04, 2016, 01:48:26 PM
Gainsborough or more likely FC Manchester! Plenty of fans in Manchester to upset!
according to rumour, and I stress, unconfirmed rumour, he was at the Northolme yesterday. Or was it his twin brother?

Not rumour , reported on bbc lincs .
wonder what Dom Roma thinks to that. His league position and season are similar to ours, and many of the better players  he inherited are at Ferriby or Halifax. At least it's not just us!

Would think Dom will know DG future is not at Northolme .
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Bostonshire on December 04, 2016, 02:10:06 PM
They happen to be mates and talk to each other on Twitter, Den did say he was going there to catch up with them sometime.

He also put on twitter when talking to Southwell he was going to come down there for a catch up to............ Just thought id quash the wycome roumers before they start lol
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: father Ted on December 04, 2016, 02:24:28 PM
When hes gone  hes gone ..
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: The Third Twin on December 04, 2016, 03:20:12 PM
When hes gone  hes gone ..
but like many players and managers alike, they keep popping up to haunt you every now and again. No reason why the subject of this discussion will prove in time to be any different.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: father Ted on December 04, 2016, 04:22:04 PM
He was a bit of a pied-piper ..
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Tash on December 04, 2016, 05:05:51 PM
Still think we need an experienced manager till the end of the season, someone with aggression,determination and above all organisation. Step forward Steve Thompson. Just listened to his answer when asked by Horton yesterday if he was interested he didn't say yes or no like a good politician he ducked the question. Sometimes you learn more by what is not said.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: father Ted on December 04, 2016, 05:30:55 PM
Sounds a hard type.but did some one say he wasn't interested..
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: stevie blue on December 04, 2016, 08:01:38 PM
Gainsborough or more likely FC Manchester! Plenty of fans in Manchester to upset!
according to rumour, and I stress, unconfirmed rumour, he was at the Northolme yesterday. Or was it his twin brother?

Not rumour , reported on bbc lincs .

And I had a chat with him and Clara in "Club on the Park" :)



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Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Dipdodah on December 05, 2016, 09:39:23 AM
Still think we need an experienced manager till the end of the season, someone with aggression,determination and above all organisation. Step forward Steve Thompson. Just listened to his answer when asked by Horton yesterday if he was interested he didn't say yes or no like a good politician he ducked the question. Sometimes you learn more by what is not said.

Stevie Thompson a true Boston United legend, a term I do not use loosely. I remember his encounters with the Altrincham bearded hard man King.  I was gutted when he went to Lincoln.

Something worries me about Steve, he never mentions on radio he ever played for us.

He puts himself across as a true imp.  I know very few managers manage the team they support, but an Linscum fan as our manager, no thanks.

The worry for me would be if we came a nursery team for Linscum. >:(
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Pilgrim86 on December 05, 2016, 10:45:17 AM
We've already got a Lincoln fan as our chairman (and chief scout).

My lasting memory of Thommo is him becoming manager at Notts County and signing a few ex-Pilgrims - ones he had been watching during Radio Lincs commentary!
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Pete B on December 05, 2016, 11:01:40 AM
Couldn't give a flying eff if our new manager had a Lincoln City tattoo - it really doesn't matter does it?
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Shrimperpilgrim on December 05, 2016, 12:31:50 PM
totally agree it just about sums up the way some of our so called fans view football.
who ever gets the job here will come under pressure from all angles its a joke when you have people who really have weird views on this football club and how it should be run and who it should be run by.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 05, 2016, 12:54:36 PM
totally agree it just about sums up the way some of our so called fans view football.
who ever gets the job here will come under pressure from all angles its a joke when you have people who really have weird views on this football club and how it should be run and who it should be run by.

I think the main problem sp is most of them think the club has limitless funding , or expect the club to spend money they have not got .
We have to face the fact there are several clubs in our league that can outbid us on securing managers and players .

Just had a though !!!!!   How about Mark Carney for manager .     Quantitative easing is the answer  :)
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: howmanynames2pick on December 05, 2016, 07:01:24 PM
totally agree it just about sums up the way some of our so called fans view football.
who ever gets the job here will come under pressure from all angles its a joke when you have people who really have weird views on this football club and how it should be run and who it should be run by.
well said that man
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: John C on December 05, 2016, 08:32:26 PM
Whilst I agree it doesn't matter at all. I always thought Steve Thompson was a Sheffield United fan...
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Dipdodah on December 06, 2016, 10:13:11 AM
totally agree it just about sums up the way some of our so called fans view football.
who ever gets the job here will come under pressure from all angles its a joke when you have people who really have weird views on this football club and how it should be run and who it should be run by.

So I am a ( so called fan ) people who know me know different to that.

In the 70's and 80's I ran a coach to most away games.

A season ticket holder for many years until work commitments made it not viable.

I was the biggest sole seller of the Pilgrim lottery at it's peak.

I even bought a house down Spayne road to be near the club I love.

I am not making out I am any better than any other supporter, but I do take offence to being called a " so called fan " because you do not agree with what I say.

As I said Stevie Thompson ( in my opinion ) is a United Legend.

Did he leave us under a cloud?  I do not know the answer, but have you ever heard him say on radio he ever played for us?  It's as if he has erased that period in his career from his mind.

You may be happy with a Lincoln City Chairman ( i am, thank you Mr Newton )

You may be happy with a Lincoln City Scout  ( needs to improve )

You may be happy with Lincoln City manager.

Can anyone else see where I am coming from?  The danger is we could become a nursery team for Lincoln City.

We are BOSTON UNITED a club with history and a club in our own right.

Look back on my previous posts,  I have never called for Greene to go.  I have never called for any manager to go.  But I am entitled to an opinion about the type of manager to manage our club.

End of rant, ( from a so called fan )
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Pilgrim86 on December 06, 2016, 10:51:43 AM
What did Man Utd fans think when former Liverpool and Man City player, Matt Busby, brought huge success to their football club? Jamie Carragher was an Everton fan as a boy... didn't stop him having a long career at the highest level with Liverpool.

Does it really matter who the manager supports? If you want it to be a BUFC fan, then the list is very short to choose from...
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Dipdodah on December 06, 2016, 11:08:22 AM
What did Man Utd fans think when former Liverpool and Man City player, Matt Busby, brought huge success to their football club? Jamie Carragher was an Everton fan as a boy... didn't stop him having a long career at the highest level with Liverpool.

Does it really matter who the manager supports? If you want it to be a BUFC fan, then the list is very short to choose from...

You have the wrong end of the stick.  I am not bothered if the new manager supports North Korea.  What I am bothered about is BUFC becoming Lincoln City reserves.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 06, 2016, 11:10:10 AM
What did Man Utd fans think when former Liverpool and Man City player, Matt Busby, brought huge success to their football club? Jamie Carragher was an Everton fan as a boy... didn't stop him having a long career at the highest level with Liverpool.

Does it really matter who the manager supports? If you want it to be a BUFC fan, then the list is very short to choose from...

You have the wrong end of the stick.  I am not bothered if the new manager supports North Korea.  What I am bothered about is BUFC becoming Lincoln City reserves.

There was a lot for us to digest Dip ,   but I got the main point ,  I,ll let you know if I see a house come on the market on the A16 Wyberton  :)
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Dipdodah on December 06, 2016, 11:15:02 AM
What did Man Utd fans think when former Liverpool and Man City player, Matt Busby, brought huge success to their football club? Jamie Carragher was an Everton fan as a boy... didn't stop him having a long career at the highest level with Liverpool.

Does it really matter who the manager supports? If you want it to be a BUFC fan, then the list is very short to choose from...

You have the wrong end of the stick.  I am not bothered if the new manager supports North Korea.  What I am bothered about is BUFC becoming Lincoln City reserves.

There was a lot for us to digest Dip ,   but I got the main point ,  I,ll let you know if I see a house come on the market on the A16 Wyberton  :)

What and leave sunny Fosdyke ;)
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: The Third Twin on December 06, 2016, 06:52:29 PM
Another name to ponder....Jim Harvey has left Altrincham. OK, so the nearest team he's ever managed is Forest Green or Halifax, but a man with 20 years pedigree at our and at a similar level,  and according to Wikipedia a career managerial win ratio of 42%. Not bad. Was at Halifax last year prior to Billy Heath's appointment?
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Tash on December 06, 2016, 07:24:12 PM
totally agree it just about sums up the way some of our so called fans view football.
who ever gets the job here will come under pressure from all angles its a joke when you have people who really have weird views on this football club and how it should be run and who it should be run by.

So I am a ( so called fan ) people who know me know different to that.

In the 70's and 80's I ran a coach to most away games.

A season ticket holder for many years until work commitments made it not viable.

I was the biggest sole seller of the Pilgrim lottery at it's peak.

I even bought a house down Spayne road to be near the club I love.

I am not making out I am any better than any other supporter, but I do take offence to being called a " so called fan " because you do not agree with what I say.

As I said Stevie Thompson ( in my opinion ) is a United Legend.

Did he leave us under a cloud?  I do not know the answer, but have you ever heard him say on radio he ever played for us?  It's as if he has erased that period in his career from his mind.

You may be happy with a Lincoln City Chairman ( i am, thank you Mr Newton )

You may be happy with a Lincoln City Scout  ( needs to improve )

You may be happy with Lincoln City manager.

Can anyone else see where I am coming from?  The danger is we could become a nursery team for Lincoln City.

We are BOSTON UNITED a club with history and a club in our own right.

Look back on my previous posts,  I have never called for Greene to go.  I have never called for any manager to go.  But I am entitled to an opinion about the type of manager to manage our club.

End of rant, ( from a so called fan )

Steve Thompson spoke passionately of his affection for BUFC on the radio on Saturday and of his playing days. Don't think we would become a nursery for Lincoln, he has applied a couple of times to become the gimps manager with little success. In my opinion he would be a good choice till the end of the season to steady the ship and bring some discipline and passion back.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: mike brolly boots on December 06, 2016, 08:18:17 PM
Sorry but giving bunny the managers job won't help him or the club
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Dipdodah on December 06, 2016, 08:24:44 PM
Sorry but giving bunny the managers job won't help him or the club
  A bufc fan, but I do agree.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 08, 2016, 02:36:52 PM
So still nothing constructive to add for the future Pete, just more grumbling about me

If calling on us all to back the chairman is grumbling at you it seems you do not agree with my plea . 

Sorry about the delay in responding DT,  I fully intended doing so yesterday but I got otherwise occupied ,  if you look at the board you will observe a newcomer registered on Tues evening , apparently this new poster has been following Patter for a number of years .
Therefore I was quite excited on the first day that out of 6 posts 5 were addressed to my comments ,  even though they were critical and did not address any football issues .  Oops  ;D  I digress .  Very enjoyable all the same .

Now if you care to look there are several recent posts I submitted pointing out the obstacles confronting the club ,  some do not read the facts or ignore them .   One post in particular I produced figures to demonstrate what a sizable advantage many clubs have over us in recruiting players.  No good sticking our heads in the sand and pretending it does not exist .   
Those  often demanding new players are mostly unaware of the complex recruitment of a part-time footballer , issues like work commitments , travel etc .    Takes a lot to persuade a p/t players to travel to Lincolnshire ,I should think about the only enticement that works is money .   These are the obstacles when recruiting players ,  do you see a way to confront the problem DT? I don,t

The only constructive advice on offer is that the supporters do their bit ,  ie attend games , give encouragement to players rather than shout abuse . DT has often commented on lack of volume from town end all thought from where I sit in the stand its sounded good considering our recent results .  Result of shouting abuse ?   drops the confidence of our team and lifts the opponents even if the abuse is directed at them .  Accept we are no longer big boys .
Lets respect the chairman and back his decisions and not just for the managers honeymoon period .

I,m not going to be snared into predictions ,  look below what dt saw in his oracle .

Oct 5  Newsham and Miller never replaced ,    Had you forgot Southwell ? dt  who finished up 2nd highest scorer in the league behind Bogle ,  and won the golden boot last season and moved on to L2.

Predicted we,re   "doomed " before we went on to make play-offs twice .

OCT  2014  Gates will drop to 600/700 .   they finished double that figure .
     
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 08, 2016, 05:06:04 PM
 Totally disagree with howmanynamestopick.
Rob Scott or Steve Housham for me, both have the right attitude and player/manager experience.
Not effing or jeffing about it or being a silly boy, only sensible suggestions and constructive comments from me.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Patrick on December 08, 2016, 06:09:16 PM
Someone mentioned the recently departed Mansfield Town manager Adam Murray.

I often find it's difficult to judge potential new managers because in most cases they'll only be available because they've been sacked, which never makes them look an appealing option, and win ratios don't tell you anything about context. That's why I like to see what fans of their previous clubs make of them if possible.

I asked a Mansfield fan the other day what his opinion of Murray was and he said he a good young manager who would be a good appointment.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: howmanynames2pick on December 08, 2016, 07:56:00 PM
Totally disagree with howmanynamestopick.
Rob Scott or Steve Housham for me, both have the right attitude and player/manager experience.
Not effing or jeffing about it or being a silly boy, only sensible suggestions and constructive comments from me.
Speaking to a player who played under Scott  he said they shut their ears when he went on a rant...did it too often..but when Hurst raised his voice they listened. Has Rob Scott done anything since being ousted from Grimsby?? (Maybe he has , and I missed it)
As for Housham....not a popular choice with me or a lot of other Boston fans.....
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 08, 2016, 08:42:06 PM
Its not about being popular or having a rant,it's about getting the job done and sorting the mess out.
When Scott was at Boston he got us promoted and left us with a very good squad.
I can't imagine howmanynames was not liking Scott then.
Yes he had Paul Hurst with him,but PH didn't do it by himself.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: howmanynames2pick on December 08, 2016, 10:22:19 PM
Its not about being popular or having a rant,it's about getting the job done and sorting the mess out.
When Scott was at Boston he got us promoted and left us with a very good squad.
I can't imagine howmanynames was not liking Scott then.
Yes he had Paul Hurst with him,but PH didn't do it by himself.
Ok...one more nibble....
They brought a decent few players from Ilkeston when they came...
I think you will find it was Hurst who got Grimsby promoted.....er on his own....
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 09, 2016, 02:15:20 AM
Sorry, I am only talking about what he achieved at Boston,I couldn't and wouldn't comment on what happened at Grimsby as I do not follow them, and I normally find the best policy in life, is not to comment on something that I know nothing about.
Can make you look like a fool.
No effing and Jeffing here, that would make me look like a silly boy.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Ed Kandi on December 09, 2016, 10:31:00 AM
Another name to ponder....Jim Harvey has left Altrincham. OK, so the nearest team he's ever managed is Forest Green or Halifax, but a man with 20 years pedigree at our and at a similar level,  and according to Wikipedia a career managerial win ratio of 42%. Not bad. Was at Halifax last year prior to Billy Heath's appointment?

Jim Harvey's teams play attractive football, from those I've seen anyway, been fairly successful too  8)
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Cavalier on December 09, 2016, 10:39:32 AM
Another name to ponder....Jim Harvey has left Altrincham. OK, so the nearest team he's ever managed is Forest Green or Halifax, but a man with 20 years pedigree at our and at a similar level,  and according to Wikipedia a career managerial win ratio of 42%. Not bad. Was at Halifax last year prior to Billy Heath's appointment?

Jim Harvey's teams play attractive football, from those I've seen anyway, been fairly successful too  8)

Yes please!
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: howmanynames2pick on December 09, 2016, 11:51:34 AM
Neil Thompson
decent human being and would sort the defence out
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: Dipdodah on December 09, 2016, 12:06:13 PM
Neil Thompson
decent human being and would sort the defence out

I wish.

Can we afford him?
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 09, 2016, 12:29:49 PM
Lets just hope its not someone who hasn't a good track record, we don't want to do it on the cheap.
When do you think we will know who has got the job.
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: mike brolly boots on December 09, 2016, 02:46:29 PM
Good call on Neil Thimpson I would like to see him back
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: father Ted on December 09, 2016, 03:09:47 PM
Keep refreshing club Twitter,, but I guess we know next Wed/Thurs  :-X
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: dt woodhall on December 11, 2016, 10:39:58 AM
Trust you are not implying this new poster is me GHM? No idea who you are referring to anyway but I can hardly be bothered to post under my name. Still dont know what I have done to upset you I am sure. Lets hope the new manager can get in some better players than we appear to have at present-- at least he is sort of northern!!
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: The Big M on December 11, 2016, 10:46:27 AM
Trust you are not implying this new poster is me GHM? No idea who you are referring to anyway but I can hardly be bothered to post under my name. Still dont know what I have done to upset you I am sure. Lets hope the new manager can get in some better players than we appear to have at present-- at least he is sort of northern!!

Nice to see you back mr Woodhall keep the posts coming
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 11, 2016, 01:00:16 PM
Trust you are not implying this new poster is me GHM? No idea who you are referring to anyway but I can hardly be bothered to post under my name. Still dont know what I have done to upset you I am sure. Lets hope the new manager can get in some better players than we appear to have at present-- at least he is sort of northern!!

Disagreeing with your comments does not say you have upset me , no none abusive comments disagreeing with me do , if we can,t express an opinion on others comments a forum is not a place to be .  Only unfounded disrespectful posts directed at other people offend me .  Looks as though we may be having you on here again ,  note the usual closing  "last post ".comment missing on his occasion .
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 11, 2016, 03:55:25 PM
Trust you are not implying this new poster is me GHM? No idea who you are referring to anyway but I can hardly be bothered to post under my name. Still dont know what I have done to upset you I am sure. Lets hope the new manager can get in some better players than we appear to have at present-- at least he is sort of northern!!

At random I,ve been through the Nov 15th 2015 v  Worcester thread .   It s clear reminder that there are numerous "happy clappers who live a  sad existence " on patter apart from me , that have a different opinion to you.,    All us "luvvies are in it together .   
Ranting and slinging dummy is not the way to debate , nor picking on one particular poster .

Be grateful for help and information handed out by fellow posters .  I see on the above thread when asked ,you revealed you played under Ken Oxford when appearing for BUFC Reserves ,   A poster came on to remind you Ken was manager for Boston FC not BUFC, all helps to keep the record straight .
 If you feel you need a new outlet to vet your anger ,  I will happily be the target .  I will not waste time responding , now where have I heard that before .?
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: dt woodhall on December 14, 2016, 02:02:47 PM
I can assure you that Ken Oxford did manage Boston United Reserves and I played in that team. I dont know or care if he also managed the other club in the town. Somebody should get their facts straight. I am sure Dr Fox  will confirm the facts
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: youngchubby69 on December 14, 2016, 03:08:29 PM
Someone mentioned the recently departed Mansfield Town manager Adam Murray.

I often find it's difficult to judge potential new managers because in most cases they'll only be available because they've been sacked, which never makes them look an appealing option, and win ratios don't tell you anything about context. That's why I like to see what fans of their previous clubs make of them if possible.

I asked a Mansfield fan the other day what his opinion of Murray was and he said he a good young manager who would be a good appointment.

Looks like Patrick was on the money with this quote, well done 😊
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: green hats mate on December 14, 2016, 05:32:09 PM
I can assure you that Ken Oxford did manage Boston United Reserves and I played in that team. I dont know or care if he also managed the other club in the town. Somebody should get their facts straight. I am sure Dr Fox  will confirm the facts

Looked back through the tread  to see where the confusion lie .  When you said you played for BUFC it was assumed you meant the 1st team,  you failed to state it was the reserves ,    hence the misunderstanding .    On second look its even more confusing because another poster claims Tommy Lowder was reserve team manager and Ken Oxford was manager of the Sunday team .     Hopefully Ken can clarify ,  along with the number of appearances made by D Tucker for BUFC reserves .
Title: Re: Gr-exit
Post by: dt woodhall on December 15, 2016, 08:59:53 AM
We were in the Lincs league Pete when if I remember all those years back it was at the time the first team were just getting back into the West Midlands League. Think Tommy Lowder was long gone from the club by then?, but Ken was definitely manager of us, and he banned us from playing local Sunday league football too!!!!