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Title: Greene considering future
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 22, 2016, 05:52:03 PM
Dennis Greene has claimed on video (via Boston Standard) that he will sit down with David Newton to discuss his future at the club, as he feels he has taken the club as far as he can.


http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/sport/football/boston-united/i-m-seriously-thinking-about-calling-it-a-day-boston-united-manager-dennis-greene-says-he-is-ready-to-quit-the-club-1-7641878


Time for a Spayne Roader or Patterer to step up and do the job better?  ;)
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Patrick on October 22, 2016, 05:55:06 PM
Hope DN persuades him to stay. If the play-offs is the furthest DG can take us that's good enough for me.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 22, 2016, 05:57:43 PM
Last thing we need is DG going . This was always gonna be a difficult season to compete with the ££££'s other teams can spend and replace the players who left  . Need to get behind him
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 22, 2016, 06:00:11 PM
Hope DN persuades him to stay. If the play-offs is the furthest DG can take us that's good enough for me.

I think the right outcome is for Dennis to stay until the summer. A season of mid-table mediocrity should be OK after the previous 3... but most don't see it that way.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: green hats mate on October 22, 2016, 06:01:14 PM
Great opportunity for the "Green outers "  to nominate a possible successor .
Interesting to see names that they envisage will progress the club  .
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on October 22, 2016, 06:09:09 PM
He was on the end of a proper big time rant from Andy Butler today. No swear words but a very big verbal assault.

TEP
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 22, 2016, 06:10:35 PM
He was on the end of a proper big time rant from Andy Butler today. No swear words but a very big verbal assault.

TEP

Straw, camel's back, etc.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: BostonGoals on October 22, 2016, 06:17:48 PM
Just a nightmare day all round with Aggers injury and Smith'a sending off and suspension, so I don't blame him one bit for feeling that he's had enough.

If he goes I will be disappointed personally, I think he's done a very good job on what is likely a mid-table budget. He's brought in some genuine quality players, most of which have gone on to bigger and better things, and is always spoken highly of by those players.

He's deserved the chance to turn things around, but looking at the current squad it's clearly not good enough to meet his and the clubs ambitions, and he's ultimately responsible for that at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 22, 2016, 06:18:25 PM
Sad state of affairs if someone who can shout the loudest causes a manager to leave , love to go to his critics places of work and see how good they are at their jobs while they have shouting vitriol at them
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 22, 2016, 06:23:44 PM
Sad state of affairs if someone who can shout the loudest causes a manager to leave , love to go to his critics places of work and see how good they are at their jobs while they have shouting vitriol at them

It's not just today though is it? The abuse was there last season when we lost 4 on the bounce. We then went on to finish in the Play Offs... but unfortunately collapsed in the 2nd leg.

A poor start fuelled the 'Greene Out' brigade, and it seems they finally have their wish!!
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: oxo on October 22, 2016, 06:28:38 PM
Heard his interview on the radio on the way home and he went further and said something I totally agree with. He complained about the state of the pitch. I stated before the game that it has not been as poor for a long time, looks as though it hasn't seen a mower for sometime and looked like a park pitch, Who is looking after it now Nobby has retired?. I also agree with his point that our fans lost the town end without justification handing it over to the poor away support to be more vocal, I really don't see fans accepting such shoddy treatment. Regarding other things he said ie; That it was his fault as he put this squad together, I agree. He thinks he has taken the club as far as he can, I agree.
There is clearly a lack of togetherness in the squad, it lacks a leader and is very weak in many areas and it is going to be a massive job for any incoming manager if the present incumbent does resign tomorrow however, if something positive doesn't happen soon relegation is a real threat.     
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 22, 2016, 06:29:48 PM
Yeah he would get stick even if he got us promoted but it's the same people giving him stick . I doubt the players are impressed by it as they are all his signings . This season was always gonna be mid table it's a young side who I reckon get a season under their belts would improve next season . I still think DG is well in credit with what he has done last few seasons and should see this season out to see how it looks then
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Artemis on October 22, 2016, 06:32:25 PM
It was always going to be a difficult season. Losing most of last season's team,  then a reduced budget.   The way I see it DN didn't want promotion this season because of the new stadium but obviously won't make that public. Hence the reduced budget. However I doubt relegation will be an issue as DN will have to dip into the coffers to bring in better players,  but we aren't there just yet.

Why give Halifax Town the town end when  their supporters could have been accommodated in the usual York Street stand.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: oxo on October 22, 2016, 06:36:53 PM
He was on the end of a proper big time rant from Andy Butler today. No swear words but a very big verbal assault.

TEP


The manager also mentioned this in his radio interview naming Andy Butler.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 22, 2016, 06:37:16 PM
It was always going to be a difficult season. Losing most of last season's team,  then a reduced budget.   The way I see it DN didn't want promotion this season because of the new stadium but obviously won't make that public. Hence the reduced budget. However I doubt relegation will be an issue as DN will have to dip into the coffers to bring in better players,  but we aren't there just yet.

Why give Halifax Town the town end when  their supporters could have been accommodated in the usual York Street stand.


Where are you getting the reduced budget thing from? DN actually gave DG a slight increase...

http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/boston-united-overachieved-dennis-greene-says/story-29395256-detail/story.html

Quote
"It doesn't put a massive amount into the budget, just some more. We want to give Dennis the best opportunity we can, but we're not going to spoil things at the club by trying to achieve something that we can't afford.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: oxo on October 22, 2016, 06:46:01 PM
Great opportunity for the "Green outers "  to nominate a possible successor .
Interesting to see names that they envisage will progress the club  .


Pete the fact is the manager actually says he feels he has taken the club as far as he can. That being the case how can the chairman persuade him to stay without providing the resources to enable him to get in players that can make the difference?
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 22, 2016, 06:50:31 PM
Sad
Not since Neil Thompsons outing have I been this disappointed by pressure being brought to bear.

As one or two have said this was always going to be a difficult season......shame others don't realise it.
Should DG move on I'm sure there will be a few players who feel they owe him....the 4 who went to higher clubs...Jordan Richards who got moved positionally and now is a 1st team player. ....

On today's game DG was let down by a few players today....
The scoreline flattered them I felt....I'm sure others will disagree
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Winging It on October 22, 2016, 06:59:10 PM
i would love to say exactly what i think about the abuse again,  yet if i did, i would be the next in line to be the target of abuse !

All i will say is that it is shameful just how some 'fans' think they can aim personal abuse at a manager, not just once, but countless of times.  And that doesn't just go for the one person.  Well, they have won now it seems, they have outed a good manager for this level.  Hope they are proud, and will put themselves forward for the job now seeing as they apparently know all the answers as well as our finances.   We are all entitled to our opinions and to be able to voice them at a game, but to what level.  As someone that has followed and supported this club since the late 80's i find recent activities really disturbing and if there ever comes a time for the final nails to be driven into my beloved club's coffin, then i will know that all the previous nails were hammered down by some of our fans. Thankfully, the vast majority of fans are level headed as seen already on here in the comments, so that does give me some hope for the club.  My end note would be that if any fans overstep the abuse mark, then i would hope that the club gives them a banning order.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 22, 2016, 07:01:48 PM
i would love to say exactly what i think about the abuse again,  yet if i did, i would be the next in line to be the target of abuse !

All i will say is that it is shameful just how some 'fans' think they can aim personal abuse at a manager, not just once, but countless of times.  And that doesn't just go for the one person.  Well, they have won now it seems, they have outed a good manager for this level.  Hope they are proud, and will put themselves forward for the job now seeing as they apparently know all the answers as well as our finances.   We are all entitled to our opinions and to be able to voice them at a game, but to what level.  As someone that has followed and supported this club since the late 80's i find recent activities really disturbing and if there ever comes a time for the final nails to be driven into my beloved club's coffin, then i will know that all the previous nails were hammered down by some of our fans. Thankfully, the vast majority of fans are level headed as seen already on here in the comments, so that does give me some hope for the club.  My end note would be that if any fans overstep the abuse mark, then i would hope that the club gives them a banning order.

well said and it doesn't matter who would come in he would get the same abuse from the same people
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 22, 2016, 07:17:33 PM
Unfortunately the vociferous few are beating the mostly silent majority.
I have seen a post about wanting ongoing improvement. ...
Surely that would ultimately get us in the Premier league???

It isn't going to happen ffs...this is poor season after 3 decent ones
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Artemis on October 22, 2016, 07:22:42 PM
It was always going to be a difficult season. Losing most of last season's team,  then a reduced budget.   The way I see it DN didn't want promotion this season because of the new stadium but obviously won't make that public. Hence the reduced budget. However I doubt relegation will be an issue as DN will have to dip into the coffers to bring in better players,  but we aren't there just yet.

Why give Halifax Town the town end when  their supporters could have been accommodated in the usual York Street stand.


Where are you getting the reduced budget thing from? DN actually gave DG a slight increase...

http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/boston-united-overachieved-dennis-greene-says/story-29395256-detail/story.html

Quote
"It doesn't put a massive amount into the budget, just some more. We want to give Dennis the best opportunity we can, but we're not going to spoil things at the club by trying to achieve something that we can't afford.

When did DN announce that the budget was going to be increased?  For instance was it before the season tickets went on sale?
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: nikko on October 22, 2016, 07:26:59 PM
He was on the end of a proper big time rant from Andy Butler today. No swear words but a very big verbal assault.

TEP

let him have a go seeing as he seems to know everything!!!
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: AdyG on October 22, 2016, 07:29:43 PM
It was always going to be a difficult season. Losing most of last season's team,  then a reduced budget.   The way I see it DN didn't want promotion this season because of the new stadium but obviously won't make that public. Hence the reduced budget. However I doubt relegation will be an issue as DN will have to dip into the coffers to bring in better players,  but we aren't there just yet.

Why give Halifax Town the town end when  their supporters could have been accommodated in the usual York Street stand.


Where are you getting the reduced budget thing from? DN actually gave DG a slight increase...

http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/boston-united-overachieved-dennis-greene-says/story-29395256-detail/story.html

Quote
"It doesn't put a massive amount into the budget, just some more. We want to give Dennis the best opportunity we can, but we're not going to spoil things at the club by trying to achieve something that we can't afford.

When did DN announce that the budget was going to be increased?  For instance was it before the season tickets went on sale?

I believe it was when the announcement of new ticket prices came out, extra £1 on prices to increase the budget slightly. Also i believe there was a small increase the previous season (although probably eaten up in Southwells contract).

Not sure where the stories of a reduced budget have come from, perhaps our budget is relatively smaller in comparison to the new teams in our division (while still slightly bigger than last year)?
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: green hats mate on October 22, 2016, 07:35:00 PM
He was on the end of a proper big time rant from Andy Butler today. No swear words but a very big verbal assault.

TEP

let him have a go seeing as he seems to know everything!!!

Yes we are all waiting to listen for Andy to suggest his business plan and recruiting ideas to turn things round .
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 22, 2016, 07:46:51 PM
He was on the end of a proper big time rant from Andy Butler today. No swear words but a very big verbal assault.

TEP

let him have a go seeing as he seems to know everything!!!

Yes we are all waiting to listen for Andy to suggest his business plan and recruiting ideas to turn things round .
  😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: green hats mate on October 22, 2016, 07:59:34 PM
Great opportunity for the "Green outers "  to nominate a possible successor .
Interesting to see names that they envisage will progress the club  .


Pete the fact is the manager actually says he feels he has taken the club as far as he can. That being the case how can the chairman persuade him to stay without providing the resources to enable him to get in players that can make the difference?

Yes that,s the big conundrum Mel ,  DG accepts that he can take us no further on the present resources ,  and we have always backed DN for sticking to a sustainable budget .    I don,t know the answer .     Greene,s record clearly shows that he matches any manager Boston have had in recent times (unless someone can prove different ).   Then again managers seem to come to a sell-by date , seems DG thinks he has .    On the same resources will a new manager do any better ?

I think the abusers overestimate the appeal Boston has for potential managers .
Any applicant will be mindful of what Green has achieved in terms of league position and progressing players careers , and yes, the abuse that goes with the job even when successful .      Most may decide trying to emulate DG is a step too far for them .


Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 22, 2016, 08:01:47 PM
It was always going to be a difficult season. Losing most of last season's team,  then a reduced budget.   The way I see it DN didn't want promotion this season because of the new stadium but obviously won't make that public. Hence the reduced budget. However I doubt relegation will be an issue as DN will have to dip into the coffers to bring in better players,  but we aren't there just yet.

Why give Halifax Town the town end when  their supporters could have been accommodated in the usual York Street stand.


Where are you getting the reduced budget thing from? DN actually gave DG a slight increase...

http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/boston-united-overachieved-dennis-greene-says/story-29395256-detail/story.html

Quote
"It doesn't put a massive amount into the budget, just some more. We want to give Dennis the best opportunity we can, but we're not going to spoil things at the club by trying to achieve something that we can't afford.

When did DN announce that the budget was going to be increased?  For instance was it before the season tickets went on sale?

It's in the article. It was given as a part-reason for the price increase.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Crazy Neil on October 22, 2016, 08:15:05 PM
I had more than one argument with so called fans today who were abusing Dennis.. Was it Den who failed to give red cards to two Halifax players? NO .. Was it Den who didn't award us a penalty only for them to go straight to our end and score? NO . Was Den one of the six who let Simmonds run past and score ? NO . So how the hell is it his fault. He said weeks ago that mid table would be a great season with all the ins and outs yet these no it all no nothings expect us to be on top of the table.
 1 We do NOT have the finances of a lot in our league.
 2 We are NOT full time like some in the league.
 3 Where were these now it all know nothings when we were unbeaten in six?
 Some people are clueless when it comes to football and think you just turn up and the points are ours,no matter what league we are in there are clubs who still see us as a BIG club and want to beat us.  I asked one muppet to give me a name of a replacement and said you have five minutes.after TEN minutes he shrugged his shoulders and said "I dunno" ...

Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 22, 2016, 08:18:32 PM
I hope DG reads these and realises there is support for him and DG if you do read these please stay off Twitter for a while so you don't let the same people wind you up every week
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: green hats mate on October 22, 2016, 08:36:10 PM
I had more than one argument with so called fans today who were abusing Dennis.. Was it Den who failed to give red cards to two Halifax players? NO .. Was it Den who didn't award us a penalty only for them to go straight to our end and score? NO . Was Den one of the six who let Simmonds run past and score ? NO . So how the hell is it his fault. He said weeks ago that mid table would be a great season with all the ins and outs yet these no it all no nothings expect us to be on top of the table.
 1 We do NOT have the finances of a lot in our league.
 2 We are NOT full time like some in the league.
 3 Where were these now it all know nothings when we were unbeaten in six?
 Some people are clueless when it comes to football and think you just turn up and the points are ours,no matter what league we are in there are clubs who still see us as a BIG club and want to beat us.  I asked one muppet to give me a name of a replacement and said you have five minutes.after TEN minutes he shrugged his shoulders and said "I dunno" ...

I invited suggestions for a new  manager on this thread at 06.01pm ,  no response as yet .

I think its safe to say taking into account F/T teams and budgets of other clubs a top 8 finish this season would be more commendable than our two play-off seasons .  The sudden emergence of the "Manchester league " teams has put a very different financial balance giving those teams the monopoly of top half of table positons .
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: kingofnaves on October 22, 2016, 08:50:39 PM
Natt Brown to be in temporary charge? Is this true
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 22, 2016, 09:16:56 PM
Sad
Not since Neil Thompsons outing have I been this disappointed by pressure being brought to bear.

As one or two have said this was always going to be a difficult season......shame others don't realise it.
Should DG move on I'm sure there will be a few players who feel they owe him....the 4 who went to higher clubs...Jordan Richards who got moved positionally and now is a 1st team player. ....

On today's game DG was let down by a few players today....
The scoreline flattered them I felt....I'm sure others will disagree
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 22, 2016, 09:22:04 PM
If he does go wouldn't be surprised to see him somewhere like Braintree
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 22, 2016, 09:22:33 PM
Natt Brown to be in temporary charge? Is this true
Considering DG is actually still in a job (at the moment), how can it be?
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Artemis on October 22, 2016, 09:24:23 PM
It was always going to be a difficult season. Losing most of last season's team,  then a reduced budget.   The way I see it DN didn't want promotion this season because of the new stadium but obviously won't make that public. Hence the reduced budget. However I doubt relegation will be an issue as DN will have to dip into the coffers to bring in better players,  but we aren't there just yet.

Why give Halifax Town the town end when  their supporters could have been accommodated in the usual York Street stand.


Where are you getting the reduced budget thing from? DN actually gave DG a slight increase...

http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/boston-united-overachieved-dennis-greene-says/story-29395256-detail/story.html

Quote
"It doesn't put a massive amount into the budget, just some more. We want to give Dennis the best opportunity we can, but we're not going to spoil things at the club by trying to achieve something that we can't afford.

When did DN announce that the budget was going to be increased?  For instance was it before the season tickets went on sale?

It's in the article. It was given as a part-reason for the price increase.

And that's my point.   

I have heard from 3 different sources that the budget was cut.   Had that been said prior to the sale of season tickets would they have sold as many?

As I see it we struggle at the start of the season because the players we are able to sign aren't good enough because we are unable to pay the going rate.  Then loan players are brought in. That will continue till we move into the new stadium. 
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Winging It on October 22, 2016, 09:47:42 PM
Natt Brown to be in temporary charge? Is this true
Considering DG is actually still in a job (at the moment), how can it be?

I sense another wind up here,  next conspiracy theory or quotes without substance will be ....
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: kingofnaves on October 22, 2016, 09:53:02 PM
To be? Seriously do you think this is a good idea?
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: father Ted on October 22, 2016, 10:14:40 PM
 Being +ve,could get something at Nuneaton ..
  All the broken legs dont help ..
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 22, 2016, 11:45:01 PM

I have heard from 3 different sources that the budget was cut.   Had that been said prior to the sale of season tickets would they have sold as many?

I've given you the ULTIMATE source. The chairman. The one who actually sets the budget. The article came out at the start of the sale of season tickets, during the early bird offer.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Artemis on October 23, 2016, 12:28:53 AM

I have heard from 3 different sources that the budget was cut.   Had that been said prior to the sale of season tickets would they have sold as many?

I've given you the ULTIMATE source. The chairman. The one who actually sets the budget. The article came out at the start of the sale of season tickets, during the early bird offer.

Of course it came out prior to the sale of season tickets.   If the article had said the budget was being reduced (again) what impact do you think that would have on the sale of season tickets?
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: nikko on October 23, 2016, 03:14:34 PM
He was on the end of a proper big time rant from Andy Butler today. No swear words but a very big verbal assault.

TEP

let him have a go seeing as he seems to know everything!!!

Yes we are all waiting to listen for Andy to suggest his business plan and recruiting ideas to turn things round .

still not heard anything....that must be some master plan he's working on.........
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Boo on October 23, 2016, 04:15:04 PM
By his own admission, he doesn't feel that he can take the club any further. I'd therefore be disappointed to see him stay to prove the point.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: The Big M on October 23, 2016, 04:59:13 PM
I had more than one argument with so called fans today who were abusing Dennis.. Was it Den who failed to give red cards to two Halifax players? NO .. Was it Den who didn't award us a penalty only for them to go straight to our end and score? NO . Was Den one of the six who let Simmonds run past and score ? NO . So how the hell is it his fault. He said weeks ago that mid table would be a great season with all the ins and outs yet these no it all no nothings expect us to be on top of the table.
 1 We do NOT have the finances of a lot in our league.
 2 We are NOT full time like some in the league.
 3 Where were these now it all know nothings when we were unbeaten in six?
 Some people are clueless when it comes to football and think you just turn up and the points are ours,no matter what league we are in there are clubs who still see us as a BIG club and want to beat us.  I asked one muppet to give me a name of a replacement and said you have five minutes.after TEN minutes he shrugged his shoulders and said "I dunno" ...

I agree with many parts but not the name a new manger rubbish. We Dont know the ins and outs of finance. We dont keep an eye out in which managers at the level below are doing a good job. We also dont know who may have already been in touch, also ho do we know who would apply. Do i agree with abuse no. The comment of name a new manager is just daft. And not our job
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: lonegunman on October 23, 2016, 05:00:26 PM
I've always liked Den, I know some don't rate him at all. Probably he's had his lot with us, you can see by the players brought in he was on a tight budget. When you have four or five clubs paying way over the odds, you're always going to be on a hiding to nothing. I'll be sorry to see him go, (that is of course if he does go) Who will replace him, Bunny could try and keep us out of the relegation scrap. I can't see  any 'big name' mangers in non league rushing to take his place on the bench.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: green hats mate on October 23, 2016, 05:04:40 PM
He was on the end of a proper big time rant from Andy Butler today. No swear words but a very big verbal assault.

TEP

let him have a go seeing as he seems to know everything!!!

Yes we are all waiting to listen for Andy to suggest his business plan and recruiting ideas to turn things round .

still not heard anything....that must be some master plan he's working on.........

I,m sure it will be worth waiting for nikko !!!!!!
I call myself a friend of Andy and always find him obliging when I speak to him ,  I feel sure he will reveal his master plan to Patter .

I do not do facebook for reasons others on here have expressed ,  however while awaiting Andys response I,ve had a browse through BUFC facebook .   

Andy has really found his comfort zone on there ,   a few contributors that make ridiculous unsustainable ideas and blatant errors .
If you let them run  your household budget you would be spent out one day into your wage packet .  It,s intriguing how some are making comments which clearly indicates that they are not knowledgeable on BUFC facts .

I have added a few helpful replies which Andy can pass on

Selection of comments ......
where has the money from Mills gone ?       :dan       :laugh:                         What money?

only got to play-offs because other teams dropped points  :dan                     same with other play-off teams !!!!

should have kept last seasons players  :dan  none explained how we could have stopped Pidge going abroad ,   or how we could have stopped Mills , Southwell and Felix leaving . did they really expect Liam to stay when he got a club on his doorstep ?

several call for a bigger budget demanding Chestnuts increases the budget (not occurred to then the vast funding already put into club ) yet complain that admission prices increase by a £1.

as always a real hindsight comment thus .....should have kept Garner ,  when Nat Brown came latter part of season and replaced Scott in defence we stopped leaking goals therefore most found it acceptable to let Garner go . If only Greene could see these injuries coming !!!!!!!!!

"can,t work out teams with smaller gates have better players for less money ?"
 
Does not always work that way ,  Den,s teams have finished above higher paid teams ,
Even so a valid question if you cannot work it out .    Easy way round small gates is to follow Fylde and a few others in our league and get a multi-millionaire in .    various other reasons too which may appear in Andys dossier.

Concerning that someone suggested we get a "proper manager " ,  I can recall similar comments in the past .
Anyone any idea what would define a proper manager ?

For all the fantasy ideas and comments made still no one has come up with a suggestion naming a "proper" potential successor to Greene .   



Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: green hats mate on October 23, 2016, 05:19:37 PM
I had more than one argument with so called fans today who were abusing Dennis.. Was it Den who failed to give red cards to two Halifax players? NO .. Was it Den who didn't award us a penalty only for them to go straight to our end and score? NO . Was Den one of the six who let Simmonds run past and score ? NO . So how the hell is it his fault. He said weeks ago that mid table would be a great season with all the ins and outs yet these no it all no nothings expect us to be on top of the table.
 1 We do NOT have the finances of a lot in our league.
 2 We are NOT full time like some in the league.
 3 Where were these now it all know nothings when we were unbeaten in six?
 Some people are clueless when it comes to football and think you just turn up and the points are ours,no matter what league we are in there are clubs who still see us as a BIG club and want to beat us.  I asked one muppet to give me a name of a replacement and said you have five minutes.after TEN minutes he shrugged his shoulders and said "I dunno" ...

I agree with many parts but not the name a new manger rubbish. We Dont know the ins and outs of finance. We dont keep an eye out in which managers at the level below are doing a good job. We also dont know who may have already been in touch, also ho do we know who would apply. Do i agree with abuse no. The comment of name a new manager is just daft. And not our job

Sorry to disagree M,  happens on nearly every forum from time to time ,   take a look at "The New Fishy " today .
Same with speculation on players , happening all he time .
In a case where a manager indicates he wants to leave see no harm whatever in fans speculating who they would like to see manage next . Speculation /predicting is what maintains much interest in football . 
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: garry@ on October 23, 2016, 05:37:54 PM
Well IF Dennis goes, I don't really want him too yet but as he's said he can't take us any further and GHM wants names as replacement managers from fans,
 
I nominate Mr Rob Scott. Rob will also give you a face to face explanation of how he's right.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: lonegunman on October 23, 2016, 05:58:19 PM
Where is Mr Scott by the way?
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: kingofnaves on October 23, 2016, 06:15:10 PM
Doing radio in London.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: kingofnaves on October 23, 2016, 06:18:17 PM
Time for a change.Den has done is best this year.Hes been let down by his new signings or more likely they are not good enough?
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: lonegunman on October 23, 2016, 06:19:13 PM
I see, another 'expert' doing radio. ;)
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 23, 2016, 06:41:00 PM
That'll appease the the critics another Londoner  ;D he would be a poor replacement imo
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 23, 2016, 07:05:03 PM
I had more than one argument with so called fans today who were abusing Dennis.. Was it Den who failed to give red cards to two Halifax players? NO .. Was it Den who didn't award us a penalty only for them to go straight to our end and score? NO . Was Den one of the six who let Simmonds run past and score ? NO . So how the hell is it his fault. He said weeks ago that mid table would be a great season with all the ins and outs yet these no it all no nothings expect us to be on top of the table.
 1 We do NOT have the finances of a lot in our league.
 2 We are NOT full time like some in the league.
 3 Where were these now it all know nothings when we were unbeaten in six?
 Some people are clueless when it comes to football and think you just turn up and the points are ours,no matter what league we are in there are clubs who still see us as a BIG club and want to beat us.  I asked one muppet to give me a name of a replacement and said you have five minutes.after TEN minutes he shrugged his shoulders and said "I dunno" ...

I agree with many parts but not the name a new manger rubbish. We Dont know the ins and outs of finance. We dont keep an eye out in which managers at the level below are doing a good job. We also dont know who may have already been in touch, also ho do we know who would apply. Do i agree with abuse no. The comment of name a new manager is just daft. And not our job

All reasons why we shouldn't be forced to name a replacement... but it works both ways. Are you saying we should never be critical of the job a manager is doing? That's not our job either...
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Johnny Pilgrim on October 23, 2016, 07:20:42 PM
Time for a change.Den has done is best this year.Hes been let down by his new signings or more likely they are not good enough?

hes been let down by our looooong injury list....
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: The Third Twin on October 23, 2016, 07:31:32 PM
Why don't we all just blame Pidge for wanting a life outside football, and may be then Dayle, Zak and Kaine for wanting to better themselves, or maybe we could blame Garns for wanting a better deal, or what about...it doesn't matter who or what is to blame....bottom line, this season we are not good enough as a club, both on and off the field. The only people ultimately responsible for rectifying it or accepting it are the Chestnuts. Time is ticking though, none of us want to be playing NPL football in the new stadium.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 23, 2016, 09:41:06 PM
Shame you have become Evil again :)
Add to that list
Marrs and geography
Two Jones to Peterborough North Star for MORE money.
Plethora of injuries.
Some signings that have not lived up to expectations.
Some Big teams at this level with momentum / sugar daddies

A perfect storm for mid table finish.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Tash on October 23, 2016, 10:00:32 PM
I had more than one argument with so called fans today who were abusing Dennis.. Was it Den who failed to give red cards to two Halifax players? NO .. Was it Den who didn't award us a penalty only for them to go straight to our end and score? NO . Was Den one of the six who let Simmonds run past and score ? NO . So how the hell is it his fault. He said weeks ago that mid table would be a great season with all the ins and outs yet these no it all no nothings expect us to be on top of the table.
 1 We do NOT have the finances of a lot in our league.
 2 We are NOT full time like some in the league.
 3 Where were these now it all know nothings when we were unbeaten in six?
 Some people are clueless when it comes to football and think you just turn up and the points are ours,no matter what league we are in there are clubs who still see us as a BIG club and want to beat us.  I asked one muppet to give me a name of a replacement and said you have five minutes.after TEN minutes he shrugged his shoulders and said "I dunno" ...

I agree with many parts but not the name a new manger rubbish. We Dont know the ins and outs of finance. We dont keep an eye out in which managers at the level below are doing a good job. We also dont know who may have already been in touch, also ho do we know who would apply. Do i agree with abuse no. The comment of name a new manager is just daft. And not our job

Sorry to disagree M,  happens on nearly every forum from time to time ,   take a look at "The New Fishy " today .
Same with speculation on players , happening all he time .
In a case where a manager indicates he wants to leave see no harm whatever in fans speculating who they would like to see manage next . Speculation /predicting is what maintains much interest in football .

Kevin Wilkin
Lee Sinnot
Gregg Strong
Mark Robins
Neil Redfearn
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: father Ted on October 23, 2016, 10:21:20 PM
Brave man ..
 If the manager leaves , I would try one from below Conf North level .
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: The Third Twin on October 23, 2016, 10:26:07 PM
Shame you have become Evil again :)
Add to that list
Marrs and geography
Two Jones to Peterborough North Star for MORE money.
Plethora of injuries.
Some signings that have not lived up to expectations.
Some Big teams at this level with momentum / sugar daddies

A perfect storm for mid table finish.
i can't see anything to happy clap about, so my yin has become my yang, and when we are looking at a chink of light at the end of that proverbial tunnel, i shall once more clap with the happiest supporters. But until then, the darkness in my Pilgrim heart has once again fallen...
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Artemis on October 24, 2016, 12:02:42 AM
Steve Evans is without a job at present...... .















And that remains the case no matter what happens at BUFC
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Tash on October 24, 2016, 08:34:42 AM
Steve Evans is without a job at present...... .















And that remains the case no matter what happens at BUFC

Plenty available here......http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: father Ted on October 24, 2016, 09:03:00 AM
Theres a good few Scots there ..
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Lee Newell on October 24, 2016, 09:20:41 AM
I hope Dennis reads this thread (and the other with the subject 'Vile') and sees that the majority of fans want him to stay and are backing him.

Some of the mentioned people that are calling for Dennis to go gave the same treatment to past managers, Drury, Taylor, Lee, Evans and Thompson all got this treatment after losing a match or 2. I remember Thompson in a similar situation at this time of year after an indifferent start, then the Chairman persuaded him to stay and things moved forward.

We have to acknowledge that we've had rotten luck with injuries this season that would have affected any team had they had some many key players out injured. A real shame to see Agnew added to the injury list, he's a quality player and we'll miss him. Results have picked up since he came back.

I thought Halifax were one of the better sides that have come to York Street this season. However, I don't think we handled Denton well on the day, looks like there was a plan on for him but it didn't work well. There was clearly some positives though, we didn't give up when we were losing, getting it back to 2-1 then trying to go for the equaliser but got caught short in defence on the break and Halifax took there last to goals well with 2 very well taken goals. Though the left back looked good and has strengthened defence, but errors again for other defenders cost us goals.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 24, 2016, 09:25:01 AM
Ev*ns is a possibility for the MK Dons job - a match made in hell.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: howmanynames2pick on October 24, 2016, 10:45:52 AM
I hope Dennis reads this thread (and the other with the subject 'Vile') and sees that the majority of fans want him to stay and are backing him.

Some of the mentioned people that are calling for Dennis to go gave the same treatment to past managers, Drury, Taylor, Lee, Evans and Thompson all got this treatment after losing a match or 2. I remember Thompson in a similar situation at this time of year after an indifferent start, then the Chairman persuaded him to stay and things moved forward.

We have to acknowledge that we've had rotten luck with injuries this season that would have affected any team had they had some many key players out injured. A real shame to see Agnew added to the injury list, he's a quality player and we'll miss him. Results have picked up since he came back.

I thought Halifax were one of the better sides that have come to York Street this season. However, I don't think we handled Denton well on the day, looks like there was a plan on for him but it didn't work well. There was clearly some positives though, we didn't give up when we were losing, getting it back to 2-1 then trying to go for the equaliser but got caught short in defence on the break and Halifax took there last to goals well with 2 very well taken goals. Though the left back looked good and has strengthened defence, but errors again for other defenders cost us goals.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: kingofnaves on October 24, 2016, 11:19:39 AM
Taylor,Lee and Thompson were good managers and also nice people off the pitch.More than I can say for some!!!!!
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: green hats mate on October 24, 2016, 11:25:34 AM
I hope Dennis reads this thread (and the other with the subject 'Vile') and sees that the majority of fans want him to stay and are backing him.

Some of the mentioned people that are calling for Dennis to go gave the same treatment to past managers, Drury, Taylor, Lee, Evans and Thompson all got this treatment after losing a match or 2. I remember Thompson in a similar situation at this time of year after an indifferent start, then the Chairman persuaded him to stay and things moved forward.

We have to acknowledge that we've had rotten luck with injuries this season that would have affected any team had they had some many key players out injured. A real shame to see Agnew added to the injury list, he's a quality player and we'll miss him. Results have picked up since he came back.

I thought Halifax were one of the better sides that have come to York Street this season. However, I don't think we handled Denton well on the day, looks like there was a plan on for him but it didn't work well. There was clearly some positives though, we didn't give up when we were losing, getting it back to 2-1 then trying to go for the equaliser but got caught short in defence on the break and Halifax took there last to goals well with 2 very well taken goals. Though the left back looked good and has strengthened defence, but errors again for other defenders cost us goals.

I think its clear that Patter posters are mainly with you on this Lee,  we reflect on what a difficult job it is for a manager recruiting players to play in a Lincolnshire outpost and the big problems not of his own making that have confronted DG this season .

Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: green hats mate on October 24, 2016, 11:30:50 AM
Taylor,Lee and Thompson were good managers and also nice people off the pitch.More than I can say for some!!!!!

Yes and the same people who abuse DG abused them .   It has to be said TT and JL record was not a patch on Green,s but nonetheless no excuse for the vile slung at Tommy and Jason .
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Dipdodah on October 24, 2016, 12:26:45 PM
Taylor,Lee and Thompson were good managers and also nice people off the pitch.More than I can say for some!!!!!

Yes and the same people who abuse DG abused them .   It has to be said TT and JL record was not a patch on Green,s but nonetheless no excuse for the vile slung at Tommy and Jason .

I agree, okay this is possibly the worst team I have seen in the last few years, but we do not know all the facts.

How many players did DG try to sign and was turned down?

What is the playing budget?

And what was Smith doing on Saturday?  He seemed uninterested all match, possibly our best player was never in the match.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 24, 2016, 12:54:55 PM
Taylor,Lee and Thompson were good managers and also nice people off the pitch.More than I can say for some!!!!!

Taylor did well first season, but couldn't motivate the squad in the level below so rightly got sacked. Jason Lee was mediocre - we played good football, but didn't get the results. Neil Thompson - another one who did well in adversity (siege mentality?), but wasn't able to take us to the next level (mid-table).

None of them will appear on a list of greatest ever BUFC managers. Greene may do, because of our consistent high-placed finishes.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Burgh Boy on October 24, 2016, 01:17:43 PM
Unless anyone knows any different, I think we can now safely assume with the lack of an announcement from the club, that DG is staying on! Roll on Saturday. On the positive side, we are only 11 points from the play off zone with most of the teams above us quite beatable. The season has another 6 full months to run so achieving 5th place is still well within our grasp.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 24, 2016, 02:18:59 PM
I think we can now safely assume with the lack of an announcement from the club, that DG is staying on!

Really? It's probable that DN and DG are meeting up to discuss the future today or tomorrow (before training tomorrow night). DG didn't hang around long on Saturday.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: kingofnaves on October 24, 2016, 02:27:37 PM
Do you think Den will go to Grimsby?
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Cavalier on October 24, 2016, 02:47:14 PM
I want DG to stay.

How on earth could he have foreseen the catalogue of injuries we have had.  This on top of completely rebuilding the team, not because the previous one was not good enough, but because he had improved several players so they were ready to go higher.  Our geographical position and lack of funds compared to many of our rivals make it more difficult to attract quality players, yet DG's record has been impressive.  Six league games without defeat go unmentioned by the detractors, but they come out with abuse when we lose to a match.
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: mike brolly boots on October 24, 2016, 02:50:24 PM
Do you think Den will go to Grimsby?

Was thinking the same
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: lonegunman on October 24, 2016, 03:07:34 PM
Do you think Den will go to Grimsby?

Was thinking the same

What are the chances the cod heads had a word with DG before Saturday, they probably already knew their manager was doing a bunk.
Don't you just love a conspiracy theory  ;)
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: The Big M on October 24, 2016, 06:45:06 PM
I had more than one argument with so called fans today who were abusing Dennis.. Was it Den who failed to give red cards to two Halifax players? NO .. Was it Den who didn't award us a penalty only for them to go straight to our end and score? NO . Was Den one of the six who let Simmonds run past and score ? NO . So how the hell is it his fault. He said weeks ago that mid table would be a great season with all the ins and outs yet these no it all no nothings expect us to be on top of the table.
 1 We do NOT have the finances of a lot in our league.
 2 We are NOT full time like some in the league.
 3 Where were these now it all know nothings when we were unbeaten in six?
 Some people are clueless when it comes to football and think you just turn up and the points are ours,no matter what league we are in there are clubs who still see us as a BIG club and want to beat us.  I asked one muppet to give me a name of a replacement and said you have five minutes.after TEN minutes he shrugged his shoulders and said "I dunno" ...

I agree with many parts but not the name a new manger rubbish. We Dont know the ins and outs of finance. We dont keep an eye out in which managers at the level below are doing a good job. We also dont know who may have already been in touch, also ho do we know who would apply. Do i agree with abuse no. The comment of name a new manager is just daft. And not our job

All reasons why we shouldn't be forced to name a replacement... but it works both ways. Are you saying we should never be critical of the job a manager is doing? That's not our job either...

I'm unaware of any point I said people couldn't be critical. Just think its daft to ask a fan to name a replacement
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Burgh Boy on October 24, 2016, 07:08:56 PM
I think we can now safely assume with the lack of an announcement from the club, that DG is staying on!

Really? It's probable that DN and DG are meeting up to discuss the future today or tomorrow (before training tomorrow night). DG didn't hang around long on Saturday.

Well it appears that he is staying. However, if you do see him tomorrow and sadly we are proved wrong, please could you inform us. Cheers!
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Pilgrim86 on October 24, 2016, 07:20:29 PM
I think we can now safely assume with the lack of an announcement from the club, that DG is staying on!

Really? It's probable that DN and DG are meeting up to discuss the future today or tomorrow (before training tomorrow night). DG didn't hang around long on Saturday.

Well it appears that he is staying. However, if you do see him tomorrow and sadly we are proved wrong, please could you inform us. Cheers!

Ah, so you were wrong?  :bunny

Why would I see him tomorrow? I don't work or live with him  ???  Why don't you let the press give you your news... like most people.

http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/dennis-greene-to-stay-on-as-boston-united-boss-after-positive-talks-with-chairman/story-29836109-detail/story.html

http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/sport/football/boston-united/greene-for-stay-boss-dennis-to-remain-at-boston-united-following-crunch-talks-with-chairman-david-newton-1-7644070
Title: Re: Greene considering future
Post by: Burgh Boy on October 24, 2016, 08:32:48 PM
I think we can now safely assume with the lack of an announcement from the club, that DG is staying on!

Really? It's probable that DN and DG are meeting up to discuss the future today or tomorrow (before training tomorrow night). DG didn't hang around long on Saturday.

Well it appears that he is staying. However, if you do see him tomorrow and sadly we are proved wrong, please could you inform us. Cheers!

Ah, so you were wrong?  :bunny

Why would I see him tomorrow? I don't work or live with him  ???  Why don't you let the press give you your news... like most people.

http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/dennis-greene-to-stay-on-as-boston-united-boss-after-positive-talks-with-chairman/story-29836109-detail/story.html

http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/sport/football/boston-united/greene-for-stay-boss-dennis-to-remain-at-boston-united-following-crunch-talks-with-chairman-david-newton-1-7644070

Why was I wrong? I said he was staying did I not? Duh! Anyway, thank you for providing the relevant links.