Pilgrims' Patter
The Forum => The B-Ark => Topic started by: Pilgrim86 on September 13, 2016, 10:02:04 PM
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Credit to the players for not accepting just a point, and to keep going for the winner.
8) 8)
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tremendous entertainment from start to finish....Alfreton lost the plot completely following the award of Uniteds penalty and the sending off of Edmundson...credit to Cameron Johnson for making an {unexpected} impact in his cameo appearance...and what a winner from Gregg Smith!
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Thought we had lost it when their second went in.....
A draw would have felt like a win,,,,,,glad the players disagreed.
Fantastic finish..and great example of why you shouldn't leave a game early ...!!
Pleased for DG and MB...
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Gregg Smith deserved his goal kept going against 3 big defenders often getting no reward for his endeavors. Would be a lot happier if the defence took charge and stopped the sloppy errors. Let's hope a cup run is something to look forward too.
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Some of our post-match posters seem to have disappeared the last 3 matches .
Gregg Smith deserved his goal kept going against 3 big defenders often getting no reward for his endeavors. Would be a lot happier if the defence took charge and stopped the sloppy errors. Let's hope a cup run is something to look forward too.
My thoughts exactly Mike .
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Some of our post-match posters seem to have disappeared the last 3 matches .
Gregg Smith deserved his goal kept going against 3 big defenders often getting no reward for his endeavors. Would be a lot happier if the defence took charge and stopped the sloppy errors. Let's hope a cup run is something to look forward too.
My thoughts exactly Mike .
I'm one who's stopped posting. I deleted all my recent posts and stopped posting due to being incredibly fed up with the infighting. It's mindless and boring, and gone on far too long. Great result and great performance today. That's the most important thing. We've got team spirit at last. Shame it's not the same here on patter, though.
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How the hell did we win that? but we did and I suppose that is all that matters. Oh how we need a decent center half we really are leaking some sloppy goals simply by being just brushed off the ball and not making instant decisions and taking command of situations. Ah well it's three points and I am grateful for that and grateful to Smithy for his great efforts good to see he has just signed a two year deal.
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Some of our post-match posters seem to have disappeared the last 3 matches .
Gregg Smith deserved his goal kept going against 3 big defenders often getting no reward for his endeavors. Would be a lot happier if the defence took charge and stopped the sloppy errors. Let's hope a cup run is something to look forward too.
My thoughts exactly Mike .
I'm one who's stopped posting. I deleted all my recent posts and stopped posting due to being incredibly fed up with the infighting. It's mindless and boring, and gone on far too long. Great result and great performance today. That's the most important thing. We've got team spirit at last. Shame it's not the same here on patter, though.
Yes you come on after a win and give praise if deserved , some sit at home twiddling there thumbs waiting for the next defeat .
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Play offs here we come. Ain't no stopping us now - McFadden and Whitehead. DG is a god after all!
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Some of our post-match posters seem to have disappeared the last 3 matches .
Gregg Smith deserved his goal kept going against 3 big defenders often getting no reward for his endeavors. Would be a lot happier if the defence took charge and stopped the sloppy errors. Let's hope a cup run is something to look forward too.
My thoughts exactly Mike .
I'm one who's stopped posting. I deleted all my recent posts and stopped posting due to being incredibly fed up with the infighting. It's mindless and boring, and gone on far too long. Great result and great performance today. That's the most important thing. We've got team spirit at last. Shame it's not the same here on patter, though.
Yes you come on after a win and give praise if deserved , some sit at home twiddling there thumbs waiting for the next defeat .
sadly i've had more than enough of it all. I genuinely used to enjoy the debate that went backwards and forwards with this topsy turvy season. It's got to the point of I can't be doing with getting involved any more. It's not a debate in some areas but a mindless hate campaign. I'd prefer not to give my opinion as I only allow myself to be frustrated by some replies. United is a word often typed on here, yet seldom happens.
However, tonight WELL DONE Dennis, Bunny and the team. Fantastic spirit, fantastic result. Hope your "thumb twiddlers" hit the happy button, just for once.
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I don't generally post after games, but spent my hour+ drive home thinking about the game. I agree with the comments about crediting the players for keeping going and showing resolve. The result papers over certain cracks, though. We gave them their first goal, but when we equalised for the first time I thought we would put them under pressure. But no; we put ourselves under pressure by more or less gifting them another. I may be proved wrong when the highlights are available, but from where I was the penalty looked distinctly fortunate - but it was a great header by Smith to win it. I wasn't impressed by DG's unnecessarily triumphalist antics as he left the pitch, and these only go to reinforce the impression of his character I get from time to time. Again, I may be reading things wrongly. In my view, he'd be far better off concentrating on sorting out our deficiencies at the back, making sure that we don't constantly attempt the headline 30/40 yard passes which go astray rather than the easier and shorter option (some of our passing tonight was woeful), and harnessing the obvious passion of Gregg Smith to as many other players as possible. Having said this, we had some very good passages of play tonight, and are clearly a better side than we were two or three weeks ago. I hope we're going in the right direction.
Up the Pilgrims!
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Couldn't agree more OP - well said.
TEP
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Hardly surprising that Den celebrated like he did at the end after the abuse one "fan" gave him at half time,he blamed Den for the goal,how it can be the managers fault when he is at the dug out is beyond me,anyhow said fan got warned by a steward (in a friendly way) ..
Smithy took his goal well considering he had been dragged to the floor,he got up when he saw the ball crossed in and rose to head home whereas others may well have stayed down,it is this spirit and attitude that have made him a fans favourite...... Maybe it wasn't a penalty but Magoo had missed loads of fouls in the box (inc elbows on Greg) so we should have got one anyway..
Wish the Town End could keep the noise going all match though instead of periodically but at least there was an atmosphere unlike last week..
Onto the cup and hopefully into the hat on Monday :)
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Oh how we need a decent center half we really are leaking some sloppy goals simply by being just brushed off the ball and not making instant decisions and taking command of situations.
I see on the news that the UK is currently warmer than Thailand. Somebody better tell Pidge. That's exactly the type of player we need.
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Oakham pilgrim basically sums it all up for me.
Can't beat a last min winner!
Well done to everyone involved that includes us fans for the buzz around the old ground in the 2nd half.
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Word for word my thoughts there OP.
How long will we go on saying individual mistakes, when it's easier just to say Maguire. Really hope he improves but just look back and he is the common link to the soft goals (not all of course but more than fair share).
Let's have a tight, no nonsense display on Saturday, bank the cash and get in the hat.
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On my annual jolly in Great Yarmouth so missed the game. Well done lads.
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Result was good, albeit very lucky. Had we not won a penalty, resulting in a man off, it would have been a different story. I still feel we don't have enough firepower to be play off contenders, and the defense is still under performing but the result all the same is very welcome and we are moving in the right direction. Praise must be made for the team though,and for the manager who made the right changes. And this leads me onto the flashpoint of the night as reports are showing ... according to those reports, a few fans in the main stand behind the dugout were abusing the home bench with what was termed derogatory and personal abuse, aimed at the manager who made some changes. When these changes proved to bring us the win, this is when the manager cupped his hands to his ears, and rightly so ! We all have a right to our opinions, but its how we construct them and voice them that can be the issue more times that not. When the red rag rages inside, its easy to go over the top.
I'm with the happy clapping twin on all this, its becoming embarrassing all this infighting with abuse from all sides and needs to stop.
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I saw both MB and DG turning towards the stand.
It must be difficult to restrain yourself when you have a constant ear bashing.
I fail to understand what this person is trying to achieve
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Leftback - I don't think play offs will happen. Not just because of lack of firepower but because at the other end of the pitch. I reckon we need two new centre halves. Maguire may be ok to play alongside a bit of an 'Alan White' type character but as the main man in defence he is being exposed week in, week out.
Interesting about the abuse towards the bench. I also had loads of text abuse from my mates during the game saying we are this, that and the other and losing again and going down etc etc. Big lesson here is that they (as with the fans behind the dugout) should wait until the game is over before gobbing off like that. Obviously haven't played the game themselves or they would understand things can change in an instant.
On the subject of abuse, a guy behind the Away dugout was really losing it during the first half - a proper Mr Angry - aiming stuff all over the place - at both sets of players and the officials. Nicky Law the Alfreton manager went over to him and gave him a very calm and measured explanation as to why he should relax a little and think about the example he was setting to others around him - and his two young children - both of whom I would add were using the 'C' word on occasion - and these are primary school kids.
Interesting night anyway. Think if Alfreton had come at us on full gas for longer periods rather than trying to hold on to what they had then they would have gone away with 3 points. As it is, we are three unbeaten (and still in the FA Cup) :)
TEP
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I saw both MB and DG turning towards the stand.
It must be difficult to restrain yourself when you have a constant ear bashing.
I fail to understand what this person is trying to achieve
While i support all fans having a view, no matter from what angle etc, good or bad, i strongly object to personal abuse like that has being suggested happened last night. It then comes to a point when you have to question just where you draw a line, and should the stewards have taken a sterner stance, and ejected said person/persons. I really don't want any of our fan base to be ejected, but there comes a point when abuse oversteps the mark.
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Leftback - I don't think play offs will happen. Not just because of lack of firepower but because at the other end of the pitch. I reckon we need two new centre halves. Maguire may be ok to play alongside a bit of an 'Alan White' type character but as the main man in defence he is being exposed week in, week out.
Interesting about the abuse towards the bench. I also had loads of text abuse from my mates during the game saying we are this, that and the other and losing again and going down etc etc. Big lesson here is that they (as with the fans behind the dugout) should wait until the game is over before gobbing off like that. Obviously haven't played the game themselves or they would understand things can change in an instant.
On the subject of abuse, a guy behind the Away dugout was really losing it during the first half - a proper Mr Angry - aiming stuff all over the place - at both sets of players and the officials. Nicky Law the Alfreton manager went over to him and gave him a very calm and measured explanation as to why he should relax a little and think about the example he was setting to others around him - and his two young children - both of whom I would add were using the 'C' word on occasion - and these are primary school kids.
Interesting night anyway. Think if Alfreton had come at us on full gas for longer periods rather than trying to hold on to what they had then they would have gone away with 3 points. As it is, we are three unbeaten (and still in the FA Cup) :)
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TEP,
i agree our defense is a weakness also, we have good playmakers but no strength at the back and not enough firepower up top, although the big man is doing us proud. As for the endless quotes of "we're going down" etc, didn't we have all this the last two seasons during the few few months of each season ! While we might not make the play offs this year, we certainly won't be going down. Its just a knee jerk reaction, by those that are angry with the manager, or as recently, even our chairman. As with this guy with kids, dear oh dear.... bad parenting first and foremost. But if that was what they were like, they need to be pointed out to the stewards as they are in what should be a family enclosure. And these people wonder why gates are going down hey !!
Lets all lay down the grievances, and move forward together. Its the only way this club can achieve what it wants to achieve.
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Changing the subject, in all the excitement (!) I missed who was awarded MOM. St Juste? Smith? perhaps someone can enlighten me.
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I saw both MB and DG turning towards the stand.
It must be difficult to restrain yourself when you have a constant ear bashing.
I fail to understand what this person is trying to achieve
While i support all fans having a view, no matter from what angle etc, good or bad, i strongly object to personal abuse like that has being suggested happened last night. It then comes to a point when you have to question just where you draw a line, and should the stewards have taken a sterner stance, and ejected said person/persons. I really don't want any of our fan base to be ejected, but there comes a point when abuse oversteps the mark.
The obvious answer to this problem is to move the dug outs to Spayne Lane where where the management would always receive total support and extremely friendly advice.
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Changing the subject, in all the excitement (!) I missed who was awarded MOM. St Juste? Smith? perhaps someone can enlighten me.
Jason St Juste was chosen as the Pilgrims' MOTM.
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May I have my say on the constant abuse Dennis gets from behind the dugout. As I sit on my own behind it you must all be talking about me. I have chats with Dennis we don't always agree but in no way do I constantly abuse him. So please get your facts right. The so called abuse comes from the back of the stand. And I have on more than one occasion asked that man why he bothers coming. Just wanted to put you straight thanks for the chance to get the facts out
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I think we were very lucky to get the win but I would take that every game. I think what upset some fans was marshal being substituted. Dennis said he took him off because he was at fault for the second goal. Even though everyone thought he was playing well and nobody got taken off after the first goal. And a few more players were having worse games. So not really constant abuse just opinions
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Marshall is turning into a key player for us, with his versatility. He seems to glide past players when he dribbles, a bit like Ricky Miller did - just without the explosion at the end!
I think we need an Ellender/Richard Jones-type centre-back alongside either Robinson or Maguire. Can we clone Smith and convert him to a centre-back?
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Oh how we need a decent center half we really are leaking some sloppy goals simply by being just brushed off the ball and not making instant decisions and taking command of situations.
I see on the news that the UK is currently warmer than Thailand. Somebody better tell Pidge. That's exactly the type of player we need.
He's moving to Melbourne, permanently.
Arse.
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May I have my say on the constant abuse Dennis gets from behind the dugout. As I sit on my own behind it you must all be talking about me. I have chats with Dennis we don't always agree but in no way do I constantly abuse him. So please get your facts right. The so called abuse comes from the back of the stand. And I have on more than one occasion asked that man why he bothers coming. Just wanted to put you straight thanks for the chance to get the facts out
Well said Mick, hopefully that will stop leftback trying to make something out of nothing,
I heard no derogatory or personal abuse just the usual moaning.
Sometimes I have a moan but really don't mind eating humble pie when DG does his tactical master stroke as I'm sur you don't mind either 😀😀
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Mr Leftback does not even attend games, so cannot really comment on what happens inside the ground.
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Mr Leftback does not even attend games, so cannot really comment on what happens inside the ground.
Bang out of order ! If this profile as i was told is that of Mr Walden then you should know that over the last half a dozen years i have not missed that many home games at all, up until that is around six months ago when i was struck down with an illness. I think you need to retract your statement. Also, are you stating that anyone that does not attend a game, home or away, can then not have an opinion of the said game ?!!!
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Credit to the Big Boy .. ;)
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Match winner signs two year deal. Well done to him. A very different sort of striker who we haven't really seen under DG.
http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/sport/boston-united/exclusive-boston-united-and-gregg-smith-agree-two-year-deal-1-7576168
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May I have my say on the constant abuse Dennis gets from behind the dugout. As I sit on my own behind it you must all be talking about me. I have chats with Dennis we don't always agree but in no way do I constantly abuse him. So please get your facts right. The so called abuse comes from the back of the stand. And I have on more than one occasion asked that man why he bothers coming. Just wanted to put you straight thanks for the chance to get the facts out
Well said Mick, hopefully that will stop leftback trying to make something out of nothing,
I heard no derogatory or personal abuse just the usual moaning.
Sometimes I have a moan but really don't mind eating humble pie when DG does his tactical master stroke as I'm sur you don't mind either 😀😀
I would love Dennis to get manager off the year because that would mean we would have got promoted and I'm sure that's what everyone wants
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Mr Leftback does not even attend games, so cannot really comment on what happens inside the ground.
Bang out of order ! If this profile as i was told is that of Mr Walden then you should know that over the last half a dozen years i have not missed that many home games at all, up until that is around six months ago when i was struck down with an illness. I think you need to retract your statement. Also, are you stating that anyone that does not attend a game, home or away, can then not have an opinion of the said game ?!!!
I was stating a fact, that you do not attend games (currently). Whether you have or have not attended 100%, 50%, 1% of matches previously matters little to the subject in hand. Nobody has mentioned your personal circumstances, except yourself - which is entirely up to you.
You're basing your opinion on the hearsay of others. It wouldn't stand up in court...
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Mr Leftback does not even attend games, so cannot really comment on what happens inside the ground.
Bang out of order ! If this profile as i was told is that of Mr Walden then you should know that over the last half a dozen years i have not missed that many home games at all, up until that is around six months ago when i was struck down with an illness. I think you need to retract your statement. Also, are you stating that anyone that does not attend a game, home or away, can then not have an opinion of the said game ?!!!
I was stating a fact, that you do not attend games (currently). Whether you have or have not attended 100%, 50%, 1% of matches previously matters little to the subject in hand. Nobody has mentioned your personal circumstances, except yourself - which is entirely up to you.
You're basing your opinion on the hearsay of others. It wouldn't stand up in court...
You mention only talking about the subject in hand, yet then go off topic by stating about my recent attendance record Scotty ? That has nothing to do with it. I really don't understand just what your agenda is with me by actually coming on here making snide comments about it. Are you honestly saying that only those that attend the said match discussed, have a right to a view on this issues of the night ?
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ObmYFwT6nU8
DG post Alfreton interview.
A call for unity ....
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Mr Leftback does not even attend games, so cannot really comment on what happens inside the ground.
Bang out of order ! If this profile as i was told is that of Mr Walden then you should know that over the last half a dozen years i have not missed that many home games at all, up until that is around six months ago when i was struck down with an illness. I think you need to retract your statement. Also, are you stating that anyone that does not attend a game, home or away, can then not have an opinion of the said game ?!!!
I was stating a fact, that you do not attend games (currently). Whether you have or have not attended 100%, 50%, 1% of matches previously matters little to the subject in hand. Nobody has mentioned your personal circumstances, except yourself - which is entirely up to you.
You're basing your opinion on the hearsay of others. It wouldn't stand up in court...
You mention only talking about the subject in hand, yet then go off topic by stating about my recent attendance record Scotty ? That has nothing to do with it. I really don't understand just what your agenda is with me by actually coming on here making snide comments about it. Are you honestly saying that only those that attend the said match discussed, have a right to a view on this issues of the night ?
I only mentioned your attendance record, based on this game, as you weren't there and therefore relying on hearsay to make a judgement. The same as if I don't attend the game, I don't get involved in the discussion about what may or may not have happened.
It only takes one person to fabricate a story, or misunderstand something (a bit like Theo Street and the 'racial' incident at Solihull last season - that was something about nothing) and it can boil over unneccessarily.
It's nothing personal.
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Mr Leftback does not even attend games, so cannot really comment on what happens inside the ground.
Bang out of order ! If this profile as i was told is that of Mr Walden then you should know that over the last half a dozen years i have not missed that many home games at all, up until that is around six months ago when i was struck down with an illness. I think you need to retract your statement. Also, are you stating that anyone that does not attend a game, home or away, can then not have an opinion of the said game ?!!!
I was stating a fact, that you do not attend games (currently). Whether you have or have not attended 100%, 50%, 1% of matches previously matters little to the subject in hand. Nobody has mentioned your personal circumstances, except yourself - which is entirely up to you.
You're basing your opinion on the hearsay of others. It wouldn't stand up in court...
You mention only talking about the subject in hand, yet then go off topic by stating about my recent attendance record Scotty ? That has nothing to do with it. I really don't understand just what your agenda is with me by actually coming on here making snide comments about it. Are you honestly saying that only those that attend the said match discussed, have a right to a view on this issues of the night ?
I only mentioned your attendance record, based on this game, as you weren't there and therefore relying on hearsay to make a judgement. The same as if I don't attend the game, I don't get involved in the discussion about what may or may not have happened.
It only takes one person to fabricate a story, or misunderstand something (a bit like Theo Street and the 'racial' incident at Solihull last season - that was something about nothing) and it can boil over unneccessarily.
It's nothing personal.
I appreciate what you are saying about misunderstanding what happens if you are not there, but my thoughts about what happened was based on the accounts of a few fans who witnessed it and messaged myself, and also what was witnessed by our Katie on the bench, she explained in detail about the abuse on the other forum, and i don't doubt any of them at all.
I also appreciate you stating its nothing personal, although you are still saying your quote about my attendance record was based purely on this game, but your original quote was "does not even attend games" meaning just that, "games", and not this single game. So i hope you can see how it would be interpreted.
I'm willing to draw a line under this whole silly episode now, we all need to get on with supporting this team.
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Mr Leftback does not even attend games, so cannot really comment on what happens inside the ground.
Bang out of order ! If this profile as i was told is that of Mr Walden then you should know that over the last half a dozen years i have not missed that many home games at all, up until that is around six months ago when i was struck down with an illness. I think you need to retract your statement. Also, are you stating that anyone that does not attend a game, home or away, can then not have an opinion of the said game ?!!!
I was stating a fact, that you do not attend games (currently). Whether you have or have not attended 100%, 50%, 1% of matches previously matters little to the subject in hand. Nobody has mentioned your personal circumstances, except yourself - which is entirely up to you.
You're basing your opinion on the hearsay of others. It wouldn't stand up in court...
You mention only talking about the subject in hand, yet then go off topic by stating about my recent attendance record Scotty ? That has nothing to do with it. I really don't understand just what your agenda is with me by actually coming on here making snide comments about it. Are you honestly saying that only those that attend the said match discussed, have a right to a view on this issues of the night ?
I only mentioned your attendance record, based on this game, as you weren't there and therefore relying on hearsay to make a judgement. The same as if I don't attend the game, I don't get involved in the discussion about what may or may not have happened.
It only takes one person to fabricate a story, or misunderstand something (a bit like Theo Street and the 'racial' incident at Solihull last season - that was something about nothing) and it can boil over unneccessarily.
It's nothing personal.
I appreciate what you are saying about misunderstanding what happens if you are not there, but my thoughts about what happened was based on the accounts of a few fans who witnessed it and messaged myself, and also what was witnessed by our Katie on the bench, she explained in detail about the abuse on the other forum, and i don't doubt any of them at all.
I also appreciate you stating its nothing personal, although you are still saying your quote about my attendance record was based purely on this game, but your original quote was "does not even attend games" meaning just that, "games", and not this single game. So i hope you can see how it would be interpreted.
I'm willing to draw a line under this whole silly episode now, we all need to get on with supporting this team.
/ United we stand....divided we fall.