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Title: todays game
Post by: doc on May 08, 2016, 03:33:13 PM
Not going very well at present
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Ernie100 on May 08, 2016, 04:56:15 PM
lost 3-0 we just didn't seem to have turned up, didn't sound as though we had a decent shot on target all game.   ah well, it might be our turn next season.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: doc on May 08, 2016, 05:00:10 PM
Sounds like first penalty was dubious
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: howmanynames2pick on May 08, 2016, 05:02:31 PM
So disappointed after Wednesday exploits.
Also surprised it took Denton to get to 86 minutes of the second game before getting booked...
Hey ho. ....move on. New stadium new league
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: green hats mate on May 08, 2016, 05:29:43 PM
All went pear shaped at the vital game after a great run in .

Good news is DG has said on radio that he will continue next season .
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: garry@ on May 08, 2016, 05:31:19 PM
Gutless performance
Load of crap deserve nothing
Playing like that.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Burgh Boy on May 08, 2016, 06:17:56 PM
Absolutely gutted......
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Greengrass on May 08, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
Penalty was dubious to say the least! Ref never gave it, was down to the linesman. Stewarding was an absolute joke, not surprised trouble flared up.
Gutted, gutted, gutted.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: oxo on May 08, 2016, 07:17:21 PM
Pathetic is the only way to describe that performance. Okay the penalty was a very poor decision by the linesman and officials were again very poor in general. Time for a clear out now as this league looks as if it will be the toughest yet. I would like to see the following retained if they will agree to stay, Garner, Speis, Southwell, Mills, Marrs, McAvoy, Rollins, Felix, Roberts, Brown, Richard Jones, and get rid of the rest some of who don't seem particularly bothered about wearing the shirt.
I have to say I was disgusted with the riff raff that jumped on the bandwagon last couple of games, throwing flares on to the pitch, throwing coins, lighters and cans at their players thank god they won't be there next season until we challenge again
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Winging It on May 08, 2016, 07:44:57 PM
Pathetic is the only way to describe that performance. Okay the penalty was a very poor decision by the linesman and officials were again very poor in general. Time for a clear out now as this league looks as if it will be the toughest yet. I would like to see the following retained if they will agree to stay, Garner, Speis, Southwell, Mills, Marrs, McAvoy, Rollins, Felix, Roberts, Brown, Richard Jones, and get rid of the rest some of who don't seem particularly bothered about wearing the shirt.
I have to say I was disgusted with the riff raff that jumped on the bandwagon last couple of games, throwing flares on to the pitch, throwing coins, lighters and cans at their players thank god they won't be there next season until we challenge again

Agree with your first points on the team retained list, but i would add Mark Jones who in my eyes is a good worker for the team and would be a good person to have in certain situations.

Regarding a small section of the fans, they should be named and shamed in my honest opinion, then banned by the club.  We don't need these drunken idiots at the games. Give them a shandy and they become morons. Talking of which, i hear there is some potential slanderous claims about the manager circulating on social media, i would hope that the club investigates fully.

Here's to a calming summer for all, time for de-stressing and time for reflecting. Lets all come back stronger, and back whoever is in charge, fully !  Happy summer peeps  8)
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: wayne, york pilgrim on May 08, 2016, 08:22:25 PM
Such a shame today that we didn't perform well. Only came close to scoring near the end. Also the ref again. How they cannot see the elbows is making me think that forces are at play. Amazing turnout from the Boston fans, at least 1600 but we didn't come out looking good. There was a lot to be frustrated about but shouldn't be throwing glasses and other things at the players.
What I cannot understand is how these grounds actually come up to the required standards. One stand and six stewards yet next season they may be playing for a place in the football league. Imagine a home tie with grimsby.
 I know there were a few trouble makers there today but was the police helicopter necessary. Let's hope we don't get a big policing bill .
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Tash on May 08, 2016, 08:26:57 PM
We just didn't seem to have a game plan today. The players looked hesitant and not sure whether to sit back or push on, the officials didn't help but we got what we deserved in the first half. I thought we looked more positive second half but the game was beyond us by then.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: wayne, york pilgrim on May 08, 2016, 08:42:36 PM
http://youtu.be/hJabSHZokMk

Today's penalty incident
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: BostonGoals on May 08, 2016, 08:42:46 PM
It's more annoying when you see how we played in the home leg, but I thought we did extremely well to make the play-offs considering we had such a dreadful March.

Of our three play-off teams I think this is the weakest, last years I thought was the strongest and then 10-11 in second. Den's got a big job on his hands now to not only strengthen but replace some big players, Pidge and Southwell (I'll be surprised if he isn't playing Conference football for someone next season). I still think he's done a cracking job on getting together a playoff team on what's probably a mid-table budget, but he can't afford another summer like the last one, that's where the damage was done.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Artemis on May 08, 2016, 08:51:31 PM
Boston started slowly and had that penalty not been awarded and the slow motion video shows it should have been a free kick to Boston. Had we weathered the initial onslaught (as to be expected) from Ferriby I am sure the team would have settled down and the outcome may have been completely different.

So for the 3rd season in a row we have been done by penalties.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Pilgrim86 on May 08, 2016, 09:10:49 PM
All 3 goals. Shows Nat Brown being floored by another elbow, but the ref ignoring him...

https://youtu.be/UdDZNFUEnSA
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: leicester pilgrim on May 08, 2016, 09:12:05 PM
I have to say I was disgusted with the riff raff that jumped on the bandwagon last couple of games, throwing flares on to the pitch, throwing coins, lighters and cans at their players thank god they won't be there next season until we challenge again

I agree, and it gets worse. I've just clicked on a link from the Hull Daily Mail and it looks like a couple of our "fans" were arrested for assaulting a North Ferriby fan wearing a hearing aid and glasses. It doesn't make for good reading, does it? You can kind of understand the presence of the police helicopter if they were looking for someone.

http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Search-North-Ferriby-United-fan-assaulted-play/story-29246001-detail/story.html

If found guilty, ban them for life!

On the subject of flares being thrown onto the pitch, you've got to ask a huge question of North Ferriby in terms of why spectators weren't being searched on entry. Presumably somebody had a carrier bag full of them and they should have been stopped from taking them inside.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: BostonGoals on May 08, 2016, 09:32:07 PM
Hopefully strong action will be taken against those responsible today, the Chestnuts have put in too much hard work restoring the clubs name for idiots to ruin it.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: AdyG on May 08, 2016, 10:08:20 PM
I have to say I was disgusted with the riff raff that jumped on the bandwagon last couple of games, throwing flares on to the pitch, throwing coins, lighters and cans at their players thank god they won't be there next season until we challenge again

I agree, and it gets worse. I've just clicked on a link from the Hull Daily Mail and it looks like a couple of our "fans" were arrested for assaulting a North Ferriby fan wearing a hearing aid and glasses. It doesn't make for good reading, does it? You can kind of understand the presence of the police helicopter if they were looking for someone.

http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Search-North-Ferriby-United-fan-assaulted-play/story-29246001-detail/story.html

If found guilty, ban them for life!

On the subject of flares being thrown onto the pitch, you've got to ask a huge question of North Ferriby in terms of why spectators weren't being searched on entry. Presumably somebody had a carrier bag full of them and they should have been stopped from taking them inside.

Seems a very biased report regarding the flares, both sets of fans were guilty of throwing them onto the pitch, ferriby fans threw 2 flares on during play (play was stopped for a few mins while the stewards walked around the pitch to collect them). I only saw the aftermath of trouble but it looked like hangbags at ten paces, maybe in big important games the fans should be segregated.

The players struggled today against a physical side and really poor officials. I thought Zak was our best player today (probably our most consistent this season), he seemed to be left very isolated at times.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: scot on May 08, 2016, 10:33:45 PM
Very clear that Denton got Carl in a headlock and pulled him on top for the 'penalty'. They continued to cheat throughout the game because the officials'let them'. Why is this? Not saying we turned up today zak Mills being one of those that did but the standard of these officials brings the game into disrepute and makes you wonder!
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Dipdodah on May 09, 2016, 08:28:48 AM
I have had a night to sleep on the result, so hopefully this is an unbiased opinion.

Yet again we have been let down by the officials, it seems every important match we have, we have to play 12 men, and yesterday 13.  I do not know if you noticed but the home fans applauded every decision by the ref, as if they knew they were getting the rub.  The officials had a hand in all the goals.  The first was a VERY DODGY penalty.  The second was a corner from a free kick that should have been awarded to us. The third was after Nat Brown was laid out by yet another elbow. This is after the Jeremy Beadle lookalike ref on Wednesday, who was instrumental in us only having a 2 goal lead. I have said it once and I will say it again, we are still carrying the stigma of the Evans era.

I think the players had the stuffing knocked out of them by the bad decisions yesterday and it reflected in the way they played.  They were never at the game.  Why oh way do we play the high, long ball tactic against one of the biggest teams in the league?  It does not work, it proves that after the three defeats we have had against them this season.

It is the first time I have been to that ground, how can that be up to any kind of standard?  Never mind league standard.  Only one entrance and exit.  No segregation, you could see trouble was going to start.  I agree with OXO name and shame get the trouble makers banned, we are always going to be given an hard time by officials if we cannot get rid of the nasty taste of the Evans era and hooligan fans is not going to help.  If anyone else saw the game different please comment.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Boston forever on May 09, 2016, 09:55:15 AM
Regarding the arrests, I have never seen them at a Boston game before, they weren't even watching game, spent whole time taunting ferriby fans, he just layed into their fan, IF he is from Boston then should be banned for life
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: miele on May 09, 2016, 10:08:44 AM
after the first goal wasit bostons plan to go all out for a goal of our own,                I just cant believe we never had a goal in us             
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: soccermad67 on May 09, 2016, 10:51:15 AM
My wife and i went to the game, lets start with the stewards lets say all 6 of them, need to be trained in all aspects of crowd control ,we talk to one steward he says he was from City(must have been Hull City)
The game itself; the ref was very poor yet again, the linesman who gave the pen, not the ref, was poor.Boston Utd was hurtled out of the way.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on May 09, 2016, 11:12:28 AM
The penalty decision was laughable – truly ridiculous – but to try and blame the officials for our performance yesterday is a bit daft. We were abysmal, plain and simple. Pierluigi Collina could have reffed yesterday and we’d still have lost. Nope, this one rests squarely with the team, a fact the players themselves were able to acknowledge with a little more grace than some of the fans I listened to yesterday, blathering on about ‘FA conspiracies’ as though it was 2003 all over again. Quite how we managed to be so dire is mystifying given recent performances, but we were and Ferriby deserved to go through, however horrible it is to admit.

As for the crowd trouble, you have to marvel at the stupidity of Ferriby’s stewarding arrangements, or lack thereof. I watched a group of Boston fans break away from the main lot in the stand and tracked them as they walked around the ground, shoving past people on the way. It was obvious they weren’t going for a piss or a pie, and were instead heading to ‘occupy’ the Ferriby end. Why none of the five Ferriby stewards clocked them is beyond me. And a massive well done to the supporters who bravely took on the 14 year old Ferriby fans and upset a good number of Boston fans – including some teenage girls - in that part of the ground in the process. Absolute heroes.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: hozzer on May 09, 2016, 11:53:21 AM
like a few on here I've waited a while until I put my views in writing.

If we take both game overall we were pretty much matched, we were brilliant Wednesday and Ferriby didnt get a look in it and yesterday it was a total role reversal.

The refs in both games were shockers, Wednesdays one should have sent Denton off after the first fore arm smash againt Pidge (didn't even speak to him), then the one against Nat Brown (didnt even speak to him), Scott garner, (didnt speak to him), 5 yard run smashing Roberts across the face, yellow card, it became laughable, he booked McEvoy for a shirt pull on the half way line but Ferribys number 8 sliced down Hilliard from the back when we were in an attacking position and didnt go for a card.
Yesterday the lino gave the penalty, bizarre. Not sure Speiss was fouled for the 2nd but the third after Denton had felled Brown leaving us no cover, head injury, allowed play to go on and goal. Oh and lets not forget Denton whacked Hilliard and only got a yellow. Dont want it to sound sour grapes but the refereres had a major impact on the game's.

On the other hand if we had played just ok yesterday we might have been looking to a trip to Fylde next Saturday. This team are either brilliant playing free flowing attacking football scoring hatfulls or we cant defend for toffee. We need some new personnel so we can win ugly, something Den's teams over the last 3 years just cant seem to do.

Dont like talking about total w***ers that think its big and clever to take on young kids but they need a trip to court. Whats so disappointing is that around 1,500 fans went and supported BUFC without any trouble and a few idiots give us all a bad name. If time travel was possible I would send them to Millwall in the 70's and 80's and see if they feel so clever and macho then.

 
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Maxross on May 09, 2016, 02:36:34 PM
The narrative of the story so far appears to be that a big Boston crowd of troublemakers have come in and caused lots of problems for a friendly little village club.  In many ways that true, there was some pretty poor behaviour on show from some of the hangers on that will inevitably turn up on this kind of occasion.  However, that was true of both sides yesterday and having witnessed plenty of transgressions from both sets of fans I feel it’s necessary to add a bit of balance.  I would also note that the vast majority of the 2000+ there from both sides were able to watch the game in an unsegregated ground without any issues whatsoever (I stood next to some Ferriby fans and was able to respectfully disagree over the penalty without getting clubbed to death).

With all that in mind, the question for would be “were these event’s foreseeable?” and the answer is a resounding yes.  In fact with the layout of the ground and the marshalling strategy (or lack of), I would say they were almost guaranteed in my opinion. 

Boston are well known to take high numbers of travelling supporters and, as already mentioned, inevitably trouble causers will attach themselves to these types of big occasions.  That’s not an attempt to somehow justify their actions, it’s just pointing out an unfortunate reality.  Likewise, North Ferriby is in close proximity to Hull and it wouldn’t have taken much at all for some local troublemakers to have come along.  With all this in mind, you have to have a strategy in place to deal with these eventualities.  Sadly, it appeared there was none present. 

My initial observations were as follows.  There appeared to be a group of youngsters linked with North Ferriby keen to cause some trouble and that had already started when I entered the ground at approx. 14.15 with them standing adjacent to the already congregating travelling contingent.  There were some very minor scuffles even at that point. At that point, I could only see 3 stewards who appeared woefully out of their depth.  They attempted to clear the group but they were able to keep returning.  Boston fans threw smoke bombs onto the pitch before the game and North Ferriby fans were also throwing smoke bombs and some on the pitch after they scored early on.

I scanned around the stadium and noted that there was a single entrance and exit.  The areas behind the goals were incredibly cramped with many spectators unintentionally blocking what also served as access routes to and from other areas of the ground.  As the toilet and refreshment facilities were located in one stand, this would ensure a permanent stream of individuals walking up and down all match. There was absolutely no segregation and no facility for segregation, with the result being fans of both sides being interspersed with one another.
 
I have since heard reports of 6 stewards being on duty, if so, that’s a 100% increase on my estimate.  However, this is still woefully inadequate for a 2000+ crowd.  If just 1% of the crowd, i.e. 20 people, had begun fighting, that would have left the ratio of stewards to fans at almost 1:4.  I literally thought after about 1 minute of surveying the situation that there was going to be trouble.  Luckily, that trouble seems to have ended up being relatively small compared to what might have happened.

All this has led me to wonder how on earth this stadium could host Conference National football.  Let’s be honest, there are some big ex Football League clubs it is simply not fit for purpose to deal with big games.  When I look back at the times Boston were forced to carry out all sorts of remedial work at York Street in order to secure promotion, I wonder how on earth this ground would be deemed suitable. 

I will end this rather long post by saying that while any kind of assault is abhorrent and I certainly do not condone the actions of morons purporting to be football fans assaulting people.  However, I think North Ferriby the conference and the F.A. need to take a long look at these arraignments and acknowledge that the current situation is simply not fit for purpose and make sure that steps are put into practice now to deal with games of this stature.  I brought my youngsters along and I had genuine concerns for their safety at times which is a very great shame for non-league football.

P.S.
I am not inferring in the slightest that this had any bearing on the final score whatsoever before I’m accused of sour grapes.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Pete Brooksbank on May 09, 2016, 03:35:02 PM
I literally thought after about 1 minute of surveying the situation that there was going to be trouble.  Luckily, that trouble seems to have ended up being relatively small compared to what might have happened.

Spot on. The moment I saw the dickheads mingling, I thought the same. What transpired was actually quite minor, but had the match been more dramatic (i.e., if Boston had actually made a game of it and had emotions been running high) then things may well have turned very ugly indeed.

Well done to the police for blocking the exit with a car as well, just as 2,000+ people wanted to leave. Amazing work.

Honestly - some of the decisions made yesterday were breathtakingly thick.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Ferret on May 09, 2016, 04:44:30 PM
....some of us found the small fire exit in the back of the main only stand which made for a quick getaway.

Got to agree with all the comments on here, the ground and staff were woefully unprepared and short of numbers to deal with any sort of crowd. Heaven knows how they'll cope if they go up and the likes of Tranmere, Lincoln and Wrexham show up with a larger travelling support that we had. At one point, there seemed to be a major issue developing with our fans filling the end of the stand and sheer numbers preventing folk getting through, whilst more streamed towards the area from the turnstiles with no marshalling whatsoever. 

Think this is the right document - http://www.thefa.com/~/media/files/pdf/my-football/grade-a-may-2015.ashx?la=en - a lot of work to do
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Winging It on May 09, 2016, 07:34:50 PM
I didn't make the game, but reading what you guys are saying, yes, Ferriby should have done more regarding stewarding. But would that still have stopped these clown thugs from entering and more to the point, giving BUFC a bad name yet again ?
I seems we have had a season of fan issues, racist shouts, aggression to staff on the benches, hate chants, chants about Dens girlfriend been a whore as the idiots put it,  and dare i say it, we now have a serious accusation about our manager which i am sure many of you have seen on social media, and which nobody so far on here has commented about.  Personally, i think our beloved club and Mr Newton needs to treat all these issues with zero tolerance, and out anyone who is not representing BUFC in the correct manner,  which may i say finally, 95% of us all do ! We have a great set of fans on the whole, lets not let a couple of dozen ruin it for us.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: oxo on May 09, 2016, 07:57:15 PM
....some of us found the small fire exit in the back of the main only stand which made for a quick getaway.

Got to agree with all the comments on here, the ground and staff were woefully unprepared and short of numbers to deal with any sort of crowd. Heaven knows how they'll cope if they go up and the likes of Tranmere, Lincoln and Wrexham show up with a larger travelling support that we had. At one point, there seemed to be a major issue developing with our fans filling the end of the stand and sheer numbers preventing folk getting through, whilst more streamed towards the area from the turnstiles with no marshalling whatsoever.



 

Think this is the right document - http://www.thefa.com/~/media/files/pdf/my-football/grade-a-may-2015.ashx?la=en - a lot of work to do


Well Pat having read that document I have to say that if Ferriby are promoted there is no way they will be able to achieve the requirements, it would require a completely new stadium along with the stewarding requirements. I know there is a 12 months grace to allow for improvement but this is an impossibility. There was talk of using Hull Kingston Rovers rugby league ground but according to the document they must play at a stadium in or close to North Ferriby itself and HKR is the other side of Hull.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: howmanynames2pick on May 09, 2016, 08:00:05 PM
hasnt the money gone ? (the Hull city connection)
isn't the club for sale?
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Ken Fox on May 09, 2016, 08:38:03 PM
My usual set of snaps are in the usual public Facebook photo album:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10154165194239282.1073741970.570994281&type=1&l=e4284d4df6 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10154165194239282.1073741970.570994281&type=1&l=e4284d4df6)

Title: Re: todays game
Post by: The Third Twin on May 09, 2016, 09:09:12 PM
Ken, your picture of Denton's foul on Lewis is perfect proof of the crap that bloke dishes out  great picture of a poor "tackle".
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: green hats mate on May 09, 2016, 09:21:18 PM
....some of us found the small fire exit in the back of the main only stand which made for a quick getaway.

Got to agree with all the comments on here, the ground and staff were woefully unprepared and short of numbers to deal with any sort of crowd. Heaven knows how they'll cope if they go up and the likes of Tranmere, Lincoln and Wrexham show up with a larger travelling support that we had. At one point, there seemed to be a major issue developing with our fans filling the end of the stand and sheer numbers preventing folk getting through, whilst more streamed towards the area from the turnstiles with no marshalling whatsoever.



 

Think this is the right document - http://www.thefa.com/~/media/files/pdf/my-football/grade-a-may-2015.ashx?la=en - a lot of work to do


Well Pat having read that document I have to say that if Ferriby are promoted there is no way they will be able to achieve the requirements, it would require a completely new stadium along with the stewarding requirements. I know there is a 12 months grace to allow for improvement but this is an impossibility. There was talk of using Hull Kingston Rovers rugby league ground but according to the document they must play at a stadium in or close to North Ferriby itself and HKR is the other side of Hull.

I think the Conference administration are seeing the hens come home to roost ,  about 5 years ago K Lynn were kicked out of the CN for not meeting the requirements in time , one of the conditions not fulfilled on time was the upsizing of the refs dressing rooms .
Any fool could see their ground was superior to many in the present CN and even Con PREM .   Importantly the ground lent itself to easy segregation .  I guess the ground capacity is about 5k .

According to present figures NFU ground capacity is 2.5k  .  I would guess depending on their league position at the time but it is very likely Tranmere , Wrexham would take 2k plus fans ,  Lincoln (only 40 miles) on a good run would take 3k plus , York likewise .
If Grimsby miss promotion they will take 4k fans .

Sunday was a good run out for the Humberside force to assess the capacity to stage a match with a 2k crowd , difficult to see anything over 2k permitted with segregation implemented .

This leaves the club having to make 5 of the matches all ticket with not enough tickets to meet demand .   I think after Sunday the ground Safety Advisory Group including Humberside police will realise with three of the teams being in proximity to NF this would create a risk of ticketless fans turning up .

Taking oxo,s comments on board I think the Conference and the S.A.G with safety factors in mind  cannot risk any other option but to order NFU to play their games at the KC Stadium .

Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Tash on May 09, 2016, 10:20:44 PM
Reading those rules for ground grading I think Melchester Rovers have a better chance of getting promoted to the national league than Ferriby. :dan
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: The Third Twin on May 09, 2016, 10:32:21 PM
Reading those rules for ground grading I think Melchester Rovers have a better chance of getting promoted to the national league than Ferriby. :dan
Apparently the bookies are offering seemingly impossible odds of 5000-1 for exactly this!
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Ken Fox on May 09, 2016, 10:37:25 PM
Here's a selection of snaps for those who don't do Facebook. I think I almost got every Boston player being fouled. :)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun1.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun2.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun3.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun4.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun5.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun6.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun7.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun8.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun9.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun10.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun24.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun11.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun12.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun13.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun14.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun15.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun16.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun17.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun23.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun18.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun19.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun22.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun20.jpg)

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun21.jpg)
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Pilgrim86 on May 10, 2016, 09:23:01 AM
hasnt the money gone ? (the Hull city connection)
isn't the club for sale?

Yep. Again. Unsurprisingly, nobody sees them as a worthwhile asset!
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Maxross on May 10, 2016, 11:27:15 AM
Just as an additional final comment, I've been doing some risk assessment stuff at work today and stumbled upon this quote:

"Accidents, including serious ones, can happen, but the duty of care demands that you take steps to prevent what might reasonably be foreseen."

Pretty sure North Ferriby failed miserably on that front.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Ferret on May 10, 2016, 11:42:51 AM
Ken, in your picture of the Ferriby Massive, is the guy in the blue top and black cap actually holding a smoke canister? Might be worth forwarding onto the Hull Daily Mail  :laugh:
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: bostonwoody on May 10, 2016, 12:46:28 PM
Ken, in your picture of the Ferriby Massive, is the guy in the blue top and black cap actually holding a smoke canister? Might be worth forwarding onto the Hull Daily Mail  :laugh:

Also note the "fans" on the pitch. Any other ground I've been to they would have been immediately removed
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Cavalier on May 10, 2016, 02:41:49 PM
Ken, in your picture of the Ferriby Massive, is the guy in the blue top and black cap actually holding a smoke canister? Might be worth forwarding onto the Hull Daily Mail  :laugh:

It looks like a mobile phone taking a pic although there must be photos of the canister throwers.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: ceamboy on May 10, 2016, 03:12:38 PM

Look straight above the lad in red trousers looking back into the crowd, and you see a lad in a white tee shirt wearing a baseball cap holding a flare in his right hand, which is emitting toxic fumes according to the lad to his left who is holding his nose. Expand the picture and you will see it's a flare emitting green smoke.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Ferret on May 10, 2016, 03:16:49 PM
Good spot ceamboy, good face shot as well.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Cavalier on May 10, 2016, 04:18:35 PM
Good spot ceamboy, good face shot as well.

Really good spot.  Well done!  That wraps up the case for the prosecution m'lord.
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: beefpilgrim on May 10, 2016, 05:54:47 PM
That green smoke was choking!
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Ken Fox on May 10, 2016, 07:15:06 PM
Here's another shot of one of the lads letting off the green smoke flares.

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun25.jpg)
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: York Street Pilgrim on May 10, 2016, 07:34:42 PM
Here's another shot of one of the lads letting off the green smoke flares.

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun25.jpg)

Here's an interesting article on the law in relation to possession of flares at football stadia.

http://www.fsf.org.uk/assets/Smoke-Bombs-Flares-and-Fireworks-Factsheet-for-FSF.pdf

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It is also an offence for a person under the age of 18 to be found carrying a firework in a public place.

Now I'm no expert on ageing people, but I'm sure I had more of a five o'clock shadow than this guy when I was 18. He looks comfortably under 18 to me.

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The police can issue an £80 fixed penalty notice to anyone under the age of 18 found in possession of a firework in a public place.

Ken, can you find an email address and send your evidence to Humberside Police. Frankly this should be sufficient evidence to hit him where it hurts - in the pocket.

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It is highly likely that the court will impose a football banning order on a fan who is convicted of possession of a firework, flare or smoke bomb at a football match. The very nature of the offence means that the prosecution are likely to be able to persuade the court that the office is football related, and that it is necessary to impose the order to prevent the offence happening again.

Add to this the fact that the flare is in the colours of North Ferriby and I don't think any court in the land would see this as not football related.

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Most football banning orders imposed by a court after a conviction for a football related offence are for 3 years.

... meaning North Ferriby will probably have gone bust by the time he's free to attend another match. Still, at least he'll be shaving by then.

Title: Re: todays game
Post by: Ken Fox on May 10, 2016, 08:07:29 PM
And the lad in the dark blue top and cap with his back to us who was holding up the flare in the first shot, turned round and stood next to his mate after he'd thrown the flare onto the pitch. Here's what he looks like.

(http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/nofun26.jpg)
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: bostonwoody on May 10, 2016, 08:28:41 PM
The other point of interest in this photo is the steward. This is the guy who I spoke to at 1410 and warned him that the Ferriby "fans" were looking for trouble. He promptly warned them that any trouble and they would be evicted from the ground, and then promptly went and stood across the other side of the ground.

This photo was taken after the second Ferriby goal, some 16 minutes into the game. The police finally arrived approximately 85 minutes into the game. When I complained to a person seemingly in authority, leastwise he was wearing a Ferriby club tie and operating the gate from the pitch, about the lack protection offered to visitors to the club I was told "not to be so stupid" and that it was "due to response times."

The arrogance of stupidity!!

Title: Re: todays game
Post by: doc on May 10, 2016, 09:02:42 PM
Every photo with Denton in looks like a wrestle/foul
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: York Street Pilgrim on May 10, 2016, 09:56:54 PM

I think I've finally worked out why the ref awarded the penalty ...

(http://s32.postimg.org/ebtrn0r6d/Penalty.jpg)
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: howmanynames2pick on May 10, 2016, 10:03:21 PM

I think I've finally worked out why the ref awarded the penalty ...

(http://s32.postimg.org/ebtrn0r6d/Penalty.jpg)
Brilliant...
Also from Impstalk and still funny
http://www.impstalk.co.uk/rough_guides/opposition/north_ferriby_united.htm
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: The Third Twin on May 10, 2016, 10:55:05 PM
Every photo with Denton in looks like a wrestle/foul
  that's because each one was, is, and will be again next year, and the year after, and, ok, you get the rest....
Title: Re: todays game
Post by: garry@ on May 10, 2016, 11:19:25 PM
I stood in that stand for first 25 minutes of second half,
All them in photos and the 2 twins ?? Found it amusing to goad our
Followers, to join them after their 3rd goal, unfortunately for them
Our followers that day obliged and mingled between them I can pick
2 of the older NFU adults out in the photo's who I witnessed throw the first punches
This caused the scuffle in that end of the ground.

What I then saw was the man with the hearing aid and glasses throwing punches as he had
Been hit in the Melee.
I spoke to this man shortly afterwards, I was buying a cup of tea and stood near corner flag
He was a little shaken but said he was okay and wasn't going to be frightened by them and returned
To his position in the stand.

Well done Mr Fox as always great photos.