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Title: Dennis Greene
Post by: Gus on March 19, 2016, 05:04:47 PM
IN or OUT?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: father Ted on March 19, 2016, 05:12:10 PM
Wouldnt dare speculate..not at the game.
 Not having the best luck defence-wise are they ?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Dipdodah on March 19, 2016, 05:22:35 PM
In.

But better improve.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Lee Newell on March 19, 2016, 05:51:15 PM
In. Even though we're on a bad run, not the right time for a change. Could still get a playoff spot, only 1 point off. At the beginning of the season  a playoff spot would have been seen as  a satisfactory season.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: spannerman on March 19, 2016, 06:09:06 PM
Out ,more of a revolving door than evan's .
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: howmanynames2pick on March 19, 2016, 06:22:06 PM
Out ,more of a revolving door than evan's .
In.
The only way you avoid a revolving door is to have a big budget, players on contracts etc.
We've played with a core of five or six regulars. The rest fringe or loan players.
He's doing a juggling act and would guess it's as frustrating for him as it is for us to watch.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: milo1972 on March 19, 2016, 06:23:23 PM
Awful performance from both teams this afternoon. Boston never had a `PLAN B`. Long ball , direct approach is not for the pilgrims. If we had passed the ball better, got it wide more often to Rollins and Felix , the result may have been different.

Just feel we are not good enough. Too many different players coming and going. Never seem to have a settled team.

As for the managers position, now is not the right time to change. Lets see where we are at the end of the season.

On a positive note, i thought Nat Brown was the best player on the pitch today.

Lets aim for 6 points from Brackley and Tamworth. The play off dream is slipping BUT NOT YET !

UTP
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Burgh Boy on March 19, 2016, 06:27:03 PM
As a positive, glad to see Harry Limb and Harry Payne from the Youth set up earn a place on the bench.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: oxo on March 19, 2016, 07:02:31 PM
In or out? was the question and what a ridicules question it was. There can be no question of changing the manager at this point in the season for many obvious reasons. As I said last week until we are in the new stadium and have the resources to put together a settled squad will we be capable of promotion. I also said last week that we have a new defender who is clearly out of his depth, unfortunately because of injuries and suspensions there was no alternative today. Thought it very strange Robinson was substituted as he looked the one most likely to, Jones must be well peed off. I am afraid it will be down to a lot of luck to make the play offs but hey where there's hope and all that.   UTP. 
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: green hats mate on March 19, 2016, 07:12:06 PM
In .
    Agree with milo,s comments .

   Nat Brown fully deserved MOM award ,   kept tabs on Denton better than Pidge usually does .

   Change manager ?    who better is available ?    any suggestions .

   When a manager goes they usually take a few of the better players with them is another factor to consider .
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Winging It on March 19, 2016, 07:25:49 PM
IN  !!!   Only the seasonal moaners are calling for him out, same as they call for players out after a couple of games, how they call for reduced match price tickets, how they moan about the new stadium,  i mean..... give them a new manager, or a new squad next season, and i'll give them two games before the moans start over,  lol.   Any investors from our moaning minnie group please feel free to fund this 30 goal a season man that you so so want.

Now for some seriousness -   i believe that we have the right man in charge, we just need to rebuild next season and make sure we have a team in place to hit the ground running.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: kingofnaves on March 19, 2016, 07:27:32 PM
Billy from North Ferriby ! Who would Den take?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: green hats mate on March 19, 2016, 07:40:40 PM
Billy from North Ferriby ! Who would Den take?

Depending where he went but probably more than Billy would bring from NFU !
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Captain Clean on March 19, 2016, 08:22:36 PM
Now for some seriousness -   i believe that we have the right man in charge, we just need to rebuild next season and make sure we have a team in place to hit the ground running.

So are you now admitting this team isn't good enough to make the playoffs ? If you are, isn't that a criticism of the manager, since he's ultimately responsible for signing the players he's brought in over the season. I recall you saying we will easily make the playoffs. We should of hit the ground running this summer. We had the crux of a decent side from last season.

I could see the writing on the wall several months ago. Several posters tried to dismiss my concerns at the time. The management failed to adapt as the season was closing in on the most important part. We needed to bolster the team, not unsettle it with loan after loan player, some of them being out their depth. I take on board the injuries we've had, but our bench has been sparse at the best of times. You can't change a game when there's no game changers to bring on and taking the best players off like today. Playing lads out of position is crazy. Oxo mentioned the defensive problem we had with the lad who clearly looked uncomfortable. We come up against good opposition and somehow are expected to be competitive with a makeshift team, it's simply not going to work.  Any momentum we had has vanished. The team is constantly being changed and the players cannot adapt to these changes.

The manager will have roughly the same budget next season and possibly a harder task to build a promotion chasing team since I can envisage half this current team being let go. It was a much easier task this season in terms of recruiting 3-4 much needed players, building upon last seasons squad. Yet it appears the players and management are slowly undoing the hard work they put in during the first 3 quarters of the season.

By all means stick with him for another season and see what he achieves. If it's not a playoff place next time round, I'd like to think we'd consider looking for a replacement.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: The Third Twin on March 19, 2016, 09:25:05 PM
Now for some seriousness -   i believe that we have the right man in charge, we just need to rebuild next season and make sure we have a team in place to hit the ground running.

So are you now admitting this team isn't good enough to make the playoffs ? If you are, isn't that a criticism of the manager, since he's ultimately responsible for signing the players he's brought in over the season. I recall you saying we will easily make the playoffs. We should of hit the ground running this summer. We had the crux of a decent side from last season.

I could see the writing on the wall several months ago. Several posters tried to dismiss my concerns at the time. The management failed to adapt as the season was closing in on the most important part. We needed to bolster the team, not unsettle it with loan after loan player, some of them being out their depth. I take on board the injuries we've had, but our bench has been sparse at the best of times. You can't change a game when there's no game changers to bring on and taking the best players off like today. Playing lads out of position is crazy. Oxo mentioned the defensive problem we had with the lad who clearly looked uncomfortable. We come up against good opposition and somehow are expected to be competitive with a makeshift team, it's simply not going to work.  Any momentum we had has vanished. The team is constantly being changed and the players cannot adapt to these changes.

The manager will have roughly the same budget next season and possibly a harder task to build a promotion chasing team since I can envisage half this current team being let go. It was a much easier task this season in terms of recruiting 3-4 much needed players, building upon last seasons squad. Yet it appears the players and management are slowly undoing the hard work they put in during the first 3 quarters of the season.

By all means stick with him for another season and see what he achieves. If it's not a playoff place next time round, I'd like to think we'd consider looking for a replacement.


You make some very valid points. Many posters on here hate anything negative said about Dennis, but the reality is, that he has chopped and changed and his style has killed the momentum. His time is up, and the sooner the self labelled "happy clappers" on here smell the roses and stop accepting a substandard leader the better. I watched Jonah at the end as he threw his bib to the floor in disgust at the final whistle. DG madness overlooking yet again a player he has championed who clearly doesn't fit his plans any more. It's a different excuse from him every week, but for one, I'm tired of the cr*p he comes out with. The next man through DG's revolving door should be him. And before anyone asks the obvious who would do a better job? The easy answer is anyone, as DG has lost the plot, the dressing room and with the exception of 10 or so happy clappers on this forum, has also lost many fans if what could be heard at the end of the game was anything to go by. Sad end to a promising season.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Winging It on March 19, 2016, 09:32:53 PM
Now for some seriousness -   i believe that we have the right man in charge, we just need to rebuild next season and make sure we have a team in place to hit the ground running.

So are you now admitting this team isn't good enough to make the playoffs ? If you are, isn't that a criticism of the manager, since he's ultimately responsible for signing the players he's brought in over the season. I recall you saying we will easily make the playoffs. We should of hit the ground running this summer. We had the crux of a decent side from last season.

I could see the writing on the wall several months ago. Several posters tried to dismiss my concerns at the time. The management failed to adapt as the season was closing in on the most important part. We needed to bolster the team, not unsettle it with loan after loan player, some of them being out their depth. I take on board the injuries we've had, but our bench has been sparse at the best of times. You can't change a game when there's no game changers to bring on and taking the best players off like today. Playing lads out of position is crazy. Oxo mentioned the defensive problem we had with the lad who clearly looked uncomfortable. We come up against good opposition and somehow are expected to be competitive with a makeshift team, it's simply not going to work.  Any momentum we had has vanished. The team is constantly being changed and the players cannot adapt to these changes.

The manager will have roughly the same budget next season and possibly a harder task to build a promotion chasing team since I can envisage half this current team being let go. It was a much easier task this season in terms of recruiting 3-4 much needed players, building upon last seasons squad. Yet it appears the players and management are slowly undoing the hard work they put in during the first 3 quarters of the season.

By all means stick with him for another season and see what he achieves. If it's not a playoff place next time round, I'd like to think we'd consider looking for a replacement.

That is some assumption given my wording.  Rebuilding could be in the higher league, could it not ? Are we out of the play offs yet, of course not !  I still believe that we can make them, but today's result has made the job just a little bit harder. If we don't make them, we have still proved that we are highly competitive in what is now, a competitive league, like it or not. We have no given right to be out of this league by stature or status, we need to stop living in the past.  We are what we are, and we are good enough to be in the next league, we just need to keep fighting.  And apparently to the "newbie " Evil Twin, keep happy clapping !!  Its better to be someone positive that a seasonal anti greene out campaigner who had a bitter falling out with him.  Sad, sad, sad.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Shauneyg on March 19, 2016, 09:49:26 PM
The question of Greene in or out is irrelevant as he is under contract for next season so will be here next season..
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: green hats mate on March 19, 2016, 10:01:00 PM
Now for some seriousness -   i believe that we have the right man in charge, we just need to rebuild next season and make sure we have a team in place to hit the ground running.

So are you now admitting this team isn't good enough to make the playoffs ? If you are, isn't that a criticism of the manager, since he's ultimately responsible for signing the players he's brought in over the season. I recall you saying we will easily make the playoffs. We should of hit the ground running this summer. We had the crux of a decent side from last season.

I could see the writing on the wall several months ago. Several posters tried to dismiss my concerns at the time. The management failed to adapt as the season was closing in on the most important part. We needed to bolster the team, not unsettle it with loan after loan player, some of them being out their depth. I take on board the injuries we've had, but our bench has been sparse at the best of times. You can't change a game when there's no game changers to bring on and taking the best players off like today. Playing lads out of position is crazy. Oxo mentioned the defensive problem we had with the lad who clearly looked uncomfortable. We come up against good opposition and somehow are expected to be competitive with a makeshift team, it's simply not going to work.  Any momentum we had has vanished. The team is constantly being changed and the players cannot adapt to these changes.

The manager will have roughly the same budget next season and possibly a harder task to build a promotion chasing team since I can envisage half this current team being let go. It was a much easier task this season in terms of recruiting 3-4 much needed players, building upon last seasons squad. Yet it appears the players and management are slowly undoing the hard work they put in during the first 3 quarters of the season.

By all means stick with him for another season and see what he achieves. If it's not a playoff place next time round, I'd like to think we'd consider looking for a replacement.


You make some very valid points. Many posters on here hate anything negative said about Dennis, but the reality is, that he has chopped and changed and his style has killed the momentum. His time is up, and the sooner the self labelled "happy clappers" on here smell the roses and stop accepting a substandard leader the better. I watched Jonah at the end as he threw his bib to the floor in disgust at the final whistle. DG madness overlooking yet again a player he has championed who clearly doesn't fit his plans any more. It's a different excuse from him every week, but for one, I'm tired of the cr*p he comes out with. The next man through DG's revolving door should be him. And before anyone asks the obvious who would do a better job? The easy answer is anyone, as DG has lost the plot, the dressing room and with the exception of 10 or so happy clappers on this forum, has also lost many fans if what could be heard at the end of the game was anything to go by. Sad end to a promising season.

I don,t think people will take you seriously ET

Welcome back .

Remember 2 days ago you told us you had finished on here due to naughty happy clappers having the cheek to disagree with you ?

Recall a poster doing the same thing a few months ago .  8).    Was  it  your twin ?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: The Third Twin on March 19, 2016, 10:22:07 PM
Now for some seriousness -   i believe that we have the right man in charge, we just need to rebuild next season and make sure we have a team in place to hit the ground running.

So are you now admitting this team isn't good enough to make the playoffs ? If you are, isn't that a criticism of the manager, since he's ultimately responsible for signing the players he's brought in over the season. I recall you saying we will easily make the playoffs. We should of hit the ground running this summer. We had the crux of a decent side from last season.

I could see the writing on the wall several months ago. Several posters tried to dismiss my concerns at the time. The management failed to adapt as the season was closing in on the most important part. We needed to bolster the team, not unsettle it with loan after loan player, some of them being out their depth. I take on board the injuries we've had, but our bench has been sparse at the best of times. You can't change a game when there's no game changers to bring on and taking the best players off like today. Playing lads out of position is crazy. Oxo mentioned the defensive problem we had with the lad who clearly looked uncomfortable. We come up against good opposition and somehow are expected to be competitive with a makeshift team, it's simply not going to work.  Any momentum we had has vanished. The team is constantly being changed and the players cannot adapt to these changes.

The manager will have roughly the same budget next season and possibly a harder task to build a promotion chasing team since I can envisage half this current team being let go. It was a much easier task this season in terms of recruiting 3-4 much needed players, building upon last seasons squad. Yet it appears the players and management are slowly undoing the hard work they put in during the first 3 quarters of the season.

By all means stick with him for another season and see what he achieves. If it's not a playoff place next time round, I'd like to think we'd consider looking for a replacement.


You make some very valid points. Many posters on here hate anything negative said about Dennis, but the reality is, that he has chopped and changed and his style has killed the momentum. His time is up, and the sooner the self labelled "happy clappers" on here smell the roses and stop accepting a substandard leader the better. I watched Jonah at the end as he threw his bib to the floor in disgust at the final whistle. DG madness overlooking yet again a player he has championed who clearly doesn't fit his plans any more. It's a different excuse from him every week, but for one, I'm tired of the cr*p he comes out with. The next man through DG's revolving door should be him. And before anyone asks the obvious who would do a better job? The easy answer is anyone, as DG has lost the plot, the dressing room and with the exception of 10 or so happy clappers on this forum, has also lost many fans if what could be heard at the end of the game was anything to go by. Sad end to a promising season.

I don,t think people will take you seriously ET

Welcome back .

Remember 2 days ago you told us you had finished on here due to naughty happy clappers having the cheek to disagree with you ?

Recall a poster doing the same thing a few months ago .  8).    Was  it  your twin ?

Enjoy happy clapping. I like being a moaner, thanks. Ps I don't have a twin, I have a split personality. Not sure which one of me is posting though. Maybe it's both of me?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Offside trap on March 19, 2016, 11:40:49 PM
With seven games left last year...
1 FYLDE pld 35 pts 70
2 barrow pld 34 pts 70
3 GUISELEY pld 34 pts 62
4 tamworth pld 35 pts 60
5 hednesford pld 36 pts 59
6 BOSTON pld 35 pts 57
7 oxford pld 35 pts 55
8 CHORLEY pld 33 pts 55
Not really a clear display of the final top 5 is it? My point is any of the teams from Nuneaton to Chorley this year could still make it so why couldn't it be us?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Mickey Nuttells Hair on March 20, 2016, 06:57:12 AM
so why couldn't it be us?

Check the form table, that's why.
http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/tab15.html
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: howmanynames2pick on March 20, 2016, 11:26:10 AM
so why couldn't it be us?

Check the form table, that's why.
http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/tab15.html
That last 6 games league doesn't make comfortable viewing :(
The loss of Jordan Richards and Pidge out cannot be underestimated.
Dayle not back to his best yet.
Where was McAvoy yesterday?
Players with bit of pedigree coming in and not really cutting it.....
Troubled times............
I just hope DG still has the fight to turn it round
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Bostonshire on March 20, 2016, 11:34:37 AM
i felt we did okay for the first half hour, looked good like the old Boston but they got the goal  and we just went to plan D from there, had no shape, didnt know what we was doing and lowered ourselfs to there play, Players dont look happy to be here anymore and again the subs in the game raises ???. for what its worth the starting line up looked the right choices but his in game tactics needs some real attention
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: The Third Twin on March 20, 2016, 11:39:34 AM
i felt we did okay for the first half hour, looked good like the old Boston but they got the goal  and we just went to plan D from there, had no shape, didnt know what we was doing and lowered ourselfs to there play, Players dont look happy to be here anymore and again the subs in the game raises ???. for what its worth the starting line up looked the right choices but his in game tactics needs some real attention

You echo my opinion. Seems there's a growing number of fans disgruntled for the same reasons.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: green hats mate on March 20, 2016, 12:45:11 PM
Was the problem yesterday we had what some fans have been demanding ,  a "big midfielder " ?.   
Did the "big midfielder" make as big a contribution as Jordan Richards did when he was here ?

No use being big and strong without  the skills .   
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Sussex Pilgrim on March 20, 2016, 01:20:22 PM
Was the problem yesterday we had what some fans have been demanding ,  a "big midfielder " ?.   
Did the "big midfielder" make as big a contribution as Jordan Richards did when he was here ?

No use being big and strong without  the skills .

Unfortunately that is what you'll see in youth football all over the country and it follows into adult games, big lumps with lower levels of technical ability hoofing and chasing all afternoon because they grew up playing that way.  The ones calling for it were probably one of the said big lumps!
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: York Street Pilgrim on March 20, 2016, 02:21:29 PM
Ferriby scored the winner in the 89th minute. A week earlier Chorley scored against us in the 84th minute. The week before that Fylde scored one of their goals in the 90th minute. Why do we concede so many late gaols? Are our players as fit as they should be?

Bring back the fitness coach!
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: green hats mate on March 20, 2016, 04:27:25 PM
Ferriby scored the winner in the 89th minute. A week earlier Chorley scored against us in the 84th minute. The week before that Fylde scored one of their goals in the 90th minute. Why do we concede so many late gaols? Are our players as fit as they should be?

Bring back the fitness coach!

Add to the above that in 4 of our 5 previous games we conceded a minute before H/Time it makes you think they are   typical British workmen,  clock watchers. 
Clear the lot out and sign up Poles!!!! :)
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: The Third Twin on March 20, 2016, 04:39:18 PM
Was the problem yesterday we had what some fans have been demanding ,  a "big midfielder " ?.   
Did the "big midfielder" make as big a contribution as Jordan Richards did when he was here ?

No use being big and strong without  the skills .

I agree,  a lack of quality and composure on the ball. Physical presence was second best against a better organised team. Big man in the middle didn't work yesterday, but not helped by playing two wingers who failed to get inside to assist when we were often out numbered in the middle of the park. Jordan Richards was a much better player in that role.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: father Ted on March 20, 2016, 07:03:06 PM
Was the problem yesterday we had what some fans have been demanding ,  a "big midfielder " ?.   
Did the "big midfielder" make as big a contribution as Jordan Richards did when he was here ?

No use being big and strong without  the skills .   

Who was this big midfielder ? Garner  ?
 Hardly in the Gerrard class . .
 
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: green hats mate on March 20, 2016, 07:24:52 PM
Was the problem yesterday we had what some fans have been demanding ,  a "big midfielder " ?.   
Did the "big midfielder" make as big a contribution as Jordan Richards did when he was here ?

No use being big and strong without  the skills .   

Who was this big midfielder ? Garner  ?
 Hardly in the Gerrard class . .

Yes.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Winging It on March 20, 2016, 08:22:12 PM
Well, going back to the original question posed on this thread, it seems its still a good support for the manager. Guess those wanting him fast tracked out of the club won't be getting their wishes. Nice try moaning minnies, lol.  But the rest of us are truly UNITED !  ;D   :bunny
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Gus on March 20, 2016, 08:38:52 PM
Melvin.
This is not a stupid question at all. Because of the recent results I have heard it mentioned that he has taken his eye of the job because of his private life which he seems to delight in splashing on twitter.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: The Third Twin on March 20, 2016, 09:08:01 PM
Well, going back to the original question posed on this thread, it seems its still a good support for the manager. Guess those wanting him fast tracked out of the club won't be getting their wishes. Nice try moaning minnies, lol.  But the rest of us are truly UNITED !  ;D   :bunny

Those of us with a more negative view of the manager are just as United. We all want to see our club succeed, but just have a different view of how to steer the good ship pilgrim. We're different in our view but just as committed to the cause. Don't count your chickens, as the last thing the Board need is nose diving crowds ahead of the Quadrant build. Mr Newton may seem fit to stop the rot sooner rather than later, thus giving time for a post-Dennis rebuild before the move.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: father Ted on March 20, 2016, 09:30:06 PM
RE twitter ..Boston fans would wish a totally focussed management team for the final 7 matches.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Winging It on March 20, 2016, 09:35:22 PM
Well, going back to the original question posed on this thread, it seems its still a good support for the manager. Guess those wanting him fast tracked out of the club won't be getting their wishes. Nice try moaning minnies, lol.  But the rest of us are truly UNITED !  ;D   :bunny

Those of us with a more negative view of the manager are just as United. We all want to see our club succeed, but just have a different view of how to steer the good ship pilgrim. We're different in our view but just as committed to the cause. Don't count your chickens, as the last thing the Board need is nose diving crowds ahead of the Quadrant build. Mr Newton may seem fit to stop the rot sooner rather than later, thus giving time for a post-Dennis rebuild before the move.

We are aware that this is what you, and your half a dozen anti Greene cronies would like. But take on board the comments made previously, many stating in !   The same anti green sentiments was aired on the facebook fans forum by the seasonal moaners, who giving their track records have proven themselves to be the ones never happy, no matter whom is in charge, or who the 11 players are out of the hallowed turf. Maybe take a good look at how those personal abuse comments that were aired on social media to the manager, many about his personal life, was bang out of order and has sidetracked the manager when he is getting told how to run this team !  Its people that do this that are just as much to blame for the slide as anyone else. Time for some head wobbles !
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: oxo on March 20, 2016, 10:19:03 PM
Melvin.
This is not a stupid question at all. Because of the recent results I have heard it mentioned that he has taken his eye of the job because of his private life which he seems to delight in splashing on twitter.


Gus I know nothing of his private life and do not follow anyone on twitter I wouldn't know how to. When I said it was a stupid question I was referring to how you posed the question I think it simply said Greene In or Out. This to me was simply a  provocative question that was designed to cause the response that we are now seeing and that is clearly causing the unrest you were seeking. Yes I said it was a stupid question because the reaction it has caused is what we can well do without at a crucial stage of the season when we should all be rallying around the club to achieve the best possible outcome this season. When I have a view on BUFC matters I speak to the manager and air them, likewise he tells me on a face to face basis what he thinks of those views and believe me we don't always agree but I do respect that. If you or anyone else on here want to speak to him and air your views then approach him and discuss it with him he will make himself available but don't stir the sh*! on here. UTP.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: The Third Twin on March 20, 2016, 11:05:19 PM
Well, going back to the original question posed on this thread, it seems its still a good support for the manager. Guess those wanting him fast tracked out of the club won't be getting their wishes. Nice try moaning minnies, lol.  But the rest of us are truly UNITED !  ;D   :bunny

Those of us with a more negative view of the manager are just as United. We all want to see our club succeed, but just have a different view of how to steer the good ship pilgrim. We're different in our view but just as committed to the cause. Don't count your chickens, as the last thing the Board need is nose diving crowds ahead of the Quadrant build. Mr Newton may seem fit to stop the rot sooner rather than later, thus giving time for a post-Dennis rebuild before the move.

We are aware that this is what you, and your half a dozen anti Greene cronies would like. But take on board the comments made previously, many stating in !   The same anti green sentiments was aired on the facebook fans forum by the seasonal moaners, who giving their track records have proven themselves to be the ones never happy, no matter whom is in charge, or who the 11 players are out of the hallowed turf. Maybe take a good look at how those personal abuse comments that were aired on social media to the manager, many about his personal life, was bang out of order and has sidetracked the manager when he is getting told how to run this team !  Its people that do this that are just as much to blame for the slide as anyone else. Time for some head wobbles !

Just to be clear, you're saying that us "moaners" are partly to blame? If yes, then I can suggest a good psycho-therapist, as that is a ridiculous statement. I was reminded the other day that a discussion board may contain ideas that do not match my own, but I'm not accepting what's said above if it is what it seems to say. Dennis has many ways of airing his disbelief at each defeat, but don't ever blame a discussion board opinion. That really is clutching at straws. No personal abuse to him from me has ever been posted. Do I think he's the right man, no. Would I abuse him, no.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: howmanynames2pick on March 21, 2016, 12:00:10 AM

Well, going back to the original question posed on this thread, it seems its still a good support for the manager. Guess those wanting him fast tracked out of the club won't be getting their wishes. Nice try moaning minnies, lol.  But the rest of us are truly UNITED !  ;D   :bunny
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Do I think he's the right man, no.
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Why?
Footballing or personal reasons?
I do think some expect Boston to win every game playing Barcalonaesque exquisite football with a saint of a manager and an oligarch as chairman.....
Careful for what you wish for..........
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Winging It on March 21, 2016, 09:28:55 AM
Well, going back to the original question posed on this thread, it seems its still a good support for the manager. Guess those wanting him fast tracked out of the club won't be getting their wishes. Nice try moaning minnies, lol.  But the rest of us are truly UNITED !  ;D   :bunny

Those of us with a more negative view of the manager are just as United. We all want to see our club succeed, but just have a different view of how to steer the good ship pilgrim. We're different in our view but just as committed to the cause. Don't count your chickens, as the last thing the Board need is nose diving crowds ahead of the Quadrant build. Mr Newton may seem fit to stop the rot sooner rather than later, thus giving time for a post-Dennis rebuild before the move.

We are aware that this is what you, and your half a dozen anti Greene cronies would like. But take on board the comments made previously, many stating in !   The same anti green sentiments was aired on the facebook fans forum by the seasonal moaners, who giving their track records have proven themselves to be the ones never happy, no matter whom is in charge, or who the 11 players are out of the hallowed turf. Maybe take a good look at how those personal abuse comments that were aired on social media to the manager, many about his personal life, was bang out of order and has sidetracked the manager when he is getting told how to run this team !  Its people that do this that are just as much to blame for the slide as anyone else. Time for some head wobbles !

Just to be clear, you're saying that us "moaners" are partly to blame? If yes, then I can suggest a good psycho-therapist, as that is a ridiculous statement. I was reminded the other day that a discussion board may contain ideas that do not match my own, but I'm not accepting what's said above if it is what it seems to say. Dennis has many ways of airing his disbelief at each defeat, but don't ever blame a discussion board opinion. That really is clutching at straws. No personal abuse to him from me has ever been posted. Do I think he's the right man, no. Would I abuse him, no.

Personal abuse will sidetrack anyone, ask your own psycho-therapist on this subject thanks without aiming further abuse at myself. You see, once you start, it becomes a habit !
As for the personal abuse direct at the manager on another forum, nobody is saying it was you, as on here, do we know who you are ? I do think that we are all entitled to our opinions on these forums, good or bad, its when you cross that line, that is what i disagree with, when things become personal as it did with the manager, hence sidetracking him from his job. So yes, fans are partly to blame for that issue.  Has that cleared that up ?
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: green hats mate on March 21, 2016, 12:51:21 PM
Well, going back to the original question posed on this thread, it seems its still a good support for the manager. Guess those wanting him fast tracked out of the club won't be getting their wishes. Nice try moaning minnies, lol.  But the rest of us are truly UNITED !  ;D   :bunny

Those of us with a more negative view of the manager are just as United. We all want to see our club succeed, but just have a different view of how to steer the good ship pilgrim. We're different in our view but just as committed to the cause. Don't count your chickens, as the last thing the Board need is nose diving crowds ahead of the Quadrant build. Mr Newton may seem fit to stop the rot sooner rather than later, thus giving time for a post-Dennis rebuild before the move.

Don,t know what business experience you have ET but David Newton is a wise business man .   I suspect he is like most of us and learnt over the years that the 2/3% of the customers (fans) who are habitual moaners will never be pleased .    I think you find very few business men who are prepared to sack a key employee who is deemed acceptable by 97/98% of his customers (fans).

On the other hand you may know of a potential manager with the ability to beat Green,s record of 3 consecutive seasons of challenging for N CON play-offs .
I urge you to follow the advice given by OXO,   go and pass on the name to  DN and I am sure he will give the time to discuss it with you .

Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: green hats mate on March 21, 2016, 01:25:05 PM
Melvin.
This is not a stupid question at all. Because of the recent results I have heard it mentioned that he has taken his eye of the job because of his private life which he seems to delight in splashing on twitter.


Gus I know nothing of his private life and do not follow anyone on twitter I wouldn't know how to. When I said it was a stupid question I was referring to how you posed the question I think it simply said Greene In or Out. This to me was simply a  provocative question that was designed to cause the response that we are now seeing and that is clearly causing the unrest you were seeking. Yes I said it was a stupid question because the reaction it has caused is what we can well do without at a crucial stage of the season when we should all be rallying around the club to achieve the best possible outcome this season. When I have a view on BUFC matters I speak to the manager and air them, likewise he tells me on a face to face basis what he thinks of those views and believe me we don't always agree but I do respect that. If you or anyone else on here want to speak to him and air your views then approach him and discuss it with him he will make himself available but don't stir the sh*! on here. UTP.

Gus i,m like Mel don,t do twitter etc .   I,m sure on reflection you are not surprised by the responses this thread ,
us oldies realise the minority make,s the most noise .    If those prolific complainers who come on here instead went and like Mel suggests had a chat to Greene  they would come away wiser on how to run a part-time pro football team .

 ;)  As for private lives being taken into account in football !!!!!  whats going to happen to the game Gus ?

     Many top teams would be managerless and struggling to field a 5  side team .
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: bostonwoody on March 21, 2016, 03:05:44 PM
We have been play off contenders for the past 3 years, very few clubs can match that level of consistency.

Once again I would advise caution to be taken when wishing for things. I see somebody thought that "Billy from North Ferriby" could potentially be our next manager. Could you really stand watching that dross week in week out:
          plan a) kick it to Denton or
          plan b) kick it harder to Denton

It struck me the only person smiling on Saturday was Nobby, there was absolutely no danger of damage to the playing surface, by my reckoning the ball didn't touch it more than twice.

Keep the faith, everything will be good by the time we move to Wyberton
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Pilgrim86 on March 21, 2016, 03:06:11 PM
I think it's a credit that despite being in horrible form, we are still only 1 point off the play off places (and now just 1 game ahead).

We're now in a position where we are chasing, not being chased, which might help the mindset of the players. As long as we keep within touching distance (3 points) of the top 5...
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on March 21, 2016, 03:28:16 PM
bostonwoody - I reckon we played just as much hoof ball as North Ferriby on Saturday. At least they had a target man when they hit it forward. Let's not kid ourselves that we are some great passing team. I've seen us play some right dross in the last few months - not pretty.

TEP
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Winging It on March 21, 2016, 06:46:57 PM
bostonwoody - I reckon we played just as much hoof ball as North Ferriby on Saturday. At least they had a target man when they hit it forward. Let's not kid ourselves that we are some great passing team. I've seen us play some right dross in the last few months - not pretty.

TEP

" Great passing team ",  in that bracket i would put the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, etc only, lets not kid ourselves that in non league any team are of that level ! Guess this whole debate here stems from each individuals mind, and how we see things, are we a glass half full person, or a glass half empty ?! 
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on March 21, 2016, 07:09:49 PM
leftback - we were really average on Saturday. Passing terrible. Long balls - that's the point I was making. Certainly in no position to have a dig at North Ferriby's style of play.

TEP
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Winging It on March 21, 2016, 07:34:50 PM
leftback - we were really average on Saturday. Passing terrible. Long balls - that's the point I was making. Certainly in no position to have a dig at North Ferriby's style of play.

TEP

Yes, but the majority of the games i have seen this season we have passed it around well and created more chances than we have put away. That is down to a mix of missing sitters and not getting that final ball into the correct areas. Yet we sit just outside the play offs with all to play for still, all be it on the back of a bad run. My point is that it is indeed the glass half full, half empty moment.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Tipps End Pilgrim on March 21, 2016, 08:44:40 PM
I've had to pick and choose some of my games this year, particularly away from home but maybe I've been unlucky - away trips to Chorley, Fylde, Gloucester, Lowestoft, Hednesford and Worcester have all been pretty poor affairs.

Let's hope there is more to shout about this time next week :)

TEP
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Ed Kandi on March 21, 2016, 09:01:46 PM
Does anybody know why Connor Robinson was subbed on Saturday?
Hopefully not an injury as he looks a good signing,
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Gus on March 21, 2016, 09:43:03 PM
I just asked a simple question to provoke a debate. Nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Pilgrim86 on March 22, 2016, 12:19:59 PM
Does anybody know why Connor Robinson was subbed on Saturday?
Hopefully not an injury as he looks a good signing,
He took a great thwack in the horrible challenge that started the melee. Presumably match-fitness as well, doubt he's played much lately.
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: howmanynames2pick on March 22, 2016, 08:25:44 PM
Even Alex Ferguson didn't get it right everytime......despite having full time scouts and vast resources.
Makes you wonder how he would have managed with a part time scout and a bloke out the RAF
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2937716/Manchester-United-transfer-failures-10-worst-signings-Sir-Alex-Ferguson.html
Title: Re: Dennis Greene
Post by: Pilgrim86 on March 23, 2016, 10:49:02 PM
Man Utd have NO full time scouts, as Fergie trusted his coaches to watch players. Only now are they looking to employ them, as City seem to be taking on the better youth players.